HUGE JACOB TROUBA TRADE TO THE DETROIT RED WINGS? JUSTIN HOLL TO THE NEW YORK RANGERS? NHL Rumours

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    We're talking about an idea proposed on The Athletic of the Detroit Red Wings acquiring New York Rangers captain Jacob Trouba for Justin Holl.
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  • @ethanbrown8132
    @ethanbrown8132 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    the red wings picking up trouba’s contract would eat up cap space and slow down the rebuild, while simultaneously making them no better than they already were. at best.
    the rangers would probably have to throw in a first for the wings to even consider such a thing.
    it’s not the red wings’ job to help other clubs clean up their messes.

    • @user-eo4wz2fz7d
      @user-eo4wz2fz7d 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That’s what I’m saying if anyone with cap gets traded they should do a three way deal get a team two take cap give a first or second while doing a one for one it helps the team getting rid of cap but also bring in a guy to replace him

    • @kirthellmuth9766
      @kirthellmuth9766 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      rebuild year 6? get to playoff's other than Sieder or Raymond , none of Steve's picks here (rebuild?), poor, poor signigs Copp, Holl, Chariot....like he making desperate signs, The Wings died without Larkin last year, If we had Trouba I don't think that happen.... Got to do something, what's being done isn't working

    • @timetowakeup6302
      @timetowakeup6302 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m a rangers fan. Trouba is a DISASTER

    • @user-qs5mr1iw5c
      @user-qs5mr1iw5c หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also, Jacob T has places in a no trade contract he won't go. His wife is doing her Dr residency and he doesn't want to leave. Why would Detroit sign a player that would not report and be stuck with his contract.

  • @michaels7134
    @michaels7134 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    If the Rangers turned around and extended Shesterkin with that $8 mill, there isn't a Ranger fan alive that would miss Trouba.

    • @MrPhilionaire
      @MrPhilionaire 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Give Shesty the unofficial captaincy while they're at it a la Roberto Luongo lol.

    • @chairman4953
      @chairman4953 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Throw Miller in that trade too

    • @de-fault_de-fault
      @de-fault_de-fault 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@chairman4953Miller’s play will improve when he’s not stuck with Trouba. We’ve already seen glimpses of that. The are garbage together but there’s a certain kind of D who can’t pass, skate, shoot, or even just hit somebody without completely erasing himself from the play, and yet carries a “shut down” reputation anyway, and that’s Trouba. And the partner of a guy like that always gets dragged down.

  • @StickinAroundHockey
    @StickinAroundHockey 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Walman, Seider
    Edvinsson, Trouba (+8m)
    Johansson, Chiarot
    Petry
    Trade away Holl (-3.4m), Maata (-3m)
    Net = -1.6m in cap space
    Chiarot and Trouba Contracts will be done in 2 years, which is enough time for ASP to be ready to slot into one of those RD spots
    Hmmm...

    • @StickinAroundHockey
      @StickinAroundHockey 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Wonder if Kaako can be thrown into this deal

    • @jtstyles100
      @jtstyles100 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Trade petry. Keep maatta

    • @jacoblaurain8911
      @jacoblaurain8911 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      This is the way

    • @a.N.....
      @a.N..... 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      as much as i dont like oli maata i dont think we should trade him. holl and petry though be gone!

    • @StickinAroundHockey
      @StickinAroundHockey 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @a.N..... Maata is the only one without an M-NTC so he is the easiest to trade I think

  • @gregorybaggio
    @gregorybaggio 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I trust Yzerman. Whether he does something gutsy or not, he's always well thought out in his moves.

  • @roostercogburn5005
    @roostercogburn5005 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    So, in other words, this is precisely whst womt happen because its on this channel.

  • @JustaComment93
    @JustaComment93 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Terrible. Please don’t. We freed up cap space. We have about 12 million. That’s enough to sign a superstar like Guentzel or get Kane back….. don’t dump Trouba. Trouba is overpaid sure but my God he’s a great defensive player when he plays his game right. Okay some shots bounced off his leg into the net I mean it happens and it’s not his fault. He can fix and work on his game. Let’s not jump ship on our captain here. I say keep Trouba.

    • @jakerux6092
      @jakerux6092 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep. Get a top-6 F (w/ 70+ pt potential) over an overpaid, middle of the lineup D.

  • @americanadreaming
    @americanadreaming 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Copp and Holl for Trouba straight up.

    • @crossface222
      @crossface222 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      If they’ll take both contracts? Hell yeah!

    • @garyvandecar2580
      @garyvandecar2580 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm pretty sure Copp put the NYR on his 10 team no trade list. Copp wants no part of the Rangers.

    • @davidkruse4030
      @davidkruse4030 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@garyvandecar2580why

    • @nicholasicon
      @nicholasicon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agree, but im pretty sure copp wouldnt agree lol

    • @williamaaron8177
      @williamaaron8177 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      4:28

  • @davids9520
    @davids9520 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Turn Trouba into a fourth line winger on the Red Wings? If Stevie Y can fit him under the cap. Give it a shot! A team captain? You never know, it might work. Probably won't happen.

  • @p.rick12
    @p.rick12 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Wasn't Trouba playing through a fracture on his foot?

    • @frankt285
      @frankt285 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Broken ankle....😮😮😮😮

  • @stevenbauer4799
    @stevenbauer4799 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    trouba too costly with raymond/seider deals coming.

  • @Zypemaytro
    @Zypemaytro 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think this can be a really good trade for Detroit if they give up the right amount.

  • @0shark096
    @0shark096 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Trouba is one of the very few players that in a trade for Holl the other team would have to add to even the trade.
    There are so many better options than to take this one.

  • @gsullivan3262
    @gsullivan3262 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    what's with you guys anyway, Trouba had a broken ankle!

    • @goldenspatian517
      @goldenspatian517 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He’s still trash bro

    • @JustaComment93
      @JustaComment93 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@goldenspatian517 people like you are the problem. Trouba was fine. It’s a team game. You’re acting like he’s the sole reason the rangers lost. Gtfoh

  • @seanorr2003
    @seanorr2003 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This a joke that never going happen why do you report this stuff

  • @johnr8426
    @johnr8426 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think the Rangers would do this in a second, even if they had to eat 25%, and I see no reason to not keep Holl as a 3rd pair option... sure he's a little expensive, but the guy has been a plus player his entire career, used to play 20+ mins a game for the Leafs, is pretty big, and a change of scenery may do him good. The Rangers would still add $3 Million to the cap in doing it, would be able to name Trocheck team captain, and be in much better shape, cap-wise, for the 25-26 season when Igor and Laffs current deals end. I can't think of nearly as many reason why the Wings would do it however.... unless they think Trouba will add a lot in the room.... which he will, but $6 Million worth?

  • @ramonleclerc5060
    @ramonleclerc5060 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hope Stevie Y loves Tuoba and take him

  • @nottomboyd
    @nottomboyd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Columbus has Laine and some decent draft spots and we would love Trouba in union blue

  • @Woody10719
    @Woody10719 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would do this in a heart beat as a wings fan. they are both over paid, but Trouba can actually do something. They both have 2 years remaining.. trade a guy that doesn't play for a guy that plays 20 minutes a night, with plenty of playoff experience and isn't afraid of anyone sign me up.

  • @thewizardofoz511
    @thewizardofoz511 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Stevie isn't going for him.. end of story.. buyout is for team's in rebuild mode.. this would make sense for Montreal or Columbus..

  • @rwsaldrich
    @rwsaldrich 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Wings don't need him

    • @user-eo4wz2fz7d
      @user-eo4wz2fz7d 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ya but take cap to get a first or second and bring in a team that will do a one for one it helps wings while not bring him in

  • @robertosanchez1759
    @robertosanchez1759 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Truba’s feelings don’t matter. He’s overpaid and if the Rangers can add by subtraction they need to make this trade. I’ll drive Truba to the airport myself

  • @vmi4172
    @vmi4172 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This makes no sense. Trouba is Holl 1.0 but cost $5M more a season. NYR would have to retain a ridiculous amount, throw in a first round pick and take Copp back with them too. If Detroit can immediately buy him out, which nobody really wants that kind of liability on the books, than getting a first and ridding the Holl and Copp contracts would be a nice deal🤷‍♂ I still cant believe SY gave Holl $10M🤦‍♂

  • @nutronik9
    @nutronik9 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't see how this moves the wings forward if its just holl for trouba with trouba salary retained

  • @nicholasicon
    @nicholasicon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pleeeeeease i want trouba on the wings team. Seems like they want local kids so makes sense. But that AAV is crazy for him.

  • @davidhernandez9985
    @davidhernandez9985 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Draft "UM D-Josh Eerisse" since the Rangers will be at the bottom of the totem poll in next week's draft. Eerinsse is a big scorer because Chris Crider has been through the NHL wars. Chris Drury has to make profound changes to tinker with the team; some don't break up. Drury has a personal player cleaning up. LetsGoRangers🤘🏼!

  • @anthonygermain212
    @anthonygermain212 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Kappa Kakko Jacob Truba 3.5 mil retained and chytil Stevie make it happen

  • @camh9800
    @camh9800 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I highly doubt this would ever happen. Unless we are talking about the Rangers adding possible picks or a good prospect or young player no clue why Steve would even pick up the phone.

  • @joebrennan842
    @joebrennan842 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’d take Trouba on a cheap deal and holl is absolute trash wouldn’t miss him at all.

  • @Unscheduledsandwich
    @Unscheduledsandwich 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My dude ASP is like two or three years away. He’s stepping in front of Wallander Johansson sheesh man do a little research at least

  • @EricTheShowKiller
    @EricTheShowKiller 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder if the rangers could give up some assets (maybe draft capital and or prospects) to get a team to eat trouba contract.

  • @de-fault_de-fault
    @de-fault_de-fault 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Trouba has spent most of his time with the Rangers playing the way Dan Girardi did in the years when Ryan McDonagh would be Weekend-at-Bernie’s-ing him around every shift. Whoever partners Trouba immediately gets worse. As captain his greatest display of leadership was throwing his helmet in December 2022 because he was out of ideas. Oh and unlike the broken version of Girardi, Trouba also takes horrible penalties. I don’t know how Drury cons anybody into taking him but I’d be fine getting most of his cap hit off the books even if we get a bag of practice pucks back. The contract was a mistake, and doubling down by making him captain was a mistake. His paintings are kind of cool though, no joke. Learning about them made me slightly more patient with him, so imagine how I would sound if he didn’t do the paintings.

  • @TrevWire
    @TrevWire 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The area Wings could use some toughness, and I’m sure most would agree, and Trouba has that in spades, however that’s where the conversation ends for me. As much as I think Holl needs to go, there’s no way I would have Trouba on my team for even half that salary. A third of the guys plays have to be reviewed to see if they’re dirty and he’s either under a microscope or doesn’t show up at all. No thank you. I’d say if they can do a deal where AT LEAST half that salary is retained, ideally more, then I’m a little more inclined to hear them out. The wings already have a log jam at defense for the foreseeable future. Why don’t they hit up Utah.

  • @500stoney
    @500stoney 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely ridiculous idea for the Red Wings. Wouldn’t put it past Yzerman though

  • @jackconrad2667
    @jackconrad2667 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Trouba would require the rangers to take a big hit to unload him to the wings. They are better off sending him to San Jose. They would need to take holl and 50 percent salary retained. Maybe more. It would be a bad trade for both parties.

  • @CaryG6666
    @CaryG6666 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Trouba must go. And NO to Kane. Another softie dipsy-doodler is exactly what the Rangers don’t need. Trouba was a liability before the fractured ankle or whatever it was. Props to him for playing thru it, but facts are facts.

  • @mikemilo7371
    @mikemilo7371 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If I were Yzerman, I'd swap Ben Chiarot instead of Holl. Throw in a conditional pick, have NY retain 35-50 % salary, then buyout or trade Holl to a team needing to get up to the cap floor.

    • @jackconrad2667
      @jackconrad2667 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Chiarot played half decent last year. Def not a great contract but I’m ok with det keeping him.

    • @davidkruse4030
      @davidkruse4030 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Truba sucks. I watched him in the playoffs. Bad penalties and slow

  • @joebagodonuts3040
    @joebagodonuts3040 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A bag of pucks and you can have Trouba

  • @aepochbrett
    @aepochbrett 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We need grit but not that kind of grit or price. If we pick up Truba and dont re-sign Kane I will be livid.

  • @chewbacca1961
    @chewbacca1961 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want the Wings to get rid of Justin Holl. I do not want them to get rid of Justin Holl that badly. Trouba is not welcome in Detroit, dude is insanely dirty.

  • @noahpetherbridge5127
    @noahpetherbridge5127 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not happening

  • @edenisburning
    @edenisburning 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This makes zero sense from a Detroit perspective. They'd take on more salary to move a guy (Holl) they're already trying to dump.. just to get a guy (Trouba) they don't need. So yeah.. this idea is silly.

  • @BillyAu
    @BillyAu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    His a big hitting defenseman worth about half of what he's getting! Takes so many bad penalties and gives away the puck too easily. Good luck 😅

  • @TheLegend21D
    @TheLegend21D 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Trouba has gotta go, I don’t really know how realistic it is to have it be beautiful send off.

  • @grantpage778
    @grantpage778 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Whole roster gon b from Michigan😭😭😭

    • @Zypemaytro
      @Zypemaytro 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      At least they will want to win for MI

    • @StickinAroundHockey
      @StickinAroundHockey 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Would be kind of cool ngl

  • @garyvandecar2580
    @garyvandecar2580 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    LOL No thanks on Trouba, I'd rather have Aaron Ekblad if the Panthers were forced to trade him.

    • @boxingfan5555
      @boxingfan5555 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      please take trouba!!! we dont want him on the team anymore!!!

  • @Mike-ix5sv
    @Mike-ix5sv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Buisness is ruthless, and feelings should never be considered. Feelings are why Toronto is in its current state with marner. If it weren't for feelings, Toronto woulda made a marner trade 2 years ago, be in a better spot and leafs fans would have an entirely new story/player to whine about.

    • @dack400
      @dack400 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah get rid of marner, then find a new scapegoat next season 😂.

  • @caylenking5222
    @caylenking5222 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m commenting now before I really get into this video but this sounds like a huge lose/lose type trade

  • @MrLookatthesizeofit
    @MrLookatthesizeofit 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was a waste of time

  • @killgil1322
    @killgil1322 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s a business to get the best players and win.

  • @TheUtube53
    @TheUtube53 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Newsy would make Trouba a healthy scratch.

  • @simonfahima3488
    @simonfahima3488 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes please let him walk for free

  • @brianwarington
    @brianwarington 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pick up zardina from Canucks for that amount of $. Would be a much better player and fit

    • @brianwarington
      @brianwarington 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Zadorov my mistake on name

    • @tedgra
      @tedgra 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      👍Zadorov is exactly the defender that Red Wings need!
      Pair him with Edvinsson!

  • @scottmclaughlin3083
    @scottmclaughlin3083 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Stupid idea, we have Edvinson and Johansson coming up this season

    • @krimsonshadow94
      @krimsonshadow94 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly

    • @boxingfan5555
      @boxingfan5555 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      please take trouba off our hands, we dont want him!!

    • @krimsonshadow94
      @krimsonshadow94 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@boxingfan5555 dont you put that evil on me Ricky Bobby

    • @boxingfan5555
      @boxingfan5555 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@krimsonshadow94 ill give you trouba and a prospect, we dont want him anymore

    • @krimsonshadow94
      @krimsonshadow94 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@boxingfan5555 I mean we got prospects already, unless you guys take Copp or Holl, I cant see hows its worth it

  • @jamesklinski3890
    @jamesklinski3890 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's not gonna happen

  • @williamaaron8177
    @williamaaron8177 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just what the Wings need. More overpriced bums.

  • @Tyler-ml6ip
    @Tyler-ml6ip 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wings should do it

  • @jacobbarnes3739
    @jacobbarnes3739 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yay we need a new Lindstrom

  • @nadaduo1765
    @nadaduo1765 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    yzerclown cooking up another disaster 😂

    • @jonathanlong4066
      @jonathanlong4066 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's not an argument

    • @nadaduo1765
      @nadaduo1765 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jonathanlong4066 it's not supposed to be an argument lol

    • @jonathanlong4066
      @jonathanlong4066 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nadaduo1765 Thanks for admitting your comment is worthless. 👍

    • @nadaduo1765
      @nadaduo1765 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jonathanlong4066 I didn't, can't you read or something ? lol

    • @jonathanlong4066
      @jonathanlong4066 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nadaduo1765 That's a deflection. Sooooo not an argument.
      Try again

  • @user-sw3ki2kk9s
    @user-sw3ki2kk9s 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is this even possible?

  • @g0ec
    @g0ec 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    dont play w my heart like this

  • @chucklangworthy4118
    @chucklangworthy4118 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a mindless discussion 😂

  • @JustaComment93
    @JustaComment93 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Terrible. Please don’t. We freed up cap space. We have about 12 million. That’s enough to sign a superstar like Guentzel or get Kane back….. don’t dump Trouba. Trouba is overpaid sure but my God he’s a great defensive player when he plays his game right. Okay some shots bounced off his leg into the net I mean it happens and it’s not his fault. He can fix and work on his game. Let’s not jump ship on our captain here. I say keep Trouba.