Two EASY options for dead retro Mac power supplies!

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  • The Macintosh IIsi and LC series are known to have power supplies that tend to fail. Instead of rolling the dice by trying to recap and clean your original PSU, let's take a look at two options that offer guaranteed success and minimal hassle (with a bonus option for if you hate yourself).
    Links:
    CayMac Vintage Power-Up-IIusi PCB kit for Mac IIsi: ko-fi.com/s/e7...
    With it, you'll also need the following...
    Power supply module for IIsi (affiliate link): amzn.to/3YgXPMT
    ATX pico PSU for IIsi (affiliate link): amzn.to/3Nl2gjx
    CayMac Vintage Power-Up-Pizza PCB kit or LC series: ko-fi.com/s/fc...
    With it, you'll also need the following...
    Power supply module for LC-series (affiliate link): amzn.to/3Y1hmPX
    ATX pico PSU for LC-series (affiliate link): amzn.to/3Nl2gjx
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  • @mordecaiepsilon
    @mordecaiepsilon 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +25

    I love the use of a standard and pico power supply. Such a simple solution elegantly integrated together

  • @mirage809
    @mirage809 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I love the vintage Mac scene and their dedication to keeping these machines in working order. Hard drives becoming unreliable? We’re gonna invent a hard drive replacement for them. Power supplies starting to go bad? We’ll just make kits for replacement PSUs, no problem.
    Also, I miss monitor pass through on PC power supplies. Such a convenient little feature.

  • @maximcoppieters
    @maximcoppieters วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    This comes at such perfect timing. I just got an LC that doesn't start. It's my first 68k era mac, so i'm not very comfortable with these restorations yet. Thank you for this!

    • @AmigaofRochester
      @AmigaofRochester 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      It's cheap to rebuild the PSU. if you're in the us, i offer rebuild services. I've rebuilt tons of LCs and the PSU rarely are unrecoverable.

    • @michvod
      @michvod 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      You just need to fully recap it (except the big main filter capacitor) and it will work :) I recapped dozens of those LC PSUs all with great success, all of them started working after a full recap and a good cleanup in an IPA bath

  • @mortenborg
    @mortenborg 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The first LC was my first Mac - so much nostalgia! Happy to see you giving them good care.

  • @erinwiebe7026
    @erinwiebe7026 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

    It's always good to see new solutions like this! I recapped my LCIII & Q605 logic boards & PSU's to address these issues a while ago. I'm glad I did, but would have preferred these modern PSU replacements had they been available at the time.

  • @okonvick
    @okonvick 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    This is absolutely fantastic! I have been looking for a modern alternative to the old PSU for my LC 375 for years. And in the end, this seems to be much more elegant than I hoped. Thanks for the video Colin, you made my day!

  • @cleanycloth
    @cleanycloth วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    The power supply recently died in my LCII and I think was causing sporadic issues before that happened. Glad to see there’s replacements! I’m lucky that my caps haven’t damaged the power supply so I’ll repair mine first and see what happens. If not, then I know what to buy!

    • @AmigaofRochester
      @AmigaofRochester 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      the LC PSUs are extremely rebuildable. rarely they are not recoverable.

    • @cleanycloth
      @cleanycloth 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@AmigaofRochester I think one cap was slightly wet underneath but I wiped that up straight away. Just need to source the replacements and actually do the repair lol

    • @michvod
      @michvod 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@AmigaofRochester I repaired probably close to 100 of those, all of them just needed a recap. All of them started working after a recap and a good wash (and drying of course)

    • @EeveeEuphoria
      @EeveeEuphoria 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      wishing you luck on the repair!

  • @sirlemonhead7715
    @sirlemonhead7715 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Good luck with the boards you're working on with Kai :)

  • @rass1959
    @rass1959 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I’m surely glad I found your channel. I have a lot of those pizza boxes probably 20 and all one year I went around Goodwill‘s and I have I don’t even remember how many of those and then I have a few of two SI’s no problems but I don’t run them very often. I just got them out of storage after four years. I had him in a shed where he used to live and one was on the bottom and it gathered moisture, but I fixed it, but a couple of them had problems one of them. The battery had corrosion and it broke off, but I have so many of these that doesn’t really matter but anyway, I love your procedures. They’re so Preciseanyway this latest video I like so I know there’s a answer to some of the old max which I have over 100.

  • @Spillmansgarage
    @Spillmansgarage 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I’m so happy you posted this! I have a LC II with a bad PSU. I was going to just give it to someone. Now I think I’ll fix it. 😃

  • @rolfsinkgraven
    @rolfsinkgraven 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Love the new old stuff, it makes repairs faster.

  • @PCUSER486
    @PCUSER486 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Glad to know. I have a mint condition iisi and not sure yet if it's a dead PRAM battery or power supply yet. ☹️ Not to familiar, but if a PRAM battery dies, will it not turn on? Some say it won't even power up? Thx for this video 😊

  • @crouchinghamster6407
    @crouchinghamster6407 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I love my IIsi! Not having power pass through for the monitor is a major bummer -- it's part of the computer's charm.

  • @adiener
    @adiener 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    I have a failing LC power supply that I'm going to try recapping. Just got the necessary parts in the mail for it, but it's good to know that I'll have a better option if that doesn't do the trick!

    • @michvod
      @michvod 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Remove caps, wash with some degreaser and lots of water, repeat the was 2-3 times. Dry fully with hairdryer then leave 3-4 days to 100% dry. Reinstall new caps, and it will work. I repaired dozens like that and they always worked after that

  • @VictorNelvanaShows
    @VictorNelvanaShows วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am so glad you fix the psu.

  • @gregcoons7308
    @gregcoons7308 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I shoehorned a Meanwell unit into my IIsi...a bit more soldering and no softpower (more because I was lazy), but it works like a charm! Wish I'd known about these options :)

  • @bluephreakr
    @bluephreakr 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Nah, sorry Colin. Screw terminals are meant for ferrules. Now granted, as a budget-conscious user I would had went stranded or if I could stuff it in there, _fake_ the ferrule by wrapping the conductor around itself on the insulation but _never_ would I solder the copper; the idea with _not_ doing that is the stress which is caused by bound copper conductors being forced to pancake with the solder, thus introducing the possibility of damaged conductors which would snap apart under tension.

  • @Markimark151
    @Markimark151 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I got a few Macintosh computers that have dead power supplies in my cousin’s storage locker, hopefully we can get them fixed otherwise we might think about selling them at an online auction!

  • @ChrononSyndrome
    @ChrononSyndrome วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    7:44 Cat Jumpscare

  • @cURLybOi
    @cURLybOi วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    thankfully, power supply is just a power supply. no need for exotic chips no longer made. you can have a completely different power supply design but as long as it provides stable enough dc voltage, it is 100% compatible :)

    • @owenkelsey6279
      @owenkelsey6279 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      In some cases it’s capacitors that are no longer made and they are the size of a febreeze can.

    • @cURLybOi
      @cURLybOi 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@owenkelsey6279 i didn't mean fixing existing supplys but you can replace it by any other psu of the same voltages/current limit

  • @ChairmanMeow1
    @ChairmanMeow1 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Ive fixed a lot of stuff but messing with PSUs is still beyond my comfort level :D

  • @bensow5491
    @bensow5491 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    thanks for producing

  • @only1ydk
    @only1ydk วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Have a great day 😎💾

  • @lordofhyphens
    @lordofhyphens 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    It is generally a bad idea to tin when running leads into terminal blocks. The tinned wire will form a poorer connection to the block (which relies on mechanical force, not unlike crimping), also the solder can flow and worsen the connection as it wears, leading to damage to the connector.
    If you don't want to put bare wire in (understandable given it is possible to miss a whisker and cause a short), there are crimp-on pin connectors that you can get that solve the problem neatly. They are basically made for terminal blocks and just work

    • @lordofhyphens
      @lordofhyphens 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      And by "damage to the connector", I mean "melted connectors and nonzero probability of fire"

  • @dreadpiratekristo
    @dreadpiratekristo วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is awesome. These machines can't die until we say they can, dammit!

  • @desertkun
    @desertkun วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    2:06 you're undertemping your soldering iron - give it 20-40 more degrees, I can see that it struggles to melt the solder.

  • @Geekeh_UK
    @Geekeh_UK 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    If you wanted to replicate the original functionality of the pass-through, it'd only require a single 12V switching 110V/220V relay.

  • @myfatdiabeticlife8799
    @myfatdiabeticlife8799 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    this is great news for me i was looking to replace my power supply on my IIsi it just failed for the 2nd time

  • @BollingHolt
    @BollingHolt 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Ahh, yes... I think the Macintosh II era chime is my favorite.

  • @bredfrowngames
    @bredfrowngames วันที่ผ่านมา

    Much love to Will at CayMac Vintage! :) He does amazing work.

  • @angrydove4067
    @angrydove4067 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    What a nice kitty!

  • @RacerX-
    @RacerX- 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Awesome solution! My only criticism with these sort of projects is availability. By the time videos like this come out I have found that these and similar projects are usually sold out. That is the case here. Perhaps they could make them available for other sellers like JCM, to produce and stock.

  • @GimmeTOKYO
    @GimmeTOKYO 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Completely off topic but your cat is so pretty 🥹💕

  • @jonathankleinow2073
    @jonathankleinow2073 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I hope you'll consider making the trek down to VCF Midwest in Chicago next year!

  • @theshadowman1398
    @theshadowman1398 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    My G4 MDD’s PSU a couple of years ego gave up the ghost. Luckily there was a guy on eBay selling converter cable for ATX PSU’s. So with a 3D printed bracket and an SFX PSU my G4 looks stock and has a much better PSU.

  • @MagnumForce51
    @MagnumForce51 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Curious how difficult it would be to add soft-power support to LC/SE/SE30s via custom PSU. Would probably imagine it'd require mods to the mobo though. Would be cool to turn a LC on via the keyboard power button like you can with some of the later Macs. :P

  • @sinjinhawke
    @sinjinhawke วันที่ผ่านมา

    My LC475 power supply started doing the click of death a couple years ago. These options were not available so I ordered a capacitor kit from Console 5 and tried my rookie hand at cap replacing. Was shocked and delighted when the machine started back up.
    Now to replace the Analogue power from my Mac Plus. I did a cap replacement for that but still getting the jittery screen. I think it’s the flyback so will be looking at the options that bypass that completely.

  • @DanRawkt
    @DanRawkt 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    since the ac-out has now power all the time, never reach to the plug or socket without watching what you do... bcuz its easy to touch now by mistake 😊 1:53

    • @lordofhyphens
      @lordofhyphens 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I suspect that a printed cover is warranted

  • @vap0rland
    @vap0rland 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I sold a crap load of these systems, back in the day. 40% sales margins. That's why they were so much more expensive than PCs.

  • @ultimatehunter36
    @ultimatehunter36 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great Videos my man!

  • @macsenplays
    @macsenplays 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    7:44 Cute kitty

  • @liljonwask
    @liljonwask 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    You should not tin the wire ends if you are going to be putting them into block terminals. You've effectively removed the "springy-ness" of the wire ends, and this will eventually lead to a loose connection. I believe the technical term is "solder creep"?

  • @bonno666
    @bonno666 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Check the plastic clip from the memoryslot in the LCIII not fully bend back at 07:08 minutes in the video. It was bend heavily. But maybe it was corrected after the video.

  • @kjoh42
    @kjoh42 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Details on the soft power transistor, please. Is that included in the kit, and does the kit now include the correct one?

  • @adventureoflinkmk2
    @adventureoflinkmk2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    4:05 hopefully you didnt go chasing any waterfalls or fall for any scrubs 😏😂😂😂

  • @smileyface8124
    @smileyface8124 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    is it just me or is the intro music getting less loud every vid

  • @pishbot
    @pishbot 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    excellent

  • @isaacsorensen8377
    @isaacsorensen8377 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I got a Power Mac 7200/90 with a dead PSU for cheap. The caps weren't leaking so I just replaced them

  • @JeremyBolanos
    @JeremyBolanos 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    ooo - I need a replacement power supply for a Performa 6300CD. I hope one comes up.

  • @brandonacevedo9574
    @brandonacevedo9574 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Looks nice but I’m not a fan of the brand of capacitors they’ve used

  • @thewi2kbug
    @thewi2kbug 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I would have put a toggle switch for the monitor pass-through

  • @OctavioGaitan
    @OctavioGaitan 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Things to do with a LC or IIsi case: use it for a sleeper gaming build.
    Do they sell those pre-assembled?

  • @nicktasios1862
    @nicktasios1862 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Recently the PSU on my 840AV blew up, and I’m looking for a replacement ATX, but it’s difficult to come by ones with strong enough 5V rail. Unfortunately no replacements are made for these power supplies yet.

  • @coilgunhacks6211
    @coilgunhacks6211 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Hey. Do you try to let the computer run longer than originally? Then you shouldn't solder the leads that go into screw Terminals....😅

    • @puciohenzap891
      @puciohenzap891 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Tinned leads will break over time in a screw terminal, no?

    • @lordofhyphens
      @lordofhyphens 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@puciohenzap891correct. There's dedicated pin crimps if you want to keep those wires tidy and they work very well

    • @coilgunhacks6211
      @coilgunhacks6211 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@puciohenzap891 kind of. the tin will soften and the screw will get lose. so they will be prone to shorting.

  • @Rodville
    @Rodville วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What's the power draw of the new solution versus the original power supply? I would imagine using modern parts makes it more efficient and cheaper to run.

  • @andresbravo2003
    @andresbravo2003 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I should really know this

  • @FuchsDanin
    @FuchsDanin 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    @6:17 the solder on that 90 degree ATX connector looks -terrible-. That kind of work definitely can't make it into a finished product. Definitely inspect and refresh the solder there, it will crack with age.

  • @rgdickenson
    @rgdickenson 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Thankfully, I got to my IIsi psu before any leaking occurred.
    Still, nice to have. The original IIsi also has the reputation for being underpowered or not powerful enough to handle the draw of add-on cards - this new psu solve that potential issue?

  • @robsquared2
    @robsquared2 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The name fits 2SI = to sigh.

  • @MartinPittBradley
    @MartinPittBradley 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I commend this, and wish I had more time

  • @drzeissler
    @drzeissler 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    seems critcal to me on LC series with Iie card and one or more external floppys!

  • @rascalwind
    @rascalwind 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Chimy cool.

  • @explodinglemur
    @explodinglemur 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Alas, both boards are sold out :(

  • @tyberzann9713
    @tyberzann9713 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Do not tin the wires for screw terminals.
    Just get ferrals and bobs your uncle.
    Has not to be „nice“ - it’s just safety.

  • @KevinTwiner
    @KevinTwiner 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

  • @CaptainRufus
    @CaptainRufus 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Sadly the iisi kit is already out of stock.

  • @2dfx
    @2dfx 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm not a fan of either of these solutions. A properly designed solution shouldn't require modification of the PSU housing, nor should it rely on the user to wire up sub-assemblies that are not included. These just seem to be rushed in order to sell units. The soft power issue with the IIsi is the perfect example. This should have been caught before these became available for sale.

    • @theforerunnerreclaimer
      @theforerunnerreclaimer 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      They're still in beta right now, so I'd assume *most* issues will be fixed by the time the full version comes out

  • @radman999
    @radman999 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    You should not tin leads that go into phoenix connectors. It is a fire hazard.

  • @ukmk3supra
    @ukmk3supra 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    th-cam.com/video/TEKa_3LN_QA/w-d-xo.html - gee, that looks familiar.... ;)

  • @2xtreem4u
    @2xtreem4u 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    i have a LC without a power supply

  • @LxRv
    @LxRv วันที่ผ่านมา

    OMG A CAT

  • @willfultrain6779
    @willfultrain6779 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Cat!

  • @gloomyoceanexplorer
    @gloomyoceanexplorer 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Like for cat :)

  • @ajax700
    @ajax700 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    All the videos you make tend to show that Apple quality was very low/lacking/etc., to not say cr*p, even for high end machines back in the 80s/90s.
    (cheap?) plastic hinges, cheap plastic cases, bad electrical components, hard to fix proprietary boards.
    This got worse as mr. Louis Rossmann constantly documents today.
    Best wishes.

  • @rosariodagosto6484
    @rosariodagosto6484 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    just replace old mac power supply's
    with us brand 😊😊😊

  • @scramble45
    @scramble45 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    NGL the Sony PSU is probably designed better than these.