I own both and love them , when my wife and I go hiking with our German shepherd the vestibule is where he sleeps and we dont have to worry about his nails tearing the floor of the tent. GREAT PRODUCT Especially for how we use it.
I was thinking the same thing a great spot to give the dog some shade during the day store some stuff little mosquito netting and a bed and my dog diesel sleep there at night
This vestibule is the reason I'm considering Mongar itself - I need some shelter for my dog - don't feel like keeping him outside, and don't feel like taking him inside ours as well - I'm afraid that he'll damage the bottom with his nails. And this vestibule feels like a perfect solution for me - together with us, but without the risk of damaging the base.
I always thought the vestibule was just for your gear, or maybe cooking. Wasn't supposed to be a porch. The one I had on my 2 person Sierra Design was very similar.
Same with the one on my Marmot Hammer. With the vestibule left in the tote at home it’s a just-over-3lb mountaineering tent. The only time I’d bring it solo is if I’m using my -25F bag because it touches the walls at both ends. I could leave the door unzipped and put my feet in the door to keep my head off the wall.
Every tent vestibule that I’ve ever used is not an area where you sit up in a chair or do things like that. It’s mainly a storage area for gear and a way for you to get in and out of the tent in the rain without getting the inside of the tent wet. Sometimes I think Luke expects way too much out of these companies.
This is twice ive watched him bash an add on vestibule with unreasonable expectations.... its dimensions arent too dissimilar to the tent specs.... does that mean that the tent is also not "people space" if you have to "cram" in there?
Completely agreed. Came to the comments section to see what everyone else was saying. This would be ideal for a cooking space if the weather has gone foul. Plus a good place to store gear to free up internal tent space. I have an Opalus 4 tent that I still haven't tried out, but I purchased specifically for additional room on a rainy day.
I have both and I like them. A little weird to set up at first, but easy enough to figure out. We use the vestibule on the back of our tent as extra storage for our cooler and muddy clothes. It's nice for one or two nights, when you don't want to bring a big tent.
I hate tents you can't stand up in. I'm 6' 1" and 65 years old. Crawling on what's left of my knees is out of the question. Back in the day, this looks like a pretty neat setup. I've slept in worse.
I have the Mongar and the add-on vestibule . I only use the add-on vestibule if it is going to be raining a lot. It is good for storage to keep gear dry and keep excess rain outside the main tent. However, you need to orient the tent so that the wind is facing the opposite side of the tent away from the add-on vestibule. Otherwise, the wind could blow rain into the tent under the rolled up rainfly.
I have it and I just use it for a gear locker on zero days or stormy nights. Works great when a visitor arrives and you have a place to move gear out of the rain.
I have had this exact combination for 3 years now. Still love the Mongar. The extension is quite useful for gear if you are two persons on a bike trip for example, or for the dog - or both. It's easily accessible from inside the Mongar through the inner door, and from the outside when placing or picking up gear. And if I don't need the extension it'll stay home. Would consider this over an additional tarp for most of my trips. But yes, the advertisment photo is bullshit. 🙂
I'd be concerned about rain water seeping in between the vestibule and the rain-fly. If it does, it's likely to drip down into the body of the tent. At $80 I think NatureHike could just make a one-piece fly/vestibule that replaces the original fly. That way it would not only prevent any potential leaking, but they could also raise the vestibule roof, to make it more roomy.
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You know that is Suzies tent. I bought the Mongar 2 after you two reviewed it, about 2 years ago. I also bought the Vestibule at the same time. My reason for it was motorcycle gear storage and I could cook in the rain and not in the tent. It was worth it to me.
I have bought mongar with the vestibule before 1,5 year. In this area I put my backpack for and my German shepherd dog. It's waterproof but with the vents closed. So if you want to have extra storage space for your backpack or your dog it's pretty nice...
You have to admire NatureHike's ability to think outside the box on that. I think it can be useful as excess storage to provide more liveable space in the main tent or to allow a space to cook in foul weather while staying in the main tent.
Couldn't you just use a tarp for the same purpose and actually have usable living space? The only advantage for this I can kind of see is the door, because it might be slightly less difficult do get your gear out of this than from under a tarp that is low to the ground. A tarp could be used in different ways where this has only one purpose that only makes sense on longer trips where a tarp would be more usefull as well, so...
Like others said. It's the dog shelter, or if you're bicycle camping, you can keep your bikes with the front wheels taken off or a place for a backpack or to cook under.
@@SAMMIEJONESJUNIOR Why are you telling me this? I realized that since I replyed to a comment that sayd exactly that. However I then aske why xou would not just but a tarp over the tent thet you can pitch up OR down and have either a living space or gear storage depending on how you pitch the tarp. Was my comment that confusing that you did not get that? You can have a tarp be very closed of basically exactly like this vestibule.
I watched a video and I looked at the basically it’s an addition to your tent, which would be awesome for a pet bed or storage for your gear nifty. Not something I would buy, though. And here’s why … All it would take is a couple of hiking poles, stakes and a rain poncho or tarp and a few feet of cordage and you could.. have a more versatile system that would allow you to set up a vestibule, or plough point shelter with your existing tent to get the additional space using items you already have.
I bought the Naturehike Mongar 2 (in purple) after seeing your reviews of how well it did. I needed a budget backpacking tent and it's been wonderful! I saw the vestibule online but at the price for how little it does, I decided it's not something I need. The tent though was a great buy! Thanks!
It’s a vestibule, meant just for storage. You wouldn’t expect to be able to sit on a chair and relax in an integral vestibule, would you? It just gives you the option of leaving it at home to save weight in an arid climate or if you’re going solo and have room for your gear in the tent.
I was seriously considering the vestibule. But thankd to you, I realized, having this attached to the main tent during a storn with high winds will most probably allow rainwater inside.
Every backpacking tent with a vestibule I've ever seen is about that size. If you're looking for a vestibule that you can lounge in you might want to look for a car camping tent.
Good review, and appreciate you showing the setup. Not sure why you’d think a vestibule for a 2p tent would be a livable palace, but it seems to be perfectly fine as an appropriately scaled vestibule. Regardless, thanks for showing it in the real world.
I agree,it’s meant for storage,it’s not a “conservatory”reminds me of when he blew up an expensive Nemo Tensor mat with his mouth instead of using the supplied inflation sack🤷🏼♂️😂.
Why trash talk it? It's only meant for storage, maybe an occasional cooking session in the rain. What they should have done was provide a new fly cover to encompasse both to make it seamless.
Looking at the angle of the vestibule, it would appear that the fly will run water onto the vestibule, then back down inside the tent/vestibule. I'm curious to see that test.
I have the Mongar and think it's good. Saw the 'extension' a while ago and decided against it. I'd rather string up a tarp to give more room, at least you get some headroom..... Also expensive compared to the tent, Naturehike produce other tents with a vestibule which makes more sense.
Naturehike vestibule is an MSR knock off from a number of years ago if I remember correctly. The Mongar was a knock off of the Hubba Hubba. The grey matched the MSR fly color at the time
Yes, looks identical to the MSR Gear Shed for the Elixir and Hubba range. Gear shed was quite expensive though. The Gear shed reaches the ground but the Mongar vestibule looks quite high off the ground. They almost look interchangeable between the two tents though.
I think the website photo is a fair representation. I have the Mongar 2P and still consider getting this vestibule. It's seems like a great kit if you're hiking as a two-person group.
I can think of times when the weather has been so foul that I would not move until it settled down, I would have been very grateful for the space to make tea and cook in .
A buddy of mine is using this set-up. Sharing his experiences. 1. Great for use with folding bicycle (they keeps 2 Brompton inside). Helps keeps it out from rain and heavy morning dew on metal and keeping their foldies safe from theft. Also great from keeping side wind blowning rain out. 2. Great extra space for storage, cooking using batane stove in windy / rainiy days while sitting in the main tent and putting food bag out of the sleeping area. 3. Whats bad- true as said. Too low, they had to crawl to get in and out. Not great for tropical weather. Alternatively, they will have a tarp in front if u want to keep it opened, airy and have a better view in front of your tent.
I have the Abisko Lite 2 and it has a similar porch area but it’s permanent, mainly because it’s for serious weather and need to be stable but I can appreciate what Naturehike have done here. You can’t sit in a chair in the Abisko’s porch either but if the weather is going to be wet I always take a small tarp for that purpose anyway. What NH did with the advertising wasn’t misleading imo, I like it and if I owned the tent I’d buy it.
Not sure i like the way the outer of the tent folds up to make way for the vestibule, I think water could get in there. As an idea, it's not bad, especially if you were bike camping and a place to store the bike, or perhaps sitting in the tent and using the vestibule to cook in, in bad weather. I think the height is the major issue and if they could increase that, then perhaps. Thanks for the review.
OH! Stoked you're testing this, very keen to see how this effects the waterproofness of the tent.. have always though it would make it LESS waterproof...
we know the Mongar is modeled after the Hubba Hubba - I did some research and found the MSX "Gear Shed" - an impressive 220 buckeroos (to match the $550 tent!) - this explains the pricing - they used the same rough ratio (today the Mongar retails for $169 and the add-on is now $70 which is about the same 5:2 ratio MSX used...)
The vestibule is awesome, have used it for ages, its a great storage area to keep gear dry and for the dog to sleep, I use this tent and vestible for high alpine tahr hunting in New Zealand
I think it's large enough for a person to sit under comfortably on a ground sheet or inflatable mat & converse with the people inside, cook & eat a meal etc. Perhaps not a really large guy though. It has a use in that a group of say 3, can use the tent & vestibule as a wet weather communal & cooking area with 2 in the tent & one in the vestibule. Also, vestibules generally provide a wet weather entry and exit that reduces dampness in the sleeping area. So, all in all, I think it has some uses. I personally wouldn't buy it though, because its too much to carry for minimal benefit. More a compact bike camping thing perhaps.
Brings back memories of the vestibule attachment for the REI Kingdom tent line. Totally useless, and same, hard to get into. A tarp does a better and cheaper job. Thanks for making the video Sir.
Basically I think of this whole vestibule add-on as another sales gimmick. But, if somehow I ended up with one of these I’d simply make use of it as a place to store firewood. I would I were to be also equipped with a battery and voltage regulator for an camping electric bear fence, I would also keep these there as well.
They have been used with a square jack patch, to host a small wood burner for winter use. In europe we are not all sitting on chairs when camping lol. So a place to sit on the ground whilst coooking and a hot tent. Its not mine but just proporting to what I have seen
Why do you feel deceived? Naturehike doesn't show someone sitting on a chair in the vestibule. The photo shows the vestibule is no higher than the tent. Do you sit on a chair in the tent?
I have the mongar 2 3P tent for extra space while backpacking and I really love it. I was curious to see how this performs in rain but probably wouldn't get it, especially at $80 and I only paid $65 for my tent on sale. I just setup a tarp over my tent entryway so I can sit in my chair to chill , cook and keep dry in rainstorms.
The tent, I bought for my daughter a few years ago and we truly tested it out with a fishing trip to cherokee nc this year, it rained every day but yet my daughter and her things were bone dry, if this product does this good in the testing, we will buy it too!!
I kinda like it. It always rains when I go camping. Would be good to keep rain from getting in the tent when entering and exiting. Just wish they would have it as tall as the tent.
I like the vestibule, I am small and I don t use a chair but a foam mat, so it will be ok for me. probably too many things to carry but it a cool idea.
It looks interesting I'm just wondering what the wind would do to it if you wanted to keep your gear dry from rain. It seems more like storage than sitting under it. But still a cool concept.
Actually, makes sense. Any higher and the roofline would slope back to the tent and water would ingress. Its obviously for gear and should function well for such.
Thank you SO much for this review. I had purchased the Mongar 2P based on your and Susie’s review. It’s worked so well both car and backpacking camping. I had the vestibule in my cart but had some similar concerns about the utility in this current version.
The Naturehike Mongar vestibule attaches to my Naturehike Bear UL2 tent and with the addition of a 37 inch pole I can also use it as a stand alone shelter for cooking in wet or windy conditions. It is small but I can comfortably sit under it in my Alite Mayfly chair .
I had an msr elixir 3 and they had the exact same thing but called it a gear shed. Set up pretty much the same way. Storage was great but the cost of it was silly.
The roof of the vestibule is inclined toward the tent, and in case of rain I reckon the water will pass under the fly and end up in the chamber of the tent.
So I've seen one of these before for an MSR tent and I really like the idea of having a place to live but, while I have looked out for them, it's not something I have seen work. It would be nice for bike camping and if you were going somewhere you knew was going to be rainy so you can be outside but sheltered
I think the purple is kinda cool. Usually I go for bland colors that blend in but the other day I was listening to a channel and the guy was saying he likes bright tents just in case something happens and the tent would be easier to locate. The purple would def stand out
I was also thinking along these lines! good festival material :) what would be neat is if they sold different color fly (flies?) - you use all the same other parts and just swap out the fly before you leave the house depending on your mood :)
@@udance4ever that’s actually an awesome idea. Even something like Cotopaxi does where they combine a number of bright colors together on a lot of their products . That would be fun.
@@natlovell122 let's keep nudging Naturehike - they must know how popular their purple one is! I literally just ordered the 15D-Blue just from a functional standpoint (5 oz lighter on sale for $119 - no brainer!) & my heart so wanted the purple one! 💜 I'll be first in line to buy a festival fly when they offer it separately! heck I'd also buy a Forrest green one for instances I want to be a bit stealthier in the woods if the price is right for each additional fly!! like buying shoes 👠 lol
I think Naturehike included the picture of the guy inside the vestibule as a representative guide as to how big/small it is, but it does show a person inside and how much relative room is left. YMMV. Obviously it's a vestibule meant for gear storage and not living space. The part of the design that bugs me is having to roll up the door on the fly, water trap deluxe, bad idea.
lol - sounds good in concept but the more I flip through photos of products "in use" on Amazon pages, the more I'm convinced they just hire someone who is good at photoshop and not necessarily good at envisioning (or understanding) what the product is *really* used for - many are quite laughable 😆
Wow Luke your realy going off on one with Nature hike tents , i have the both the Targa two and the cloud peak and i love them and they serve me well even in the worst of weather and i would love to have the canyon as a cot tent , if they made a vestibule like that for the cloud peak i would have one like a shot Perfect for my folding e bike and folding bike trailer , think your getting a bit picky lol . Ps here in the uk we prefer a bit of fabric wall on the inner compared to all mesh .
Luke, you expected to be able to sit on a chair inside the vestibule? Is there any two person tent on the market with a vestibule tall enough to do that? I am not a fan of Naturehike but I am wondering what you were thinking. Vestibules are usually for storage and possibly cooking in bad weather.
Why not just make a rain fly with a vestibule. So if you need it great if you don't take the one that comes with it. Tent manufacturers need to make tents more modular.
I like your tarp and tent separations which makes much more sense weight-wise, space-wise and cost effectiveness. Negative on this addon for me. Great review, Luke!
Not really a fan of NatureHike but I don't know what the idea that the vestibule has to be a living space. We both have and love our LiteFighter 1 which has two vestibules but you can't do jumping-jacks in either. Vestibules are storage... maybe a dog. I would fault NH that it's description could be better worded as it can be taken that the vestibule fits 2P instead of a vestibule that attaches to a 2P tent. If you're vertically challenged enough, like you and I, one can park their keister on the deck, presumably moderately protected from the elements and make coffee as pictured... 'tis a bonus. But doing so in our beloved LiteFighter I believe would be even more challenging than NH's vestibule. S&H
Well, if you put your bike in it, it will be out of sight and less likely to be stolen. It would be nice to have it for storing your gear. And you could probably cook in the vestibule. It would expand your space. I don't have the base tent. But the weight for hiking for 2 people is too much for us.
It's a neat idea and looks useful for whatever anyone would feel it is useful for. It is silly that the company chose to only display it as a sitting space since that is the one thing this would not be good for. For what it is, my only beef is with the price. I'd rather just buy a second tent since that wouldn't be much bigger or much more expensive and can also be used to store gear while additionally being capable of being a back-up or loaner tent.
Thanks for the review. Good work. 👍 Key concern - does the vestibule cover the only tent door? Or, is there an entry on the opposite side of the tent? I can see this tent combo for canoe camping, or car camping. Not for backpacking, motorcycle, or bike camping. The Dyson X-Mid series has less weight & cost, and as much useable storage space. Nearly any other tent with a rainfly deployed on a ridge line could be more useful and much more versatile. But, Nature Hike gets a “C” for at least trying. Courtesy of Half Vast Flying
This looks like a close copy of the MSR Hubba Hubba 2 / Elixire 2 tent with the MSR porch, but a lot cheaper. This is for storage only. The tent and porch look ideal for motorcycle camping where there will be a lot of luggage to store.
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I own both and love them , when my wife and I go hiking with our German shepherd the vestibule is where he sleeps and we dont have to worry about his nails tearing the floor of the tent. GREAT PRODUCT Especially for how we use it.
I think it looks kind of neat. Maybe it would make for a good dog shelter as well.
I was thinking the same thing a great spot to give the dog some shade during the day store some stuff little mosquito netting and a bed and my dog diesel sleep there at night
Same. And being a two person tent, this extra storage would be nice.
Perfect for those hyper poodles that puncture your Therma rest and Shred your nylon floor.
This vestibule is the reason I'm considering Mongar itself - I need some shelter for my dog - don't feel like keeping him outside, and don't feel like taking him inside ours as well - I'm afraid that he'll damage the bottom with his nails. And this vestibule feels like a perfect solution for me - together with us, but without the risk of damaging the base.
🤣 im glad my poodle was cool as a cucumber when it was time to relax. Shed just climb into bed and snuggle right up till morning.@@WCO3
I always thought the vestibule was just for your gear, or maybe cooking. Wasn't supposed to be a porch. The one I had on my 2 person Sierra Design was very similar.
Same with the one on my Marmot Hammer. With the vestibule left in the tote at home it’s a just-over-3lb mountaineering tent. The only time I’d bring it solo is if I’m using my -25F bag because it touches the walls at both ends. I could leave the door unzipped and put my feet in the door to keep my head off the wall.
Exactly. I've never had a backpacking tent with a vestibule but I know they're not much bigger than this.
The only video on TH-cam that talk so details about this tent model and it's vestibule. Thanks for the effort
Every tent vestibule that I’ve ever used is not an area where you sit up in a chair or do things like that. It’s mainly a storage area for gear and a way for you to get in and out of the tent in the rain without getting the inside of the tent wet. Sometimes I think Luke expects way too much out of these companies.
This is twice ive watched him bash an add on vestibule with unreasonable expectations.... its dimensions arent too dissimilar to the tent specs.... does that mean that the tent is also not "people space" if you have to "cram" in there?
Completely agreed. Came to the comments section to see what everyone else was saying. This would be ideal for a cooking space if the weather has gone foul. Plus a good place to store gear to free up internal tent space. I have an Opalus 4 tent that I still haven't tried out, but I purchased specifically for additional room on a rainy day.
Right on!
I have both and I like them. A little weird to set up at first, but easy enough to figure out. We use the vestibule on the back of our tent as extra storage for our cooler and muddy clothes. It's nice for one or two nights, when you don't want to bring a big tent.
I hate tents you can't stand up in. I'm 6' 1" and 65 years old. Crawling on what's left of my knees is out of the question. Back in the day, this looks like a pretty neat setup. I've slept in worse.
@@LarryTaint-qn8pdit's not for you gramps! It's perfect for us hikers.
@@DreiK96 Perfect for mouthy young punks.
vestibule set up on the back instead of the front and for storage makes sense
I have the Mongar and the add-on vestibule . I only use the add-on vestibule if it is going to be raining a lot. It is good for storage to keep gear dry and keep excess rain outside the main tent. However, you need to orient the tent so that the wind is facing the opposite side of the tent away from the add-on vestibule. Otherwise, the wind could blow rain into the tent under the rolled up rainfly.
I have it and I just use it for a gear locker on zero days or stormy nights. Works great when a visitor arrives and you have a place to move gear out of the rain.
I have had this exact combination for 3 years now. Still love the Mongar. The extension is quite useful for gear if you are two persons on a bike trip for example, or for the dog - or both. It's easily accessible from inside the Mongar through the inner door, and from the outside when placing or picking up gear. And if I don't need the extension it'll stay home. Would consider this over an additional tarp for most of my trips. But yes, the advertisment photo is bullshit. 🙂
I'd be concerned about rain water seeping in between the vestibule and the rain-fly. If it does, it's likely to drip down into the body of the tent. At $80 I think NatureHike could just make a one-piece fly/vestibule that replaces the original fly. That way it would not only prevent any potential leaking, but they could also raise the vestibule roof, to make it more roomy.
@Fou Yes, exactly!
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Could see this being used for an extra luxury for backpacking. Especially those that want a larger sheltered cooking area.
You know that is Suzies tent. I bought the Mongar 2 after you two reviewed it, about 2 years ago. I also bought the Vestibule at the same time. My reason for it was motorcycle gear storage and I could cook in the rain and not in the tent. It was worth it to me.
I have bought mongar with the vestibule before 1,5 year. In this area I put my backpack for and my German shepherd dog. It's waterproof but with the vents closed. So if you want to have extra storage space for your backpack or your dog it's pretty nice...
This is good for lite snow camping. Dig out the vestibule and you can sit in the tent with your feet in the ditch and cook
I really like the purple. I have other gear, other tents, of other colors, and I keep going back to my purple tent for quick trips. 💜
You have to admire NatureHike's ability to think outside the box on that. I think it can be useful as excess storage to provide more liveable space in the main tent or to allow a space to cook in foul weather while staying in the main tent.
Couldn't you just use a tarp for the same purpose and actually have usable living space? The only advantage for this I can kind of see is the door, because it might be slightly less difficult do get your gear out of this than from under a tarp that is low to the ground. A tarp could be used in different ways where this has only one purpose that only makes sense on longer trips where a tarp would be more usefull as well, so...
This is for extra gear storage and it is a gear loft especially if you have 2 people in the tent and you can change cloths with additional privacy.
It's a shelter for dogs 😂😂
Like others said. It's the dog shelter, or if you're bicycle camping, you can keep your bikes with the front wheels taken off or a place for a backpack or to cook under.
@@SAMMIEJONESJUNIOR Why are you telling me this? I realized that since I replyed to a comment that sayd exactly that. However I then aske why xou would not just but a tarp over the tent thet you can pitch up OR down and have either a living space or gear storage depending on how you pitch the tarp. Was my comment that confusing that you did not get that? You can have a tarp be very closed of basically exactly like this vestibule.
I watched a video and I looked at the basically it’s an addition to your tent, which would be awesome for a pet bed or storage for your gear nifty. Not something I would buy, though.
And here’s why …
All it would take is a couple of hiking poles, stakes and a rain poncho or tarp and a few feet of cordage and you could.. have a more versatile system that would allow you to set up a vestibule, or plough point shelter with your existing tent to get the additional space using items you already have.
I bought the Naturehike Mongar 2 (in purple) after seeing your reviews of how well it did. I needed a budget backpacking tent and it's been wonderful! I saw the vestibule online but at the price for how little it does, I decided it's not something I need. The tent though was a great buy! Thanks!
Cut the purchase price in half and it would be a viable option.
It’s a vestibule, meant just for storage. You wouldn’t expect to be able to sit on a chair and relax in an integral vestibule, would you? It just gives you the option of leaving it at home to save weight in an arid climate or if you’re going solo and have room for your gear in the tent.
And still they have this picture with the guy chilling inside
@@changein3d That guy is sitting on the ground with coffee away from the sun
I can see myself doing that
I was seriously considering the vestibule. But thankd to you, I realized, having this attached to the main tent during a storn with high winds will most probably allow rainwater inside.
This looks like a copy of the MSR “gear shed” for their Hubba (MSR Hubba Hubba NX) series tents
Every backpacking tent with a vestibule I've ever seen is about that size. If you're looking for a vestibule that you can lounge in you might want to look for a car camping tent.
Good review, and appreciate you showing the setup. Not sure why you’d think a vestibule for a 2p tent would be a livable palace, but it seems to be perfectly fine as an appropriately scaled vestibule. Regardless, thanks for showing it in the real world.
I agree,it’s meant for storage,it’s not a “conservatory”reminds me of when he blew up an expensive Nemo Tensor mat with his mouth instead of using the supplied inflation sack🤷🏼♂️😂.
Why trash talk it? It's only meant for storage, maybe an occasional cooking session in the rain. What they should have done was provide a new fly cover to encompasse both to make it seamless.
Looking at the angle of the vestibule, it would appear that the fly will run water onto the vestibule, then back down inside the tent/vestibule. I'm curious to see that test.
I have the Mongar and think it's good. Saw the 'extension' a while ago and decided against it. I'd rather string up a tarp to give more room, at least you get some headroom..... Also expensive compared to the tent, Naturehike produce other tents with a vestibule which makes more sense.
Yeah, try the Opalus 2 or 3 but they're tunnel tents and not stand alone. But they have great vestibules.
I think it will effect the good air flow the Mongar 2p has. That thing can be 10 foot tall. If it effects air flow, no deal
Naturehike vestibule is an MSR knock off from a number of years ago if I remember correctly. The Mongar was a knock off of the Hubba Hubba. The grey matched the MSR fly color at the time
Yes, looks identical to the MSR Gear Shed for the Elixir and Hubba range. Gear shed was quite expensive though. The Gear shed reaches the ground but the Mongar vestibule looks quite high off the ground. They almost look interchangeable between the two tents though.
@@brucemacdonald8001 The one thing about the MSR is that the name is accurate. Gear shed. Not people space just gear.
Looks like good space for my dogs when we go camping with them.
I think the website photo is a fair representation. I have the Mongar 2P and still consider getting this vestibule. It's seems like a great kit if you're hiking as a two-person group.
I can think of times when the weather has been so foul that I would not move until it settled down, I would have been very grateful for the space to make tea and cook in .
A buddy of mine is using this set-up. Sharing his experiences.
1. Great for use with folding bicycle (they keeps 2 Brompton inside). Helps keeps it out from rain and heavy morning dew on metal and keeping their foldies safe from theft. Also great from keeping side wind blowning rain out.
2. Great extra space for storage, cooking using batane stove in windy / rainiy days while sitting in the main tent and putting food bag out of the sleeping area.
3. Whats bad- true as said. Too low, they had to crawl to get in and out. Not great for tropical weather.
Alternatively, they will have a tarp in front if u want to keep it opened, airy and have a better view in front of your tent.
I'm only 5'3" and I would feel claustrophobic in that...but storage space is good keeps sleeping area clear ....or use to help keep firewood dry....
With a little alteration you may be able to make your mongar 2p tent a 4 season hot tent with that add-on
I have the Abisko Lite 2 and it has a similar porch area but it’s permanent, mainly because it’s for serious weather and need to be stable but I can appreciate what Naturehike have done here. You can’t sit in a chair in the Abisko’s porch either but if the weather is going to be wet I always take a small tarp for that purpose anyway.
What NH did with the advertising wasn’t misleading imo, I like it and if I owned the tent I’d buy it.
Not sure i like the way the outer of the tent folds up to make way for the vestibule, I think water could get in there. As an idea, it's not bad, especially if you were bike camping and a place to store the bike, or perhaps sitting in the tent and using the vestibule to cook in, in bad weather. I think the height is the major issue and if they could increase that, then perhaps. Thanks for the review.
OH! Stoked you're testing this, very keen to see how this effects the waterproofness of the tent.. have always though it would make it LESS waterproof...
we know the Mongar is modeled after the Hubba Hubba - I did some research and found the MSX "Gear Shed" - an impressive 220 buckeroos (to match the $550 tent!) - this explains the pricing - they used the same rough ratio (today the Mongar retails for $169 and the add-on is now $70 which is about the same 5:2 ratio MSX used...)
It's not modeled after. Naturehike are the manufacturer for MSR. They just "borrowed" their engineering here. The factory is the same
The vestibule is awesome, have used it for ages, its a great storage area to keep gear dry and for the dog to sleep, I use this tent and vestible for high alpine tahr hunting in New Zealand
I think it's large enough for a person to sit under comfortably on a ground sheet or inflatable mat & converse with the people inside, cook & eat a meal etc. Perhaps not a really large guy though. It has a use in that a group of say 3, can use the tent & vestibule as a wet weather communal & cooking area with 2 in the tent & one in the vestibule. Also, vestibules generally provide a wet weather entry and exit that reduces dampness in the sleeping area.
So, all in all, I think it has some uses. I personally wouldn't buy it though, because its too much to carry for minimal benefit. More a compact bike camping thing perhaps.
Brings back memories of the vestibule attachment for the REI Kingdom tent line. Totally useless, and same, hard to get into. A tarp does a better and cheaper job. Thanks for making the video Sir.
With the vestibule being added, it definitely would be nice for coverage of gear only
Basically I think of this whole vestibule add-on as another sales gimmick.
But, if somehow I ended up with one of these I’d simply make use of it as a place to store firewood. I would I were to be also equipped with a battery and voltage regulator for an camping electric bear fence, I would also keep these there as well.
I bought this for extra storage space and its perfect for that.
I have the tent but decided not to get the add on. My thought was maybe it would be good space for gear or dog.
Might be cool to put your own stove jack in and put a wood stove in there?! Thoughts??
This goes perfect with the Flintstones car.
They have been used with a square jack patch, to host a small wood burner for winter use. In europe we are not all sitting on chairs when camping lol. So a place to sit on the ground whilst coooking and a hot tent. Its not mine but just proporting to what I have seen
Why do you feel deceived? Naturehike doesn't show someone sitting on a chair in the vestibule. The photo shows the vestibule is no higher than the tent. Do you sit on a chair in the tent?
Don't expect an answer.
I have a Mongar 2 and love it
It seems small on the ground but if you were camping in deep snow, you could dig down to make it more usable.
I have the mongar 2 3P tent for extra space while backpacking and I really love it. I was curious to see how this performs in rain but probably wouldn't get it, especially at $80 and I only paid $65 for my tent on sale. I just setup a tarp over my tent entryway so I can sit in my chair to chill , cook and keep dry in rainstorms.
whoa - where did you get a 3P for just $65?! I got my 2P 15D for $119 and thought this was already a good deal!
Looking at it, it looks like the vestibule slopes toward the tent. I think this will direct the water under the fly to the joint where it will run in.
The tent, I bought for my daughter a few years ago and we truly tested it out with a fishing trip to cherokee nc this year, it rained every day but yet my daughter and her things were bone dry, if this product does this good in the testing, we will buy it too!!
It looks great. Maybe it can be fitted on a Star River tent too...
I kinda like it. It always rains when I go camping. Would be good to keep rain from getting in the tent when entering and exiting. Just wish they would have it as tall as the tent.
I like the vestibule, I am small and I don t use a chair but a foam mat, so it will be ok for me. probably too many things to carry but it a cool idea.
Great for backpacks an hiking boots if you do not want to put them in your tent but if it rains water will most probably seep underneath.
As someone who is 6ft. 4in tall, that vestibule is a no go for me. Great review.
It looks interesting I'm just wondering what the wind would do to it if you wanted to keep your gear dry from rain. It seems more like storage than sitting under it. But still a cool concept.
Actually, makes sense. Any higher and the roofline would slope back to the tent and water would ingress. Its obviously for gear and should function well for such.
Thank you SO much for this review. I had purchased the Mongar 2P based on your and Susie’s review. It’s worked so well both car and backpacking camping. I had the vestibule in my cart but had some similar concerns about the utility in this current version.
nice start, now they need to complete the design
The Naturehike Mongar vestibule attaches to my Naturehike Bear UL2 tent and with the addition of a 37 inch pole I can also use it as a stand alone shelter for cooking in wet or windy conditions. It is small but I can comfortably sit under it in my Alite Mayfly chair .
I had an msr elixir 3 and they had the exact same thing but called it a gear shed. Set up pretty much the same way. Storage was great but the cost of it was silly.
The roof of the vestibule is inclined toward the tent, and in case of rain I reckon the water will pass under the fly and end up in the chamber of the tent.
Just an idea. You could theoretically get two of them and possibly put one at both doors. Just a thought.
Great space for my dog.
So I've seen one of these before for an MSR tent and I really like the idea of having a place to live but, while I have looked out for them, it's not something I have seen work. It would be nice for bike camping and if you were going somewhere you knew was going to be rainy so you can be outside but sheltered
I think the purple is kinda cool. Usually I go for bland colors that blend in but the other day I was listening to a channel and the guy was saying he likes bright tents just in case something happens and the tent would be easier to locate. The purple would def stand out
I was also thinking along these lines! good festival material :) what would be neat is if they sold different color fly (flies?) - you use all the same other parts and just swap out the fly before you leave the house depending on your mood :)
@@udance4ever that’s actually an awesome idea. Even something like Cotopaxi does where they combine a number of bright colors together on a lot of their products . That would be fun.
@@natlovell122 let's keep nudging Naturehike - they must know how popular their purple one is! I literally just ordered the 15D-Blue just from a functional standpoint (5 oz lighter on sale for $119 - no brainer!) & my heart so wanted the purple one! 💜 I'll be first in line to buy a festival fly when they offer it separately! heck I'd also buy a Forrest green one for instances I want to be a bit stealthier in the woods if the price is right for each additional fly!! like buying shoes 👠 lol
I think Naturehike included the picture of the guy inside the vestibule as a representative guide as to how big/small it is, but it does show a person inside and how much relative room is left. YMMV. Obviously it's a vestibule meant for gear storage and not living space. The part of the design that bugs me is having to roll up the door on the fly, water trap deluxe, bad idea.
lol - sounds good in concept but the more I flip through photos of products "in use" on Amazon pages, the more I'm convinced they just hire someone who is good at photoshop and not necessarily good at envisioning (or understanding) what the product is *really* used for - many are quite laughable 😆
I like it space are always welcome maybe a stove jack would be nice
IMO a DIY tarp "solution" might work better. Especially if it allows people to sit underneath :)
Wow Luke your realy going off on one with Nature hike tents , i have the both the Targa two and the cloud peak and i love them and they serve me well even in the worst of weather and i would love to have the canyon as a cot tent , if they made a vestibule like that for the cloud peak i would have one like a shot
Perfect for my folding e bike and folding bike trailer , think your getting a bit picky lol .
Ps here in the uk we prefer a bit of fabric wall on the inner compared to all mesh .
With arms like that, Luke, you don’t have to reaffirm your manliness by saying Susie is the one that wanted the purple 😂
I bought this tent on the back of your purple tent review. Such a great tent, easy to put up and cosy for me and my greyhound
Hi. Great if you can do a full review on the naturehike hiby 3 especially on how it would handle in windy or rainy weather
Luke, you expected to be able to sit on a chair inside the vestibule? Is there any two person tent on the market with a vestibule tall enough to do that? I am not a fan of Naturehike but I am wondering what you were thinking. Vestibules are usually for storage and possibly cooking in bad weather.
Why not just make a rain fly with a vestibule. So if you need it great if you don't take the one that comes with it. Tent manufacturers need to make tents more modular.
So much this. Great place to store your stinky boots and other gear.
i like it, it adds usable storage or living space. ill be looking at this as a serious option for my summer/spring camps
I got this. What it only lacks is a mat because you can't put your stuff bare on the ground especially when it's raining.
Its help if raining you can cook on that space.
I like your tarp and tent separations which makes much more sense weight-wise, space-wise and cost effectiveness. Negative on this addon for me. Great review, Luke!
I love the vestibule.
Also works with the Vik 1.
Its perfect for my dog.👍🐺
Not really a fan of NatureHike but I don't know what the idea that the vestibule has to be a living space. We both have and love our LiteFighter 1 which has two vestibules but you can't do jumping-jacks in either. Vestibules are storage... maybe a dog. I would fault NH that it's description could be better worded as it can be taken that the vestibule fits 2P instead of a vestibule that attaches to a 2P tent. If you're vertically challenged enough, like you and I, one can park their keister on the deck, presumably moderately protected from the elements and make coffee as pictured... 'tis a bonus. But doing so in our beloved LiteFighter I believe would be even more challenging than NH's vestibule. S&H
Well, if you put your bike in it, it will be out of sight and less likely to be stolen. It would be nice to have it for storing your gear. And you could probably cook in the vestibule. It would expand your space.
I don't have the base tent. But the weight for hiking for 2 people is too much for us.
In solo motorbike adv i am able to hide all my gear in mongar 2, but for adv with my gf it could be useful storage space for the helmets, jackets, etc
Interesting product. Looking forward to your testing.
And what about naturehike Hiby 3? Could you do a review of that tent? It has a vestibule incorporated.
Thanks for the heads up, too short for my uses, i have the tent but would probably just run a tarp over it instead of buying that.
It's a neat idea and looks useful for whatever anyone would feel it is useful for. It is silly that the company chose to only display it as a sitting space since that is the one thing this would not be good for. For what it is, my only beef is with the price. I'd rather just buy a second tent since that wouldn't be much bigger or much more expensive and can also be used to store gear while additionally being capable of being a back-up or loaner tent.
Thanks for the review. Good work. 👍
Key concern - does the vestibule cover the only tent door? Or, is there an entry on the opposite side of the tent?
I can see this tent combo for canoe camping, or car camping. Not for backpacking, motorcycle, or bike camping. The Dyson X-Mid series has less weight & cost, and as much useable storage space. Nearly any other tent with a rainfly deployed on a ridge line could be more useful and much more versatile.
But, Nature Hike gets a “C” for at least trying.
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Luke would it be good for little kids or maybe a dog
I would just use a tarp, which could be used other tents or on it's own also.
I really would like for companies to start making colorful tents.
This looks like a close copy of the MSR Hubba Hubba 2 / Elixire 2 tent with the MSR porch, but a lot cheaper. This is for storage only. The tent and porch look ideal for motorcycle camping where there will be a lot of luggage to store.
I think for additional storage only its not a bad idea however the price shouldn't be so high for it..
Guess it's like the MSR Gear Shed.
The music at the end sounds like an 80’s theme song music