Tesla Model S Plaid vs Long Range!

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  • @patriciazoerner
    @patriciazoerner ปีที่แล้ว +5

    About the yoke steering wheel, I spent three hours one day practicing tight turns in a deserted parking lot and an hour another day practicing on a pair of close left u turnarounds. By the end of those practice sessions, tight turns came as naturally with the yoke as they did with a standard steering wheel. As a grey haired, female, social security recipient who didn't learn how to drive until I was 22, I am pretty sure that if I can get comfortable with the yoke, anyone can.

  • @Speedlimitreviews
    @Speedlimitreviews 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Probably the best review of the refresh S! Very well done, great flow and covered it from top to bottom. Great job.

  • @thescibsters2049
    @thescibsters2049 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is by far the best new S review hands down and I’ve watched a TON! Finally a back screen explanation!! Grazie! 🙏

  • @pt192
    @pt192 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    7:27 The 0-60 might be the same as the M3P, but it has a faster 1/4 mile due to a faster 60-130mph than the M3P. Higher horsepower.

    • @pt192
      @pt192 ปีที่แล้ว

      M3P finishes a 1/4 mile at 112mph whereas the long range Model S finishes at 128mph and the plaid at about 150mph.

  • @matteocomelli9587
    @matteocomelli9587 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This car IS faster than a Model 3 Performance, even on the 0-60, because Model 3 does 3.1 with 1ft rollout, this does 3.1 without 1ft rollout (about 2.9 with 1ft rollout) and it only gets better from here!
    The 60-130mph on this new Model S Long Range is about 7.4 seconds, which is significantly faster than both a Raven Model S Performance (9 seconds) and a Porsche Taycan Turbo S (7.8 seconds)
    You heard that right, the BASE Model S is as fast as a Taycan Turbo to 60 and faster than a Turbo S to 130..

    • @bayes1124
      @bayes1124 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What about the gearbox?
      And at the same time, it has reproducible performance and the ability to charge faster. It is very likely that the new LR will have even better cooling, because the Taycan is similar to the Model 3:
      "VERY DISAPPOINTED - car was way way way down on power in morning session after hot lap #6!!!! About the same number of laps I get with my Model 3 at Laguna before power reduction
      Battery temperature leaving hte garage before session #1 was 72F
      returning to garage battery temp was 132F - car was way way down on power
      ambient air temp this morning at laguna was 50F or less (46F for 1st session)
      6 hot laps = 12-15 minutes of hard driving at laguna - so it's more than nurumbergring lap (8 minutes or less) - but so much for Porsche's vaunted 800V and improved battery cooling system - the car can _NOT_ run flat out for a full 25 minute track day session - I had to come in at 18 minutes or there about because I was sooo down on power I was a hazard on track - 2nd session went better, but only did 4-5 laps because I hit 17% battery after 4 laps (no fast charging at Laguna)"
      www.taycanforum.com/forum/threads/2020-taycan-turbo-vs-laguna-seca-w-hooked-on-driving-lap-data-impressions-added.2923/
      Or worse:
      "By the end of the race, Team Taisan’s Tesla Model 3 with Unplugged Performance parts stood in first place, followed by the other four Model 3s in the event. The Porsche Taycan Turbo S, due to its throttling issue, came in at 6th place. Possibly due to these results, the Gulf Racing team adopted a new strategy for the Grand Prix’s third round, which was held last month at the Tsukuba Circuit.
      The 2021 All-Japan EV Grand Prix Series’ third round was another 55 km race, and it involved 12 laps around the famous racetrack. This time around, Gulf Racing took its time with the Porsche Taycan Turbo S, pacing itself instead of accelerating like a bat out of hell from the start of the race. This proved quite useful, as the vehicle lasted longer than in the previous two rounds. However, the seemingly inevitable power loss issue emerged once more at the 10th lap.
      Because of this, the Porsche Taycan Turbo S never managed to catch Team Taisan’s Model 3 with Unplugged Performance parts, which ended the race in first place once more. This marked the 100th career victory for Yasutsune “Ricky” Chiba, the founder of Team Taisan, as well as Unplugged Performance, whose Tesla tuning capabilities are becoming more and more recognized. Following the Unplugged Model 3 were six other Teslas, one of them being from Gulf Racing."
      www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-3-crushes-porsche-taycan-turbo-s-3x-track-video/

    • @matteocomelli9587
      @matteocomelli9587 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bayes1124 what about the gearbox? I really have no idea, looks like Tesla's motors and battery packs can push harder at high speed than the greatly marketed Taycan's dual gear system.. and the Long Range S doesen't even have carbon sleeved rotors...
      The Taycan always had some heat problems, but people always overlooked because old Model S was even worse, many never noticed the throttling problems on the Taycan because it has great power and it's hard to notice at first.
      Model S Plaid is at the nurburgring right now, i hope for a sub 7:15 hot lap

  • @maccahal7184
    @maccahal7184 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    This video may be the reason I get the LR over the Plaid. Coming from an M3P as well. Every other video was all about the plaid! Thanks for doing an LR!

    • @jon4lakers
      @jon4lakers  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Appreciate that. All I saw was Plaid as well and was super curious.

    • @RichardJoashTan
      @RichardJoashTan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But this is the true reason why I will get a fully loaded Plaid over the LR because I want to be one of them.

    • @IdeaMusicKen
      @IdeaMusicKen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have M3P and waiting on my LR Model S too. I don’t see the point in getting the plaid. When will you ever drive that fast.

    • @TXFlyer32
      @TXFlyer32 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is a massive shortage of Model S Long Range videos compared to the Plaid. I’ve driven both Plaid and Long Range and the 2023 LR was my choice, it runs a 10.87 1/4 mile and has all the looks and features of the Plaid. I

    • @frankcutronijr
      @frankcutronijr ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I came for a 2006 BMW 330i. I don't miss the dealers $4,000 and $6,000 per year repair costs of the BMW. My maintenance for the 2022 Model 3 Performance last year was $50 for wiper blades.

  • @neil5819
    @neil5819 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    @25:56 A kid in a booster seat sitting behind a 6'5" person in the passenger seat could absolutely fit comfortably back there IMO. It's not like a kid in a booster seat has the legs of grown man.

  • @ButterNutter37
    @ButterNutter37 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Model S Long Range has been running around 10.8 @ 129 mph in the 1/4 mile. For comparison, a Model S Performance Raven will run 10.4 @ 127 in Ludicrous+ with full launch mode, and about 10.7@124 in regular Ludicrous mode without battery pre-heating. So the new Model S Long Range is being neutered on the launch but from a rolling start, is actually faster than a Performance Raven or P100DL. Amazing compromise given you still get all the other benefits of the Plaid. Once again, Tesla creates a compelling product and moves the goalposts!

    • @bayes1124
      @bayes1124 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes, it is worth noting that the new Model S Long Range accelerates 60-130 mph in 7.25 seconds (or 100-200 km/h in 6.5 seconds). This is faster than the Porsche Taycan Turbo S by 0.5 seconds. I think the LR acceleration is limited to make the Plaid look better. In fact, the new LR is the old Performance, but with much better technical equipment (faster charging, repeatable performance), faster 60-130, but slower 0-60. Acceleration of 60-130 is much more important for your safety and driving experience.

    • @HomeCinemaJunkie
      @HomeCinemaJunkie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bayes1124 yeah, spot on! If you think about it, launch mode is more of gimmick unless you race which I will never do. :)

  • @wyatt4778
    @wyatt4778 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Yes, so excited to watch this!! Your car reviews are always amazing!!

    • @jon4lakers
      @jon4lakers  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you man!

  • @rickagfoster
    @rickagfoster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The way to turn left with the yoke is to use right hand to underhand the bottom right of the wheel. Super easy that way, you'll get the wheel all the way in that one move.

  • @Patrick462
    @Patrick462 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Absolutely perfect overview, thanks. I've got a Model S long range on order (since January), looks like a fairly major upgrade from my current Model S (2016). This video will be the first I re-watch before I pick up the new car!

    • @jon4lakers
      @jon4lakers  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When is your delivery? What color?

    • @Patrick462
      @Patrick462 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jon4lakers Here's the text on my Tesla account from 1/10/2021 to today: "We will reach out to you to schedule your delivery date. Delivery time frame is based on order date, profile submission, delivery location and vehicle configuration." So there's that.
      We ended up selling the extra Tesla (a Model 3) in March under the assumption that the new S would be available in a few weeks. Fortunately we still have the old S to tide us over.
      We went with the blue (our other Teslas were both black, time for a change) with the black fake leather interior. My wife strongly dislikes the white interior, I think she feels it will show age and dirt easily. We like the black door handles, the chrome ones we had a few "don't touch a burning stove" moments the first year. You mentioned in the video the black handles were cooler when in direct sunlight, are they so much cooler you don't notice any heat?
      Thanks again for the video, it was calm and rational so a nice break from almost every other TH-cam video.

    • @jon4lakers
      @jon4lakers  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Patrick462 Appreciate the kind words man.

    • @henrylee8510
      @henrylee8510 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me 2 since March. Just checked tesla and they are showing 2022 Feb deliveries for LR. Just a few days ago it showed Sept/Oct 2021. What gives? Does it mean our LR are going to be end of the year?

    • @Patrick462
      @Patrick462 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@henrylee8510 I think the February 2022 delivery schedule for the Model S long range is for new orders.
      According to TH-cam, which is never wrong or misleading, at least some people are taking delivery of the Model S long range (hereinafter referred to as "SLR"). Here's a guy from a couple hours away from me who seems like a normal person th-cam.com/video/eBCJ3dGIlLQ/w-d-xo.html (drove SLR from Houston to Seattle last week).
      So I'm hoping for September (2021) for early orders!

  • @TheRocky3211
    @TheRocky3211 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The screen will have some rotation , look up the Tesla service manual to see the mechanism that will move it .

  • @tudosednicusor
    @tudosednicusor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If it was a Mercedes or a BMW, you wouldn't be so caustic. The problem is who's paying you. I have a Tesla and I can't say the new model has anything less. It's superlative. A very practical family car and very easy to maintain. yes, I'm talking about Tesla Plaid.

  • @Matt.e_Black
    @Matt.e_Black 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    LR is no joke; accelerates faster than the outgoing Raven Performance, particularly at highway speeds!

  • @mjs90201
    @mjs90201 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On cars with an airbag in the steering wheel, the "push and pull" steering method should be used for safety. This method prevents your arms from crossing in front of the airbag, which can cause severe injuries to your arms or hands. Of course, the yoke makes this extremely awkward or impossible.

  • @TechManiac11
    @TechManiac11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Awesome video Jon! Great in depth review. And great shots 🔥

  • @jasoncurtis4515
    @jasoncurtis4515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Finally! The review I’ve been searching for and couldn’t find until now. Thank you! Now I know I made the right decision to order the LRS. Looking forward to follow up videos on more long term impressions. Keep them coming!

  • @shinaikouka
    @shinaikouka ปีที่แล้ว

    @6:47 It's important to note that what you're doing here doesn't appear to be a three-point turn (K-turn). I say that because when doing a three-point turn, you should end up going the opposite direction as the entire point is that it serves as a method to turn around on a road when there's no other option. I think the point of those videos is that the yoke is harder to deal with when you're doing quick hand maneuvers because you really can't grab anywhere. That's something that I noticed pretty quickly during things like quick, consecutive turns when using the yoke.

  • @rayshepherd2479
    @rayshepherd2479 ปีที่แล้ว

    Plaid is now $15,000 more than long range and comes standard with round wheel. Currently $74,990 for long range and $89,990 for plaid with 19 inch rims, black interior and any color. Ultra red was $3,000 option.

  • @Iwo26
    @Iwo26 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My only disappointment is the lack of cool interior lighting. For such a futuristic car, the interior lighting is poor to say the least. BMW and Mercedes are definitely ahead in that respect.

  • @iamtheuse6321
    @iamtheuse6321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A 2014 freightliner I used to drive had the air horn on the wheel in about the same spot, hard to use it as it was a moving target you had to look down at the wheel to find it. They returned it to the spot where you would traditionally find the air horn. I think that may happen here especially the horn and signals people will get tired of chasing them.

  • @patriciazoerner
    @patriciazoerner 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your Initial suggested technique for handling the yoke was really funny! Nice to see that when you actually used the yoke to steer, all of the laughably jerky, wild overreaching disappeared and you showed just how easy and natural turns actually are. Thanks for the silly initial demonstration, though. It was a hoot!

  • @adilongaify
    @adilongaify 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What you show at 1:20 for turning with the yoke is not how you have turn at 6:48.
    And it definitely seems more natural at 6:48 when you put your right hand on the bottom of the yoke for turning and not on the side of the yoke as you have explain at 1:20.
    Howewer nice review, one of the best if it is not the best !
    (and sorry if my english is not perfect I'm french)

  • @TXFlyer32
    @TXFlyer32 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The new standard Model S may only be 0-60 in 3.1 but it is WAY faster than the Model 3 performance after 60mph. From 60mph it will pull away from the Model 3 Performance with ease. The 1/4 mile time for the Model S is very consistent at 10.9 vs 11.5 for the Model 3 Performance.

  • @Hurkie
    @Hurkie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice review, I've ordered a white long range S to replace my 2015 model S. But I'm from europe (Netherlands), so closest thing to actually enjoy the car is watching youtube videos about it. Estimated delivery Q1 2022

  • @ElectricGlider2016
    @ElectricGlider2016 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another thing about the in cabin camera is that there's also an IR camera located within that housing too.

  • @valdrinmehmeti
    @valdrinmehmeti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The stearing wheel looks unconffortable

  • @mrjuno1
    @mrjuno1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Most useful review I've seen, and I've seen plenty. I have a long range X on order, outfitted with six seats, so two front, two middle, two rear (the rear two will be folded down 90% of the time). That should pretty much solve the middle row legroom problem.

    • @jon4lakers
      @jon4lakers  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. When’s your expected delivery. Mine says January

    • @mrjuno1
      @mrjuno1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jon4lakers Mine used to say January, but as far as I can tell they've deleted the date field entirely!

  • @sandykinslow2726
    @sandykinslow2726 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is one of the most in-depth reviews of this car I have seen yet. Well done Sir!

  • @Unsmooth_Edwarda
    @Unsmooth_Edwarda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's a lot faster than the performance 3 because this car can trap 130 mph in the quarter mile versus 117 for the model 3 Performance

  • @KyleHubb
    @KyleHubb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The addition of an extra motor, which makes three PMSM, carbon-sleeved rotors, and a top speed of 200 mph. The Plaid is a hyper-sedan. They're not in the same category.

  • @davidgoldwasser9101
    @davidgoldwasser9101 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do not say this about a lot of TH-cam videos but this video is amazing

  • @davehaller6477
    @davehaller6477 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You need to know if you order either car with 19" wheels, you do not know when they will start delivery due to "regulatory" issues with the wheels.

  • @michaeljacobdy
    @michaeljacobdy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thanks for the detailed review! Everything's all great, except the steering wheel is kinda meh when you do quick maneuvering...

    • @RichardJoashTan
      @RichardJoashTan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love the yoke because your comment is TWICE the meh than you think.

    • @Mkvkuv
      @Mkvkuv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yoke is terrible too bad it's the only option for model s/x

    • @radfree9370
      @radfree9370 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is bound to be a company working on a 3rd part accessory.

  • @supensabideo
    @supensabideo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Super helpful and non-biased review! Also provides some insights into what the X will be like inside. Thanks!

    • @jon4lakers
      @jon4lakers  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed.

  • @radfree9370
    @radfree9370 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think if I could have any type of steering, I would go with the combination between the yoke and stalks. That's how it's in the roadster.

  • @davejohnson6144
    @davejohnson6144 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the review! How about interior creeks and rattles or weird squeeks from the door panels, dash or interior materials?

  • @BrianK04
    @BrianK04 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Model S long range is 3.1 0-60. Model 3 performance is 3.1 0-60* *with 1foot rollout subtracted. So not the same, faster than the 3 performance.

    • @PerformanceRaven
      @PerformanceRaven 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The new Model S does the quarter mile in 10.6 @129 mph.

  • @CharlxtteOlivia
    @CharlxtteOlivia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great quality video! I love everything but the wheel 😅 so no… hope they can bring back the traditional one or make the new one as an option makes more sense

  • @TeslaRaj
    @TeslaRaj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great in-depth review Jon! Glad you go too get behind a new Model S!

    • @jon4lakers
      @jon4lakers  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you man!!!

  • @cloud_studios.712
    @cloud_studios.712 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    it would be really cool if we can shift gears with either of the scroll wheels on the yoke, and this function to be activated only when you have the foot on the brake and you are at 0 mph/kmh

  • @michelleman8672
    @michelleman8672 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The best review I've seen so far.
    on all new model s 👏👏👌👌

    • @jon4lakers
      @jon4lakers  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Appreciate that, thank you!

  • @andrewilliams3265
    @andrewilliams3265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Jon, great video! Can you share what your real world range has been like so far?

    • @jon4lakers
      @jon4lakers  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Only had it for a day, but 350 I’d say.

  • @rdk3996
    @rdk3996 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really good review! Thank you!

  • @bobcortez9471
    @bobcortez9471 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about Pandora? Or, for us that are traditional, can we plug in our phone and stream pandora from it?

  • @renp
    @renp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Classic John review, in depth with all details 👌👌

  • @RobertMacCready
    @RobertMacCready ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Drove a Model S last Sunday at an EV gathering here in Florida. Tesla had 2 cars that you could test drive. I cannot believe how fast the Model S is. Not sure why anyone would want to spend another 35-40K for the Plaid. I was very impressed. And I own a C8 Corvette. But I don't think I could beat the Tesla Model S. Should I wait till the 1st of the year to see if the new batteries go into the S? Will there be any body changes for 2023?

    • @rayshepherd2479
      @rayshepherd2479 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's now $15,000 more than the model S long range.

  • @JohnnyZenith
    @JohnnyZenith 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pity about the lack of some tech like AR HUD.

  • @yvonnewood3842
    @yvonnewood3842 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Has the back space/front seats been modified....Is the back seat on the new Model S smaller than the older ones?

  • @HomeCinemaJunkie
    @HomeCinemaJunkie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks! Best Model S review so far!

  • @cyumadbrosummit3534
    @cyumadbrosummit3534 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very well done review.

  • @jayygtr
    @jayygtr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does the rear screen plays game now?

  • @Campwise05
    @Campwise05 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video Jon!

    • @jon4lakers
      @jon4lakers  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you josh!!!

  • @tejeshyel
    @tejeshyel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s a cart steering yoke..
    BMW does not even provide a flat bottom steering wheel, but does delivery a great driving experience

    • @bayes1124
      @bayes1124 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A flat bottom steering wheel impairs the quality of driving. The only purpose of such a steering wheel is to provide a convenient exit from the car and try to stand out among other cars, because for people who are not well versed in cars, such a steering wheel looks cool. It is not surprising that such steering wheels are put in Audi.

    • @tejeshyel
      @tejeshyel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bayes1124 p.s I am a fan of a full wheel.. the pleasure it gives to brush my palms while the steering turns back into neutral position after a turn

  • @jimmysong1347
    @jimmysong1347 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just ordered one replace my BMW X7.. my concern is rear seat leg room.. I wish rear seat has 2 or 3 more inch leg room

  • @toddr.lockwood843
    @toddr.lockwood843 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent review. It answers many questions I had about the Long Range. Overall, this is a very impressive car when compared with earlier versions of the Model S. I'm curious to see how the noise-cancellation system works when Tesla turns it on.

    • @JetFire9
      @JetFire9 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s on and it’s 😢

  • @chrisjaston
    @chrisjaston 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing review!

    • @jon4lakers
      @jon4lakers  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you Chris.

    • @chrisjaston
      @chrisjaston 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jon4lakers I grew up watching your iPhone videos /reviews and that got me a job in Tech. Thanks for inspiring me all these years. GOAT

  • @hwasu22
    @hwasu22 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great content! Can you comment on how the white interior has held up? I’m on the fence due to kids. Also, his is the ride comfort on the 21”?

  • @frankcutronijr
    @frankcutronijr ปีที่แล้ว

    Would you get the 19" or 21" rims?

  • @discerningmind
    @discerningmind 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Am I understanding that the video car is a Long-Range S and has maybe an optional yoke? Based on other videos and the Tesla web site, I've understood that the Yoke only comes with the S-Plaid.

  • @champabay6959
    @champabay6959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was hoping for some objective numbers on acceleration like Dragy? D-Pointed.

  • @Tricksandbeats
    @Tricksandbeats 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great cinematic review, top notch quality! :D

  • @rageshm7741
    @rageshm7741 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I recently purchased the PNP coin. Tbh, I’m very impressed with the service that they are providing. Can you post a video on the PNP coin

  • @tN0able
    @tN0able 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about ambient lighting and active noise cancellation? Both were advertised on the website.

  • @MrKang20
    @MrKang20 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Something i haven't seen covered in any videos is a review on the sound system. Good bad or great? I know there was an update recently that activated the sub but still no reviews talk about it.

  • @davidkendall2272
    @davidkendall2272 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review, can't wait to get my Midnight Silver LR MS. Yours looks spectacular.

  • @gsjunior514
    @gsjunior514 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When you busssss 7:38

  • @nicolaswalsh
    @nicolaswalsh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think people who don’t like Sudans for the lower sitting position, would accept the compromise 😉

  • @IDamian1
    @IDamian1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    All that interior white...what happens with stains, easily showing up...are they easily cleaned?

  • @royrauch9775
    @royrauch9775 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Face it, the vast majority of Tesla Plaid buyers get them for one thing....they are the fastest cars on the planet (a caveat here that I should mention is other European cars that come fairly close to the Plaids performance usually cost at least double the Plaids base price, and the Rimac Nevera, which is about a half second faster than a Plaid, last week was certified legal for all countries safety requirements, will only have 150 models made and costs $2,400,000 before options!) that you can buy from a manufacturer that you don't have to spend an additional $20-$30K to modify them to still be slower than a S Plaid. AND for you folks that agree and have interest in speed rather than how far we can go on a charge, or how much your Teslas will be worth 3 years from now, or the minor fit and finish issues that are always mentioned by Tesla haters, and are usually taken care by Tesla when mentioned when you buy this Model, this will be right up your alley! The TOP LINE Lucid Air offers 1,111HP, while the Plaid offers a supposedly 1,020HP, BUT there is a TH-cam video that has a Plaid on a 4 hub dyno that develops 1,101HP STOCK from the factory. The Plaid also weighs approximately 400 pounds LESS than the Lucid Air, and averages between $20,000 to $30,000 Less than the advertised $179,900 than the Lucid costs DEPENDING ON OPTIONS CHOSEN for each car.
    Last month a Tesla Model S Plaid in Napierville, Quebec set the new record for the fastest quarter-mile time for the electric sedan at 8.83 seconds and 161mph.
    The Model S had a stripped out interior for weight savings, as well as SV104 wheels wrapped in Mickey Thompson drag radials at the rear and Michelin PS4 tires on the front.
    Not content with the blistering fast time, the same Model S Plaid has set a new record this week. At the same track in Napierville the Model S crossed the line in just 8.77 seconds at 162.55mph (261.60km/h), a 5.67 second 1/8 mile time and an outstanding 125MPH to 162MPH time in 3.1 seconds!!!
    As for what changed that allowed the car to go faster this time the owner, TMC user mulot30th, said there was an additional 60lb weight saving over the previous attempt due to someone else being behind the wheel on the run.
    Additionally he said there a slight change to the suspension.
    “Main change is suspension geometry change (slight) which reduce “tire drag” a little bit at least that is what I intended to do with that and have worked,” he said.
    Interestingly, the top speed at the end of his quarter mile run of 162.55mph is inches away from the electronically limited top speed (when not in Track Mode) of 163mph.
    As first told earlier this week, Quebec-based Ingenext was able to hack their way past that limiter and reached a top speed of 216mph (347km/h).
    As for this Model S Plaid, the owner says that while the car does not feel like it is slowing down when crossing the line, he feels there is not much room to improve beyond 8.77s with the current setup, but a BIG brake option available from Tesla and several other Tesla specific after market parts dealers at a much reduced price, and TOP OF THE LINE HIGH SPEED RATED STREET TIRES should also be used!
    You can check out the record runs both of TOP SPEED and FASTEST QUARTER MILE time on several TH-cam 9

  • @SDot-dp9xm
    @SDot-dp9xm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fyi it is faster than a M3P. Tesla performance cars includes rollout to achieve 0 to 60 times. Non performance doesn't include rollout.

    • @scottw595
      @scottw595 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      155 vs 162 so technically the S long range is slower.
      0-60 vs the Performance is a wash. The 60-120 is where the S fly’s.

    • @SDot-dp9xm
      @SDot-dp9xm 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scottw595 at top speed sure.... the LR is the quicker car technically.

    • @bayes1124
      @bayes1124 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@scottw595Yes, 60-130 mph in 7.25 seconds. Faster than the Porsche Taycan Turbo S with a gearbox, which Porsche claimed is proof that they are light years ahead of Tesla. Twice as fast as the Model 3 Performance. Faster than the BMW M5 Competition and similar cars.

    • @scottw595
      @scottw595 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bayes1124 I still ordered the plaid just to make sure!

    • @SDot-dp9xm
      @SDot-dp9xm 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scottw595 you will love it... just try to restrain yourself. Its super easy to hit triple digits speeds in that car.

  • @michaelheinrich44
    @michaelheinrich44 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello from Germany. This is a very well made review. Thank you very much.

  • @alexandreandrianov5970
    @alexandreandrianov5970 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent review. Thank you very much!

  • @MrExitStrategy
    @MrExitStrategy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man, have you found any issues on yours? I've found quite a few (arguably relatively minor) issues upon delivery of my LR. I made a video about it and I'm just curious whether these issues are contained in just a small batch.
    Awesome review, btw. Thank you!

  • @jvmbatista
    @jvmbatista 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    yoke steering, touch buttons and gear selection using AI / infotainment system are all solutions for problems that they created.
    What's wrong with having fixed stocks to perform vital operations in a car?
    What's wrong with having your horn in the airbag or the stock?
    What's wrong with properly adjusting your steering wheel and seat position so that you can have an unobstructed view of the dashboard?
    What's wrong with having a 4-position switch/knob to select what gear you want?

    • @chelsiestinson9494
      @chelsiestinson9494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      First principles. No part is the best part. All input is error. Just because we used to do it doesn't make it right.

    • @daniel_960_
      @daniel_960_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s perfect for autonomous driving when you won’t need those things in the first place.
      The Yoke is great for flooring it.
      But yeah rn it gets forced on you. And touch buttons are never a great solution.

  • @IDamian1
    @IDamian1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's a gap in the roofline at 18:51. Is that intentional? I don't see it at 1920 (the other side of the car) but that may only be the camera angle creating a faux view.

    • @henrikduff4709
      @henrikduff4709 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m guessing it’s the trunk

  • @dereklee3695
    @dereklee3695 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    But the important question is where’s the Caraoke app, it’s missing! :) I’ve had my long range now for 3 weeks or so (traded I my 2013 S) and it’s like going from a Blackberry to an iPhone. Unfortunately I’ve had to replace my center screen already but I’m still in love with the car.

  • @KimCJorgensen
    @KimCJorgensen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good review but you didn't cover any of the underpinnings. What's different underneath; brakes, suspension, steering, front/rear castings, battery type and so on. The rest we can all see.
    The lack of leg support in the back seat you skipped over completely, that surprised me a lot as it's quite shockingly poor. I have no idea why this wasn't fixed during the remake, but maybe Monroe will let us know.
    The space in the back behind a 6'-5" front passenger is a bit mute as he can move the seat slightly forward without ruining his comfort, but point taken.
    Nice car, definitely my favorite Tesla. Long Range all day long.

  • @dr-ok3sn
    @dr-ok3sn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    19:02 - they are definitely not adaptive headlights, they only have a corner function, something cars already had in 1980. they are never going to be like european adaptive headlights

    • @bayes1124
      @bayes1124 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As far as I know, adaptive headlights are not allowed in the US. However, the new Model 3 and Model Y headlights can technically be adaptive, but no software has been written for them yet.

    • @JohnnyZenith
      @JohnnyZenith 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Superior headlights on cars even much cheaper. The US regulators are dinosaurs.

    • @SIMPLETRUTHS2012
      @SIMPLETRUTHS2012 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cadillac CTS-V had true adaptive (rotating) headlights back in 2013.

  • @florenciovela7570
    @florenciovela7570 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    update, we love your show & spacex. we just got our S dual motor fsd while the tri/4? motor fsd cybertruck gets here. i'm all in TSLA & i love all Elon Musk does & will keep doing..we've drove from California to Boca Chica to see the Star Ship & it was so awesome to see it getting built in person!! we have LOTS of SOLAR & backup battery system to charge them both

  • @pslawing
    @pslawing 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! You answered a lot of questions we all are having about ordering this car. Can you keep the backup camera on while driving? I love that in my 17 S!
    And do you find that the steering wheel buttons are hard to find, or press them by mistake while turning wheel ?

    • @jon4lakers
      @jon4lakers  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes you can on camera and yes for buttons. I imagine muscle memory will kick in eventually though.

    • @pslawing
      @pslawing 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jon4lakers I'm sure you saw Marques Brownlee review. The buttons where really the only negative about the car. Thank you for replying!! Awesome

  • @soota6083
    @soota6083 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you ever figure out if you could connect headphones for the back seats forthwith kids to watch movies and play music up front?

  • @noamharel4075
    @noamharel4075 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s not a wheel as anyone who knows geography will know that means a full circle. It’s a steering yoke.

  • @themiguelpt91
    @themiguelpt91 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When rotating the wheel did you accidentally activate any of the touch buttons?

    • @jon4lakers
      @jon4lakers  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t believe so.

  • @ndcendee
    @ndcendee 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    AWESOME vid Jon, thanks for putting this together! Have been waiting for someone to really celebrate the MS LR since MS Plaid is getting all the buzz...What tint % did you do on your ride? I'm about to do my '21 Long Range S, yours looks perfect!

    • @jon4lakers
      @jon4lakers  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s stock!

    • @ndcendee
      @ndcendee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Model S doesn’t come with tinted windows stock.

  • @gride5153
    @gride5153 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great detailed review

  • @jasoningram9928
    @jasoningram9928 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good fair review. Well done!

  • @michaelrocks1529
    @michaelrocks1529 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Phenomenal review

  • @Mr_Battlefield
    @Mr_Battlefield 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jon you didn't put up the tweet from Elon stating that the model 3 & the model y is going to get auto shift in the video. The image only shows talks about the Model S.

  • @sa34w
    @sa34w 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's friggin beautiful, I feel like all of the German cars feels outdated now. I hope someday I can buy this beauty.

  • @hesigutjo
    @hesigutjo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not a great driving wheel... But such a nice (and expensive) car

  • @RobinSingh-lf3iq
    @RobinSingh-lf3iq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Jon, that was an amazing and very thorough and impressive review of the new LongRange Model S. Just what I was looking for, as a first time viewer to your channel, this is awesome!

  • @Mamo878
    @Mamo878 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty lame that the rear screen and audio cannot be completely independent from the front. Heck, even you mom's 15 year-old minivan can do that.
    But maybe they can fix that with a software update.

  • @hummerchine
    @hummerchine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yer really good Jon!
    I guess that’s why I subscribe:D

  • @juanmedinar20
    @juanmedinar20 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    how is the space on the rear of the new model S compared to a Model 3?

    • @jon4lakers
      @jon4lakers  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It felt really small to me.

    • @juanmedinar20
      @juanmedinar20 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jon4lakers so you are saying that it has less leg room on the rear than the Model 3?

    • @jon4lakers
      @jon4lakers  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@juanmedinar20 Cany say for certain, just how it felt to me.

  • @looods
    @looods 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really great overview! I know what my decision is!

    • @jon4lakers
      @jon4lakers  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dude!!!! Going Plaid????

  • @Chris21709
    @Chris21709 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are the rotors in the long-range motors also wrapped in carbon fiber? What do the standard wheels look like under the aero covers?

    • @JohnnyZenith
      @JohnnyZenith 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. They are for the Plaid.

  • @fiercemillionaireproject3824
    @fiercemillionaireproject3824 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hate the steering wheel. Test drove one last week.

  • @the360gaming5
    @the360gaming5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing video

  • @radfree9370
    @radfree9370 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a way to make the drivers display light mode?

    • @JetFire9
      @JetFire9 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. Would look weird.