@@TheMoreIKnow43LMAO YOU WISH BLAWG, melees will never get the deserved revert to their 1.2 versions, they are still shit and the update focused on a new mode and p2w skins.
Finally someone is talking about this, melees used to be the thing that made the game enjoyable for me and the fact that not only they removed all the mechanics for melees that semi-stopped guns and even the sprint lunge while guns mostly only got buffs is sad, I had patience for the game til now but I can't play this anymore lmao, it's just not fun. Also thanks for putting my ms paint drawing that I made in two minutes in the video.
Perhaps they could give melees less stamina drain, or even implement it so that you can stagger people who are holding guns when hit with one, like shaking their cursor
Stamina drain wont fix it as that was already done but the stagger mechanic kind of existed before 1.3, essentially, big melees could stop you from shooting when you got hit for a small fraction of time and used to even cancel reloads.
@@antynomity pretty sure blunt weapons can cancel reloads/stagger with a head hit, but you need to reach the gun user and also land that head hit without dying in the process.Still hard though.
It’s also worth mentioning that on low end computers the melees literally won’t work half the time I usually am stuck on 40 frames a second (embarrassing ik) and with debug on, the hit box won’t trigger until the swing is like, halfway done. (I’ve never had an issue like this on other melee based combat games btw it only happens on criminality)
the spawn crates should literally be deleted because even if you buy like t1 some guy will get a grenade and a db from a spawn crate and literally just kill you
i get your point but getting levels in this game takes ages so its pretty much impossible to get anything more then a g17 if you dont have armory pass. thats pretty much the only way to get good stuff.
@@superflyboy8732 I *mostly* play casual, if I really want to level up, then I will go into standard, but with level 48 and 650k in bank, I dont think I will ever need to seriously grind in any way
If criminality doesn't fix melees then every melee main will flock to havoc because of the trailers showing them to be ACTUALLY VIABLE and NOT WORTHLESS
the most simple fix is to just revert the fire sale so guns like aks are a luxury, not something everyone who plays standard has, and just decrease the damage that guns do. they already started doing this with sawn off when it was 13x8, enough to 1 shot to the body, then it became 12x8 which is just short of 1 shotting to the body
i feel like melee would be fine if the hitboxes worked, but another thing i'd like to see would be a temporary stamina buff when you hit an enemy with a melee to help deal with people just running away.
I made an entire video about hitboxes sucking, but criminality's hitboxes are just coded wrong, they dont even suck because of latency, they just error and dont work, like holy shit, why has RVVZ not fixed this.
Here are some of my personal ideas for a melee fix: 1) They need to allow us to be able to sprint while swinging, again. The reason why this is a needed change is because, as he mentioned, people can just run away from you. Currently, if you're using a heavy melee like a metal bat or shovel for example, after you swing, you will get slowed down by a lot and they can just keep sprinting and outrun you with no problem. This is a really big issue and needs to be adressed because it makes heavy melees practically useless. 2) You should get some of your stamina back if you land a hit on someone. To balance this out, melees should use up more stamina. This should reduce spam and reward actually hitting someone. Also, some melees like the balisong and shiv need to have higher stamina usage (currently it's 3 and 1). 3) They should revert the melee hitboxes to the ones used pre v1.3 or completely remake them. 4) Other than blocking, they should add a parry mechanic which will be a high risk-high reward type of move that will possibly use up a lot of stamina but also stun the enemy if timed correctly (although it will request very precise timing). This would make melee fights less spammy and could counter rage doses. Only a few melees would have the parry ability though (probably the high tier ones). Now, they *could* also add back the stun that melees had on gun users, but that would be way too much in my opinion.
melee is ok on casual mainly as ambush or third party weapon, or for a cheap way to help defend yourself if gun runs out of ammo but yea everyone on standard spams medium range weps with good positioning so melee tends to be a joke
Think the buff for melees is that they should have their own separate stamina and that all melees shouldn't get a movement speed penalty. Another buff should be to prevent a gun user from shooting when hit with a melee and the amount of time is dependent on the weapon's swing speed.
I prefer sledge hammer then shovel cause its just makes me feel good the dopamine rush and the silliness to see someone gets flung off a roof just makes me feel good :)
This is one of the rare cases were the developers listen, theyre making a gamemode just for melee weapons plus redoing the animations and hitboxes to make them more consistent, i think melees are getting the treatment they deserve now
one problem with melees is that if a melee ray hits a cash register, the rays turn green which makes the rest of the hits not register if you hit the person after the rays hit the register
The main reason why melees suck is because of raycast vs ping/latency basically from your pov it looks like you hit them but due to 2 things. one sever/ ping advantage, basically every body has a base 50 ping plus however much your latency is, and that can result in the other player being able to hit you without you being able to hit them and 2, attackers advantage with raycast who ever hit first will kill first. Simple fix is just to make Melees hitscan to balance out the brain dead fire power of guns. This raycast vs ping thing applies to all games that use this system btw including cv. The cursors has a great video going over this exact thing \/ \/ th-cam.com/video/PoI5eNJ3vDY/w-d-xo.html
katana is awesome, dont slow you down and doin someone cripple in 2 hits and the 3rd swing is the best part, but that 5 space that is takes is killing me
Criminality melees is one of my favorite melees and quite too simple unlike combat warriors has one with raycast that makes my own melee game, but due the problem is balancing and time to kill. This video shows why guns is such a menace.
another thing: melees use stamina, guns do not. this gets worse when you consider you need to rush your targets to use a melee, unlike guns. oh, and, you get slowed further when swinging. not much but can still be very annoying at times.
Fix melee steps: Step 1: stamina regen WHENEVER you hit the target (gives you back the swing you used+ another one) Step 2: fix hitbo- ALRIGHT ALRIGHT, hitboxes depend on players ping and FPS, they are more like a roblox issue than criminality itself. Step 3: give guns actual recoil. Step 4: more melees :), and maybe special moves for them. Step 5: CRIMINALITY MELEE SKIN CRAT-
hi i was in your server yesterday a airdrop spawned at grinder and i dropped you a m4 since my damage on mobile didn’t work but someone took it so yeah but it was cool seeing you
the better ur fps the less recoil u have If a melee user hits a guns user it should make their recoil or gun flick the other way even more if u have good fps to counter the stupid fps to recoil bs I play on a shitty pc that makes the uzi seem like an automatic bfg
Rage dose should give melees a chance against gun users like buffing their swing speed, stronger damage and cooldown slightly decreased. They should also return the 1.2 melee mechanic where you don't slow down when you use light melees which I know it's an OP thing but it's to balance the guns and melees because melees were underpowered a lot after 1.4 came around.
thanks bro for clearing this up ive had this problem when 2.0 released melees are literally unusable at least in standard because a gang of 3 with tier 2 armor and modded aks just pull up to me in casual it might be fine since most casual players are either really low levels or just braindead. I think the "limited time gun firesale" thats been around for a year now has also made melees inferior even in cost. remember when the db was 550 dollars or the glock 17 was 900? i know for a fact that rvvz is about to add gun bashes to make melees even more useless than they already are
the hit at 2:31 is a miss since tiny amount of space that does not hit, if you are in debug mode then you could see how that wouldn't hit, also the hitboxes are fine it is mostly ping problems when you dont hit someone.
i mean they are still pretty good and also im pretty sure guns are more powerful than a melee also the reason why the melee goes through people is because your too close to them and the raycast doesn't detect the hitbox on the person your trying to hit
your point at 3:47 is a great point, the fire sale update should be reverted and melee prices should be the same. the lunge on melee weapons should be more and you should be able to use soda while sprinting. they should also up the bounty you get for killing someone by a little
I mean i have good way to balance the guns and melees just make it so it can block bullets use stamina and against different guns it will either block all the damage like a Beretta or reduce the damage like a. Deagleand also buffing the stamina is good too
1:12 as if you can't just make them miss all the shots by jumping, then again there's a 50/50 chance where you'll either die when you're 5 fucking miles away from them or actually make them miss all there shots imo they should make the melees have 1.3 speed where it's weightless but SOME weapons should have it especially metal bat/shovel [not katana ofc cause we all know balanced that is] pretty sure metal bat only ragdolls them up to tier 1 helmet, anything after that just stuns them [tier 2 & tier 3 helmet, assuming it isn't the 3rd swing not sure if that still can ragdoll them] sledgehammer is like if the metal bat and fireaxe had a baby, just get rid of it's decap ability
Yo ghost it was cool playing with you yesterday. Sorry bout punchin you by accident and downing you lol. Anyways what you said i believe holds true, i feel like there is no point in buying melees when i can just buy a glock instead. I hope melees do get a rework because i absolutely love using them.
Could you make a video about the scout? I've seen a lot of people saying that the mare is better than the Scout which doesn't make much sense, like a 4k sniper is better than 6k Sniper, no make sense.
Me being a console player I feel bad for anybody who is using melee weapons because they're not great and poor old console half the time can't ever get kill this is a great video though overall just talking about how bad the melees are at this moment
I only buy Rambo, it is just fun (op)*Nr*, I love melee, it is in my opinion the best part of the game. they added brawl, but it really is just different there, still fun game mode tho (also taiga is a hellspawn)
sledgehammer is really bad its only good for ambushing and killing people with heavy armor if they dont have teammates since they are slower and you can actually hit them also you can stop the fast stamina drain while drinking soda if you just stop sprinting while youre drinking since you get slowed down anyways and they could make it so that you flinch when you get hit by a high tier melee like in 1.2
Meles are still good only if you know how to use them thats why my friends are so mad at me for mainly using shitty guns and meles isntead of wasting my money on M4s and shit like a rambo and a golf club is enough for me
Man i wish they remake the melees instead of guns, literally almost all updates are just guns updates.
I dreaming to have sick skin on melee weapon.
We got what we wanted
@@TheMoreIKnow43 You right and ngl im hyped after so long.
@@TheMoreIKnow43LMAO YOU WISH BLAWG, melees will never get the deserved revert to their 1.2 versions, they are still shit and the update focused on a new mode and p2w skins.
@@antynomity mid melee update
Finally someone is talking about this, melees used to be the thing that made the game enjoyable for me and the fact that not only they removed all the mechanics for melees that semi-stopped guns and even the sprint lunge while guns mostly only got buffs is sad, I had patience for the game til now but I can't play this anymore lmao, it's just not fun. Also thanks for putting my ms paint drawing that I made in two minutes in the video.
i finally get a youtuber that doesn't just go with the crowd and never explains, great video
Perhaps they could give melees less stamina drain, or even implement it so that you can stagger people who are holding guns when hit with one, like shaking their cursor
Stamina drain wont fix it as that was already done but the stagger mechanic kind of existed before 1.3, essentially, big melees could stop you from shooting when you got hit for a small fraction of time and used to even cancel reloads.
@@antynomity pretty sure blunt weapons can cancel reloads/stagger with a head hit, but you need to reach the gun user and also land that head hit without dying in the process.Still hard though.
@@gibbobux1033 doesn't count as it's not a melee exclusive mechanic
ONG JUST REMOVE MELEE SWING STAM,JUST MAKE EVER SWING A COOLDOWN AND LET STAM BE FOR MOVEMENT!!!! GOD I HATE RVVZ
not only that melees used to disable guns firing for 1 second and could lunge and sprint to catch up to mfs that keep running away
It’s also worth mentioning that on low end computers the melees literally won’t work half the time
I usually am stuck on 40 frames a second (embarrassing ik) and with debug on, the hit box won’t trigger until the swing is like, halfway done.
(I’ve never had an issue like this on other melee based combat games btw it only happens on criminality)
a melee only gamemode would be really nice
bro sees into the future
if only brawl was actually good
@@eon_fr it still sucks from the current melee mechanics
Brawl is just 3 party simulator @@Potatomaster10I
the spawn crates should literally be deleted because even if you buy like t1 some guy will get a grenade and a db from a spawn crate and literally just kill you
i made all my fortune off them soooo nah
me too
i get your point but getting levels in this game takes ages so its pretty much impossible to get anything more then a g17 if you dont have armory pass. thats pretty much the only way to get good stuff.
Don't forget about the gun prices was picked by the community itself when rv asked if they should keep the prices or revert it
thats because the crim community is stupid lol
Epic video, this is why I mostly play casual, because people use less guns there so I can enjoy using melees
how do u level up or get money then???
@@superflyboy8732 I *mostly* play casual, if I really want to level up, then I will go into standard, but with level 48 and 650k in bank, I dont think I will ever need to seriously grind in any way
@@superflyboy8732 do you need to level up? and money is easy with safes.
@@Nisen3000 Money's really easy to grind for, especially in casual where majority of the sever is near Cafe.
dude you nailed it, especially the "backpedal and spamfire to win against any melee"
If criminality doesn't fix melees then every melee main will flock to havoc because of the trailers showing them to be ACTUALLY VIABLE and NOT WORTHLESS
the most simple fix is to just revert the fire sale so guns like aks are a luxury, not something everyone who plays standard has, and just decrease the damage that guns do. they already started doing this with sawn off when it was 13x8, enough to 1 shot to the body, then it became 12x8 which is just short of 1 shotting to the body
ive noticed with the crowbar the hitbox for breaking crates, doors and safes doesn't work sometimes either
Ikr.
i feel like melee would be fine if the hitboxes worked, but another thing i'd like to see would be a temporary stamina buff when you hit an enemy with a melee to help deal with people just running away.
I made an entire video about hitboxes sucking, but criminality's hitboxes are just coded wrong, they dont even suck because of latency, they just error and dont work, like holy shit, why has RVVZ not fixed this.
Here are some of my personal ideas for a melee fix:
1) They need to allow us to be able to sprint while swinging, again. The reason why this is a needed change is because, as he mentioned, people can just run away from you. Currently, if you're using a heavy melee like a metal bat or shovel for example, after you swing, you will get slowed down by a lot and they can just keep sprinting and outrun you with no problem. This is a really big issue and needs to be adressed because it makes heavy melees practically useless.
2) You should get some of your stamina back if you land a hit on someone. To balance this out, melees should use up more stamina. This should reduce spam and reward actually hitting someone. Also, some melees like the balisong and shiv need to have higher stamina usage (currently it's 3 and 1).
3) They should revert the melee hitboxes to the ones used pre v1.3 or completely remake them.
4) Other than blocking, they should add a parry mechanic which will be a high risk-high reward type of move that will possibly use up a lot of stamina but also stun the enemy if timed correctly (although it will request very precise timing). This would make melee fights less spammy and could counter rage doses. Only a few melees would have the parry ability though (probably the high tier ones).
Now, they *could* also add back the stun that melees had on gun users, but that would be way too much in my opinion.
Parry like combat warriors parry !
Shiv and Balison suck.
melee is ok on casual mainly as ambush or third party weapon, or for a cheap way to help defend yourself if gun runs out of ammo
but yea everyone on standard spams medium range weps with good positioning so melee tends to be a joke
Think the buff for melees is that they should have their own separate stamina and that all melees shouldn't get a movement speed penalty.
Another buff should be to prevent a gun user from shooting when hit with a melee and the amount of time is dependent on the weapon's swing speed.
Melees USED to stop you from shooting and that's what the stun time stat on melees did iirc fists and other melees also interrupted reloads
@@boiledbone3966crim gameplay fell off ever since they removed melee hit stun
I prefer sledge hammer then shovel cause its just makes me feel good the dopamine rush and the silliness to see someone gets flung off a roof just makes me feel good :)
This is one of the rare cases were the developers listen, theyre making a gamemode just for melee weapons plus redoing the animations and hitboxes to make them more consistent, i think melees are getting the treatment they deserve now
If it doesn't make money for RVVZ it won't be done.
one problem with melees is that if a melee ray hits a cash register, the rays turn green which makes the rest of the hits not register if you hit the person after the rays hit the register
Raycast?
@@DarkThePurple criminality uses ray casting for melees
Yep, registers, safes and doors have melee hitbox so rip people who died like that
The main reason why melees suck is because of raycast vs ping/latency
basically from your pov it looks like you hit them but due to 2 things. one sever/ ping advantage, basically every body has a base 50 ping plus however much your latency is, and that can result in the other player being able to hit you without you being able to hit them and 2, attackers advantage with raycast who ever hit first will kill first.
Simple fix is just to make Melees hitscan to balance out the brain dead fire power of guns. This raycast vs ping thing applies to all games that use this system btw including cv.
The cursors has a great video going over this exact thing
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RV can do one thing and one thing only,to make guns expensive like in good old days.I really like melles and i dont want to see them being bad.
thanks a criminality youtuber who doesn’t talk bullshit
Did you guy's see the nerf to the shovel? Now if you hit somebody in the head they will get up before you can swing again.
katana is awesome, dont slow you down and doin someone cripple in 2 hits and the 3rd swing is the best part, but that 5 space that is takes is killing me
Criminality melees is one of my favorite melees and quite too simple unlike combat warriors has one with raycast that makes my own melee game, but due the problem is balancing and time to kill. This video shows why guns is such a menace.
another thing:
melees use stamina, guns do not. this gets worse when you consider you need to rush your targets to use a melee, unlike guns.
oh, and, you get slowed further when swinging. not much but can still be very annoying at times.
Bro just explained shovel hitbox 2:21
LISTEN HEAR COCA COLA DRINKER, melees are still good at ambushes
Shotguns are better at that though...
@@antynomity well im better
@@coconutcarl28 i love your name bro wtf
@@antynomity and i love your name random person
Fix melee steps:
Step 1: stamina regen WHENEVER you hit the target (gives you back the swing you used+ another one)
Step 2: fix hitbo- ALRIGHT ALRIGHT, hitboxes depend on players ping and FPS, they are more like a roblox issue than criminality itself.
Step 3: give guns actual recoil.
Step 4: more melees :), and maybe special moves for them.
Step 5: CRIMINALITY MELEE SKIN CRAT-
What have you done for step5
@@Rynobii I WANT A SKIN WHICH GIVES ME 0.000000001 LESS STAMINA USAGE AND 0.1 MORE BLEED DAMAGE AND 10 DOLLARS PRICE REDUCTION :3
monthly banger from my boy ghost
hi i was in your server yesterday a airdrop spawned at grinder and i dropped you a m4 since my damage on mobile didn’t work but someone took it so yeah but it was cool seeing you
Well, actually, I've noticed that each sip of cola reduces long run debuff.
the better ur fps the less recoil u have
If a melee user hits a guns user it should make their recoil or gun flick the other way even more if u have good fps to counter the stupid fps to recoil bs
I play on a shitty pc that makes the uzi seem like an automatic bfg
I was pinned in cafe door broken up, watched the sledge go right through 3 or so players all headshots, nothing happened.
Have the old gun prices but keep the current melee prices because 950 to 250 is a 700 dollar drop
Ghost, can you discuss your opinion on the new melee update cuz the the melee update trailer says that melees hitboxes have become more "better"
good vid, hate melees especially since im literally a solo only player most of the time
surprised the military machete wasnt mentioned at the end, its basically rambo but it can block
saw you in my game a while back but great video bro keep it up
they seriously need to make an update that just revolves around meeles
6:21 it's a good video but I absolutely love this scene.
Honorable mention to the golf club 😤
It is now cannon that the sawn off is a melee.
also finally a youtuber i can relate to.
that rambo kill was hella smooth ngl
keep making these amazing videos!
i miss 1.2 melees i used to be a melee main but after 1.3 they just destroyed them so i basically just gave up on maining them
Rage dose should give melees a chance against gun users like buffing their swing speed, stronger damage and cooldown slightly decreased. They should also return the 1.2 melee mechanic where you don't slow down when you use light melees which I know it's an OP thing but it's to balance the guns and melees because melees were underpowered a lot after 1.4 came around.
Cucked many times by melee hitboxes because it's shitty and beaten many times by guns due to how overpowered the guns were.
If they made the chainsaw rely on sectors-07s absurd gas prices instead of stamina and allow you to jump regularly with it it might be good idk
Honestly, melee weapons seem to always work only in brawl mode instead of the main game. Which is stupid.
thanks bro for clearing this up ive had this problem when 2.0 released melees are literally unusable at least in standard because a gang of 3 with tier 2 armor and modded aks just pull up to me in casual it might be fine since most casual players are either really low levels or just braindead. I think the "limited time gun firesale" thats been around for a year now has also made melees inferior even in cost. remember when the db was 550 dollars or the glock 17 was 900? i know for a fact that rvvz is about to add gun bashes to make melees even more useless than they already are
Oh the days of farming in good old sewers... Now it's a ghost town.
Aye man u aint gota do me like that at 5:19
the hit at 2:31 is a miss since tiny amount of space that does not hit, if you are in debug mode then you could see how that wouldn't hit, also the hitboxes are fine it is mostly ping problems when you dont hit someone.
i mean they are still pretty good and also im pretty sure guns are more powerful than a melee also the reason why the melee goes through people is because your too close to them and the raycast doesn't detect the hitbox on the person your trying to hit
your point at 3:47 is a great point, the fire sale update should be reverted and melee prices should be the same. the lunge on melee weapons should be more and you should be able to use soda while sprinting. they should also up the bounty you get for killing someone by a little
melee only gamemode tbh
I mean i have good way to balance the guns and melees just make it so it can block bullets use stamina and against different guns it will either block all the damage like a Beretta or reduce the damage like a. Deagleand also buffing the stamina is good too
maybe the fact that you can jump half a persons height over a swing? How is it possible for these players to jump over a golf club swing to the torso?
can you make a vid where you discuss things that would make the game super enjoyable?
1:12 as if you can't just make them miss all the shots by jumping, then again there's a 50/50 chance where you'll either die when you're 5 fucking miles away from them or actually make them miss all there shots
imo they should make the melees have 1.3 speed where it's weightless but SOME weapons should have it especially metal bat/shovel
[not katana ofc cause we all know balanced that is]
pretty sure metal bat only ragdolls them up to tier 1 helmet, anything after that just stuns them [tier 2 & tier 3 helmet, assuming it isn't the 3rd swing not sure if that still can ragdoll them]
sledgehammer is like if the metal bat and fireaxe had a baby, just get rid of it's decap ability
Metal bat can stun up to t2 helmet and 3rd swing stuns t3 but I'm not sure about the 3rd swing stunning t3.
Yo ghost it was cool playing with you yesterday. Sorry bout punchin you by accident and downing you lol. Anyways what you said i believe holds true, i feel like there is no point in buying melees when i can just buy a glock instead. I hope melees do get a rework because i absolutely love using them.
Imagine if melees could block/deflect bullets
the best melee is obviously the golfclub like seriously its a 3 shot with high attack speed and long range
you can easy evade a melee user just going up into a ladder, going to a high place etc
Could you make a video about the scout? I've seen a lot of people saying that the mare is better than the Scout which doesn't make much sense, like a 4k sniper is better than 6k Sniper, no make sense.
i like melees but they useless i alot times sawed katana or metal bat getting through head i like melees but its useless now
and i agree they can just run away its annoying when they running away i ran out of stamina and they taking shotgun
and i forgot to say they can just jump or sit to dodge like metal bat or katana
this is relateable af, if i got a nickle per misses, ill ahve atleast 35 nickles rn 💀☠
guns use stamina. more intense the gun, more uncontrollable it gets. change my mind
Rambo is just a hell spawn for gun users
Me being a console player I feel bad for anybody who is using melee weapons because they're not great and poor old console half the time can't ever get kill this is a great video though overall just talking about how bad the melees are at this moment
ay thas me in the beginning 0:01
bro i killed a t3 with rambo and molotov (he had full health btw) rambo deserves all the respect
I only buy Rambo, it is just fun (op)*Nr*, I love melee, it is in my opinion the best part of the game. they added brawl, but it really is just different there, still fun game mode tho (also taiga is a hellspawn)
sledgehammer is really bad its only good for ambushing and killing people with heavy armor if they dont have teammates since they are slower and you can actually hit them also you can stop the fast stamina drain while drinking soda if you just stop sprinting while youre drinking since you get slowed down anyways and they could make it so that you flinch when you get hit by a high tier melee like in 1.2
i wish melee madness still be alive...
great vid
Bro said the sawn off is a melee 💀
i freaking agree ak is way to op it needs it damage less it can oneshot less than 3 bullets for sake
The only time melees are useful if you ambush them that the only time it useful other then that there good for ambushes.
Why didnt you talk about when half of the time blocking doesnt work
What do you use to put the thing the centre of your screen?
Crosshair X
Great vid
shit i bumped into in game and you accidently became my opp in game lol
What is the crosshair youre using called?
Finally they are getting reworked.
Didn’t this guy say he was gonna stop playing this game in his 2.02 review?
i mean thats why the rage dose exists
Just increase the price of guns so people buy guns less
I have gotten a 7k t2 kit with sledge hammer to the head (instant knock down + broken kneck) so id say sledge hammer is pretty decent against kits
whats the little dot u have in the middle?
this man sounds like the biggest basement dweller
yeah guns used to be so hard to use
I sometimes use guns only pistols and DB but I always use melee but I am so trash with them
Ready 2 Die gamplay when????
Meles are still good only if you know how to use them thats why my friends are so mad at me for mainly using shitty guns and meles isntead of wasting my money on M4s and shit like a rambo and a golf club is enough for me