Estes is the best in terms of heal. 2nd Rafaela, it has lower heal but it has movement speed buff. For Floryn her ult is useful but for her other heal is a nah because you still need enemy for it to heal Edit: Just to put it here, Floryn can use minions or jungle monsters for heal, but still she depends on those just for her 1st skill to activate. Specially if the teamfight is happening on lord/turtle pits where it is difficult to reach jungle monsters or minions. The enemies might be nearby for the heal but that also means you still need to go a bit close just for her skill to heal which is dangerous since you can be targetted and remember she will be lacking 1 item because of her passive, unlike the other healers who can just stay behind and keep healing
In terms of survivability for pure Supports, Rafaela and Angela is the hardest to kill because of their movement speed buffs and slows that can help them outrun or evade enemies. They can support longer or kite enemies better than the other healers. Mino is a tank so he is definitely hard to kill too. Rafaela is my otg support since she got stun, slow, damage, heal, movement spd buff, reveals bush with her 1st skill, can roam fast, good at ganks, can kite, and she's very easy to use.
@@endaime26_52 Rafaela's core item is Enchanted Talisman and Oracle that will automatically gave 30% CD Reduction and the rest will be Tank Items so Rafaela can tank a lot of damage without actually dying since she can just heal and heal if her CD is max at 45% with Favor Roam Skill. Pro Rafaela players can easily gank and turn the tide of the battle.
@@endaime26_52 if that is your build how come you easily die? Bad Positioning? Map Unawareness? Overextending Plays? Reckless Clashing? Rafaela's difficulty is not even hard... even if you're mythic or mythical glory, it's easy to retreat and run away with Rafaela's skill set with allies and you don't really have to clash really hard since a support's role is to make advantage during the whole game not only the clash or small skirmishes. Rafaela is actually annoying when the player knows how to use her skills to the fullest and her heals is not even the main point that players pick her in the Pro-leagues. It's her ability to reveal bushes, her roaming ability, her ganking abililty and her compatibility with any allied hero. To summarize she's a very versatile Support when the enemy team has really good Support or Tank.
Reminder: Best healer doesn't mean best support (cuz i know some players will try to argue about their own main support when the video is all about the heals).
@@lelouchlamperouge9441 I wrote that comment as soon as the video came out, its just logical then you're not gonna see x or y players talk about that right away then. The point was about players eventually arguing about that because in case you dont know some viewers may really be bothersome when it comes to test such as these kind (you can check the other test video and you will see that some viewers really are bringing the same thing over and over again while Hororo kept saying its just test and doesnt represent the potential of these heroes ingame). I never made that comment as a reaction to such messages and im sorry if you thought it turned out you understood my comment this way, i simply made that comment because i knew it was possible some people may try to question these tests with stupid reasons for doing so, on top of that some people were reacting badly to floryn said to be the best support before she got released already saying other supports such as Estes was healing better than her therefore arguing that Estes was better still just because of his heal alone when we know its not the case.
@@sajjadhossain5277 Yes, overall support capabilities are different from one kind of support in particular they can provide, everyone can agree Estes is top 1 when it comes to heals but it doesnt make him viable ingame still because his kit either lack durability or mobility. On top of that with the recent metas being full of fighters having their own sustain, Estes heals were far from necessary.
Estes is for heavy-sustain, especially with Fleeting Time, in late game, team will be pretty much unkillable most likely if you have a Teammate with sustain itself or a tanky one. Estes is very useful if atleast 1 of your teammates can last longer in teamfight, or else Burst Mages with Durance can kill you or your teammates or you easily.
Actually u dont need fleeting time in high rank i only build demon shoes and full set of armor and magic defense if i play as pos4 i go with enchanted talisman
@@juliandollanrowy2251 It actually depends on how the fight goes. If clashes happens most often, it is good to build Fleeting Time. But, if the match is just a calm one with clashes only occuring on Objectives, then Fleeting Time isnt required. The most important items for Estes are Defensive, which I agree. I actually build Defense Boots plus Talisman most of the time for the CDR, Sustained Mana, and Defense in the early game.
@@juliandollanrowy2251 Same. I don't need Fleeting Time, I build with Talisman+Defense shoes(with favor)+ defense items with cdr. Sometimes I don't need immortality. It's a sure win build.
Well smart players target estes first and kill him which exposes your mm and assassin to full enemy team unless you hide your position in the team fight, but don't worry smart players are rare those days
Remember Floryn first skill has the highest heal for a non-ult skill, Rafaela is second interms non-ult skills, Estes still wins overall but take Utility over raw numbers, Sure Estes can heal you from 0-100 assuming the enemy doesn't have anti heal or anyone who has crazy damage, Second Floryn has reliable cc not to mention a global heal, so overall for a non-carry focus team i say Floryn is superior, Aoe global heal, First skill hits like a truck and heal everyone in range, A reliable aoe stun with a short cooldown and her passive item overall she's super nice to have as a teammate but feels horrible to play against
Actually in one of our rank matches .. our core prioritize floryn from early to mid and i must say without floryns support it was quite easy to dominate the enemy .. and i think that focusing on floryn gives us quite an advantage because there is no support from the backline .. so yeah if you encounter floryn on enemy side try focusing on her 😁
You said reliable stun.. do you mean in a master match or a mythic 1k+ where every hero has a purify, dash, or speed up? if not all. Floryn’s dmg is underwhelming on top of healing being as mediocre as it can be for a healing reliant character. I currently have 23 matches 90%~ floryn currently so I’m not just saying from other’s experience. Floryn only plays well with bruiser type heroes as well so she’s extremely situational. She’s no where close to any other support who heals currently meta wise. The global heal from floryn as showed.. will barely heal enough for an enemy to notice. Her stun and ult cds are also not as short as you think for how unreliable it is to hit. So no.. floryn is no where close go superior to anyone who heals currently.
Well Estes Clearly wins here, even with Life Drain Effect he still heals so much. But for me Rafaela is best, not the highest one to heal but has the Highest Mobility and stacked Slow and Damage with CC that works with combo attacks.
Although estes is good at healing when being chase or locked by enemies he can't survive floryn is also the same i personally pick rafa instead of angela just because when you pick her your teammatea will blame you if they die😆. So rafa is the best for me the slow,decent heal,stun movement speed buff,reveling enemies in the bush or invisible hero like natalia.
Rafaela is just a perfect all in one support for me. She has like everything so no wonder why she is the most picked support right now in tournaments. 1. Healing for everyone ( 2nd Skill ) 2. Vision ( 1st Skill ) 3. Mobility Buff ( 2nd Skill ) 4. Crown Control ( Ultimate ) 5. Support Damage After Dying ( Passive ) 6. Slows Enemies ( 1st Skill ) 7. And Pretty Decent Damage For A Support
Jack of all trades you say master of none, shes the basic support, shes an angel so giving buff as blessing, and debuffing as a punishment suits her image. While angela is an android that is designed for protecting someone to escape or engage. Estes is designed to be a walking fountain that can be a hidden mm, since hes physical attack can reach 1k or 1.5k, if you got to heroes with high physical attack that reaches 650 and up and that enough can give estes plus 800 or 900 physical attack and another both hero can either give him 400 physical attack, so his physical attack can reach 1.3 or 1.4k, and add up his lil magic damage, it would add up to 1.5, it is a good thing to push as a team when estes is with you since he can give burt attack on turrets. Floryn is best for poking but need to be careful for movement speeds since she cant sustaint that much alone if the enemy is high sustain, for mino, its best you get oracle if you're another hero that wants to maximize his heal
@@jirehemanuel Truee… Rafaela is the best for me. Like she has all. No wonder she is the most picked support in tournaments right now. 1. Healing for everyone ( 2nd Skill ) 2. Vision ( 1st Skill ) 3. Mobility Buff ( 2nd Skill ) 4. Crown Control ( Ultimate ) 5. Support Damage After Dying ( Passive ) 6. Slows Enemies ( 1st Skill ) 7. And Pretty Decent Damage For A Support
@@Lust08 Well, You are right. It’s just that Rafaela still has everything. No wonder she is the most picked support right now in tournaments. 1. Healing for everyone ( 2nd Skill ) 2. Vision ( 1st Skill ) 3. Mobility Buff ( 2nd Skill ) 4. Crown Control ( Ultimate ) 5. Support Damage After Dying ( Passive ) 6. Slows Enemies ( 1st Skill ) 7. And Pretty Decent Damage For A Support
In terms of healing, Estes is the absolute best! He can literally keep you and your teammates alive for longer when the enemy does not have any anti-heals! This will be a real definition of persistent teams.
I would agree,though I had a match (I played as Estes) where the enemy bought both Dominance Ice and Necklace of Durance but Estes still managed to get everyone on full health
In my solo q to mythic, i found out that most player really like to engage in war rather than focusing on objective. So I always pick up estes if my team need support/tank. Now I reach mythic 4 with 63% winrate.
while mine is just go jungle and ignores turret, just jungle till 15 then go fight, enemy mostly won already before they reach 15, very bad map awareness
If only we can team up without lagging, also this is why most legend to mythic are always trio or 5 man team, i encountered a ling with 1k points and his team was good at objectives and rotation, the benedetta was tanky but deals a lot of dmg, always targeting minions, the khufra always tower dives surprising us from bushes, and ling takes every jungle possible, the nana always supports them, and i've never seen someone use a rafaela so aggresively that you cant deal dmg to the enemy. Too good that you might say they're hacking but they're just addicts to the game.
@@godsequation7812 I thought about that when I was writing that comment. I was thinking of an answer if a question like yours appear. So, the answer is that they're dum and pushing wouldn't make much results since angela doesn't deal that much damage and you don't have a choice but to help them even though taking the lord is pointless.
Estes is probably the best out of all of the healers that existed. But for floryn she has low heal on 1st and ult is not that high too, but when I tried her, I realized how helpful she was in teamfights, I got 30+ assists in one game
@@hmm7238 You can use fleeting time, it's my first item after boots and the 1st skill you can use minions and creeps too so you can heal ur teammates even if there's no enemies😊
It's not a good combo lol if all of them are going to roam the mid lane will not be protected... no jungler and you will surely lack damage to both do the objectives and kill enemy
Floryn gives a free item to your hyper carry. This by itself is OP In my opinion the best way to play Floryn is just to let your team 4vs4 while Floryn just get away from the team fight and do her own thing like tower hugging and pushing tower, while hopefully pulling 1 enemy away from the team fight. And keep and eye on the team healthbar so to ult at the right time when you see it start dropping
Angela being damage increasing support anywhere anytime Estes make teammate being undying because of the healing Floryn being useful support even she isn't join the war Rafaela being annoying support that increase teammate mobility and decrease enemy mobility Mino..... I'm not sure, maybe wide CC and tankiest support?
The most effective way to prevent this for now is literally not dying. Hard to swallow but its unfortunately the inevitable truth. We just have to not die
One problem I have with floryn is her lack of ability to heal out of combat. Her ult is designed to be an emergency heal or the heal that turns the table. So it is basically saved for something really urgent. You just can't use it because you want to heal yourself. You usually reserve it to help allies in emergency situation. Her first skill needs a target to heal. That is my problem. If I am roaming, I definitely need to sustain myself so that I won't waste time going back to the base just to keep myself healthy. That time recalling and going back is better used to gank someone. Hence, I really need to heal her out of combat. Jungle creep is typically out of the question because the jungler already took them. Her first skill is also kind of late sometimes. They had to travel and hit enemy first then had to swirl around for like 1.5 seconds before going back to you or others to heal. Still, if it is faster, she's definitely broken so it is better to have her that way. She's a very good support and healer. I'm really excited for her. But it turns out she's not my cup of tea. I would 10x pick rafaela over her if I were to choose to play as the healer. Edit: I don't want to imply that she's not good. I am trying to imply that even though I often use supports, she do not have the support playstyle that I prefer. She is still good. The stun, the anti-heal debuff remover, global support, etc. She's just not the character for me.
@@MoonChaser. didn't I just said that I play floryn as roamer and that jungler has taken all the creeps? Roamer limits my ability to heal using minions. When ganking, I have to hit the enemy then after killing, the minions around us are already killed because of the frequent clashing. I have no time to wait for the next wave of minion because I have to roam back again on other lanes. Jungler has also taken most of the creeps and it is hard to come by some jungle creep that just respawned or wasn't killed by our jungler or enemy jungler.
@@peeenguinne3858 that's also my problem with Floryn. Angela and Estes have their s1, Rafa has her 2nd. With Floryn you literally need an enemy or minion to heal yourself. And it sucks when you are half health and have to engage with the enemies.
Although we all know that Estes is the best healer, I really think that the best choice for a support is a Rafaela. Here are the reasons: One, her first can reveal the enemies and slow them which is great for chasing because her second skill can also boost the movement speed of her allies. Two, her second skill prioritizes the allies with lowest hp because sometimes it can be stressful to focus on one ally while others are dying. Three, she has a cc skill which is great for ganking and ambushing enemies. Four, she is considerably tanky and can serve as the teams frontline.
I think that only applied to herself? I may have forgotten cause its been a long time since I played her but yeah her first skill did allow more hp regen with more allies around but I think that was for herself and not others? I might be wrong but thats what i remember
The new emblem solves Floryn's cd problem by using the cd reduction talent & building fleeting time & necklace of durance.The rest is to increase her magic power like holy crystal+Blood wings.This build allows her to reach 40% cd with fleeting time passive & powerful heals because of her high magic power with a burst damage enough for a poke dmg.
List of great healer 1st: estes with fleeting time and tank build 2nd:angela mage build or support build with great assist 3rd:rafaela with tank build she can set her enemies in one distants range 4th:floryn with her she can heal from a miles away and hits it like angela's first skill in a nerby enemy 5th:minotaur although his heal is weak but he can survive and has strongest set and a little bit of damage in rage mode
How to efficiently use Floryn espeically in non 5-man games? Preparation: Tank Emblem (You can tank a lot of damage and you just only need mana regen) and Arrival (You can quickly respond around the map) Passive: Who to give in priority level? Early game: 1. Sidelaner that may easily be punished in the lane (Main problem why most can't maximize her impact and too jungler oriented) 2. Jungler if sidelaners can maintain in the lane well (assume no gank games) Mid-late game: 1. Highest damage numbers - attack dependent 2. Highest damage numbers - skill burst Switching: 1. Swap it if the receiver dies and you think you can replace them temporarily if quick enough to replace. (Reason why Arrival is great if you need immediate replacement) 2. Target priority of switching will be the who struggles most in their objective. Priority: Other sidelaner over jungler if the one originally holding is a sidelaner 3. If the both of the 2 is doing fine, give it to the midlaner. (You can maximize his effectivity on making more pressure in objective) 4. Send it back to the original receiver if you think the space on the map is good enough 5. Swap if you think the other can make more impact in game considering they kept up at their best
Nothing beats Estes in the healing department, one heal from his ultimate help his team mates from losing to victory,he can turn the tides of the war in his favor. I reach the mythic just by using Estes since day one.
I like Rafaela the most because her ult is very useful in team fight and she can be very tanky and can go defensive and I love her second skill like u can literally spam it. Also I find her buffs more useful and her first skill is very annoying.
Though estes have high heals, each support has its own good points... but still all healers are good if there is the healing shoes Floryn (Bulbasaur but human)- Global map healing though the heals aint much if the ally is sorrounded or ganged by the opponent - Good for combos since her ult can also deal damage to enemies, so if your allies sorround the enemies then it will be a good damage dealer since the aoe are superimposed. -Her stun is good for initiating an attack Angela- Best for survivability and good for urgent situations like escaping and surprise attacks (specially her speed increase and shield) -Added with her first skill that makes the enemy take more damage and slow is a good thing for teamfight -Her string skill is good for locking and preventing the enemy from going away Rafaela- She is a very versatile support hero with her long stun, speed increase and slow. -She is good in setting since with the negative effects makes it easier. estes- The best milker in the game with a good life saving ultimate , if used on right situations then the tides of the battle can be turned. Since the ultimate can enhance the first skill thus making him a good healer. -The second skill slow is also good for a precursor in setting
When I use rafa, I always use Thunderbelt, because there's an additional slow on the next basic attack after casting the 1st skill. When u have thunderbelt, just use basic attack immediately after casting, then just chase your enemies hehe......And sometimes I use These: Demon shoes - then the healing roam boots (the green one) (Buy that in the early game then buy thunderbelt next since thunderbelt also has mana regen. Then if you have thunderbelt already, Buy rapid boots for easy roaming) Thunderbelt(for enhanced basic attck + slow) Enchanted Talisman- For low cooldown and Fast trigger of thunderbelt passive Oracle- For additional Healing absorption Dominance Ice- Healing Reduction for enemies Immortality- for longevity The roaming boots will heal an additional 1200 hp at max roam. Semi Tank rafa is good since she can sustain a lot and heal fast.......Of course the Additional slow and enemy reveal on bush.... Hehe just shared some ideas, anyways Sayonara~
Friendly tip: try to use favor for Mathilda, it's really helpful in teamfights. I noticed that some don't use it or uses Dire hit instead. Favor helps her to heal when she provides a shield for teammates near her using 2nd skill And for Floryn, just try to avoid using a lot of tank builds, hybrid is better. The more magic builds you have (+favor) the heal would be higher. Using tank builds on support heroes aren't always helpful, they tend to lose the mana which is what they really need for them to use their skills.
l love this kind of content😍 l used to say that Estes and Rafaela are great healers.... But when Floryn entered l thought she's the best healer bc of her SS but nah (but l'm not a basher or what l Do Really Like Floryn😳) Actually, u can save alliesusing her ss like Angela and u can have an assist too or sometimes u can kill the enemy by using Floryn's SS… For me Old healers & New healers are = equal… 😍🤗
Among of 5 this hero healer, ranking for them: 1. Estes 2. Rafaela 3. Angela 4. Floryn 5. Minotour. Honestly floryn is really weak when minion attack him. Also flory is weak to solo clear minion.
Estes is the best one, but he is very squishy, 2nd for me will be Rafaela, because she can deal enough damage, crowd control, and heal at the same time, 3rd is Floryn because her heal is global, and 4th for me is Angela, because for me she is more like a mage
Estes is best overall, in a sense he can actually control the flow of a teamfight, you almost feel almost unstoppable when you're surrounded teammates as they masscre the enemy team like your own pack of wild wolves. While others have healing that's in short bursts, and become used up completely once combined, Estes can actually keep the whole team from dying (Argus would be proud) with extremely short CD, maxed you don't even notice the CD on his Ult sometimes you heal so fast that the assassin with a clear shot of the mm can't one-shot them, instead get shot themselves instead, literally.
I just encountered a enemy troll in rank, I don't know why assume its a troll, we lost because they have fu**ing supports, Rafaela, floryn, and diggie, faramis, while their core was minotaur and my trio team got depressed getting destroyed by supports Supports are lethal the moment they group up
Her skills are similar yes, bot can heal, both can stun and have cc. At first when I read her skill descriptions I thought she was like Raf cause they had similar cc and heal effects(not talking bout range) tho both of them are very different (played both and they are not same) they are same yet different from each other
There no such a things best healer because every healer has its own advantage and disadvantage parts,I gonna say the new floryn(hope I spell correctly) is kinda annoying cause her ulti heal range is crazy and not to mention that bud of hope when she gave to someone in early game,she can gave that person huge amount of Advantage to be honest, especially core/mage(burst type),depending who she gave it too,she have it all stun/heal,she great supp,for me she is 1st and rafaela is second cause she also a great healer,her second skill gave movement speed and heal,first skill poke enemy and slow them or even hell reveal enemy on bush(everyone know she the best counter of Natalia xD) and ulti stun and other healer supp etc
Thank you for taking the time for one of the most asked question in mlbb but I just have 1 problem, why would you need to balance the other because of floryn's unique item, isn't that her passive?
Estes is the best in terms of healing especially with the healing boots enchantment, oracle. The downside is, when being locked/chased down by enemies, but, if you're a good estes user, you know where to position yourself and which hero team you'll prioritize.
I think the best build for floryn is Favor Demon Shoes Oracle-Will Enhance Heal Of First Skill Guardian Helmet-Will Enhance Heal Of First Skill Fleeting Time-When Used Ult And Killed Someone Lower The Ult Cool down Dominance ice-Extra Mana and Lower Enemy Shield
1st:estes-have the highest heal. 2nd:floryn-unlimited range heal and has 2 heal spells. 3rd:rafaela-speed buff heal. 4th:angela-low heal but can damage enemies. 5th:minotaur-heal can be regen when raged. This is the rankings in my opinion
Estes still the best for me because he can even tank aldous any assassin or fighter while keeping the whole team topped up also his passive and 2nd skill is very underrated for poking and other situation
Well idk if im the only one experienced this but usually if the "fur animal" already evolved, your skill set will be enchanted. But in my case i enchanted the "fur animal" and then i my skill set got enchanted, but after i die after the enchantment, all of my skill set will be back to the before enchantment. Im not sure if it is bug or this gamd intentionally do it like that. What i mean by the "back to before enchantment" is, for example the ult, after it is enchanted, you can remove the anti heal effect, but even after it got enchanted it still didnt remove the anti heal effect. The 2nd skill will have bigger radius, but after i die after the enchantment the radius back to small. Its not a visual bug.
Estes: can heal you greatly with high Regen but needs you to be in proximity range, heal can be reduced with anti heal, can slow and damage enemies. Floryn: gives you an extra item buff w/c can be transferred to any teammates, has two heals(1 in proximity range and 1 global), has a area stun cc, healing skills can damage enemies(both 1st and ult), ult can cancel and ignores anti-heal buff. Yep, for me Floryn it is!
Estes needs a buff of his ULT or even his passive, like maybe when he heals an ally, they can both share eachothers 10% of physical and magic defense or being near an ally with the lowest HP for 5 secs will create a link that would continously heal the his ally. Because if we compare him to Floryn, she is literally a better version of him, and not to mention she can remove the life drain effect for 3 secs.
Well but that his passive, when he link with allies he get bonus att and magic power of the one he heal Thats why if you pair him with magic hero like esme harith karina he will heal so much.
Dude, are you on drugs? Estes is a high tier support. Even building anti-heal won't stop him from healing 1k. And you can't say Floryn is a better version, this is a MOBA, where situation and strategies meet. Estes can be better than her, example, Estes can easily counter high damage heroes like Brody or Harley. Floryn can't do that, but she can be better than him with some situations too, like when you're far away. Estes doesn't need a buff, he's an MPL support.
For some of you who don't know floryn has a distance limits on her heal if you hit enemy with 1 skill but your just a lil bit to far the heal won work not on you or even team mate her Ultimate is so bad that it should be rework the heal has an interval of 1 second and divided by two consecutive heal Wich is terrible considering it only heal your for a short amount, and would force you to heal your entire team mates and using ult just to save your core even and her passive is just basically a nerf to her I would replace that with any item on the shop any day rather than her passive item Wich take 1 of your item slot and gave you 500hp and terrible stats her second skill easily block by creap or spawn the radius is so small and the projectile is so slow it's almost impossible to land a hit that hero is just a massive disappointments
FOR ME 1. Estes - I’m biased of him since his my main hero. 2. Floryn - 70% of the games I played this season was with her. She’s easy to use, I love her skills, she’s very useful in team fights or even afar. 3. Angela - because……… I don’t know, just because……… or maybe I just know how to use her skills properly. 4. Rafaela - She’s supposed to be in higher position because I know her potential once you max the CD reduction. Her skills are very useful in team fights but I’m stupid on playing her.🤷🏻♂️I 5. Mino - I don’t know how to use him.
Floryn can heal across the map using his last skill, there are 3 lanes and Estes and Rafaela can only do within their skills reach, Estes heal is high but you always need to be close to him to be healed, like Floryn for example, he can just look at the map and heal low health allies or during clash, if your are far from the injured its quite helpful to be able to heal allies that are not within your reach, and in a close fight with a 10percent health is a lot of help for all the teammates.
Floryn is my favourite but,after using her with different builds and over 100 matches....i'd say she needs a good team! Yes,that's right,she is usefull,but she is like a handy tool,not too OP but,important little flower.And i build her with Magic boots,Enchanted Talisman,Dominace Ice,Oracle(but if there are high magic damage enemies i also build Athena's shield) and lastly Guardian Helmet to increase her HP since i play a bit rough and she kinda need to be on the front line sometimes...meaning she takes damage too,and trust me...you don't want to go with her standard builds because she is too squishy in late,even in mid.
In terms of healing, estes is the best since hes a healing support so he doesnt have a solid cc like other support or utility. Angela's specialise in guarding hence the insane amount of shield and if you include all the stack for her healing, she can easily go to 3k but she focuses on a single ally. Angela has ranged harass, and a cc. Rafaela is a utility support so she focusses more on detaining enemy so she has a slow and a movement buff in her kit and one solid cc. Floryn is a healer and enchanter with her passive and ult that removes anti heal. Each support requires different play styles but still fun to play.
Estes Revitalize(cuz 25% heal when inside the revitalize ring) with Floryn's enhanced ulti combo would be op xd, enemy cant even use anti heal, always max health, enemy's dmg output is lower than all ur heals
i played with a duo who played a rafa/floryn team combo, its so good. enemies got chained stun when floryn used her second skill and rafa used her ult on them after (i was also using selena). the only 2 times i died was when i was caught alone by the enemy assassin with floryn's ult on cooldown
What's good for floryn is she has two options for healing... A skillshot poke and a global heal. Given how you can build floryn with Ice Queen wand tho makes both heals into CC skills thus allowing her to do multiple CC effects
Pure supports, are Rafaela and Angela, Minotaur, and Mathilda they tend to be on CC and giving buffs to their teammates side than Healing, do not underestimate their heals though cause most have spammable healing skills because of low CDs and longer healing range. On the other hand pure Healers are Estes and Floryn, floryn has less heal than Estes but estes needs to be up closer than anyone when it comes to healing so you really need some great evasion skills. Estes is probably the hero with the least damage to inflict among the supports but he has a quite burst healing capabilities that can revive a hero from 10% to 100%
Floryn, Rafaela, Angela and Estes are one of my main heroes. I can say that Rafaela is the best one for late game. But if it's based on how much they heal, I'd say Estes. specially when you build cd reduction items with matching purify as spell.
We all know Estes wins in heal but on utilities, floryn wins, her stun is Almost the same duration as Rafa's Ult. Floryn's Ult gives 1000%hp heal plus the Anti Heal debuff effect. Angela is more of like a buff to the hero she pick on 3rd skill. both minotaur and rafaela skills are best for engaging teamfights and a bit of sustain
Floryn was good too but he's passive is kind of unusual because when you're stack are full 1000 your 1st and 2nd skill is buffed got long range 1st skill and her second skill got big explosion but if you're die her passive no longer activate to her two skill you know what I mean
Estes for sure can heal the most. But in terms of the best support, you have to give it to angela. With the right player, angela can gank, prevent ganks and deaths. If you play with angela right, you can ignore her heal coz her shield can block everything before the enemies can touch you.
It really depends on the enemy but overall: Estes - 2nd best for me. Estes has the greatest heal power, but he's a pretty rigid hero. The match-up has to be correct, or else, it can be really hard to make use of this pick. Pretty useless without his SS too so you have to prio Fleeting Time. Floryn - best for me. 2nd in terms of heal, but it's global heal and you can use it from anywhere. Plus, it deals damage too. Really flexible pick, can do well in any situation as long as you can use her properly. She's ideal for clutch situations and is overall the best compared to the other supports. Rafaela - was my previous main support hero, the speed buff she gives is nice and her 1st skill slow and SS is really useful (and annoying for the enemy). Solid utility, but heal is not very dependable. She could've been 2nd for me but I don't really like how I have to be near my team during a clash to help, especially with such an undependable heal, so yeah. Angela - good for supporting one teammate with the shield her SS gives. Her other skills are ok, but the stun is really challenging to use and impossible when playing 1v1 (unless you're playing against a potato.) Decent in team fights, but not really good without her SS. Minotaur - I've never used this hero so...
Estes mains: we know whos the real king here Rafaela main: Movement speed and heal leave it or take it Some random new hero: I can remove life drain and heal? The other support heroes: well shit I cant do those but I can help
Well estes focuses on heal.(only second skill and passive deals damage) Angela focuses on healing and aoe damage at the same time and also hard to chase because of movement speed from passive. (Also shared with linked ally). Rafaelq focuses on slow effect and aoe damage. The heal from her second skill is pretty low if you ask me but the movement speed from it is viable. Not to forget her ultimate's stun effect. Floryn on the other hand is amazing! Her poking abilities are amazing. She can deal great damage while keeping her distance from enemies and dont forget the stun effect from her second. She's pretty strong especially when dew evolved. At that point, her ultimate can remove anti heal effect and silences enemies.
Keep in mind Floryn have global heal. So if you are too late and your teammate is getting ganked, you can already heal them from far away. Which would COMPLETELY turn the tables and give your team a comeback
as a support main who masters all support, Floryn is good only in mid to late. In early you really can't feel rhe heal until you get the Favor passive. Even in team fights with my squad, im having a hard time sustaining them and helping just from the 2nd skill stun and 1st slill boumd heal which is not hat much. This is why my squad prefers me to use mathilda or estes in griding or other supports cause their utils are crazy in team fights and overall game play.
Floryn got the advantage coz she don't need to go near allies to heal. But that's all. Unlike Estes that can use 2nd skill to slow down running enemies. Unlike Rafaela and Angela speeding up allies to run from or catch up with enemies. Unlike Mino mini stunning enemies with ulti.
Estes is the best in terms of heal. 2nd Rafaela, it has lower heal but it has movement speed buff. For Floryn her ult is useful but for her other heal is a nah because you still need enemy for it to heal
Edit: Just to put it here, Floryn can use minions or jungle monsters for heal, but still she depends on those just for her 1st skill to activate. Specially if the teamfight is happening on lord/turtle pits where it is difficult to reach jungle monsters or minions. The enemies might be nearby for the heal but that also means you still need to go a bit close just for her skill to heal which is dangerous since you can be targetted and remember she will be lacking 1 item because of her passive, unlike the other healers who can just stay behind and keep healing
It's actually scary if it's a team fight
For team fight it's actually quite crazy
Yeah she's pretty bad like Mathilda but a healer I wont be using her
Now imagine Floryn and Estes. Anti heal removal from Floryn and global heal.
Plus Estes's huge heal from his ult
Floryn heal is op
1:40
*Hororo: buys the green holy crystal multiple times*
Floryn: gReEn iS thE cOlOR oF hOpE
omg hahaha lmao
LMAO
Estes: I heal you with moon magic
Angela: I heal you with my love
Mino: *HEAL MADAPAKA*
Heal or else I will roar at your face
Minotaur healer user
ANGRY HEAL 🤣
Angy heal
This made my day, thanks
Floryn: eat this drug or die
In terms of survivability for pure Supports, Rafaela and Angela is the hardest to kill because of their movement speed buffs and slows that can help them outrun or evade enemies. They can support longer or kite enemies better than the other healers. Mino is a tank so he is definitely hard to kill too. Rafaela is my otg support since she got stun, slow, damage, heal, movement spd buff, reveals bush with her 1st skill, can roam fast, good at ganks, can kite, and she's very easy to use.
She's very squishy and easy to kill in team fights. Her heals are so small also
@@endaime26_52 Rafaela's core item is Enchanted Talisman and Oracle that will automatically gave 30% CD Reduction and the rest will be Tank Items so Rafaela can tank a lot of damage without actually dying since she can just heal and heal if her CD is max at 45% with Favor Roam Skill. Pro Rafaela players can easily gank and turn the tide of the battle.
@@eirxd5658 thats also my build
@@endaime26_52 if that is your build how come you easily die? Bad Positioning? Map Unawareness? Overextending Plays? Reckless Clashing? Rafaela's difficulty is not even hard... even if you're mythic or mythical glory, it's easy to retreat and run away with Rafaela's skill set with allies and you don't really have to clash really hard since a support's role is to make advantage during the whole game not only the clash or small skirmishes. Rafaela is actually annoying when the player knows how to use her skills to the fullest and her heals is not even the main point that players pick her in the Pro-leagues. It's her ability to reveal bushes, her roaming ability, her ganking abililty and her compatibility with any allied hero. To summarize she's a very versatile Support when the enemy team has really good Support or Tank.
@@eirxd5658 I agree with you. My main support is rafaela too because of her versatile skills
Reminder: Best healer doesn't mean best support (cuz i know some players will try to argue about their own main support when the video is all about the heals).
Never saw one in the comments
You r the only one bringing up the topic
R8, and i can tell floryn is the best in this situation
@@sajjadhossain5277 i think angela would be good for single support, Floryn is good at aoe heal and anti heal effect, and Estes for full heal mode
@@lelouchlamperouge9441 I wrote that comment as soon as the video came out, its just logical then you're not gonna see x or y players talk about that right away then.
The point was about players eventually arguing about that because in case you dont know some viewers may really be bothersome when it comes to test such as these kind (you can check the other test video and you will see that some viewers really are bringing the same thing over and over again while Hororo kept saying its just test and doesnt represent the potential of these heroes ingame).
I never made that comment as a reaction to such messages and im sorry if you thought it turned out you understood my comment this way, i simply made that comment because i knew it was possible some people may try to question these tests with stupid reasons for doing so, on top of that some people were reacting badly to floryn said to be the best support before she got released already saying other supports such as Estes was healing better than her therefore arguing that Estes was better still just because of his heal alone when we know its not the case.
@@sajjadhossain5277 Yes, overall support capabilities are different from one kind of support in particular they can provide, everyone can agree Estes is top 1 when it comes to heals but it doesnt make him viable ingame still because his kit either lack durability or mobility. On top of that with the recent metas being full of fighters having their own sustain, Estes heals were far from necessary.
Estes is for heavy-sustain, especially with Fleeting Time, in late game, team will be pretty much unkillable most likely if you have a Teammate with sustain itself or a tanky one. Estes is very useful if atleast 1 of your teammates can last longer in teamfight, or else Burst Mages with Durance can kill you or your teammates or you easily.
Actually u dont need fleeting time in high rank i only build demon shoes and full set of armor and magic defense if i play as pos4 i go with enchanted talisman
@@juliandollanrowy2251 It actually depends on how the fight goes. If clashes happens most often, it is good to build Fleeting Time. But, if the match is just a calm one with clashes only occuring on Objectives, then Fleeting Time isnt required. The most important items for Estes are Defensive, which I agree.
I actually build Defense Boots plus Talisman most of the time for the CDR, Sustained Mana, and Defense in the early game.
@@juliandollanrowy2251 Same. I don't need Fleeting Time, I build with Talisman+Defense shoes(with favor)+ defense items with cdr. Sometimes I don't need immortality.
It's a sure win build.
Well smart players target estes first and kill him which exposes your mm and assassin to full enemy team unless you hide your position in the team fight, but don't worry smart players are rare those days
Never use fleeting time on him, not good. Just use tank items with cd reductions and items with anti burst
Remember Floryn first skill has the highest heal for a non-ult skill, Rafaela is second interms non-ult skills, Estes still wins overall but take Utility over raw numbers, Sure Estes can heal you from 0-100 assuming the enemy doesn't have anti heal or anyone who has crazy damage, Second Floryn has reliable cc not to mention a global heal, so overall for a non-carry focus team i say Floryn is superior, Aoe global heal, First skill hits like a truck and heal everyone in range, A reliable aoe stun with a short cooldown and her passive item overall she's super nice to have as a teammate but feels horrible to play against
Ain einstein
Actually in one of our rank matches .. our core prioritize floryn from early to mid and i must say without floryns support it was quite easy to dominate the enemy .. and i think that focusing on floryn gives us quite an advantage because there is no support from the backline .. so yeah if you encounter floryn on enemy side try focusing on her 😁
@@MinSky_ Ainnn Einstein apelão
She also has anti-anti heal. Like her ult gives immunity to anti heal for at least 3 seconds
You said reliable stun.. do you mean in a master match or a mythic 1k+ where every hero has a purify, dash, or speed up? if not all. Floryn’s dmg is underwhelming on top of healing being as mediocre as it can be for a healing reliant character. I currently have 23 matches 90%~ floryn currently so I’m not just saying from other’s experience. Floryn only plays well with bruiser type heroes as well so she’s extremely situational. She’s no where close to any other support who heals currently meta wise. The global heal from floryn as showed.. will barely heal enough for an enemy to notice. Her stun and ult cds are also not as short as you think for how unreliable it is to hit. So no.. floryn is no where close go superior to anyone who heals currently.
We all know the best healer is bane first release, sharing beer together feels like having a russian party
very true
Now we talking
now he chuggin alone because of quarantine
I remember the time when my allies find me to heal them
Oh yeah, he's a beast in mayhem too. Unlimited heal plus unbeatable ulti
"Who's the best healer?"
Me an intellectual: *The Fountain*
Yes
No no he has a point
aah the negotiator
Hahahaha
Heal go brrr
We all Know Estes Is A Walking Hospital Lol 😂
Lol 😂
BRO
Lol
Dextrose for everyone
Bruh 😂😂
Fountain: exists
Estes ulti + oracle + favor boots: *A NEW CHALLENGER APPROACHES*
Revitalize +25% heal:
First skill
Emblem support secondary Gift: Heal 10% max
Oracle doesn't increase healing effect of other heroes, just self helf(Regen+lifesteal)
@@karbumkle4671 what seriously oh i thought it did i use it in floryn so she can heal her alias more with the ulti and first
"ult alone can heal up to 1831"
Estes: i am the chosen one
Oh he knows he's the best support
I was about to comment the same thing, well... nevermind XD
He’s the best healer*
Couldn't have said it better 😶
*Best Healer*
Best Support is Rafaela
Well Estes Clearly wins here, even with Life Drain Effect he still heals so much. But for me Rafaela is best, not the highest one to heal but has the Highest Mobility and stacked Slow and Damage with CC that works with combo attacks.
Agreed with you about Estes & Raf. I'm a main support player.
agreed. Rafaela is the most dependable, reliable support.
I agree! Rafaela is the most versatile support in terms of buff and debuff for the whole team!
@@kuanishbaydjumamuratov2501 yeaaa
I like Angela more since I don't like Rafaela ult and passive
When Minotaur has the lowest heal
Minotaur: *I want another revamp!!*
Faramis: am I a joke to u? I can give you another life 😡
hes better suited for tanking dmg
@@aceofshadows2346 Angela: *USELESS*
@@E.94772 Angela can’t do much anyways tho
Tank but healer? no way!
Although estes is good at healing when being chase or locked by enemies he can't survive floryn is also the same i personally pick rafa instead of angela just because when you pick her your teammatea will blame you if they die😆. So rafa is the best for me the slow,decent heal,stun movement speed buff,reveling enemies in the bush or invisible hero like natalia.
Minotaur: *"You guys always act like you're better than me"*
Estes and the bo-i mean girls: *you're telling me we aren't?*
Actually
Rafaela is just a perfect all in one support for me. She has like everything so no wonder why she is the most picked support right now in tournaments.
1. Healing for everyone ( 2nd Skill )
2. Vision ( 1st Skill )
3. Mobility Buff ( 2nd Skill )
4. Crown Control ( Ultimate )
5. Support Damage After Dying ( Passive )
6. Slows Enemies ( 1st Skill )
7. And Pretty Decent Damage For A Support
Jack of all trades you say master of none, shes the basic support, shes an angel so giving buff as blessing, and debuffing as a punishment suits her image. While angela is an android that is designed for protecting someone to escape or engage. Estes is designed to be a walking fountain that can be a hidden mm, since hes physical attack can reach 1k or 1.5k, if you got to heroes with high physical attack that reaches 650 and up and that enough can give estes plus 800 or 900 physical attack and another both hero can either give him 400 physical attack, so his physical attack can reach 1.3 or 1.4k, and add up his lil magic damage, it would add up to 1.5, it is a good thing to push as a team when estes is with you since he can give burt attack on turrets. Floryn is best for poking but need to be careful for movement speeds since she cant sustaint that much alone if the enemy is high sustain, for mino, its best you get oracle if you're another hero that wants to maximize his heal
Rafaela and angela is pretty much a beginner friendly support , no flashy skill yet effective in most cases.
@@jirehemanuel Truee… Rafaela is the best for me. Like she has all. No wonder she is the most picked support in tournaments right now.
1. Healing for everyone ( 2nd Skill )
2. Vision ( 1st Skill )
3. Mobility Buff ( 2nd Skill )
4. Crown Control ( Ultimate )
5. Support Damage After Dying ( Passive )
6. Slows Enemies ( 1st Skill )
7. And Pretty Decent Damage For A Support
@@Lust08 Well, You are right. It’s just that Rafaela still has everything. No wonder she is the most picked support right now in tournaments.
1. Healing for everyone ( 2nd Skill )
2. Vision ( 1st Skill )
3. Mobility Buff ( 2nd Skill )
4. Crown Control ( Ultimate )
5. Support Damage After Dying ( Passive )
6. Slows Enemies ( 1st Skill )
7. And Pretty Decent Damage For A Support
Her true sight make her s tier support imo.
I think ther is only 3 hero who has true sight like rafaela.
0:22 Floryn's ahoge hair is so cute😍
_Uranus:People used to call me a walking fountain...Is this the feeling of defeat?_
Uranus, ruby, yuzhong, paquitod, and floryn: unstoppable
@@frostyflame4008 valir atlas or lo yi literally destroy your comp.
In terms of healing, Estes is the absolute best! He can literally keep you and your teammates alive for longer when the enemy does not have any anti-heals! This will be a real definition of persistent teams.
Estes when enemy got anti heal: oh no
*Floryn on his team*
Estes: anyways
I would agree,though I had a match (I played as Estes) where the enemy bought both Dominance Ice and Necklace of Durance but Estes still managed to get everyone on full health
In my solo q to mythic, i found out that most player really like to engage in war rather than focusing on objective. So I always pick up estes if my team need support/tank. Now I reach mythic 4 with 63% winrate.
while mine is just go jungle and ignores turret, just jungle till 15 then go fight, enemy mostly won already before they reach 15, very bad map awareness
@@frostyflame4008 that's still better...I have trolls in my team which clearly trolling....like who use eudora with only 2 kills and 19 death?!
@@mikagekun5099 they never go war, just like 3v5 :/ sometimes just died from taking buff
If only we can team up without lagging, also this is why most legend to mythic are always trio or 5 man team, i encountered a ling with 1k points and his team was good at objectives and rotation, the benedetta was tanky but deals a lot of dmg, always targeting minions, the khufra always tower dives surprising us from bushes, and ling takes every jungle possible, the nana always supports them, and i've never seen someone use a rafaela so aggresively that you cant deal dmg to the enemy. Too good that you might say they're hacking but they're just addicts to the game.
@@Dr_Doofenshmirts i thought only me who get ton of lag when playing with my friend, 4 player gets lag except room creator
Me using angela be like* "Why do you need to heal your allies when all enemies are now dead"
What if your allies are about to take the lord?
@@KazuLoafersWhat if enemies are all dead why bother taking the lord?
@@godsequation7812 I thought about that when I was writing that comment. I was thinking of an answer if a question like yours appear. So, the answer is that they're dum and pushing wouldn't make much results since angela doesn't deal that much damage and you don't have a choice but to help them even though taking the lord is pointless.
Floryn has this bug when she dies with her stacks full her skill reverts back to being shorter
The enhancements on her s1&2 gets reverted when she dies, hope the devs fix this soon
Oh, i thought it's normal 😂
@@aziumic its annoying since she can be countered by anti heal items and her cc is so small
@@aziumic the most annoying thing ive encountered while playing floryn😭😭😭😭
@@erukarein i knowww they should fix it asap
Estes is probably the best out of all of the healers that existed. But for floryn she has low heal on 1st and ult is not that high too, but when I tried her, I realized how helpful she was in teamfights, I got 30+ assists in one game
She needs enemies for her 1st skill to heal, while her ult cd is high in early to mid game, they need to do something
She needs enemies for her 1st skill to heal, while her ult cd is high in early to mid game, they need to do something
@@hmm7238 buy fleeting time
@@hmm7238 You can use fleeting time, it's my first item after boots and the 1st skill you can use minions and creeps too so you can heal ur teammates even if there's no enemies😊
@@샤미에르체이저 1st skill heal effect is less on minions tho
Floryn+estes+rafaela is good combo to make your recall button invisible like nata
Your mana be like: 👁️👄👁️
@@matt7256 mana boots and enchanted talisman: 👁👄👁
It's not a good combo lol if all of them are going to roam the mid lane will not be protected... no jungler and you will surely lack damage to both do the objectives and kill enemy
I still prefer estes+rafaela
@@ancientmarina5371 yeah those two kinda annoying even for single target assasins
Deep inside our feelings, we know that The Healing Litho wonderer was the best healer! 🤧😌
Rip healing lithowanderer, you will be missed
DAMN YOU MANA LITHO!
Damn i miss that little cabbage boi
Look how they massacre my cabbage
new litho buff in a hero with no mana: i dont wanna play with you anymore
Floryn gives a free item to your hyper carry. This by itself is OP
In my opinion the best way to play Floryn is just to let your team 4vs4 while Floryn just get away from the team fight and do her own thing like tower hugging and pushing tower, while hopefully pulling 1 enemy away from the team fight. And keep and eye on the team healthbar so to ult at the right time when you see it start dropping
Angela being damage increasing support anywhere anytime
Estes make teammate being undying because of the healing
Floryn being useful support even she isn't join the war
Rafaela being annoying support that increase teammate mobility and decrease enemy mobility
Mino..... I'm not sure, maybe wide CC and tankiest support?
Floryn's heal is just an after thought. Her actual strength is buffing allies and debuff to enemies.
_”Who is the best healer?”_
Minotaur: *_Dame Dane~_*
Ok
🤣
Estes: ofc it’s me
Floryn: IM GONNA WIN THIS GAME JUST WAIT
MOONTON: NERF GO *BRRRRR*
There is a bug with floryn everytime she dies with evolved/enhanced skills , it will revert back to the unenhanced form
True, it also affects the game because of this bug
The most effective way to prevent this for now is literally not dying. Hard to swallow but its unfortunately the inevitable truth. We just have to not die
It's fixed now UwU
Good thing the bug is fixed now
Yeah true it's annoying
One problem I have with floryn is her lack of ability to heal out of combat. Her ult is designed to be an emergency heal or the heal that turns the table. So it is basically saved for something really urgent. You just can't use it because you want to heal yourself. You usually reserve it to help allies in emergency situation.
Her first skill needs a target to heal. That is my problem. If I am roaming, I definitely need to sustain myself so that I won't waste time going back to the base just to keep myself healthy. That time recalling and going back is better used to gank someone. Hence, I really need to heal her out of combat. Jungle creep is typically out of the question because the jungler already took them. Her first skill is also kind of late sometimes. They had to travel and hit enemy first then had to swirl around for like 1.5 seconds before going back to you or others to heal. Still, if it is faster, she's definitely broken so it is better to have her that way.
She's a very good support and healer. I'm really excited for her. But it turns out she's not my cup of tea. I would 10x pick rafaela over her if I were to choose to play as the healer.
Edit: I don't want to imply that she's not good. I am trying to imply that even though I often use supports, she do not have the support playstyle that I prefer. She is still good. The stun, the anti-heal debuff remover, global support, etc. She's just not the character for me.
Just use her first skill on minions and creeps?
Same, but I dont like how she clears minion. Too slow. Rafaela and Angela is easier to clear minions.
@@MoonChaser. didn't I just said that I play floryn as roamer and that jungler has taken all the creeps? Roamer limits my ability to heal using minions. When ganking, I have to hit the enemy then after killing, the minions around us are already killed because of the frequent clashing. I have no time to wait for the next wave of minion because I have to roam back again on other lanes. Jungler has also taken most of the creeps and it is hard to come by some jungle creep that just respawned or wasn't killed by our jungler or enemy jungler.
buy Sky Helmet so you can heal while roaming.
@@peeenguinne3858 that's also my problem with Floryn. Angela and Estes have their s1, Rafa has her 2nd. With Floryn you literally need an enemy or minion to heal yourself. And it sucks when you are half health and have to engage with the enemies.
Floryn:Green is the color of hope!💚
Me:yes,The HP!!
Although we all know that Estes is the best healer, I really think that the best choice for a support is a Rafaela. Here are the reasons: One, her first can reveal the enemies and slow them which is great for chasing because her second skill can also boost the movement speed of her allies. Two, her second skill prioritizes the allies with lowest hp because sometimes it can be stressful to focus on one ally while others are dying. Three, she has a cc skill which is great for ganking and ambushing enemies. Four, she is considerably tanky and can serve as the teams frontline.
Yaz
Floryn has a bug that when you die, the enhanced skills will go back to normal.
Yes its so annoying. Sometimes the 2nd phase of her second skill doesn't stun or even appear at all. 😔
@@kofisadmirer it's specially annoying if you just gain stacks but die imidiatly in a team fight
Yeah and it's so annoying
This needs attention, quick
I thought that's how it is 🙂 now I know why my range always goes back to normal
Actually Angela can increase her heal if there's a lot of allies/enemies inside the range of her first skill
:o
Huh?
I think that only applied to herself? I may have forgotten cause its been a long time since I played her but yeah her first skill did allow more hp regen with more allies around but I think that was for herself and not others? I might be wrong but thats what i remember
It's the same heal everytime doesn't matter how many allies
Angela is for the weak
The new emblem solves Floryn's cd problem by using the cd reduction talent & building fleeting time & necklace of durance.The rest is to increase her magic power like holy crystal+Blood wings.This build allows her to reach 40% cd with fleeting time passive & powerful heals because of her high magic power with a burst damage enough for a poke dmg.
I'm actually amazed when you upgrade the hero skill 😮😮
List of great healer
1st: estes with fleeting time and tank build
2nd:angela mage build or support build with great assist
3rd:rafaela with tank build she can set her enemies in one distants range
4th:floryn with her she can heal from a miles away and hits it like angela's first skill in a nerby enemy
5th:minotaur although his heal is weak but he can survive and has strongest set and a little bit of damage in rage mode
2nd angela/rafaela
Both have movement skill buff
@@ancientmarina5371 rafaela has movement boost to her allies while angela can boost her self but slows the enemies and shortening its health a little
Fountain:- You all mortals trying to challenge me?!!
How to efficiently use Floryn espeically in non 5-man games?
Preparation: Tank Emblem (You can tank a lot of damage and you just only need mana regen) and Arrival (You can quickly respond around the map)
Passive: Who to give in priority level?
Early game:
1. Sidelaner that may easily be punished in the lane (Main problem why most can't maximize her impact and too jungler oriented)
2. Jungler if sidelaners can maintain in the lane well (assume no gank games)
Mid-late game:
1. Highest damage numbers - attack dependent
2. Highest damage numbers - skill burst
Switching:
1. Swap it if the receiver dies and you think you can replace them temporarily if quick enough to replace. (Reason why Arrival is great if you need immediate replacement)
2. Target priority of switching will be the who struggles most in their objective. Priority: Other sidelaner over jungler if the one originally holding is a sidelaner
3. If the both of the 2 is doing fine, give it to the midlaner. (You can maximize his effectivity on making more pressure in objective)
4. Send it back to the original receiver if you think the space on the map is good enough
5. Swap if you think the other can make more impact in game considering they kept up at their best
Nothing beats Estes in the healing department, one heal from his ultimate help his team mates from losing to victory,he can turn the tides of the war in his favor. I reach the mythic just by using Estes since day one.
Luckey you ..why they always ban estes in epic 🐽 😫
@@jonahpadernal5716 Estes got banned due to his healing abilities on the battlefield.
I like Rafaela the most because her ult is very useful in team fight and she can be very tanky and can go defensive and I love her second skill like u can literally spam it. Also I find her buffs more useful and her first skill is very annoying.
Though estes have high heals, each support has its own good points... but still all healers are good if there is the healing shoes
Floryn (Bulbasaur but human)- Global map healing though the heals aint much if the ally is sorrounded or ganged by the opponent
- Good for combos since her ult can also deal damage to enemies, so if your allies sorround the enemies then it will be a good damage dealer since the aoe are superimposed.
-Her stun is good for initiating an attack
Angela- Best for survivability and good for urgent situations like escaping and surprise attacks (specially her speed increase and shield)
-Added with her first skill that makes the enemy take more damage and slow is a good thing for teamfight
-Her string skill is good for locking and preventing the enemy from going away
Rafaela- She is a very versatile support hero with her long stun, speed increase and slow.
-She is good in setting since with the negative effects makes it easier.
estes- The best milker in the game with a good life saving ultimate , if used on right situations then the tides of the battle can be turned. Since the ultimate can enhance the first skill thus making him a good healer.
-The second skill slow is also good for a precursor in setting
When I use rafa, I always use Thunderbelt, because there's an additional slow on the next basic attack after casting the 1st skill. When u have thunderbelt, just use basic attack immediately after casting, then just chase your enemies hehe......And sometimes I use These:
Demon shoes - then the healing roam boots (the green one)
(Buy that in the early game then buy thunderbelt next since thunderbelt also has mana regen. Then if you have thunderbelt already, Buy rapid boots for easy roaming)
Thunderbelt(for enhanced basic attck + slow)
Enchanted Talisman- For low cooldown and Fast trigger of thunderbelt passive
Oracle- For additional Healing absorption
Dominance Ice- Healing Reduction for enemies
Immortality- for longevity
The roaming boots will heal an additional 1200 hp at max roam. Semi Tank rafa is good since she can sustain a lot and heal fast.......Of course the Additional slow and enemy reveal on bush....
Hehe just shared some ideas, anyways Sayonara~
Friendly tip: try to use favor for Mathilda, it's really helpful in teamfights. I noticed that some don't use it or uses Dire hit instead. Favor helps her to heal when she provides a shield for teammates near her using 2nd skill
And for Floryn, just try to avoid using a lot of tank builds, hybrid is better. The more magic builds you have (+favor) the heal would be higher.
Using tank builds on support heroes aren't always helpful, they tend to lose the mana which is what they really need for them to use their skills.
l love this kind of content😍 l used to say that Estes and Rafaela are great healers.... But when Floryn entered l thought she's the best healer bc of her SS but nah (but l'm not a basher or what l Do Really Like Floryn😳)
Actually, u can save alliesusing her ss like Angela and u can have an assist too or sometimes u can kill the enemy by using Floryn's SS…
For me Old healers & New healers are = equal… 😍🤗
Imagine havin all the best healers, (not including mino) support a uranus all mid, the true unkillable force will exist
Among of 5 this hero healer, ranking for them:
1. Estes
2. Rafaela
3. Angela
4. Floryn
5. Minotour.
Honestly floryn is really weak when minion attack him. Also flory is weak to solo clear minion.
yes, her 1st skill (single target)
Baxia with necklace of durance and dominance ice : Not On My Watch 😉
Floryn : HAHA like i care?
Estes is the best one, but he is very squishy, 2nd for me will be Rafaela, because she can deal enough damage, crowd control, and heal at the same time, 3rd is Floryn because her heal is global, and 4th for me is Angela, because for me she is more like a mage
estes needs only enchaned tailsman and fleeting time
the rest is defense item
How about heal per sec ? Rafaela or angela maybe have low healing but also have low cooldown
rafa better
I prefer Rafaela
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Estes is best overall, in a sense he can actually control the flow of a teamfight, you almost feel almost unstoppable when you're surrounded teammates as they masscre the enemy team like your own pack of wild wolves. While others have healing that's in short bursts, and become used up completely once combined, Estes can actually keep the whole team from dying (Argus would be proud) with extremely short CD, maxed you don't even notice the CD on his Ult sometimes you heal so fast that the assassin with a clear shot of the mm can't one-shot them, instead get shot themselves instead, literally.
haha 4 kupas and 1 estes go brrrr
I just encountered a enemy troll in rank, I don't know why assume its a troll, we lost because they have fu**ing supports, Rafaela, floryn, and diggie, faramis, while their core was minotaur and my trio team got depressed getting destroyed by supports
Supports are lethal the moment they group up
I'll go with Estes
This flower girl seems a little ripoff of Rafaela. Only with a wider range of heal
Her skills are similar yes, bot can heal, both can stun and have cc. At first when I read her skill descriptions I thought she was like Raf cause they had similar cc and heal effects(not talking bout range) tho both of them are very different (played both and they are not same) they are same yet different from each other
Finally I've been waited for this
There no such a things best healer because every healer has its own advantage and disadvantage parts,I gonna say the new floryn(hope I spell correctly) is kinda annoying cause her ulti heal range is crazy and not to mention that bud of hope when she gave to someone in early game,she can gave that person huge amount of Advantage to be honest, especially core/mage(burst type),depending who she gave it too,she have it all stun/heal,she great supp,for me she is 1st and rafaela is second cause she also a great healer,her second skill gave movement speed and heal,first skill poke enemy and slow them or even hell reveal enemy on bush(everyone know she the best counter of Natalia xD) and ulti stun and other healer supp etc
Personally i love rafa the most .
Cz , with roam & oracle she can easily heal 1/4th of full hp. Also the movement speed helps allot. Literally "allot"
estes
Thank you for taking the time for one of the most asked question in mlbb but I just have 1 problem, why would you need to balance the other because of floryn's unique item, isn't that her passive?
hi hororo
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Estes is the best in terms of healing especially with the healing boots enchantment, oracle. The downside is, when being locked/chased down by enemies, but, if you're a good estes user, you know where to position yourself and which hero team you'll prioritize.
I always play estes with Tank gears since he doesnt have any escape skill. so i can 1v2 most of the time
But in a Team fight Floryn will beat them all in terms of heal as she can heal all of them, other than that estes is God of Heal.
I think the best build for floryn is
Favor Demon Shoes
Oracle-Will Enhance Heal Of First Skill
Guardian Helmet-Will Enhance Heal Of First Skill
Fleeting Time-When Used Ult And Killed Someone Lower The Ult Cool down
Dominance ice-Extra Mana and Lower Enemy Shield
Just wait till Valentina arrived officially on both server, now we have a ally with enemy ult lol.
They’d have to rework her, just the concept of copying an enemy’s ult sounds too broken..
@@vermillionshadow6170 she might get a less duration during copy of enemy ult
@@vermillionshadow6170 she can only take 40% of the damage of the enemy so it's pretty fair
1st:estes-have the highest heal.
2nd:floryn-unlimited range heal and has 2 heal spells.
3rd:rafaela-speed buff heal.
4th:angela-low heal but can damage enemies.
5th:minotaur-heal can be regen when raged.
This is the rankings in my opinion
A good Estes player can position himself where no enemy can touch him.
Estes still the best for me because he can even tank aldous any assassin or fighter while keeping the whole team topped up also his passive and 2nd skill is very underrated for poking and other situation
"Hororo, any space for a bull?" - Minotaur with healing support build
Well idk if im the only one experienced this but usually if the "fur animal" already evolved, your skill set will be enchanted. But in my case i enchanted the "fur animal" and then i my skill set got enchanted, but after i die after the enchantment, all of my skill set will be back to the before enchantment. Im not sure if it is bug or this gamd intentionally do it like that. What i mean by the "back to before enchantment" is, for example the ult, after it is enchanted, you can remove the anti heal effect, but even after it got enchanted it still didnt remove the anti heal effect. The 2nd skill will have bigger radius, but after i die after the enchantment the radius back to small. Its not a visual bug.
Estes: can heal you greatly with high Regen but needs you to be in proximity range, heal can be reduced with anti heal, can slow and damage enemies.
Floryn: gives you an extra item buff w/c can be transferred to any teammates, has two heals(1 in proximity range and 1 global), has a area stun cc, healing skills can damage enemies(both 1st and ult), ult can cancel and ignores anti-heal buff.
Yep, for me Floryn it is!
Estes needs a buff of his ULT or even his passive, like maybe when he heals an ally, they can both share eachothers 10% of physical and magic defense or being near an ally with the lowest HP for 5 secs will create a link that would continously heal the his ally. Because if we compare him to Floryn, she is literally a better version of him, and not to mention she can remove the life drain effect for 3 secs.
Well but that his passive, when he link with allies he get bonus att and magic power of the one he heal
Thats why if you pair him with magic hero like esme harith karina he will heal so much.
Dude, are you on drugs? Estes is a high tier support. Even building anti-heal won't stop him from healing 1k. And you can't say Floryn is a better version, this is a MOBA, where situation and strategies meet. Estes can be better than her, example, Estes can easily counter high damage heroes like Brody or Harley. Floryn can't do that, but she can be better than him with some situations too, like when you're far away. Estes doesn't need a buff, he's an MPL support.
For some of you who don't know floryn has a distance limits on her heal if you hit enemy with 1 skill but your just a lil bit to far the heal won work not on you or even team mate her Ultimate is so bad that it should be rework the heal has an interval of 1 second and divided by two consecutive heal Wich is terrible considering it only heal your for a short amount, and would force you to heal your entire team mates and using ult just to save your core even and her passive is just basically a nerf to her I would replace that with any item on the shop any day rather than her passive item Wich take 1 of your item slot and gave you 500hp and terrible stats her second skill easily block by creap or spawn the radius is so small and the projectile is so slow it's almost impossible to land a hit that hero is just a massive disappointments
Remember a few months ago when picking rafaela in rank was a taboo?
geez yes! The tables have turned. Everyone be feeling secured with a pro rafaela pick.
FOR ME
1. Estes - I’m biased of him since his my main hero.
2. Floryn - 70% of the games I played this season was with her. She’s easy to use, I love her skills, she’s very useful in team fights or even afar.
3. Angela - because……… I don’t know, just because……… or maybe I just know how to use her skills properly.
4. Rafaela - She’s supposed to be in higher position because I know her potential once you max the CD reduction. Her skills are very useful in team fights but I’m stupid on playing her.🤷🏻♂️I
5. Mino - I don’t know how to use him.
Floryn can heal across the map using his last skill, there are 3 lanes and Estes and Rafaela can only do within their skills reach, Estes heal is high but you always need to be close to him to be healed, like Floryn for example, he can just look at the map and heal low health allies or during clash, if your are far from the injured its quite helpful to be able to heal allies that are not within your reach, and in a close fight with a 10percent health is a lot of help for all the teammates.
Floryn is my favourite but,after using her with different builds and over 100 matches....i'd say she needs a good team! Yes,that's right,she is usefull,but she is like a handy tool,not too OP but,important little flower.And i build her with Magic boots,Enchanted Talisman,Dominace Ice,Oracle(but if there are high magic damage enemies i also build Athena's shield) and lastly Guardian Helmet to increase her HP since i play a bit rough and she kinda need to be on the front line sometimes...meaning she takes damage too,and trust me...you don't want to go with her standard builds because she is too squishy in late,even in mid.
In terms of healing, estes is the best since hes a healing support so he doesnt have a solid cc like other support or utility. Angela's specialise in guarding hence the insane amount of shield and if you include all the stack for her healing, she can easily go to 3k but she focuses on a single ally. Angela has ranged harass, and a cc. Rafaela is a utility support so she focusses more on detaining enemy so she has a slow and a movement buff in her kit and one solid cc. Floryn is a healer and enchanter with her passive and ult that removes anti heal. Each support requires different play styles but still fun to play.
Estes Revitalize(cuz 25% heal when inside the revitalize ring) with Floryn's enhanced ulti combo would be op xd, enemy cant even use anti heal, always max health, enemy's dmg output is lower than all ur heals
Estes: I can heal you with Elven Magic
Rafaela: I can heal you with Holy Magic
Mino: *cow noises*
i played with a duo who played a rafa/floryn team combo, its so good. enemies got chained stun when floryn used her second skill and rafa used her ult on them after (i was also using selena). the only 2 times i died was when i was caught alone by the enemy assassin with floryn's ult on cooldown
Actually she can heal alot of u build him properly
What's good for floryn is she has two options for healing... A skillshot poke and a global heal. Given how you can build floryn with Ice Queen wand tho makes both heals into CC skills thus allowing her to do multiple CC effects
Pure supports, are Rafaela and Angela, Minotaur, and Mathilda they tend to be on CC and giving buffs to their teammates side than Healing, do not underestimate their heals though cause most have spammable healing skills because of low CDs and longer healing range.
On the other hand pure Healers are Estes and Floryn, floryn has less heal than Estes but estes needs to be up closer than anyone when it comes to healing so you really need some great evasion skills. Estes is probably the hero with the least damage to inflict among the supports but he has a quite burst healing capabilities that can revive a hero from 10% to 100%
Dont forget the healing support shoes :)
Floryn, Rafaela, Angela and Estes are one of my main heroes. I can say that Rafaela is the best one for late game. But if it's based on how much they heal, I'd say Estes. specially when you build cd reduction items with matching purify as spell.
We all know Estes wins in heal but on utilities, floryn wins, her stun is Almost the same duration as Rafa's Ult.
Floryn's Ult gives 1000%hp heal plus the Anti Heal debuff effect.
Angela is more of like a buff to the hero she pick on 3rd skill.
both minotaur and rafaela skills are best for engaging teamfights and a bit of sustain
are you sure? Rafa's ult gives 1.5 sec stun duration while floryn :1.0 sec~
@@eleh3 oh i forgot that floryn is already in the original server,
When floryn is in her unfinished form it used to be 1.5 sec
Floryn have balanced and most effective and convenient skills, CC skills, Attack+Heal, Global Heal.
Floryn was good too but he's passive is kind of unusual because when you're stack are full 1000 your 1st and 2nd skill is buffed got long range 1st skill and her second skill got big explosion but if you're die her passive no longer activate to her two skill you know what I mean
Estes for sure can heal the most. But in terms of the best support, you have to give it to angela. With the right player, angela can gank, prevent ganks and deaths. If you play with angela right, you can ignore her heal coz her shield can block everything before the enemies can touch you.
Yasss truee! Angela is one of the best support hero :)
It really depends on the enemy but overall:
Estes - 2nd best for me. Estes has the greatest heal power, but he's a pretty rigid hero. The match-up has to be correct, or else, it can be really hard to make use of this pick. Pretty useless without his SS too so you have to prio Fleeting Time.
Floryn - best for me. 2nd in terms of heal, but it's global heal and you can use it from anywhere. Plus, it deals damage too. Really flexible pick, can do well in any situation as long as you can use her properly. She's ideal for clutch situations and is overall the best compared to the other supports.
Rafaela - was my previous main support hero, the speed buff she gives is nice and her 1st skill slow and SS is really useful (and annoying for the enemy). Solid utility, but heal is not very dependable. She could've been 2nd for me but I don't really like how I have to be near my team during a clash to help, especially with such an undependable heal, so yeah.
Angela - good for supporting one teammate with the shield her SS gives. Her other skills are ok, but the stun is really challenging to use and impossible when playing 1v1 (unless you're playing against a potato.) Decent in team fights, but not really good without her SS.
Minotaur - I've never used this hero so...
Estes mains: we know whos the real king here
Rafaela main: Movement speed and heal leave it or take it
Some random new hero: I can remove life drain and heal?
The other support heroes: well shit I cant do those but I can help
during teamfight,all of healer heroes are balance,no matter the hp healed its depend on your game
No one:
Literally no one:
Estes: **Laughs in healing**
Well estes focuses on heal.(only second skill and passive deals damage) Angela focuses on healing and aoe damage at the same time and also hard to chase because of movement speed from passive. (Also shared with linked ally). Rafaelq focuses on slow effect and aoe damage. The heal from her second skill is pretty low if you ask me but the movement speed from it is viable. Not to forget her ultimate's stun effect. Floryn on the other hand is amazing! Her poking abilities are amazing. She can deal great damage while keeping her distance from enemies and dont forget the stun effect from her second. She's pretty strong especially when dew evolved. At that point, her ultimate can remove anti heal effect and silences enemies.
Keep in mind Floryn have global heal. So if you are too late and your teammate is getting ganked, you can already heal them from far away. Which would COMPLETELY turn the tables and give your team a comeback
@@itztomato44 my point exactly
Everybody knew it, it's from the Redo of Healer.
Will a gloo and floryn combo work? If not what about a sun and floryn combo?can you maybe make a video about this Hororo?
Next vid Hororo make vid about who is the best shield hero(hero who can generate shield who can or cant share)
as a support main who masters all support, Floryn is good only in mid to late. In early you really can't feel rhe heal until you get the Favor passive. Even in team fights with my squad, im having a hard time sustaining them and helping just from the 2nd skill stun and 1st slill boumd heal which is not hat much. This is why my squad prefers me to use mathilda or estes in griding or other supports cause their utils are crazy in team fights and overall game play.
The hero with the highest heal is Balmond just combine this,👇
Oracle
Bloodlust axe
Assasin emblem( killing spree)
Floryn got the advantage coz she don't need to go near allies to heal. But that's all. Unlike Estes that can use 2nd skill to slow down running enemies. Unlike Rafaela and Angela speeding up allies to run from or catch up with enemies. Unlike Mino mini stunning enemies with ulti.
i just stun enemy everytime they chasing teammate lul, sometimes ulti when most of teammate is low on health or going to open a war