For sure!! there's afew refz I like but he's number 1 even though he's a gay kiiiient🤣✌️🤐 and we all know Wayne Barnes is at the bottom 🤣🤙 #All_Blacks_Hard💪🖤
I liked the one where he said to Dan Carter...Don't swear now, you're on tele. I think it was the World Cup final between NZ and France at Eden Park. It was a battle of a match and in the closing stages Carter must must have been feeling on his last legs before taking a penalty line kick.
@@madisntit6547 I don’t think it’s fair to say that we would’ve lost anyway, especially when the two tries in question were the the first two that they scored. For all we know if they had been disallowed then the Welsh would’ve felt hard done by and morale could’ve dropped for them and they could’ve lost. We don’t have any idea how the outcome could’ve been different/stayed the same. I think it’s unlikely that England would’ve won but like I say we can’t know for sure cos it didn’t happen
@@madisntit6547 my dad went to the same school as Brian Moore and used to play with him under his captaincy and he said that if England were still under him then half the team wouldn’t have eardrums at the end of that game. One player though who you could tell had a bollocking at half time was Daly. In the first half he barely passed the ball at all and probably cost us a couple of potential tries, then in the second he was doing nothing but passing, not trying to step anyone or anything
Ok, but why he said "this is not soccer" and didn't say "this is not football"...? Because obviously it's "football" in his language, so why he thinks Italians translate "calcio" in "soccer"...?
Nigel is a great ref, but a terrible advocate for free speech...once it was considered wrong to advocate for gay people (or even be gay). Falau's religious beliefs are his, and only affect you if you think there is a heaven to be excluded from: he did NOT advocate for violence, which a lot of gay rights activists have called for against Falau. He should never have lost his job, just in the same vein no one should lose their job for their sexuality...
Folau sued the Australian Rugby Union, and they settled out of court with a sum of 3 million dollars. So Folau was not just morally correct but legally correct too.
Lots of gay people are also Christians, and it is incredibly hurtful for another Christian to say that they're going to hell, especially when it's someone famous who has a following. When someone with a platform says something like this it legitimises homophobia, it gives encouragement to homophobes. The problem with hate speech isn't just that it causes emotional harm, it leads directly to actual prejudice and, in this case, physical harm. Gay people are discriminated when trying to get jobs and houses, when booking holidays, in all sorts of ways. It's still illegal in many countries. They are also frequently assaulted and even murdered for their sexuality. Nobody just randomly, out of the blue decided to be prejudiced against a gay person. They do so because they hear other people talking about it and are part of a culture in which it's seen as wrong. Bottom line is, you don't get to pick your sexuality and it is utterly disgusting to criticise someone for something they didn't choose. And if you don't see it, it's probably because you're a straight, white, cis male and don't have to care. Correct?
@@gordon1545 Your last paragraph gives away your core beliefs: whilst sounding like a tolerant, empathetic and reasonable person in the first few paragraphs, you ACTUALLY believe that anyone who doesn't think/believe/behave like you, has no Rights and is a danger to everyone else (like a rotten apple in a barrel, infecting everything it touches). People get attacked for all sorts of reasons, but generally it's for being different in some way (look at murderous tribal conflicts), so sexuality is just another reason. However, in the West this is fairly rare (although in Britain it has increased in recent years, probably due to an influx of people who really don't like gay people and want to throw them off rooftops) and is seen as the exception, not the cultural norm. Your use of the term 'cis' suggests you adhere to modern beliefs, such as critical race theory and that gender is a social construct, and I'm fairly certain you also believe in the gender wage gap. I'm curious to know if you do... Btw, as another poster has pointed out, Folau actually won his court case, proving that facts trump feelings and that free speech isn't dead quite yet: although people like you would wish it so. Have a think about the world your beliefs would create and see if history has already tried it...
To me your just saying (while trying to discreet) "I'm allowed to be a bully bigot and you simply have to take it." A person can't help it if he is gay and so what does it matter? The bible has made a few incorrect statements that haven't timed well and it is so with homosexuality. Why would someone go to hell for simply loving another?
@@leighfoulkes7297 Critical thinking skills have taken a tumble if you can get that rubbish from my comment ( the law agrees with my position, btw)...have a re-read 😳
Folau plays for Catalan Dragons now. He survived the persecution of the mass media and sued the Australian rugby union which was settled out of court with a sum of 3 million dollars. I think all these rugby channels owe Folau an apology.
Greatest ref!! Legend!! But can we stop talking politics and religion on a sports podcast? What about those people who believe the bible, and believe homosexuality is a choice, and our sins will take us to hell if we don't get saved? I want his views on rugby, not religion. Leave your anti-christian hate until the recording has finished!
You're free to believe all those things, his beliefs are not what got him fired. Based on what you've said here I'd like to think you would much rather have had Folau's views on rugby, not religion but somehow I think you're ok with him mixing religion into his official platform through which he represented the Wallabies and his sponsors. He'd previously been warned, challenged the administration to do something and his bluff got called. Good on him, he chose his religion over his Wallabies contract, no anti-Christian hate here.
@@D4N1CU5 I mean there's two ways to do it. Either we're happy for people to have their own opinions and will allow them to voice it, as it should be, or we shouldn't allow any political or religious talk. I think we should be adults and let people say what they want. What's not fair is people being allowed to say pro-homosexual, pro-trans messaging and be praised, yet people who have a different view, Folau, Vunipola etc get castigated for their views. I'll fight for Nigel to be able to have his views and speak them. It should just be fair that's all.
@@rhodri6416 This might show up as a duplicate. There are plenty of places Folau could have expressed his views and not got fired. His church, his home, a private chat group or inside his own head. His work instagram is not one of those places. I don't think you actually want a world of consequence free opinions. Anti-semitism? White supremacy? Fraud? Perjury? I mean, this very thread started with you suggesting they shouldn't talk about politics or religion, what happened to adults being able to say what they want? The idea that every message should receive equal treatment or receive some kind of fairness is nonsense. We don't treat moon landing denier's opinions about space travel the same as a NASA engineer's or Buzz Aldrin's. Nor should we treat a positive, supportive message regarding a group of people in the same way as a negative, condemning message about those same people. Especially when that negative message is unsupported by facts.
@@D4N1CU5 It doesn't work like that I'm afraid. That's not free speech. That's like saying Nigel can only speak up about homosexual things with his homosexual friends. You can say what you like as long as we don't hear it.
Respect from New Zealand!! Awesome Ref!!
Hard ah cuz. The best ref ever!!!
For sure!! there's afew refz I like but he's number 1 even though he's a gay kiiiient🤣✌️🤐 and we all know Wayne Barnes is at the bottom 🤣🤙 #All_Blacks_Hard💪🖤
Well said Nigel! What a legend
I liked the one where he said to Dan Carter...Don't swear now, you're on tele. I think it was the World Cup final between NZ and France at Eden Park. It was a battle of a match and in the closing stages Carter must must have been feeling on his last legs before taking a penalty line kick.
If it was the world cup final, it would have been the 2015 final between NZ and Aus, the only final Nigel reff'd.
I’d like to hear your thoughts on the first two wales tries
Some tries we never will let go of eh?
@@madisntit6547 I don’t think it’s fair to say that we would’ve lost anyway, especially when the two tries in question were the the first two that they scored. For all we know if they had been disallowed then the Welsh would’ve felt hard done by and morale could’ve dropped for them and they could’ve lost. We don’t have any idea how the outcome could’ve been different/stayed the same. I think it’s unlikely that England would’ve won but like I say we can’t know for sure cos it didn’t happen
@@madisntit6547 my dad went to the same school as Brian Moore and used to play with him under his captaincy and he said that if England were still under him then half the team wouldn’t have eardrums at the end of that game. One player though who you could tell had a bollocking at half time was Daly. In the first half he barely passed the ball at all and probably cost us a couple of potential tries, then in the second he was doing nothing but passing, not trying to step anyone or anything
@@madisntit6547 you too bro 🤝
Nigel goes through both of these on his video on the World Rugby channel - both not tries in his opinion.
Thank you sir ..!!! You are singular…
1:03 it’s oo I ham 😂
Nigel you are the BEST EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
loved this one Nigel you are a Legend
The Greatest Referee we'll ever see 🏉
"Complains and going like this....." - you mean doing a Dan Biggar?
Who is using his platform now?
But I don't see any uproar about that.
My favourite Nigel's One-Liner is 'That throw In is straighter than I am' awesome Ref.
Noooo, “I’m straighter than that”!
Ok, but why he said "this is not soccer" and didn't say "this is not football"...?
Because obviously it's "football" in his language, so why he thinks Italians translate "calcio" in "soccer"...?
Nigel is pretty old school. Perhaps he calls it soccer as a way to differentiate between ‘Association soccer’ and ‘Rugby Football’
Rugby football is the old name for rugby. Hence why most rugby clubs in Wales have RFC in their names, Rugby Football Club.
Nigel is a great ref, but a terrible advocate for free speech...once it was considered wrong to advocate for gay people (or even be gay). Falau's religious beliefs are his, and only affect you if you think there is a heaven to be excluded from: he did NOT advocate for violence, which a lot of gay rights activists have called for against Falau.
He should never have lost his job, just in the same vein no one should lose their job for their sexuality...
Folau sued the Australian Rugby Union, and they settled out of court with a sum of 3 million dollars.
So Folau was not just morally correct but legally correct too.
Lots of gay people are also Christians, and it is incredibly hurtful for another Christian to say that they're going to hell, especially when it's someone famous who has a following.
When someone with a platform says something like this it legitimises homophobia, it gives encouragement to homophobes.
The problem with hate speech isn't just that it causes emotional harm, it leads directly to actual prejudice and, in this case, physical harm. Gay people are discriminated when trying to get jobs and houses, when booking holidays, in all sorts of ways. It's still illegal in many countries. They are also frequently assaulted and even murdered for their sexuality. Nobody just randomly, out of the blue decided to be prejudiced against a gay person. They do so because they hear other people talking about it and are part of a culture in which it's seen as wrong.
Bottom line is, you don't get to pick your sexuality and it is utterly disgusting to criticise someone for something they didn't choose. And if you don't see it, it's probably because you're a straight, white, cis male and don't have to care. Correct?
@@gordon1545
Your last paragraph gives away your core beliefs: whilst sounding like a tolerant, empathetic and reasonable person in the first few paragraphs, you ACTUALLY believe that anyone who doesn't think/believe/behave like you, has no Rights and is a danger to everyone else (like a rotten apple in a barrel, infecting everything it touches). People get attacked for all sorts of reasons, but generally it's for being different in some way (look at murderous tribal conflicts), so sexuality is just another reason. However, in the West this is fairly rare (although in Britain it has increased in recent years, probably due to an influx of people who really don't like gay people and want to throw them off rooftops) and is seen as the exception, not the cultural norm. Your use of the term 'cis' suggests you adhere to modern beliefs, such as critical race theory and that gender is a social construct, and I'm fairly certain you also believe in the gender wage gap. I'm curious to know if you do...
Btw, as another poster has pointed out, Folau actually won his court case, proving that facts trump feelings and that free speech isn't dead quite yet: although people like you would wish it so.
Have a think about the world your beliefs would create and see if history has already tried it...
To me your just saying (while trying to discreet) "I'm allowed to be a bully bigot and you simply have to take it." A person can't help it if he is gay and so what does it matter? The bible has made a few incorrect statements that haven't timed well and it is so with homosexuality. Why would someone go to hell for simply loving another?
@@leighfoulkes7297
Critical thinking skills have taken a tumble if you can get that rubbish from my comment ( the law agrees with my position, btw)...have a re-read
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Folau wasn't spreading hate
Saying people who are homosexuals are going to hell is spreading hate
Folau was standing up for the truth
@@kijilaovere2078 why is it the truth? Because a carpenter said so 2000 years ago?
@@walruspanda8768 If the carpenter is God, yes!
Folau plays for Catalan Dragons now. He survived the persecution of the mass media and sued the Australian rugby union which was settled out of court with a sum of 3 million dollars.
I think all these rugby channels owe Folau an apology.
Greatest ref!! Legend!!
But can we stop talking politics and religion on a sports podcast?
What about those people who believe the bible, and believe homosexuality is a choice, and our sins will take us to hell if we don't get saved?
I want his views on rugby, not religion.
Leave your anti-christian hate until the recording has finished!
You're free to believe all those things, his beliefs are not what got him fired. Based on what you've said here I'd like to think you would much rather have had Folau's views on rugby, not religion but somehow I think you're ok with him mixing religion into his official platform through which he represented the Wallabies and his sponsors. He'd previously been warned, challenged the administration to do something and his bluff got called. Good on him, he chose his religion over his Wallabies contract, no anti-Christian hate here.
@@D4N1CU5 I mean there's two ways to do it. Either we're happy for people to have their own opinions and will allow them to voice it, as it should be, or we shouldn't allow any political or religious talk.
I think we should be adults and let people say what they want.
What's not fair is people being allowed to say pro-homosexual, pro-trans messaging and be praised, yet people who have a different view, Folau, Vunipola etc get castigated for their views.
I'll fight for Nigel to be able to have his views and speak them. It should just be fair that's all.
@@rhodri6416 This might show up as a duplicate.
There are plenty of places Folau could have expressed his views and not got fired. His church, his home, a private chat group or inside his own head. His work instagram is not one of those places.
I don't think you actually want a world of consequence free opinions. Anti-semitism? White supremacy? Fraud? Perjury? I mean, this very thread started with you suggesting they shouldn't talk about politics or religion, what happened to adults being able to say what they want?
The idea that every message should receive equal treatment or receive some kind of fairness is nonsense. We don't treat moon landing denier's opinions about space travel the same as a NASA engineer's or Buzz Aldrin's. Nor should we treat a positive, supportive message regarding a group of people in the same way as a negative, condemning message about those same people. Especially when that negative message is unsupported by facts.
@@D4N1CU5 It doesn't work like that I'm afraid. That's not free speech.
That's like saying Nigel can only speak up about homosexual things with his homosexual friends.
You can say what you like as long as we don't hear it.
@@D4N1CU5shh
Soccer ⚽️ could really do with tough refereeing disciplinarians with the likes of Nigel Owens himself and Wayne Barnes. 🥅