Great to see another huge John T. Kenney fan! One of his many great qualities to me were his human characters, they really brought the world to life with things like smoking, lifting boxes and digging holes. Great seeing Hodges so high, it's a shame he couldn't have done more because just imagine how insane it'd be if he got to really shine.
My favourite illustrator is a tie between and Kenny and Edwards. Their illustrations look absolutely amazing and for some reason look something out of stained glass window in terms of colours. I wished Hodges was kept on because his illustrations look amazing and consistent. Marshal is so underrated it's shocking. Her illustrations look very nice.
I'm glad you included Edgar Hodges. He's highly underrated, he's definitely the best illustrator out there, and it's a shame Chris Awdry didn't get him to illustrate his books. They would've been much better than the Spong illustrations. I'm personally not a fan of Loraine Marshall's illustrations. I'd say her art shines the best with A Scarf for Percy, as it was almost all new illustrations due to it being more closely followed to the TVS episode, and not the original Percy and the Trousers. There's almost no confliction of style, and looks fairly nice. I do like some changes she made to some illustrations, too, like giving the engine that overturned on the points in Gordon goes Foreign a face. I do have to say, however, that there are inconsistencies with proportions at moments, and at the times where her original illustrations combined with her re-illustrations of the originals is just very conflicting with the art style. My personal ratings for all of them: Hodges: 11/10 Edwards: 10/10 Kenney: 9/10 Payne: 7.5/10 Marshall: 5.5 to 7.5/10 (Trucks! at the low end, A Scarf for Percy at the high end) Dalby: 6.5/10 Spong: 4 to 7/10 (Really Useful Engines at the low end, Thomas and Victoria at the high end) Middleton: 2/10
Studying other art styles to see what I like is one of my favorite things to do, so this video is always nice to come back to. I like your editing and your commentary. My notes for my favorites are: Clive- I LOVE his colors. They’re both so bright and livley. The trains look wonderful too, though I find it distracting how similar the faces can get. It’s a bit unnerving. I do like the expressions a lot though! Payne- I like the colors and the faces a lot. The smoke looks so good I can taste it 😋 The specific illustrations you showed had a warm looking tone I really liked too! Marshall- Her colors too are vibrant as you said, and that one at 6:01 has my whole heart! Very magical indeed, I could stare at it for hours~ Kenny- I tend to lean towards more stylized styles, so his work is like eye candy for me! I love the colors and the textures and the FACES. Oh the faces! Chefs kiss~ Edwards- I love the colors, especially the darker ones. Really stands out and creates a cool mood! The expressions stand out so much to me, oh and I love the little details he adds. And that illustration from Stepney’s special? THE LIGHTING. THE LIGHTING it’s so gorgeous and warm and I WISH I could color like that so much~ the perspective looks great too! Hodges- I love those smoke rings they’re so cute! I love how his looks like pictures taken at the scene. The watercolor textures are lovely to look at as well~ A quick TLDR is that I really love colors and bright ones at that 😅
4:24 Bert not being in his rebuilt form i can understand as said rebuild was never in a story, so having him be suddenly in a new shape with no explanation would've confused readers.
For me, it goes: 8th). William Middelton 7th). Clive Spong 6th). Lorraine Marshall 5th). Clarence Reginald Dalby 4th). Edgar Hodges 3rd). Reginald Payne 2nd). John T. Kenny 1st). Gunvor & Peter Edwards
Dalby at least gets points for the faces, I actually think he was the most impactful to the TV show in terms of the characters' expressive range. He's the only guy that gave James his iconic shit eating grin for example. :P I think like I'd rate Spong higher if he had kept up the more varied cartoony faces he used in Really Useful Engines while still refining his artstyle. Could have been the best of both worlds.
Kenny was (and still is) my favorite when I read the books as a child cause he made the faces super expressive without looking creepy, lol. I actually didn’t like Edwards’ art when I was younger cause I thought the colors were “weird” but as an adult I’m blown away by the skill required to illustrate like he does!
Cool choices. My ranking would have to be, from best to worst: 1. Peter Edwards 2. John T Kenny 3. Edgar Hodges 4. C Reginald Dalby 5. Lorraine Marshall 6. Reginald Payne 7. Clive Spong 8. William Middleton
I honestly think that the Edward's, Kenny and Hodges are OUT OF THIS WORLD, like their soooooooooooooo good Also you forgot Stephen Lings if he even counts 😐
My personal ranking: 6: William Middleton: his illustrations look awful, and not colored in good. 5: C. R. Dalby: made a number of inconsistencies and had a pretty.. “interesting” experience working with Wilbert Awdry. 4: Clive Spong: His illustrations started off terrible, but got much better as the series went on. 3: Reginald Payne: he set the groundwork for things to come. With the future illustration styling. 2:John T Kenny: his illustrations often times looked hilarious in tone. I liked them. 1: Gunvor and Peter Edwards: WHAT ELSE IS THERE TO SAY?? THERE ILLUSTRATIONS ARE F**KING WORTHY TO BE PUT IN AN ART MUSEUM.
Those are the biggest issues I have when drawing engines. With humans I can work without the perspective but knowing perspective is near obligatory when it comes to any type of vehicle. At least for me 😅
@@ScrapyardStudios I'm a Kenney stan through and through, and was almost outraged to see him at number three but you made some solid points that justified your decision and made me agree, for sure!
DUDE WHAT THE HECK IS UP WITH THE SHIRT IN THE Reginald Payne discussion LIKE THOSE ARE SONIC CHARACTERS THAT ARE (ahem) *kissing*why would you show that picture. What just for a meme? 🤣
My ranking for illustrators is. 8. William Middleton. 7. Reginald Payne. 6. Lorraine Marshall. 5. Edgar Hodges. 4. Clive Spong. 3. C Reginald Dalby. 2. John T Kenny. 1. Peter Edwards.
The reason that Middleton's illustrations look so lifeless probably has something to do with the fact that he didn't care about The Railway Series whatsoever. He's stated that he didn't think it would succeed since it was about "dirty old locomotives". So it was like he just went "This series is gonna fail no matter what, so why should I bother with this book's illustrations?"
Great to see another huge John T. Kenney fan! One of his many great qualities to me were his human characters, they really brought the world to life with things like smoking, lifting boxes and digging holes. Great seeing Hodges so high, it's a shame he couldn't have done more because just imagine how insane it'd be if he got to really shine.
My favourite illustrator is a tie between and Kenny and Edwards. Their illustrations look absolutely amazing and for some reason look something out of stained glass window in terms of colours. I wished Hodges was kept on because his illustrations look amazing and consistent. Marshal is so underrated it's shocking. Her illustrations look very nice.
10:31
That painting of Flying Scotsman looks exactly like someone snapped a picture of him. I love it!
It really does
I'm glad you included Edgar Hodges. He's highly underrated, he's definitely the best illustrator out there, and it's a shame Chris Awdry didn't get him to illustrate his books. They would've been much better than the Spong illustrations.
I'm personally not a fan of Loraine Marshall's illustrations. I'd say her art shines the best with A Scarf for Percy, as it was almost all new illustrations due to it being more closely followed to the TVS episode, and not the original Percy and the Trousers. There's almost no confliction of style, and looks fairly nice. I do like some changes she made to some illustrations, too, like giving the engine that overturned on the points in Gordon goes Foreign a face. I do have to say, however, that there are inconsistencies with proportions at moments, and at the times where her original illustrations combined with her re-illustrations of the originals is just very conflicting with the art style.
My personal ratings for all of them:
Hodges: 11/10
Edwards: 10/10
Kenney: 9/10
Payne: 7.5/10
Marshall: 5.5 to 7.5/10 (Trucks! at the low end, A Scarf for Percy at the high end)
Dalby: 6.5/10
Spong: 4 to 7/10 (Really Useful Engines at the low end, Thomas and Victoria at the high end)
Middleton: 2/10
Peter Edward’s is just.. 😩 chefs kiss 👌👌👌
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So Thomas march has been around since the 60s interesting
3:39 Hmm, why am i imagining the silhouettes of two men beating eachother up..?
Studying other art styles to see what I like is one of my favorite things to do, so this video is always nice to come back to. I like your editing and your commentary.
My notes for my favorites are:
Clive- I LOVE his colors. They’re both so bright and livley. The trains look wonderful too, though I find it distracting how similar the faces can get. It’s a bit unnerving. I do like the expressions a lot though!
Payne- I like the colors and the faces a lot. The smoke looks so good I can taste it 😋 The specific illustrations you showed had a warm looking tone I really liked too!
Marshall- Her colors too are vibrant as you said, and that one at 6:01 has my whole heart! Very magical indeed, I could stare at it for hours~
Kenny- I tend to lean towards more stylized styles, so his work is like eye candy for me! I love the colors and the textures and the FACES. Oh the faces! Chefs kiss~
Edwards- I love the colors, especially the darker ones. Really stands out and creates a cool mood! The expressions stand out so much to me, oh and I love the little details he adds. And that illustration from Stepney’s special? THE LIGHTING. THE LIGHTING it’s so gorgeous and warm and I WISH I could color like that so much~ the perspective looks great too!
Hodges-
I love those smoke rings they’re so cute! I love how his looks like pictures taken at the scene. The watercolor textures are lovely to look at as well~
A quick TLDR is that I really love colors and bright ones at that 😅
6:06 WHY IS PERCY DEPICTED AS A 0-4-2???
7:29 LOL
4:24 Bert not being in his rebuilt form i can understand as said rebuild was never in a story, so having him be suddenly in a new shape with no explanation would've confused readers.
But JTNE came out 3 years after IOS
10:46 Percy looks like Peter Sam in that Meet Percy picture.
No he doesn’t
8:41
I didn’t knew it either
For me, it goes:
8th). William Middelton
7th). Clive Spong
6th). Lorraine Marshall
5th). Clarence Reginald Dalby
4th). Edgar Hodges
3rd). Reginald Payne
2nd). John T. Kenny
1st). Gunvor & Peter Edwards
8:44
What about that book on the ground?
Read it pal
@@ScrapyardStudios
It’s too small to read
Ok, fair enough. It says ‘How Engines Work Vol I’
@@ScrapyardStudios
Thank you
Dalby at least gets points for the faces, I actually think he was the most impactful to the TV show in terms of the characters' expressive range. He's the only guy that gave James his iconic shit eating grin for example. :P
I think like I'd rate Spong higher if he had kept up the more varied cartoony faces he used in Really Useful Engines while still refining his artstyle. Could have been the best of both worlds.
My personal favorite is edwards, their illustration is art. And that one illustration of henry, that is the most hardest illustration of RWS
Kenny was (and still is) my favorite when I read the books as a child cause he made the faces super expressive without looking creepy, lol. I actually didn’t like Edwards’ art when I was younger cause I thought the colors were “weird” but as an adult I’m blown away by the skill required to illustrate like he does!
There is also an illustrator that started it all... The Reverend W Awdry!
Sketches don’t count as illustrations
@@ScrapyardStudios he didn’t make official illustrations but he made a few illustrations for the first book back when the others weren’t public yet
That’s what I mean, they were sketches
@@ScrapyardStudios oh, sorry
Oh you did nothing wrong. In fact, I knew I’d get a comment like this lol
Brilliant, although I still have a bias to spong for the most part, I prefer his engines by far, although his faces are rather lacking.
I’d never heard of Mr Hodges until now, and I’ll have to agree with you on his placement!
Cool choices. My ranking would have to be, from best to worst:
1. Peter Edwards
2. John T Kenny
3. Edgar Hodges
4. C Reginald Dalby
5. Lorraine Marshall
6. Reginald Payne
7. Clive Spong
8. William Middleton
I love all the illustrators who brought the series to life.
8. William Middleton (1/10)
7. Clive Spong (6/10)
6. Clarence Reginald Dalby (7/10)
5. Lorraine Marshall (8/10)
4. Reginald Payne (8/10)
3. Edgar Hodges (9/10)
2. John T Kenny (10/10)
1. Peter Edwards (10/10)
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I never notice that before but I don’t consider it a big deal.
Also Henry looks the same to me.
My favorite illustrator is without a doubt peter Edward's
I honestly think that the Edward's, Kenny and Hodges are OUT OF THIS WORLD, like their soooooooooooooo good
Also you forgot Stephen Lings if he even counts 😐
No, you’re wrong, I did include Clive Spong
@@ScrapyardStudios ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh sorry My mistake 🤓
I love all The Railway Series illustrations
My personal ranking:
6: William Middleton: his illustrations look awful, and not colored in good.
5: C. R. Dalby: made a number of inconsistencies and had a pretty.. “interesting” experience working with Wilbert Awdry.
4: Clive Spong: His illustrations started off terrible, but got much better as the series went on.
3: Reginald Payne: he set the groundwork for things to come. With the future illustration styling.
2:John T Kenny: his illustrations often times looked hilarious in tone. I liked them.
1: Gunvor and Peter Edwards: WHAT ELSE IS THERE TO SAY?? THERE ILLUSTRATIONS ARE F**KING WORTHY TO BE PUT IN AN ART MUSEUM.
The inconsistent proportions and the terrible perspective in every illustration something i struggle with alot
Those are the biggest issues I have when drawing engines. With humans I can work without the perspective but knowing perspective is near obligatory when it comes to any type of vehicle. At least for me 😅
0:34 song name?
Nevermind
Doesn’t Wilbert Awdry count as an RWS illustrator?
The Reverend only did rough sketches so no I don’t count him
@@ScrapyardStudios Got it.
Edward is fantastic in main line engine and Enterprise engine
Man, Lorraine over Clive Spong is certainly a choice. Her stuff always felt like (admittedly good) fanart to me.
It does certainly have that vibe
@@ScrapyardStudios I'm a Kenney stan through and through, and was almost outraged to see him at number three but you made some solid points that justified your decision and made me agree, for sure!
I'd say that dalby wanted more if a individualness to the engines, but I cant disagree with shit like the 4-6-0 james and missing buffer edward
DUDE WHAT THE HECK IS UP WITH THE SHIRT IN THE Reginald Payne discussion LIKE THOSE ARE SONIC CHARACTERS THAT ARE (ahem) *kissing*why would you show that picture. What just for a meme? 🤣
Absolutely 🤣
I could just be really mad but I don’t want to be mad. Also where do you get that picture from?
A family member sent it via Instagram
Oh lol
I aggre with your list lad i relly do
My Favorite was dalby
My ranking for illustrators is.
8. William Middleton.
7. Reginald Payne.
6. Lorraine Marshall.
5. Edgar Hodges.
4. Clive Spong.
3. C Reginald Dalby.
2. John T Kenny.
1. Peter Edwards.
I think I am the only Payne fanboy.
The reason that Middleton's illustrations look so lifeless probably has something to do with the fact that he didn't care about The Railway Series whatsoever. He's stated that he didn't think it would succeed since it was about "dirty old locomotives".
So it was like he just went "This series is gonna fail no matter what, so why should I bother with this book's illustrations?"
I could probably draw something better than the first guy
Dalby, Kennedy, Middleton & Sponge are crap in my opinion except for Guvnor, Peter & Payne (the 2 of them are my favorite)
William Middleton, Clarence Reginald Dalby and Clive Sponge are trash I pefer John T Kennedy, Loarine Marshall and the Edwards