I once heard from someone that we need to take ourselves 'out of the performance' music is something we share together we as musicians are just the vessel. Look at your performance as giving. It's a gift you want to share no matter how basic the song is it's your gift to your audience.
Well, that's a killer tip. I never saw it that way, but now that you said it, it makes 100% sense. Makes me think of when we are just jamming, seems like "music plays by itself" and we are just listeners... Those times everything sounds just awesome.
@@juanmoralesvideo yes a very similar mindset to that. bottom line is to be relaxed and let it flow. your audience will sense that lack of tension in you and respond better.
This is such good advice...Reminds me of the story Eric Bibb told about when he met Bob Dylan as a 8 year old boy and told Bob that he wanted to be a musician like him, and Bob simply replied...."That's great kid. Don't worry about all that fancy stuff. Keep it simple."
This is the best advice I have ever received on playing music. Where were you when I was playing in all of those bands, doing it all wrong, for all of those years? I didn't give up on playing music, but I gave up playing for others, because I never could figure out exactly where I was going wrong. I thought I just didn't have what it takes. Now I understand and see things so much clearer. I've been wanting to get another band together, and after seeing this, I am so much less anxious about it. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
It took me a while to realize this. As a lead player in a band, I was always more concerned with getting it right. Finally realized half way through a big gig (that wasn’t going so great in my opinion) that once I gave up trying to impress myself and just have a good time the crowd go way more into it. Greatest tip of all time right here.
What you are saying here supports what I heard long ago...the 5 T's. Timing, Taste, Tone, Tuning and very lastly Technique. Get totally immersed in the song. Thanks!!
I play with the simplest of chords , i lean on my singing with i really enjoy, and inter act with people in the street with great eye contact, smiles and banter.
Great points, Frank. If you're tense and worried about what you are doing, the audience can feel that as well. I remember going to a vineyard and there was a younger guy doing solo acoustic. His guitar was out of tune. His chording was very poor and his voice wasn't that great, but he was into it, and therefore the crowd felt that And responded in kind.
I like this video. Thanks for the advice! I haven't read the book you recommend, but I will. I have one thing I would add, as someone who gets gigs as a solo acoustic guitar/singer guy - a fellow troubadour, and a little contradictory to the idea of "wait until you can play the song effortlessly." Practicing a song in my room is always going to be a different experience than playing in front of an audience. They are two related, but separate skills. I can play a complex song over and over until it's practically perfect in my room alone, but I'm still going to make mistakes on it when I introduce it to a live set. I've learned that's ok. I'm allowed to make mistakes even in front of people. I'm a human being and I my job isn't to be perfect. My job is to be entertaining. Of course rehearse your material, do your homework, but also don't be afraid to take risks and make mistakes during a show. The first time you play a difficult song in front of an audience is not going to go as well as your best take rehearsing it 500 times. Not as good as your best 50 takes. Accept that reality. It also won't go as well as your future 100th time playing it live. But the only way to get to that 100th time is to start with your first time playing it.
I can't begin to tell you how true this is. I am not a guitar player but, I have played a few tunes using one. Like mentioned three chords and the audience was mesmerized. I perform on various Native American Flutes. Even when a mistake is made the audience would not know. I agree and wish to add that it is stage presence and delivery. Once an artist commands the stage, the artist will have positive feedback from an audience. It is about delivery and passion. Thank you Sir for posting this. 👍✌🙏😎
On Heart's Dreamboat Annie Live DVD, Nancy flubs the opening to "Crazy on You," laughs, and starts again. It was literally that moment that made me learn to relax and enjoy myself on stage, because like you put it-- the show is about how you make them feel.
i was at a david gray concert where he forgot the lyrics to the entire 2nd verse and stopped the band. the audience loved it and i was SO able to relate to that moment.
Indeed Boss, No truer words were ever spoken.. One of the hard truths in playing live is, playing what impresses you, Will probably not impress the audience. For all the reasons you just explained. when you're trying to impress, the fun vanishes. As well as insulating yourself from the people there. Just play music you can handle with ease. Be relaxed & enjoy and the people will respond. We are there to entertain, Play relatable songs. It is not a music recital. That's a whole different animal .. (a recital I mean)
So true. Whenever I tried to learn shred was worst time in my guitar journey. I felt bad about myself. I sounded horrible. I appreciate these guitar god shredders out there. I’m just not one of them I had to accept that, move on, and continue my guitar learning journey growing my skills in other ways.
Great advice. Went out busking for the first time recently and just played for fun. Got a lot of smiles, some nods, and a few tips. Loving your videos!
This message is sure to hit home with a great many of us (including me). It confirms what I have always observed, during 15 years in an acoustic duo alongside various rock bands, and now my solo acoustic life: Folks resonate most when emotions are conveyed, and that works best as a solo (or perhaps duo) performer. Less is more. And I don‘t show off my stuff as much as I immerse myself in the emotions of each song. It really does work…without even trying. 😊
Great advice. A gigantic light went on in my head. I listen to guitarists very critically for good technique, complexity and skill. But that's me. Most members of an audience don't play musical instruments and they don't even perceive complexity or come to a performance to be impressed with a guitarist’s skill. They just want to feel the music, or hear a message. Now I get it. I want people to feel something emotional when I sing and play. Forget about the one or two musicians in the audience who are listening for complexity and difficult technique, like I too often do. Those folks matter far less than the ones who just want to love a good song and feel it. Thanks so much.
Great advice! I just ordered the book on the basis of your great video! I recently did a solo acoustic gig for a friend´s birthday. I found that playing in front of 25 folks that you know is more difficult than playing in front of 300 that you do not know!! That said, my gigging life was as a bass player and vocalist in bands, not as a solo acoustic artist. It went ok, but I was really stressed. The next day I became ill with a virus and was really ill for over 2 weeks. It took 4 weeks to be able to sing again and 6 before I was back to normal. I blame the stressing out!! I am 68 years old and nowadays just play and record in my home studio. This last gig was done as a favor. I wish I had seen your video before my gig!! Playing as part of a band is so totally different!! Keep up the great videos. Best wishes from an old English rocker in Spain. Thanks for what you do!
Similar story. I'm 64 and have gigged as a bass player since the late 70s -- and recently just started performing solo as singer/guitarist. And the realization, after having so much trepidation about it, is *just relax and do it* --it isn't a big deal if you've prepared well and know the material.
Thanks so much for the comment! I can totally relate to it being easier at times to play for a larger group than a more Intimate group! Yeah dude anything we can do to reduce the stress and anxiety helps not only music but everything!! Easier said than done but that’s the goal lol!!
@@FrankPersico This is why the 90s grunge bands were so popular. Much of it could be played by a beginner to intermediate player, but the passion came out in lyrics and body language.
I played my first open mic night in years last night, and my wife told me she could see my face tense up when I played a note "imperfectly" or if I backed down from a note. From that night, the thing that people remembered the most was my song that had everything to do with personality and connection (it was a song called Pop Tart) and the other ones that were more technically different did not hit as hard. Glad to see your video when I did.
I used to notice weird shit that I did when I would watch my videos back. Like my eyes would dart around all over the room so concerned with what people were doing. It was insecurity. It’s good when you get that honest feedback. Helps us improve
I play piano and that's awesome advice and insightful too. I see many advanced players throw everything they know into one tune they're performing. Improvising with every technique riff motif run every scale they know... pentatonic, blues, chromatic, diminished, mixolydian, mixo-blues etc. It sounds so busy and distorted to the point where sometimes the familiar tune their playing is almost unrecognizable.
To me that’s selfish playing. Again nothing “bad” but it’s playing to suit yourself and not necessarily what the audience can relate to. That being said I have been guilty of it lol! 😂
I’ve played with other guitarists that were technical wizards but were mechanical. On the other hand I’ve played with people that had the ability to play with emotion they were the ones that were the most enjoyable.
Hi Frank, what can I say!! You absolutely nailed it! Very strongly resonate with EVERYTHING you said. I speak from tried and tested experience. When alone, I know I am playing well with emotion but lo and behold, even an 'audience' of 1 albeit family or friend at home, Mr EGO gets in the way and I almost always mess up. Genuine advice but needs repetitive experiences. Profoundly grateful for affirming my reason for 'failure'
Spot on. 45 years as a semi pro. Took me a few decades to "get it". I've seen a few Kenny videos and he's spot on too. Keep it simple, go with your heart and all that knowledge and skills will percolate through without effort. Thinking is best left to the subconscious and let it flow.
Amen, it’s for them not us. When I was trying to incorporate stuff I was learning while leading worship it was such a distraction so I stopped. Then one day it just started coming out naturally. I was explaining to my wife that it’s like someone learning a word for the day, you force it in to conversations. But when it becomes a part of your vocabulary it’s perfect. I had to learn to be patient until they naturally became a part of my musical vocabulary.
I think that's really insigntful. And they say religion is a bad thing... the reality is, if your heart is pure, ie. you're in it to be of service not to make $ or get fame, religion makes you sharper
Great analogy about the word of the day! I’m an ESL person; I just love English so much that I will roll out obscure words all the time. They have exactly the flavor I’m looking for-but it also excludes a lot of people. And in a lot of rooms it comes off as showy. It’s much harder to be simple and direct, but if you can pull it off it’s so powerful!
Great video. You’re right, aside from maybe another musician, the bulk of audiences don’t care how hard something is to play. Went to friend’s gig, he plays lead and can do all the fancy shred stuff, but like the biggest reaction he got from the audience was standing there doing a simple trill between songs as kind of a segue to the next song. The crowd went crazy and began to get loud…over a trill. Lol. Audiences just want to connect and hear the songs that make them dance, sing along and be happy. And if the rest of the band is having fun with them it makes for a great show. Thanks again Frank…loving each one of your videos. Cheers!
I was playing at a party, of all places, and when my friend arrived he saw me playing I had a big grin from playing and singing. He became a diehard fan from then on!
Good message. Audiences want sincerity on top of catchy song with a moving vocal melody. Simple. Like you said, they want to feel something; they do _not_ listen to music to talk about your guitar solo.
I’ve played many, many live gigs, in bands and solo. This the best advice on playing live I’ve ever seen. It is also way harder to achieve what he’s talking about than it seems. Takes practice, relaxation, and self-awareness. I guess that’s mastery, in the end. Got there a just a few times, but they were worth it.
Thank you for this sage advice! For years, I'd played in bands, but now, as I am developing a solo act, this advice hits home. As I choose & wood shed on tunes to add to my set lists, this advice comes in even more profound, thanks again. I would also like to point out as a TH-cam creator that the only way I sub to newly found channels is by watching how the creator answers comments & questions from his audience. I read nearly every single comment on this video, and you answered nearly every single one, something I do on all my videos. I am impressed not only by your great advice but also by how you take the time to answer your listeners. You've gained a new sub today.
Much appreciated, thanks for subscribing! I make it a point to answer all comments (not trolls of course). Sometimes it takes a minute to get to them all as the channel is growing. I also appreciate your input here and I’m sure the other members do as well. :) cheers
I'll be back because I want to absorb this... currently sitting with my 1950 Harmony Monterey working on slide in open G... got subscribed. It's called being professional all you are saying. Actually.. listening... your nailing it. I was talking to a friend of mine recently (great drummer) and he said the same... we play for the audience. He and I have done that.. years past... he has stayed active.. I'm slowly getting back. Some local acoustic gigs probably and I want to be paid... not $100 that's for sure.
It’s just almost eerie how I can be thinking of a subject during a given week, then briefly mention the basic thought to my wife, and very soon, TH-cam brings in a video -like this one- with someone talking about the same thing I was thinking about and nails the exact points so well and with such wisdom! I do realize the devices we use are listening to us 24 seven but I’m still blown away by how well the videos match up with my thoughts (sometimes, I swear, it seems I haven’t even mentioned some of them to my wife… maybe I’ve been talking in my sleep!). Great job on this important subject!
Great video! I remember once playing in a restaurant (of sorts) and there was a guy intently eyeballing me. After the set was done he came over and I thought, "oh crap, he's going to remind me of that #4 I missed ion the 5th measure". Instead, he said, "can you tell me is that a banjo or a geetar?" I learned my lesson. But I always say, I even like bad music, and I think that comes exactly from where you noted - we all love what music does to us! Thanks.
"Stop Trying To Impress Them!!!" so on point! I would even go so far saying "Stop trying to entertain them" :D Try to find what you love and what you love to share...thats something im trying to find.
This was absolutely very,very true. As a fingerstyle player myself, i can testify to this. I once played a song that is very difficult (arrangement and techniques wise atleast in my level of skill and opinion) but it doesnt connect too much to my audience...and then i played a simple arranement fingerstyle song and a very popular one,to my surprise my friends was very impressed of it and they kind of sing the lyrics...when i came home, i think about it...then i realize that when i played the difficult one, i was very worried to make mistakes and it takes away the emotion of the song that i should have express while playing...and when i played a simple arrangment i was not that worried...it makes me play in the zone,as they wanna called it...then thats when the magic happens...thanks for thus vid my friend.
Thank you 🙏 I needed to hear this 😊I get very nervous when playing in front of people. I feel I going to mess up and that makes me not want to play in front of others. I tend to rush through instead of playing with feeling. You nail my my problem, So thanks again.
Brother, you hit that nail on the head...great advice! I've had listeners ignore a difficult instrumental and love a 3 chord vocal that was relaxing to play.
Found your video by accident! Great advice! I am a perfect example of trying to hard and trying to be perfect. Playing with emotion is something i struggle with. I'm going to empty my cup and refill it with relaxation and just enjoy the music.!!
Great video my friend. I use to worry about Impressing the audience , but then realized it's all about the music selection variety and deliverance. I use a looper some of the time but I find your absolutely right it's the simplest stuff that keeps them coming back for more. Happy gigging my musical brother.
I have very limited skill set but as you say, have always found that as long as I'm having a good time, the audience has a good time too. I have a friend who plays on the 'local circuit' and along with some others, is frustrated when another local musician who is significantly less technically capable - and actually often off beat! - but is more popular with the audiences. When I watch them I see my friend and others trying to out perform and impress each other but this more popular guy doesn't care what the others say, he cares about his audience. His performances are always more engaging.
This is such excellent advice, Frank. I've been playing/performing (solo acoustic and as a lead/rhythm guitarist in bands) for most of the last 50 years, and it didn't take me too long to realise that 99% of any audience doesn't give a shit when you absolutely nail the solo in Steely Dan's 'My Old School'. I'm constantly giving that message to students I teach, but you've absolutely covered all the bases here, so I'll refer them to this video in future. Hope you get some more subs as a result.🙂
I look at it a bit differently but it's the same idea. My motto is not to play a song until I own it. If I have to think about either the guitar or vocals it's not ready. I violate that rule far too often but it's a goal. Rick Beato did a video where he said one famous violin player made himself play a song 95 times without an error before he would perform it. Rick's number was 5. I am not sure what my number is.
Everything you said is so cool, and I'm not really trying to take away from anything you said, and I can't do any of those things but when I heard you say with ease, then fine...... as you well know, that's not fine. Ease is not the same as feeling... the greatest musicians always put forward the feelings, and there's no ease or disease about it
I have been playing at open mike nights and acoustic sessions in pubs and clubs just over a year. I am aan older guy and only started playing guitar about 8 years ago. I think its all about confidence and not setting your self up to fail. I choose easy to play songs that people know and love.with simple chords as if you are singing as well as playing thats quite a lot to do without worrying about doing complex guitar work. I find telling a little joke or anacdote before helps to get people on 'your side' before i start. Entertainmenting a group of people with just your voice and a wooden box with strings on is quite an art and not easy. I like songs the audience can join in with for example, what's wrong with jolene or dance the night away. Most people listening don't know hey have only a couple of easy cowboy chords and you can concentrate on putting some feeling into the singing. If you think about Glastonbury the crowd always love the big stars old favourites to sing along to. I still get nervous sometimes but the more you do little gigs the better you get.
What a great post! And this is the number one reason Taylor Swift is so successful (regardless of one’s opinion about her music). It’s the ability to connect with listener. Music is the gift of the musician, to the listener. To make their lives a little lighter. Thank you for such a thoughtful post! Spot on! 🎶❤️🌸
Excellent advice Frank. I'm a pretty basic strummer with a low growly singing voice so I always keep it simple (and sometimes simplify guitar parts) and choose songs that suit my way of playing and singing. As you say most people aren't musicians nor do they have sophisticated tastes so they won't notice if you change the difficult arthritis inducing jazzy chord for something simpler!
Great message Frank. It's one that transcends music. I do a lot of executive and leadership consulting and coaching and Audience Focused Communication is SO overlooked. Folks want to make the it (eg their presentation) about themselves and or what THEY want to talk about. The guiding principle I have to teach so many of them amounts to "who cares what you think?" It's about what your audience thinks / wants / needs to hear.
Thanks for commenting. To some extent we are all wired the same. Doesnt matter whether you are playing a guitar or selling an idea or product..its about the audience. cheers!
Thank You,Very well stated.I have always felt this way and I have tried to discuss this approach with my musician friends,they are the worst to discuss this with. So I asked prospective listeners and they described your statements.Again,Thanks.
What you call relaxation I call “flow state”. Where my mind, fingers, and voice are all in sync almost subconsciously. Trying to impress the audience always derails that. I only want to take the audience in account when choosing which songs to play.
thanks frank.. I not a good musician.. but I get it.. got to feel the music.. I have a professional musician brother who works extremely hard.. but when he said to me why does his wife like my music over his technical amazing playing.. I said because my music has emotion... and people want to feel the music...with all its unspoken requests...in it.. thanks for confirming the road I stumbled upon. gerry
Thanks Frank, I've had this problem for years, always feeling like I never play exactly right or scared to miss a note or something. I really needed this video, thank you again!
Love this! Our music is a gift to the audience. Do you think this is why the not so good musician who connects with their audience is loved more than than the great musician who doesn't connect with them? Hope that makes sense. I've just seen really bad Musicians get huge applause and shouts for encore and it always amazes me and makes me wonder why.
Your most important video yet, Frank. The best stage advice ever given. Just breathe. Be authen†ic. Just let the technical crap do it's job, and put your heart into the performance. It's why Colin Hay is one of the absolutely most engaging performers on the planet, right now - he's not afraid to be himself, smile, and best of all, own his own mistakes (both life AND in the playing) with joy and humanity.
Thanks
Thanks so much for the Super Thanks. Really appreciate it. Cheers!
Your job as a musician is not to impress people with your skills, your job is to make them fall in love with the song.
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well said!
Well put! I totally agree… thanks for sharing
You can also play Wonderwall by oasis and people in the room will start singing...is it fun to play tho? Not really...
@@Dgnine Yep, holding 2 fingers down for 3-4 minutes is such a pain in the ass...
You basically summed up the secret to all of life, thank you for sharing.
Thanks for the comment! Cheers:)
Spot on observation. Very incisive
I once heard from someone that we need to take ourselves 'out of the performance' music is something we share together we as musicians are just the vessel. Look at your performance as giving. It's a gift you want to share
no matter how basic the song is it's your gift to your audience.
Great way of looking at it! Cheers!
@@FrankPersico thanks for your brilliant chanel.
Well, that's a killer tip. I never saw it that way, but now that you said it, it makes 100% sense. Makes me think of when we are just jamming, seems like "music plays by itself" and we are just listeners... Those times everything sounds just awesome.
@@juanmoralesvideo yes a very similar mindset to that. bottom line is to be relaxed and let it flow. your audience will sense that lack of tension in you and respond better.
This is such good advice...Reminds me of the story Eric Bibb told about when he met Bob Dylan as a 8 year old boy and told Bob that he wanted to be a musician like him, and Bob simply replied...."That's great kid. Don't worry about all that fancy stuff. Keep it simple."
yes I heard that too..
think he was about 11..
lol.
cheers
If its good enough for Dylan it should be good enough for the rest of us:).. thanks for sharing. all the best to you in your playing..
This is the best advice I have ever received on playing music. Where were you when I was playing in all of those bands, doing it all wrong, for all of those years? I didn't give up on playing music, but I gave up playing for others, because I never could figure out exactly where I was going wrong. I thought I just didn't have what it takes. Now I understand and see things so much clearer. I've been wanting to get another band together, and after seeing this, I am so much less anxious about it. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
It’s my pleasure! Thanks for commenting and glad I could help!
It took me a while to realize this. As a lead player in a band, I was always more concerned with getting it right. Finally realized half way through a big gig (that wasn’t going so great in my opinion) that once I gave up trying to impress myself and just have a good time the crowd go way more into it. Greatest tip of all time right here.
thats the way to do it. we have to practice ditching the anxiety!
For sure! Glad you had that epiphany. Btw that last comment was from me but for some reason it had me logged in under my other TH-cam channel…
What you are saying here supports what I heard long ago...the 5 T's. Timing, Taste, Tone, Tuning and very lastly Technique. Get totally immersed in the song. Thanks!!
The five T’s should be Time, time, time, time & taste. 😅💚 (So 5xT = Groove)
Love it! The 5 T’s… good stuff!
I play with the simplest of chords , i lean on my singing with i really enjoy, and inter act with people in the street with great eye contact, smiles and banter.
The interaction is the most important part. Sounds like you got it down! Cheers!
Great points, Frank. If you're tense and worried about what you are doing, the audience can feel that as well. I remember going to a vineyard and there was a younger guy doing solo acoustic. His guitar was out of tune. His chording was very poor and his voice wasn't that great, but he was into it, and therefore the crowd felt that And responded in kind.
I like this video. Thanks for the advice! I haven't read the book you recommend, but I will.
I have one thing I would add, as someone who gets gigs as a solo acoustic guitar/singer guy - a fellow troubadour, and a little contradictory to the idea of "wait until you can play the song effortlessly." Practicing a song in my room is always going to be a different experience than playing in front of an audience. They are two related, but separate skills. I can play a complex song over and over until it's practically perfect in my room alone, but I'm still going to make mistakes on it when I introduce it to a live set. I've learned that's ok. I'm allowed to make mistakes even in front of people. I'm a human being and I my job isn't to be perfect. My job is to be entertaining.
Of course rehearse your material, do your homework, but also don't be afraid to take risks and make mistakes during a show. The first time you play a difficult song in front of an audience is not going to go as well as your best take rehearsing it 500 times. Not as good as your best 50 takes. Accept that reality. It also won't go as well as your future 100th time playing it live. But the only way to get to that 100th time is to start with your first time playing it.
its true what you say. for me the FIRST time i play a new song for an audience im always a bit anxious
I can't begin to tell you how true this is. I am not a guitar player but, I have played a few tunes using one. Like mentioned three chords and the audience was mesmerized. I perform on various Native American Flutes. Even when a mistake is made the audience would not know. I agree and wish to add that it is stage presence and delivery. Once an artist commands the stage, the artist will have positive feedback from an audience. It is about delivery and passion.
Thank you Sir for posting this.
👍✌🙏😎
Let this comment! I appreciate the insight
One of the best lessons on performance I've ever seen. Great topic and video.
thanks so much
On Heart's Dreamboat Annie Live DVD, Nancy flubs the opening to "Crazy on You," laughs, and starts again. It was literally that moment that made me learn to relax and enjoy myself on stage, because like you put it-- the show is about how you make them feel.
i was at a david gray concert where he forgot the lyrics to the entire 2nd verse and stopped the band. the audience loved it and i was SO able to relate to that moment.
Love that story!
Indeed Boss, No truer words were ever spoken..
One of the hard truths in playing live is, playing what impresses you, Will probably not impress the audience.
For all the reasons you just explained.
when you're trying to impress, the fun vanishes. As well as insulating yourself from the people there.
Just play music you can handle with ease. Be relaxed & enjoy and the people will respond.
We are there to entertain, Play relatable songs.
It is not a music recital. That's a whole different animal ..
(a recital I mean)
So true. Whenever I tried to learn shred was worst time in my guitar journey. I felt bad about myself. I sounded horrible. I appreciate these guitar god shredders out there. I’m just not one of them I had to accept that, move on, and continue my guitar learning journey growing my skills in other ways.
Great advice. Went out busking for the first time recently and just played for fun. Got a lot of smiles, some nods, and a few tips. Loving your videos!
Sounds like you are well on your way.
This message is sure to hit home with a great many of us (including me). It confirms what I have always observed, during 15 years in an acoustic duo alongside various rock bands, and now my solo acoustic life: Folks resonate most when emotions are conveyed, and that works best as a solo (or perhaps duo) performer. Less is more. And I don‘t show off my stuff as much as I immerse myself in the emotions of each song. It really does work…without even trying. 😊
All great points. Once you realize these things it makes the whole experience more enjoyable for everyone. Yourself included!!
Great advice. A gigantic light went on in my head. I listen to guitarists very critically for good technique, complexity and skill. But that's me. Most members of an audience don't play musical instruments and they don't even perceive complexity or come to a performance to be impressed with a guitarist’s skill. They just want to feel the music, or hear a message. Now I get it. I want people to feel something emotional when I sing and play. Forget about the one or two musicians in the audience who are listening for complexity and difficult technique, like I too often do. Those folks matter far less than the ones who just want to love a good song and feel it. Thanks so much.
It’s my pleasure.. hope this helps your playing be more inspired
Great advice! I just ordered the book on the basis of your great video! I recently did a solo acoustic gig for a friend´s birthday. I found that playing in front of 25 folks that you know is more difficult than playing in front of 300 that you do not know!! That said, my gigging life was as a bass player and vocalist in bands, not as a solo acoustic artist. It went ok, but I was really stressed. The next day I became ill with a virus and was really ill for over 2 weeks. It took 4 weeks to be able to sing again and 6 before I was back to normal. I blame the stressing out!! I am 68 years old and nowadays just play and record in my home studio. This last gig was done as a favor. I wish I had seen your video before my gig!! Playing as part of a band is so totally different!! Keep up the great videos. Best wishes from an old English rocker in Spain. Thanks for what you do!
very true. i've always said that too. its easier for me to play for MORE people than a small group of people I know!
Similar story. I'm 64 and have gigged as a bass player since the late 70s -- and recently just started performing solo as singer/guitarist. And the realization, after having so much trepidation about it, is *just relax and do it* --it isn't a big deal if you've prepared well and know the material.
Thanks so much for the comment! I can totally relate to it being easier at times to play for a larger group than a more Intimate group! Yeah dude anything we can do to reduce the stress and anxiety helps not only music but everything!! Easier said than done but that’s the goal lol!!
I agree, small crowds scare the crap out of me.
Anytime I am performing whether it’s singing or playing guitar. I want the audience to see the love and the passion I have for music.
It’s the most important thing! And they can tell for sure
@@FrankPersico This is why the 90s grunge bands were so popular. Much of it could be played by a beginner to intermediate player, but the passion came out in lyrics and body language.
@@Greymannn excellent point.
I played my first open mic night in years last night, and my wife told me she could see my face tense up when I played a note "imperfectly" or if I backed down from a note. From that night, the thing that people remembered the most was my song that had everything to do with personality and connection (it was a song called Pop Tart) and the other ones that were more technically different did not hit as hard. Glad to see your video when I did.
I used to notice weird shit that I did when I would watch my videos back. Like my eyes would dart around all over the room so concerned with what people were doing. It was insecurity. It’s good when you get that honest feedback. Helps us improve
Subscribed in 5 seconds, you are so right that the audience do not care what you play, found this out after 8 years.
Welcome to the channel! Happy to have you on board.
I play piano and that's awesome advice and insightful too. I see many advanced players throw everything they know into one tune they're performing. Improvising with every technique riff motif run every scale they know... pentatonic, blues, chromatic, diminished, mixolydian, mixo-blues etc. It sounds so busy and distorted to the point where sometimes the familiar tune their playing is almost unrecognizable.
To me that’s selfish playing. Again nothing “bad” but it’s playing to suit yourself and not necessarily what the audience can relate to. That being said I have been guilty of it lol! 😂
I’ve played with other guitarists that were technical wizards but were mechanical. On the other hand I’ve played with people that had the ability to play with emotion they were the ones that were the most enjoyable.
Two words “Keith Richards” lol
I believe that rhythm is The most understood, and most felt thing in music. Always have a very good sense of rhythm above all else.
Meanwhile it's the melody and the hook that matters...
Good point.
Hi Frank, what can I say!! You absolutely nailed it! Very strongly resonate with EVERYTHING you said. I speak from tried and tested experience. When alone, I know I am playing well with emotion but lo and behold, even an 'audience' of 1 albeit family or friend at home, Mr EGO gets in the way and I almost always mess up. Genuine advice but needs repetitive experiences. Profoundly grateful for affirming my reason for 'failure'
I appreciate the kind words. All the best to you
Spot on. 45 years as a semi pro. Took me a few decades to "get it". I've seen a few Kenny videos and he's spot on too. Keep it simple, go with your heart and all that knowledge and skills will percolate through without effort. Thinking is best left to the subconscious and let it flow.
Amen, it’s for them not us. When I was trying to incorporate stuff I was learning while leading worship it was such a distraction so I stopped. Then one day it just started coming out naturally. I was explaining to my wife that it’s like someone learning a word for the day, you force it in to conversations. But when it becomes a part of your vocabulary it’s perfect. I had to learn to be patient until they naturally became a part of my musical vocabulary.
I think that's really insigntful. And they say religion is a bad thing... the reality is, if your heart is pure, ie. you're in it to be of service not to make $ or get fame, religion makes you sharper
Great analogy about the word of the day! I’m an ESL person; I just love English so much that I will roll out obscure words all the time. They have exactly the flavor I’m looking for-but it also excludes a lot of people. And in a lot of rooms it comes off as showy. It’s much harder to be simple and direct, but if you can pull it off it’s so powerful!
I love the term musical vocabulary. Very well put and informative.. thank you for sharing
You have communicated your stress to the audience. My teacher just told me that he played a simple tune in a wine bar and everyone stopped
Thanks for sharinf
Great video. You’re right, aside from maybe another musician, the bulk of audiences don’t care how hard something is to play. Went to friend’s gig, he plays lead and can do all the fancy shred stuff, but like the biggest reaction he got from the audience was standing there doing a simple trill between songs as kind of a segue to the next song. The crowd went crazy and began to get loud…over a trill. Lol. Audiences just want to connect and hear the songs that make them dance, sing along and be happy. And if the rest of the band is having fun with them it makes for a great show. Thanks again Frank…loving each one of your videos. Cheers!
Thanks so much for watching and commenting!!!
You hit it right on the nail.! Thanks for the great insight.
Glad I could help!
I've been saying this for years. I noticed when I stopped putting pressure on myself for how I sound and just played and sang I improved the most.
Whatever you are doing it works! You and Ken been killin it !
@FrankPersico thanks brother
I was playing at a party, of all places, and when my friend arrived he saw me playing I had a big grin from playing and singing. He became a diehard fan from then on!
There ya go:):)
Good message. Audiences want sincerity on top of catchy song with a moving vocal melody. Simple.
Like you said, they want to feel something; they do _not_ listen to music to talk about your guitar solo.
Thanks for the comment! Cheers
I’ve played many, many live gigs, in bands and solo. This the best advice on playing live I’ve ever seen. It is also way harder to achieve what he’s talking about than it seems. Takes practice, relaxation, and self-awareness. I guess that’s mastery, in the end. Got there a just a few times, but they were worth it.
Thanks for commenting! Cheers
oh damnn this is such a precious advise you got a fan from the Philippines! cheers!
Thanks!! Welcome to the channel
Thanks for your experience, I enjoyed this one.
my pleasure!! thanks for commenting
Thank you for this sage advice! For years, I'd played in bands, but now, as I am developing a solo act, this advice hits home. As I choose & wood shed on tunes to add to my set lists, this advice comes in even more profound, thanks again.
I would also like to point out as a TH-cam creator that the only way I sub to newly found channels is by watching how the creator answers comments & questions from his audience. I read nearly every single comment on this video, and you answered nearly every single one, something I do on all my videos. I am impressed not only by your great advice but also by how you take the time to answer your listeners. You've gained a new sub today.
Much appreciated, thanks for subscribing! I make it a point to answer all comments (not trolls of course). Sometimes it takes a minute to get to them all as the channel is growing. I also appreciate your input here and I’m sure the other members do as well. :) cheers
Great advice!
Thanks so much
Another great video and thanks for the book recommendation. I'm looking forward to reading it.
You got it brotha! enjoy
Thanks! You’re going to love that book.
Great stuff! Thank you!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
I'll be back because I want to absorb this... currently sitting with my 1950 Harmony Monterey working on slide in open G... got subscribed.
It's called being professional all you are saying.
Actually.. listening... your nailing it. I was talking to a friend of mine recently (great drummer) and he said the same... we play for the audience. He and I have done that.. years past... he has stayed active.. I'm slowly getting back. Some local acoustic gigs probably and I want to be paid... not $100 that's for sure.
It’s good that you are getting back out there and taking gigs again!! Wish you the best
@@FrankPersico Watching your vid on songs, venues, pay, equipment etc... thank you for replies.
“The audience doesn’t come to see you, they come to see themselves”
That’s deep… love it
It’s just almost eerie how I can be thinking of a subject during a given week, then briefly mention the basic thought to my wife, and very soon, TH-cam brings in a video -like this one- with someone talking about the same thing I was thinking about and nails the exact points so well and with such wisdom! I do realize the devices we use are listening to us 24 seven but I’m still blown away by how well the videos match up with my thoughts (sometimes, I swear, it seems I haven’t even mentioned some of them to my wife… maybe I’ve been talking in my sleep!). Great job on this important subject!
I know the feeling! I feel like TH-cam knows me … same thing happens in my feed
Great advice. Relax and don’t react to mistakes. Just let it flow.
Thanks and I agree with you For sure..
Great video! I remember once playing in a restaurant (of sorts) and there was a guy intently eyeballing me. After the set was done he came over and I thought, "oh crap, he's going to remind me of that #4 I missed ion the 5th measure". Instead, he said, "can you tell me is that a banjo or a geetar?" I learned my lesson. But I always say, I even like bad music, and I think that comes exactly from where you noted - we all love what music does to us! Thanks.
Haha! That's great - I love that story!
"Stop Trying To Impress Them!!!" so on point!
I would even go so far saying "Stop trying to entertain them" :D
Try to find what you love and what you love to share...thats something im trying to find.
Thanks for the comment !!
So glad I found your channel!!! I'm just getting started and all of your videos are so helpful!!!
Love to hear this!! Welcome aboard
Some great points. Thank you.
My pleasure! Thanks for watching.
Great insight from a boots on the ground player, thanks for sharing this.
It’s my pleasure . Thanks for commenting. Cheers!!
Excellent words of wisdom. This is what I try to do.
Glad you agree.👍 cheers
This was absolutely very,very true. As a fingerstyle player myself, i can testify to this. I once played a song that is very difficult (arrangement and techniques wise atleast in my level of skill and opinion) but it doesnt connect too much to my audience...and then i played a simple arranement fingerstyle song and a very popular one,to my surprise my friends was very impressed of it and they kind of sing the lyrics...when i came home, i think about it...then i realize that when i played the difficult one, i was very worried to make mistakes and it takes away the emotion of the song that i should have express while playing...and when i played a simple arrangment i was not that worried...it makes me play in the zone,as they wanna called it...then thats when the magic happens...thanks for thus vid my friend.
I have experienced the same type of thing many many times. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you 🙏 I needed to hear this 😊I get very nervous when playing in front of people. I feel I going to mess up and that makes me not want to play in front of others. I tend to rush through instead of playing with feeling. You nail my my problem,
So thanks again.
My pleasure. Wish you the best
Brother, you hit that nail on the head...great advice! I've had listeners ignore a difficult instrumental and love a 3 chord vocal that was relaxing to play.
Totally agree! The simpler the song the better sometimes.
Great advice! Keep it simple. My favorite songs are all pretty simple and use no more than four chords.
I've found that to be true as well!
Found your video by accident! Great advice! I am a perfect example of trying to hard and trying to be perfect. Playing with emotion is something i struggle with. I'm going to empty my cup and refill it with relaxation and just enjoy the music.!!
Thanks so much. Glad you are getting some value from it. Thanks so much for commenting
Excellent Advice that apply to all aspect of life!!! Thanks Frank!!!
Thanks so much!! 🙏
Great video my friend. I use to worry about Impressing the audience , but then realized it's all about the music selection variety and deliverance. I use a looper some of the time but I find your absolutely right it's the simplest stuff that keeps them coming back for more. Happy gigging my musical brother.
Thanks for commenting. I wish you the best in your playing!
I’ve just finished the book and have done the meditation.
nice! how did you like the book?
I love this. Thanks for the reminder!
My pleasure!
Mr. Perisco, thanks for this excellent information. You are consistently turning out high value content and I appreciate it.
I appreciate that!
I have very limited skill set but as you say, have always found that as long as I'm having a good time, the audience has a good time too.
I have a friend who plays on the 'local circuit' and along with some others, is frustrated when another local musician who is significantly less technically capable - and actually often off beat! - but is more popular with the audiences. When I watch them I see my friend and others trying to out perform and impress each other but this more popular guy doesn't care what the others say, he cares about his audience. His performances are always more engaging.
For sure. It’s about the human connection. The music is just a means to getting us there
This is such excellent advice, Frank. I've been playing/performing (solo acoustic and as a lead/rhythm guitarist in bands) for most of the last 50 years, and it didn't take me too long to realise that 99% of any audience doesn't give a shit when you absolutely nail the solo in Steely Dan's 'My Old School'. I'm constantly giving that message to students I teach, but you've absolutely covered all the bases here, so I'll refer them to this video in future. Hope you get some more subs as a result.🙂
Wow I appreciate that! Thanks for being part of the community!
I look at it a bit differently but it's the same idea. My motto is not to play a song until I own it. If I have to think about either the guitar or vocals it's not ready. I violate that rule far too often but it's a goal. Rick Beato did a video where he said one famous violin player made himself play a song 95 times without an error before he would perform it. Rick's number was 5. I am not sure what my number is.
Good insight. I appreciate your perspective in this. Ideally yes it is deff better to know the material cold!
@@FrankPersico One key to your success is your work ethic - answering comments in a timely manor is a full time job. No need to respond.
@@neugentcycling938 much appreciated! i try to answer as best I can:)
Incredibly helpful Frank
Thank you so much
You are most welcome!
Everything you said is so cool, and I'm not really trying to take away from anything you said, and I can't do any of those things but when I heard you say with ease, then fine...... as you well know, that's not fine. Ease is not the same as feeling... the greatest musicians always put forward the feelings, and there's no ease or disease about it
👍👍
Can’t say enough how TRUE this is. Good luck to anyone who dismisses this message.
Thanks for the comment!!
Great advice. Just go out there and have fun.
Absolutely the only way to do it:):)
Yes, sounds right! Good rhythm seems really important.
Without a doubt: that right hand is very important!
awesome, best video i've seen, great advise
👍🤘
Great video, great advice, Thanks. ✌️
Glad it was helpful!
The most valuable advice I have ever heard. Thanks!!
My pleasure. Cheers!!
My pleasure .. cheers!
I totally agree. Wonderful confirmation. ~ God Bless.
Much appreciated….
I read a comment in a guitar mag which helped me. “Seek to express not impress.”
I like that one ☝️
I have been playing at open mike nights and acoustic sessions in pubs and clubs just over a year.
I am aan older guy and only started playing guitar about 8 years ago.
I think its all about confidence and not setting your self up to fail.
I choose easy to play songs that people know and love.with simple chords as if you are singing as well as playing thats quite a lot to do without worrying about doing complex guitar work.
I find telling a little joke or anacdote before helps to get people on 'your side' before i start.
Entertainmenting a group of people with just your voice and a wooden box with strings on is quite an art and not easy.
I like songs the audience can join in with for example, what's wrong with jolene or dance the night away. Most people listening don't know hey have only a couple of easy cowboy chords and you can concentrate on putting some feeling into the singing.
If you think about Glastonbury the crowd always love the big stars old favourites to sing along to.
I still get nervous sometimes but the more you do little gigs the better you get.
Great insight… thanks for sharing. I think it will help inspire some in the community who are hesitant to get started ..
This is really helpful. I am thinking how this kind of applies to our doing artwork as well as our music. Thanks!
Absolutely! It’s all about connecting with your audience.
Message received loud and clear. Simple, powerful and timely. Thank you.
You're welcome!
Wonderful words Frank
much appreciated!
What a great post! And this is the number one reason Taylor Swift is so successful (regardless of one’s opinion about her music). It’s the ability to connect with listener. Music is the gift of the musician, to the listener. To make their lives a little lighter. Thank you for such a thoughtful post! Spot on! 🎶❤️🌸
Totally! She knows who her audience is and how to speak to them. Thanks for the comment!
Excellent advice Frank. I'm a pretty basic strummer with a low growly singing voice so I always keep it simple (and sometimes simplify guitar parts) and choose songs that suit my way of playing and singing. As you say most people aren't musicians nor do they have sophisticated tastes so they won't notice if you change the difficult arthritis inducing jazzy chord for something simpler!
Ain’t nothing wrong with playing the music that naturally falls within your tastes/ability/skillset. Thanks for commenting
Your video connected with me, thank you!
I’m glad you enjoyed it!
Great message Frank. It's one that transcends music. I do a lot of executive and leadership consulting and coaching and Audience Focused Communication is SO overlooked. Folks want to make the it (eg their presentation) about themselves and or what THEY want to talk about. The guiding principle I have to teach so many of them amounts to "who cares what you think?" It's about what your audience thinks / wants / needs to hear.
Thanks for commenting. To some extent we are all wired the same. Doesnt matter whether you are playing a guitar or selling an idea or product..its about the audience. cheers!
I just realized my comment back to you was from my other TH-cam login. Don’t know how that happened lol. Thanks for the comment:):)
Thanks, this is probably the most useful video on performing live I have ever seen!
Wow thanks so much
lot's of wisdom here! thanks for sharing
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for this valuable lesson!
I needed to hear this.
My pleasure!
Thank You,Very well stated.I have always felt this way and I have tried to discuss this approach with my musician friends,they are the worst to discuss this with. So I asked prospective listeners and they described your statements.Again,Thanks.
It’s my pleasure… glad you’re finding this advice useful
Your videos are excellent. I’ve been singing professionally for 26 years. Thanks.
Much appreciated. All the best to you
😂this is so true! Thanks for the reminder. Much appreciated
Glad to help. Have fun out there!
Good points
Thanks so much. Cheers!
What you call relaxation I call “flow state”. Where my mind, fingers, and voice are all in sync almost subconsciously. Trying to impress the audience always derails that. I only want to take the audience in account when choosing which songs to play.
Ooooh I like that. “Flow state”…
True words. I would like to add that it's important to have fun and enjoy the experience. I appreciate your content, Frank. Thank you. 😀
Thanks for commenting and for the kind words. It’s my pleasure :)
This applies to all things in life. Good video.
Thanks so much.
thanks
frank..
I not a good musician..
but I get it..
got to feel the music..
I have a professional musician brother who works extremely hard..
but when he said to me why does his wife like my music over his technical amazing playing..
I said because my music has emotion...
and people want to feel the music...with all its unspoken
requests...in it..
thanks for confirming the road I stumbled upon.
gerry
My pleasure/. Thanks for sharing your perspective on this. I can relate
Thanks Frank, I've had this problem for years, always feeling like I never play exactly right or scared to miss a note or something. I really needed this video, thank you again!
My pleasure
I've found in the past sometimes Less is more, but above all that ,have fun playing.
for sure!!
Absolutely!!👍
Sound Advice. Thank you!
My pleasure
Love this! Our music is a gift to the audience.
Do you think this is why the not so good musician who connects with their audience is loved more than than the great musician who doesn't connect with them? Hope that makes sense. I've just seen really bad Musicians get huge applause and shouts for encore and it always amazes me and makes me wonder why.
I went to a Julian Bream concert. It wasn't that exciting. Peter Paul & Mary were more fun. One thing they did, they told jokes between songs.
I think the great musician is THE ONE who can use music to connect to the audience.
Thanks. This is the video I needed today.
I’m glad it helped!
I really needed to hear this today. Thank you!
My pleasure!
Your most important video yet, Frank. The best stage advice ever given. Just breathe. Be authen†ic. Just let the technical crap do it's job, and put your heart into the performance. It's why Colin Hay is one of the absolutely most engaging performers on the planet, right now - he's not afraid to be himself, smile, and best of all, own his own mistakes (both life AND in the playing) with joy and humanity.
Awww thanks so much. Makes me happy to hear positive confirmation from the community. Cheers!