Chopin Nocturne Eb major Op. 9 no. 2 - Analysis: CUTE and COHERENT

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  • @heyelizabeth_
    @heyelizabeth_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The emojis you use 😭😭💯💯 such a creative way to make us understand what you're trying to convey

  • @hamdisyukriwan
    @hamdisyukriwan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This's the first chopin's works that i knew and learned ... after that time he's been starting to inspire me and influence my style of music

  • @Raymonddoc1
    @Raymonddoc1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thank you for your insightful discussion. This is so useful for those of us who play.

  • @atiana27
    @atiana27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I Don’t get tired of this piece.

  • @wombat5628
    @wombat5628 3 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    Didn't know Edward Snowden was such a great pianist 😊

  • @erikstaflin
    @erikstaflin ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Det är så skönt att kolla på dina analysvideor, och samtidigt inspirerande! Det fångar en verkligen, med alla dessa djupa inblickar i hur styckena är formade och skrivna. Tack!

  • @sofiacaldas6280
    @sofiacaldas6280 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Delicate approch with lightness and sensibility❤❤❤

  • @PianoScenesMoviesandSeries
    @PianoScenesMoviesandSeries 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Lovely video, this is one of Chopin's finest work.

  • @asiagolubchin5533
    @asiagolubchin5533 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Perfect explanation!!!! Thank you!!!

  • @caterscarrots3407
    @caterscarrots3407 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is the first Chopin piece I have played in my 10, almost 11 years as a pianist. Mozart's Piano Concerto no. 21 prepared me for this Nocturne, what with the triplets, light touch, and all.
    And as a matter of fact, I am arranging this Nocturne. I figured that since it is the first Nocturne I have ever played, it's only fair that I arrange this Nocturne as my first Chopin arrangement.
    I first looked on IMSLP for arrangements of Chopin's nocturnes and the ones I see basically amount to this:
    Piano: Left hand rewritten for 2 hands
    Other instrument/s: Right hand melody
    With my arrangement though, I am taking the right hand melody and putting it in the flute, spreading the left hand chords across the cello, viola, and second violin, and having the first violin play a harmony part.
    When I need a harmony part, as in the case of my Flute + String Quartet arrangement of Nocturne in Eb, I find that harmony part to be the hardest thing to get right. I mean, just adding to the chords is kind of lame, but at the same time, if I go for a countermelody, I need to both:
    1) Make sure the countermelody isn't too dissonant with the main melody and that any dissonances that exist between the 2 melodies resolve
    2) Make sure the countermelody fits harmonically with the bass line
    And, avoiding voice crossing as much as possible helps to both not drown out the main melody and not make the piece sound more static than it should.
    But, despite the difficulties that countermelodies bring, I'm sure I'll figure out a harmony part that fits both the main melody and the chords. I can upload the arrangement to my TH-cam channel and link it here once I'm finished with it if you want.

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Sounds like you have big plans Carrots! ;)
      I think the chords in strings and melody in the flute would work fine, and then you have some contours of melody in the underlying voices making up the chords. I would be careful to add new voices, but if that's what you want to do then it will be something more than the original Nocturne, and that's fine too. Feel free to share the arrangement when you have done it, I would like to see it.

    • @Jimmy-ut5cv
      @Jimmy-ut5cv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My first chopin piece was Raindrop prelude and my second one was this one. I think chopin is very hard, it took me 2 months to finish Nocturne in E flat 😂😂😂

  • @carlreichenberg5096
    @carlreichenberg5096 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Strålande idé Henrik! Du är en mycket god pedagog.Ser fram emot fortsättningen!

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tack Carl! Jag har spelat in ganska mycket redan så det ska komma ett nytt stycke i veckan framöver. Mycket Chopin i början men sedan andra kompositörer också.

  • @ezildasmith6511
    @ezildasmith6511 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a joy to hear your performance and hear your explanations and observations! Thank you.

  • @MrCaleb0526
    @MrCaleb0526 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love this pianist's musical interpretation of the nocturn op. 2 no. 2 and also like his clear tone production on the piano.

  • @SonataSecrets
    @SonataSecrets  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @myrocky0774
    @myrocky0774 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is another lovely interpretation of the music and another nice curtain on the windows.

  • @nopilldevelopment
    @nopilldevelopment ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you for this wonderful breakdown; but I must object to this piece being called 'cute.' It is deeply and profoundly beautiful

  • @hurricane_hazel
    @hurricane_hazel หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love your videos! Thank you!

  • @ad2409
    @ad2409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is going to help me submit good work for music class at long last™ thank you mr Pianist

  • @jeimeluk4816
    @jeimeluk4816 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so very much and looking forward to hearing from you the analysis of Op9 No1, 🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹

  • @AnaPaula-np5rq
    @AnaPaula-np5rq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remembered the movie Jane Eyre version 1997, when she plays piano for Mr Rochester ♥️♥️♥️😁

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven't seen that!

    • @AnaPaula-np5rq
      @AnaPaula-np5rq 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SonataSecrets🤓 Jane Eyre is a novel of English literature written by Charlotte Brontë. The film was a short adaptation, because the book is more detailed. The Brontë sisters wrote several books. But certainly this type of literature interests women more, as most dream too much. In the piano scene he asks her to play a song on the piano.

  • @dekzan
    @dekzan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Precious material.

  • @dhiriapane4665
    @dhiriapane4665 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hi. Thank you for wonderful video! I have one question. In bar 7, after trill, Why do you play E flat instead of E natural? If I'm right, Pollini also played like that, so I wondered why.

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! There are actually different versions in editions with E flat or E natural. My physical score had Eb, that's why I changed in the score I used here. But you are right, most pianists play E nat but Pollini also plays Eb.

  • @keithkunikida1222
    @keithkunikida1222 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The whistling emoji is just cute

  • @raulqa
    @raulqa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I love your Nocturne videos! You're helping me understand why I like them so much. I hope maybe you could some day make one for op. 30 no. 2 Lento

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you! If you mean Op. 32 no. 2 Lento in A flat major (?) you are very lucky, that one will come in the next couple of weeks!

    • @raulqa
      @raulqa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SonataSecrets Incredible! I can't wait, I'm writing a screenplay and I'm studying that nocturne and also Op. 55 No. 2, to inspire me the characters' inner life. Thanks for your videos!

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting! That's probably the best inspiration you can get imho... I haven't played Op 55 no 2 more than just looked through it, but I admire it and I might do it next year or so. It's a more complex work with two voices talking to each other for much of the piece, and lovely chromatic harmonies at times!

    • @raulqa
      @raulqa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SonataSecrets I will be waiting for that video too. There's very little material like yours in youtube, it surprises me. thanks again and best of luck.

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@raulqa Thank you! Tell your friends about me ;)

  • @djjoeykmusic
    @djjoeykmusic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video
    Thank you

  • @shiararomeldam.collantes3829
    @shiararomeldam.collantes3829 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had an easier time with the nocturne because of this video! Can you do Chopin’s Op9 No.1 it’s also one of my favorites.

  • @sabmat5876
    @sabmat5876 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you please do nocturne op 72 n 2 ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ love your channel so much, such a talented and super knowledgeable man. I’ve been watching your videos for years

  • @PartySpock
    @PartySpock 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    it,s likely the same of one of John Field,s nocturne ,s .thank you , wonderful

  • @johnburgess951
    @johnburgess951 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good, thank you.

  • @luigivercotti6410
    @luigivercotti6410 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The ending chord always brings me flashbacks from the 6th's last movement, and then I wish I was listening to that instead >:)

  • @nerdypianist6277
    @nerdypianist6277 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love these videos

  • @Jimmy-ut5cv
    @Jimmy-ut5cv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    It feels like falling in love with someone that will never be yours

    • @psicolambo
      @psicolambo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's it, you can feel the angusty, but at the same time it is so so warm and reconfortable. It can actually be familiar with dozens of situations and I think that's what makes this piece so special and popular

    • @timothyragland4190
      @timothyragland4190 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They would be liebestraum no.3 by Liszt

    • @Jimmy-ut5cv
      @Jimmy-ut5cv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@timothyragland4190 Actually im learning how to play that piece for a competition :D

    • @chrisy367
      @chrisy367 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think most nocturnes feel that way, it's either love or tragedy

  • @台中一中藝能科呂靜宜
    @台中一中藝能科呂靜宜 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful

  • @hueduongminh2061
    @hueduongminh2061 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great!

  • @petertarsio7168
    @petertarsio7168 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Learn the Left Hand first and foremost as its the harmonic undermining for the melody above all. This is one of the most played and the melody was used in popular music as a love song. Dies anyone know the name of the song?

  • @viktorenano3516
    @viktorenano3516 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Henrik Can you do Nocturne Op 27

  • @MN-jl5rk
    @MN-jl5rk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Op 9 n1 please please plaseeeeeee

  • @siclusiferx
    @siclusiferx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    BRAVOOO

  • @irfanraza3812
    @irfanraza3812 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you please please do "chopin nocturne op. 9 no. 1"

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  ปีที่แล้ว

      Done!
      th-cam.com/video/j5sOlWPyAvg/w-d-xo.html

  • @margarethansen7480
    @margarethansen7480 ปีที่แล้ว

    👏👏👏❤️❤❤

  • @danielliu7651
    @danielliu7651 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg, you look like Snowden Edward :-)

  • @resulabbaszade5341
    @resulabbaszade5341 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you make Turkish subtitles?

  • @phillipmcgarry1315
    @phillipmcgarry1315 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was hoping for some analysis?

  • @ImvN8Lex
    @ImvN8Lex ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn, I never knew Edward Snowden played a piano

  • @jeanpierrelachkar9667
    @jeanpierrelachkar9667 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Le pianiste est bon mais ce nocturne devrait être joué comme un nocturne ! avec de la retenue et non comme une valse ! Voir la version jouée parfaitement par Rubinstein, la meilleure selon moi

  • @damoon57
    @damoon57 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You look better without mustache

  • @mascagny
    @mascagny 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    no!!! it'S not suddenly soft! there is a diminuendo taking it from p to pp!

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, I think the diminuendo is only for the melody, in some editions it's written only an accent on G instead. But anyway the 8th note F should of course be softer due to the tie.

    • @mascagny
      @mascagny 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@SonataSecrets Ok i see!
      question, in a piano score, if they wanted a diminuendo only for the melody, wouldnt they put it on the top of the melody instead of in the middle?
      and, sorry for my agressive tone, i'm some kind of music extremist, but in no case i diminish your work! it's awesome, and more initiatives like that are needed!

    • @mascagny
      @mascagny 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i'v looked in the first edition. the diminuendo is weird, quite short, like only for the first two 8th notes, but closer to the melody.
      Also, why wouldn't he write Sub. PP?
      wait, does any one use Sub. PP or it is onlz sub. P?

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      well, I'm saying subito just to emphasize that it comes suddenly, it's not in the score here anyway. These short diminuendos close to the melody - sometimes it could be hard to distinguish if the composer mean a dim or just an accent from the original handwriting, I think maybe in Schubert too you can find different interpretation in printed editions.
      And thanks, no worries!

    • @mascagny
      @mascagny 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SonataSecrets yep! I know this problems. in the singing scores we have more signs that are problematic.
      I really believe that the interpretation is much less rigid than how it's teached nowadays!