Ahoy my friends! Today I will be doing an evaluation on Vincent Valentine! We'll be taking a look at his 3 Limit Breaks, which are super interesting, though 2 take quite awhile to charge. I'll be looking at each of his different weapons as well. In the video I end up giving Vincent an A- overall, but after some more thought I think I would have to downgrade Vincent to a B+. There's nothing in his weapon kit that is absolutely standout except for his new weapon and the Earth Imperil weapon unfortunately, and with his lack of other Costumes at the moment he is very niche. However, in that niche corner, he ABSOLUTELY excels in Earth damage while imperiling. Anyways, that is my revised overview of Vincent! Not far off from the video, but just wanted to share this with you guys. In the video I rate all of his individual weapons and then do a bunch of ticket pulls at the end of the video! Hope you all enjoy it! Cheers! And as always, Thank you for your support 🙏🏽🍻💯
Quicksilver is the only weapon with 46 ATK and 52 Boost Limit Break Pot. I think this could be a great sub-weapon if were' able to increase the charge speed of his limit breaks in a meaningful way. I also decided that I need to invest a little bit in him after all, since Vincent is mandatory in some content. As always, thanks for the informative & entertaining video. :)
Chaos rampage is bonkers, which makes the other character limit breaks mundane. Also just to say I'm happy to get a magic ice 52 point and a physical wind 52 point sub weapon in vincents weapon pool. I will definitely wishlist them.
What's up Ryder. I feel that applibot is at the point that they either need to drop 4-5 costumes on a banner. Or drop two banners at a time. We have too many characters at this point. Or update the costume exchange at the least.
Weapon olso too many, but normal draw & wishlist so hard to get Gold. like this time tifa new fire banner , 60 draw only get 1 grantee and 1 out of wishlist weapon. behind still many weapon we need. Thats even free draw for 28 days , olso some time 1 week cant get a gold
The big issue with white dog is it's limited. If you don't get that weapon up to ob10 now you can only do it via universal weapon parts. I'm not sure it's good enough especially if the enemy resists it.
Just my thoughts on Vincent's guns Gilded edge - useful for limit break spamming as Vincent has super high LB cost. Helpful for unlocking his limit break too. To maximize White dog, we need to debuff the enemy. Although Chiron is good for earth imperil but if enemies are not weak to earth then the S1976C would be great as it is an AoE defaith and debrave. TO3 Model N is great for breaking diamond sigil for now (Vincent don't have any diamond breaking sigil weapon) for those who want to rush the golden tower facing off Bahamut at floor 30 with diamond sigil break. At 2 ATB cost, we can break 3 diamonds vs 2 on Ruin with 6 ATB. Lucia with Barn Swallow is the only deployable character now in that tower with diamond sigil break. For those rushing the golden tower, Short barrel and TO3 Model N are great weapons for wishlist. Cath Palug is a good wishlist weapon if floor 25 is a problem. White dog is good vs floor 20 but you can do it without it. Short barrel makes short work of most wind weakness enemies on the tower.
I just finished the Tower and it was a lot easier than I thought. Vincent literally did nothing but P/Matt down the entire tower and Lucia and Aerith did all the damage. I also just made him hold the party wide buff weapons when needed I only have Vincent at level 69 right now as well.
@@BodhiJMSRyder Yea he really wasn't that tough. I used Physical build with Aerith and Lucia since the 200% crit damage stage bonus is MASSIVE. Aerith with her Striking Staff and Kamura Wand. Lucia with whatever weapon has Striking Quintet. Didn't even get his Sigil phase.
I think Vincent is top tier just for his costume, he's so raaad, but the question I have is, does Reprieve prevents the LB gauge to be depleted upon taking lethal damage ?
I'm curious about an R. Ability that's listed in the filters, is the R. Ability called "ATB Boost" a new one? I don't remember seeing that before and I have don't have any weapons with it yet. if it's basically a permanent haste then that sounds pretty insane🤔 I imagine Vincents LB boosting weapons would theoretically increase even faster
@@BodhiJMSRyder Thanks again for the reply, I genuinely forgot about First strike Materia existing lol, oops. Been a while since I played Remake myself and been holding out for Rebirth on PC, I should probably jog my memories again with a quick replay of Remake 😅 Although if it's just First Strike that sounds like it's only good for situational fights, I might just wishlist Cait Siths' Flower Vase and experiment with his Haste ability. Cheers!
Honestly I think you are underrating Cath Palug. The MATK+Ice Potency are worth for Magic Ice builds on other players such as Ice Sepharoth or Ice Aerith.
Yeah it is but I’m still not wishlisting it. If I get it naturally sure, but this would purely be a WL item for a sub weapon. Most people are slotting WL for utility. Aerith’s Snowflake is still really good.
Gilded Age may be the sleeper hit. The limit break charge rate is way higher compared to the other weapons. Yeah, it doesn't do damage on top of the charge, but who cares when you're getting to a 6k% smack anyway.
If we’re doing 940% damage with earth gun and it charges 5%. And you use it let’s say 10X to charge the limit that is 9400% damage + 6000 in 10 turns. If the other one charged in 5 turns it’s still 12,000% in 10 turns. It’s not better. If it was 15% charge maybe.
@@BodhiJMSRyder that is valid. There's a lot to assume with the numbers, such as actually getting OB10 on a limited weapon vs getting OB10 over time on a non-limited weapon. I'd sure hope the limited weapon overall calcs out to be better, lol. My overall point is that limit break charge as a weapon/ability effect is new, so it's tough to rate a weapon that specializes in that, and come out the gate saying it's trash/B Tier. So far it's one of the few dupes I've pulled for Vincent's weapons, so I may give it a test run to see how I like it vs. his other non-limited weapons.
@antpal2001 I think B tier is far from trash brudda if they go all the way to D or F haha. I just said in comparison to his other weapons it didn’t stand out as much.
Looks to me like Vincent's only good standard banner weapon is the earth imperil one. Which means if you want to use Vincent in game content right away, you need to pull on his limited banner. Which I guess was Applibot's plan but too bad they made all his other weapons suck!
They don’t suck but they also aren’t anything to write home about. Soloing Bahamut doesn’t mean anything more than just brag rights. He doesn’t bring anything but earth and imperil that other characters can’t do better more or less
@BodhiJMSRyder yeah but with such low amount of readily available content, what else are ya gonna do when you have max ob10 weapons tho . I think they did vincent dirtiest bcus all he does is stand there with a gun , aim and shoot some magic lasers . Maybe he'll get some cool melee moves later , hopefully
Indeed on paper is amazing but practically with 4000 charge speed - unless its some very prolonged battle (guild raids?) wont see much use, sadly unless he gets some costume that boosts Limit speed gain.
they couldn't have released the guild boss together with this update? lit have nothing to do if you pull for vincent's weapon . at most a few hours if you plan to read story . then it's just back to waiting for stamina to waste . since all the outcry , they've made exp grinding super ridiculously easy . this pacing is for less than casual players
Bro, I got his costume, it's very good, from my perspective, the costume offers an absurd damage reduction since I used it at level 40 against a level 60 enemy, the costume, in my opinion, is worth it, but unfortunately,I had bad luck with weapons I only have 2 five stars 😅😅
My first day i did 3 pulls and they were horrible. I took a day off and pulled again today and my luck turned around! Sometimes just need to let it go for the day i think
I think his kit is not so great. Relying on low HP for big damage or added effects is not something we really want to be risking. I can see some potential to it though. If you're getting close to KO'ing a boss and can time everything, you can keep him relatively low hp and then pop his LB and fire a couple attacks. I do think a majority of his weapons are great for sub weapons though!
I'm glad Vincent's kit wasn't as disappointing as I was expecting. The best way to play Vincent is probably to build his defences up by a lot, having your other 2 characters bring guild weapons (PDEF/MDEF UP ALL) so he can stay at low(or high) HP more consistently
I think the most important thing we need to know is if Vincent's ATB is reset when he triggers reprieve or not. If it doesn't, in things like bahamut EX that effectively have a dps check you can stack atb and his lb3 until the wipe happens, then use his lb3 and the 2atb gun to cheese the dps check Think of him like Blue Mage in ff14, where you can one shot a boss and ignore a wipe mechanic
Too early to tell, as of right now hes a hardpass for me, im a technical player so I dont see his kit that essential yet. Its a good thing. Anniversary is coming
yeah.... a character with a list of troll weapons except for the limit break one. Funfact vincent is so troll, he doesnt even have other limit break weapons nor can you wishlist the summer event regular weapons on his LB banner so you will waste all your gems for a mediocre earth arcanum. 99% dissapointing character release, 150% release banner hate. Seriously... this banner is the worst the company could have done. I can tell you what they mean with this: "give me money" PS: you want his earth imperil and the limit break if you want to ruin your account ;) ehh i meant if you want to waste 150k+ gems for a earth dps, ehh i meant a working vincent. PS2: im not sure if you saw it, but i wanted the other limit break first and funny enough you cannot do it.. it will lock you from choosing another one for 24hours and the 2nd lb can only be learned if you have used the other locked limit break 5 times. this release is a massive joke.
Forget the this vincent limit banner bruh. (It's only made for whales for sure) I mean, There still 10 characters to enjoy lol. Why focus on this 1 vincent right now? The better content always in the future (thats the absolute law in applibot/square games). Aniversary is close. Surely we will meet better (and F2P friendly) banner. And Earth is not the only element in the game, right? Be wise my friends
Yeah hundred percent man. Great advice, though for me, no Earth Arcanum plus Vincent is a fave char for me. I think i will pull and just pray that for the 1 year anni they will allow us to WL the old LB draw weapons.
Applybot is a shame in the first place, second I like how Vincent mechanics works with the low health more dmg thing since the reprieve new skill and we all know that it combos with the broken 3rd lb, that’s why I don’t know why they gave us earth arcanum instead playing more with lb dmg or lb boost bar or haste or something different… reprieve refined is a cool one but paired with earth is just useless, I’m not gonna play him like a normal fucking char if he is meant to be unique with the lb shit like cait with crit, totally bs banner for my pov and doesn’t worth a single pull, fuck them and their bs lol
Ahoy my friends! Today I will be doing an evaluation on Vincent Valentine! We'll be taking a look at his 3 Limit Breaks, which are super interesting, though 2 take quite awhile to charge. I'll be looking at each of his different weapons as well. In the video I end up giving Vincent an A- overall, but after some more thought I think I would have to downgrade Vincent to a B+. There's nothing in his weapon kit that is absolutely standout except for his new weapon and the Earth Imperil weapon unfortunately, and with his lack of other Costumes at the moment he is very niche. However, in that niche corner, he ABSOLUTELY excels in Earth damage while imperiling.
Anyways, that is my revised overview of Vincent! Not far off from the video, but just wanted to share this with you guys. In the video I rate all of his individual weapons and then do a bunch of ticket pulls at the end of the video!
Hope you all enjoy it!
Cheers!
And as always,
Thank you for your support 🙏🏽🍻💯
Quicksilver is the only weapon with 46 ATK and 52 Boost Limit Break Pot.
I think this could be a great sub-weapon if were' able to increase the charge speed of his limit breaks in a meaningful way.
I also decided that I need to invest a little bit in him after all,
since Vincent is mandatory in some content.
As always, thanks for the informative & entertaining video. :)
@Seraphina_FF14 anytime :)
Chaos rampage is bonkers, which makes the other character limit breaks mundane.
Also just to say I'm happy to get a magic ice 52 point and a physical wind 52 point sub weapon in vincents weapon pool.
I will definitely wishlist them.
Nice :)
Vincents release makes me want to pull for Tifa's fire costume even more now.
Then do it! Tifa for the win
Facts I'm ob6 and did two more summons. I max tifa everything anyway
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What's up Ryder. I feel that applibot is at the point that they either need to drop 4-5 costumes on a banner. Or drop two banners at a time. We have too many characters at this point. Or update the costume exchange at the least.
Weapon olso too many, but normal draw & wishlist so hard to get Gold. like this time tifa new fire banner , 60 draw only get 1 grantee and 1 out of wishlist weapon. behind still many weapon we need. Thats even free draw for 28 days , olso some time 1 week cant get a gold
Agreed
Yeah they are slowly digging themselves a hole
Yo Ryder you will have better luck on the limit banner! Here’s to good stamp luck buddy!
Thank you brother!!
The big issue with white dog is it's limited. If you don't get that weapon up to ob10 now you can only do it via universal weapon parts. I'm not sure it's good enough especially if the enemy resists it.
Yeah it’s such a shame tbh
U can wishlist it in september
A way to get more weapon parts each week would be nice
@@bellenous There is a mission we get weapon parts twice a week for 5 selected weapons, minus limited banner weapons.
@wokeaf1337 yeah I know but I would prefer a few extra character weapon parts
The charge speed is not really an issue for Vincent, those 4000 limit breaks charge as fast as Ifrit or Shiva but I guess the below
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Just my thoughts on Vincent's guns
Gilded edge - useful for limit break spamming as Vincent has super high LB cost. Helpful for unlocking his limit break too.
To maximize White dog, we need to debuff the enemy. Although Chiron is good for earth imperil but if enemies are not weak to earth then the S1976C would be great as it is an AoE defaith and debrave.
TO3 Model N is great for breaking diamond sigil for now (Vincent don't have any diamond breaking sigil weapon) for those who want to rush the golden tower facing off Bahamut at floor 30 with diamond sigil break. At 2 ATB cost, we can break 3 diamonds vs 2 on Ruin with 6 ATB. Lucia with Barn Swallow is the only deployable character now in that tower with diamond sigil break.
For those rushing the golden tower, Short barrel and TO3 Model N are great weapons for wishlist. Cath Palug is a good wishlist weapon if floor 25 is a problem. White dog is good vs floor 20 but you can do it without it. Short barrel makes short work of most wind weakness enemies on the tower.
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I just finished the Tower and it was a lot easier than I thought. Vincent literally did nothing but P/Matt down the entire tower and Lucia and Aerith did all the damage. I also just made him hold the party wide buff weapons when needed
I only have Vincent at level 69 right now as well.
@wiseguise5960 nice! That’s good to know. Even Baha super easy huh?
@@BodhiJMSRyder Yea he really wasn't that tough. I used Physical build with Aerith and Lucia since the 200% crit damage stage bonus is MASSIVE.
Aerith with her Striking Staff and Kamura Wand. Lucia with whatever weapon has Striking Quintet.
Didn't even get his Sigil phase.
Resist could also mean the battle event where you can add resistance for more bonus.
Oh interesting. But what they give us a weapon that only works in one game type? For some reason i dont think so
I think Vincent is top tier just for his costume, he's so raaad, but the question I have is, does Reprieve prevents the LB gauge to be depleted upon taking lethal damage ?
Makes you wonder what will cid have
Ohhhh shit! Good question bro!!
For real haha
I'm curious about an R. Ability that's listed in the filters, is the R. Ability called "ATB Boost" a new one?
I don't remember seeing that before and I have don't have any weapons with it yet.
if it's basically a permanent haste then that sounds pretty insane🤔 I imagine Vincents LB boosting weapons would theoretically increase even faster
It increases the starting ATB in a battle
Kind of like First Strike Materia
@@BodhiJMSRyder Thanks again for the reply, I genuinely forgot about First strike Materia existing lol, oops.
Been a while since I played Remake myself and been holding out for Rebirth on PC, I should probably jog my memories again with a quick replay of Remake 😅
Although if it's just First Strike that sounds like it's only good for situational fights, I might just wishlist Cait Siths' Flower Vase and experiment with his Haste ability. Cheers!
@nocturnalscotsman np mate! Also Flower Vase is an excellent magic sub weapon!
Honestly I think you are underrating Cath Palug. The MATK+Ice Potency are worth for Magic Ice builds on other players such as Ice Sepharoth or Ice Aerith.
Yeah it is but I’m still not wishlisting it. If I get it naturally sure, but this would purely be a WL item for a sub weapon. Most people are slotting WL for utility. Aerith’s Snowflake is still really good.
I used like 700 brown and 139 tier 2 and 19 gold. Got like 5 or less of him. It’s just to many.
Damn congrats dude!
Gilded Age may be the sleeper hit. The limit break charge rate is way higher compared to the other weapons. Yeah, it doesn't do damage on top of the charge, but who cares when you're getting to a 6k% smack anyway.
If we’re doing 940% damage with earth gun and it charges 5%. And you use it let’s say 10X to charge the limit that is 9400% damage + 6000 in 10 turns.
If the other one charged in 5 turns it’s still 12,000% in 10 turns.
It’s not better. If it was 15% charge maybe.
@@BodhiJMSRyder that is valid. There's a lot to assume with the numbers, such as actually getting OB10 on a limited weapon vs getting OB10 over time on a non-limited weapon. I'd sure hope the limited weapon overall calcs out to be better, lol.
My overall point is that limit break charge as a weapon/ability effect is new, so it's tough to rate a weapon that specializes in that, and come out the gate saying it's trash/B Tier. So far it's one of the few dupes I've pulled for Vincent's weapons, so I may give it a test run to see how I like it vs. his other non-limited weapons.
@antpal2001 I think B tier is far from trash brudda if they go all the way to D or F haha. I just said in comparison to his other weapons it didn’t stand out as much.
Looks to me like Vincent's only good standard banner weapon is the earth imperil one. Which means if you want to use Vincent in game content right away, you need to pull on his limited banner. Which I guess was Applibot's plan but too bad they made all his other weapons suck!
they dont suck , i think with his sawed-off GS and s1976c , he's prob the only one who can solo bahamut ex2 atm
They don’t suck but they also aren’t anything to write home about. Soloing Bahamut doesn’t mean anything more than just brag rights. He doesn’t bring anything but earth and imperil that other characters can’t do better more or less
@BodhiJMSRyder yeah but with such low amount of readily available content, what else are ya gonna do when you have max ob10 weapons tho . I think they did vincent dirtiest bcus all he does is stand there with a gun , aim and shoot some magic lasers . Maybe he'll get some cool melee moves later , hopefully
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We now have 152 weapons in the game. I had to count since I was curious.
Wow that's a freakin ton man. Pool is gonna be so much in another year.
You missed that beast flare ignores patk and matk down resist. Meaning they get debuffed regardless.
Indeed on paper is amazing but practically with 4000 charge speed - unless its some very prolonged battle (guild raids?) wont see much use, sadly unless he gets some costume that boosts Limit speed gain.
@@damiandelchev9131 all his weapons boost limit speed gain
@@Hannibalhd1 Almost all, he has one trash weapon that does ice on all that doesnt charge limit.
I did talk about that haha
Yep
they couldn't have released the guild boss together with this update? lit have nothing to do if you pull for vincent's weapon . at most a few hours if you plan to read story . then it's just back to waiting for stamina to waste . since all the outcry , they've made exp grinding super ridiculously easy . this pacing is for less than casual players
Yeah I hear ya here
Bro, I got his costume, it's very good, from my perspective, the costume offers an absurd damage reduction since I used it at level 40 against a level 60 enemy, the costume, in my opinion, is worth it, but unfortunately,I had bad luck with weapons I only have 2 five stars 😅😅
Hopefully we can WL for Anni!!!
I'm pulling for his costume but man my luck has been GARBAGE! 4 pulls so far each 1x stamp and nothing to note for weapons....
My first day i did 3 pulls and they were horrible. I took a day off and pulled again today and my luck turned around! Sometimes just need to let it go for the day i think
@@BodhiJMSRyder I'm going to save crystals basically until the banner has 1 day left and do some more pulls. Hopefully it will turn around!
Got 4 5 star vinvent weapons in one vincent only pull :)
Oh wow!! Congrats!
I think his kit is not so great. Relying on low HP for big damage or added effects is not something we really want to be risking. I can see some potential to it though. If you're getting close to KO'ing a boss and can time everything, you can keep him relatively low hp and then pop his LB and fire a couple attacks.
I do think a majority of his weapons are great for sub weapons though!
I lowered my evaluation of him in the description after further thought actually
I'm glad Vincent's kit wasn't as disappointing as I was expecting. The best way to play Vincent is probably to build his defences up by a lot, having your other 2 characters bring guild weapons (PDEF/MDEF UP ALL) so he can stay at low(or high) HP more consistently
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I think the most important thing we need to know is if Vincent's ATB is reset when he triggers reprieve or not.
If it doesn't, in things like bahamut EX that effectively have a dps check you can stack atb and his lb3 until the wipe happens, then use his lb3 and the 2atb gun to cheese the dps check
Think of him like Blue Mage in ff14, where you can one shot a boss and ignore a wipe mechanic
Interesting! Has anyone confirmed if his LB goes down with Reprieve?
Do you have a guild we could join?
Wanting to avoid joining a super random guild that's inconsistent =/
Would have to come join our Discord and then post in the recruitment hall channel. But you can definitely get picked up in there.
I was expecting more from Vicent weapons. At least now is easier to safe crystals for anniversary 😂😂
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Thank you, same too
Too early to tell, as of right now hes a hardpass for me, im a technical player so I dont see his kit that essential yet. Its a good thing. Anniversary is coming
Agreed
no wonder White dog is limited. Its too good.
Haha FR
You are not out of Vincent pulls you can get some more from the golden tower best of luck on your pulls
Oh really? Thank you bro!!! Really appreciate this!
yeah.... a character with a list of troll weapons except for the limit break one. Funfact vincent is so troll, he doesnt even have other limit break weapons nor can you wishlist the summer event regular weapons on his LB banner so you will waste all your gems for a mediocre earth arcanum. 99% dissapointing character release, 150% release banner hate. Seriously... this banner is the worst the company could have done.
I can tell you what they mean with this: "give me money"
PS: you want his earth imperil and the limit break if you want to ruin your account ;) ehh i meant if you want to waste 150k+ gems for a earth dps, ehh i meant a working vincent.
PS2: im not sure if you saw it, but i wanted the other limit break first and funny enough you cannot do it.. it will lock you from choosing another one for 24hours and the 2nd lb can only be learned if you have used the other locked limit break 5 times. this release is a massive joke.
Gd didn’t know that about LB locks and yeah I’m so disappointed with their greed
Forget the this vincent limit banner bruh. (It's only made for whales for sure) I mean, There still 10 characters to enjoy lol. Why focus on this 1 vincent right now? The better content always in the future (thats the absolute law in applibot/square games). Aniversary is close. Surely we will meet better (and F2P friendly) banner. And Earth is not the only element in the game, right? Be wise my friends
Yeah hundred percent man. Great advice, though for me, no Earth Arcanum plus Vincent is a fave char for me. I think i will pull and just pray that for the 1 year anni they will allow us to WL the old LB draw weapons.
Lol I pulled over 100 and got probably 2 Vincent weapons
Oh damn bro I’m same as you. Used like 250 tickets 50 silver and 60 Vincent tix for 3 weps
I say you get the first 12 stamp post!
Yosha!!!
Vincent annoyingly going to be on the roster by the looks of it, not pulling though
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Applybot is a shame in the first place, second I like how Vincent mechanics works with the low health more dmg thing since the reprieve new skill and we all know that it combos with the broken 3rd lb, that’s why I don’t know why they gave us earth arcanum instead playing more with lb dmg or lb boost bar or haste or something different… reprieve refined is a cool one but paired with earth is just useless, I’m not gonna play him like a normal fucking char if he is meant to be unique with the lb shit like cait with crit, totally bs banner for my pov and doesn’t worth a single pull, fuck them and their bs lol
Yeah I’m so upset with them atm dude, freaking GreediBot
All vincent tickets got me 1 gold weapon 🙄
Aw dang :/ sorry to hear that