the red wings picking up trouba’s contract would eat up cap space and slow down the rebuild, while simultaneously making them no better than they already were. at best. the rangers would probably have to throw in a first for the wings to even consider such a thing. it’s not the red wings’ job to help other clubs clean up their messes.
That’s what I’m saying if anyone with cap gets traded they should do a three way deal get a team two take cap give a first or second while doing a one for one it helps the team getting rid of cap but also bring in a guy to replace him
rebuild year 6? get to playoff's other than Sieder or Raymond , none of Steve's picks here (rebuild?), poor, poor signigs Copp, Holl, Chariot....like he making desperate signs, The Wings died without Larkin last year, If we had Trouba I don't think that happen.... Got to do something, what's being done isn't working
Also, Jacob T has places in a no trade contract he won't go. His wife is doing her Dr residency and he doesn't want to leave. Why would Detroit sign a player that would not report and be stuck with his contract.
@@chairman4953Miller’s play will improve when he’s not stuck with Trouba. We’ve already seen glimpses of that. The are garbage together but there’s a certain kind of D who can’t pass, skate, shoot, or even just hit somebody without completely erasing himself from the play, and yet carries a “shut down” reputation anyway, and that’s Trouba. And the partner of a guy like that always gets dragged down.
Walman, Seider Edvinsson, Trouba (+8m) Johansson, Chiarot Petry Trade away Holl (-3.4m), Maata (-3m) Net = -1.6m in cap space Chiarot and Trouba Contracts will be done in 2 years, which is enough time for ASP to be ready to slot into one of those RD spots Hmmm...
Turn Trouba into a fourth line winger on the Red Wings? If Stevie Y can fit him under the cap. Give it a shot! A team captain? You never know, it might work. Probably won't happen.
Trouba is one of the very few players that in a trade for Holl the other team would have to add to even the trade. There are so many better options than to take this one.
I think the Rangers would do this in a second, even if they had to eat 25%, and I see no reason to not keep Holl as a 3rd pair option... sure he's a little expensive, but the guy has been a plus player his entire career, used to play 20+ mins a game for the Leafs, is pretty big, and a change of scenery may do him good. The Rangers would still add $3 Million to the cap in doing it, would be able to name Trocheck team captain, and be in much better shape, cap-wise, for the 25-26 season when Igor and Laffs current deals end. I can't think of nearly as many reason why the Wings would do it however.... unless they think Trouba will add a lot in the room.... which he will, but $6 Million worth?
I would do this in a heart beat as a wings fan. they are both over paid, but Trouba can actually do something. They both have 2 years remaining.. trade a guy that doesn't play for a guy that plays 20 minutes a night, with plenty of playoff experience and isn't afraid of anyone sign me up.
Terrible. Please don’t. We freed up cap space. We have about 12 million. That’s enough to sign a superstar like Guentzel or get Kane back….. don’t dump Trouba. Trouba is overpaid sure but my God he’s a great defensive player when he plays his game right. Okay some shots bounced off his leg into the net I mean it happens and it’s not his fault. He can fix and work on his game. Let’s not jump ship on our captain here. I say keep Trouba.
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I highly doubt this would ever happen. Unless we are talking about the Rangers adding possible picks or a good prospect or young player no clue why Steve would even pick up the phone.
This makes no sense. Trouba is Holl 1.0 but cost $5M more a season. NYR would have to retain a ridiculous amount, throw in a first round pick and take Copp back with them too. If Detroit can immediately buy him out, which nobody really wants that kind of liability on the books, than getting a first and ridding the Holl and Copp contracts would be a nice deal🤷♂ I still cant believe SY gave Holl $10M🤦♂
The area Wings could use some toughness, and I’m sure most would agree, and Trouba has that in spades, however that’s where the conversation ends for me. As much as I think Holl needs to go, there’s no way I would have Trouba on my team for even half that salary. A third of the guys plays have to be reviewed to see if they’re dirty and he’s either under a microscope or doesn’t show up at all. No thank you. I’d say if they can do a deal where AT LEAST half that salary is retained, ideally more, then I’m a little more inclined to hear them out. The wings already have a log jam at defense for the foreseeable future. Why don’t they hit up Utah.
Trouba would require the rangers to take a big hit to unload him to the wings. They are better off sending him to San Jose. They would need to take holl and 50 percent salary retained. Maybe more. It would be a bad trade for both parties.
Trouba has spent most of his time with the Rangers playing the way Dan Girardi did in the years when Ryan McDonagh would be Weekend-at-Bernie’s-ing him around every shift. Whoever partners Trouba immediately gets worse. As captain his greatest display of leadership was throwing his helmet in December 2022 because he was out of ideas. Oh and unlike the broken version of Girardi, Trouba also takes horrible penalties. I don’t know how Drury cons anybody into taking him but I’d be fine getting most of his cap hit off the books even if we get a bag of practice pucks back. The contract was a mistake, and doubling down by making him captain was a mistake. His paintings are kind of cool though, no joke. Learning about them made me slightly more patient with him, so imagine how I would sound if he didn’t do the paintings.
Truba’s feelings don’t matter. He’s overpaid and if the Rangers can add by subtraction they need to make this trade. I’ll drive Truba to the airport myself
If I were Yzerman, I'd swap Ben Chiarot instead of Holl. Throw in a conditional pick, have NY retain 35-50 % salary, then buyout or trade Holl to a team needing to get up to the cap floor.
I want the Wings to get rid of Justin Holl. I do not want them to get rid of Justin Holl that badly. Trouba is not welcome in Detroit, dude is insanely dirty.
Buisness is ruthless, and feelings should never be considered. Feelings are why Toronto is in its current state with marner. If it weren't for feelings, Toronto woulda made a marner trade 2 years ago, be in a better spot and leafs fans would have an entirely new story/player to whine about.
This makes zero sense from a Detroit perspective. They'd take on more salary to move a guy (Holl) they're already trying to dump.. just to get a guy (Trouba) they don't need. So yeah.. this idea is silly.
Trouba must go. And NO to Kane. Another softie dipsy-doodler is exactly what the Rangers don’t need. Trouba was a liability before the fractured ankle or whatever it was. Props to him for playing thru it, but facts are facts.
Terrible. Please don’t. We freed up cap space. We have about 12 million. That’s enough to sign a superstar like Guentzel or get Kane back….. don’t dump Trouba. Trouba is overpaid sure but my God he’s a great defensive player when he plays his game right. Okay some shots bounced off his leg into the net I mean it happens and it’s not his fault. He can fix and work on his game. Let’s not jump ship on our captain here. I say keep Trouba.
the red wings picking up trouba’s contract would eat up cap space and slow down the rebuild, while simultaneously making them no better than they already were. at best.
the rangers would probably have to throw in a first for the wings to even consider such a thing.
it’s not the red wings’ job to help other clubs clean up their messes.
That’s what I’m saying if anyone with cap gets traded they should do a three way deal get a team two take cap give a first or second while doing a one for one it helps the team getting rid of cap but also bring in a guy to replace him
rebuild year 6? get to playoff's other than Sieder or Raymond , none of Steve's picks here (rebuild?), poor, poor signigs Copp, Holl, Chariot....like he making desperate signs, The Wings died without Larkin last year, If we had Trouba I don't think that happen.... Got to do something, what's being done isn't working
I’m a rangers fan. Trouba is a DISASTER
Also, Jacob T has places in a no trade contract he won't go. His wife is doing her Dr residency and he doesn't want to leave. Why would Detroit sign a player that would not report and be stuck with his contract.
If the Rangers turned around and extended Shesterkin with that $8 mill, there isn't a Ranger fan alive that would miss Trouba.
Give Shesty the unofficial captaincy while they're at it a la Roberto Luongo lol.
Throw Miller in that trade too
@@chairman4953Miller’s play will improve when he’s not stuck with Trouba. We’ve already seen glimpses of that. The are garbage together but there’s a certain kind of D who can’t pass, skate, shoot, or even just hit somebody without completely erasing himself from the play, and yet carries a “shut down” reputation anyway, and that’s Trouba. And the partner of a guy like that always gets dragged down.
Walman, Seider
Edvinsson, Trouba (+8m)
Johansson, Chiarot
Petry
Trade away Holl (-3.4m), Maata (-3m)
Net = -1.6m in cap space
Chiarot and Trouba Contracts will be done in 2 years, which is enough time for ASP to be ready to slot into one of those RD spots
Hmmm...
Wonder if Kaako can be thrown into this deal
Trade petry. Keep maatta
This is the way
as much as i dont like oli maata i dont think we should trade him. holl and petry though be gone!
@a.N..... Maata is the only one without an M-NTC so he is the easiest to trade I think
I trust Yzerman. Whether he does something gutsy or not, he's always well thought out in his moves.
So, in other words, this is precisely whst womt happen because its on this channel.
Wasn't Trouba playing through a fracture on his foot?
Broken ankle....😮😮😮😮
I think this can be a really good trade for Detroit if they give up the right amount.
Turn Trouba into a fourth line winger on the Red Wings? If Stevie Y can fit him under the cap. Give it a shot! A team captain? You never know, it might work. Probably won't happen.
Trouba is one of the very few players that in a trade for Holl the other team would have to add to even the trade.
There are so many better options than to take this one.
Kaako?
I hope Stevie Y loves Tuoba and take him
trouba too costly with raymond/seider deals coming.
what's with you guys anyway, Trouba had a broken ankle!
He’s still trash bro
@@goldenspatian517 people like you are the problem. Trouba was fine. It’s a team game. You’re acting like he’s the sole reason the rangers lost. Gtfoh
I think the Rangers would do this in a second, even if they had to eat 25%, and I see no reason to not keep Holl as a 3rd pair option... sure he's a little expensive, but the guy has been a plus player his entire career, used to play 20+ mins a game for the Leafs, is pretty big, and a change of scenery may do him good. The Rangers would still add $3 Million to the cap in doing it, would be able to name Trocheck team captain, and be in much better shape, cap-wise, for the 25-26 season when Igor and Laffs current deals end. I can't think of nearly as many reason why the Wings would do it however.... unless they think Trouba will add a lot in the room.... which he will, but $6 Million worth?
Columbus has Laine and some decent draft spots and we would love Trouba in union blue
I would do this in a heart beat as a wings fan. they are both over paid, but Trouba can actually do something. They both have 2 years remaining.. trade a guy that doesn't play for a guy that plays 20 minutes a night, with plenty of playoff experience and isn't afraid of anyone sign me up.
Terrible. Please don’t. We freed up cap space. We have about 12 million. That’s enough to sign a superstar like Guentzel or get Kane back….. don’t dump Trouba. Trouba is overpaid sure but my God he’s a great defensive player when he plays his game right. Okay some shots bounced off his leg into the net I mean it happens and it’s not his fault. He can fix and work on his game. Let’s not jump ship on our captain here. I say keep Trouba.
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I don't see how this moves the wings forward if its just holl for trouba with trouba salary retained
I wonder if the rangers could give up some assets (maybe draft capital and or prospects) to get a team to eat trouba contract.
This a joke that never going happen why do you report this stuff
I highly doubt this would ever happen. Unless we are talking about the Rangers adding possible picks or a good prospect or young player no clue why Steve would even pick up the phone.
Pleeeeeease i want trouba on the wings team. Seems like they want local kids so makes sense. But that AAV is crazy for him.
This makes no sense. Trouba is Holl 1.0 but cost $5M more a season. NYR would have to retain a ridiculous amount, throw in a first round pick and take Copp back with them too. If Detroit can immediately buy him out, which nobody really wants that kind of liability on the books, than getting a first and ridding the Holl and Copp contracts would be a nice deal🤷♂ I still cant believe SY gave Holl $10M🤦♂
The area Wings could use some toughness, and I’m sure most would agree, and Trouba has that in spades, however that’s where the conversation ends for me. As much as I think Holl needs to go, there’s no way I would have Trouba on my team for even half that salary. A third of the guys plays have to be reviewed to see if they’re dirty and he’s either under a microscope or doesn’t show up at all. No thank you. I’d say if they can do a deal where AT LEAST half that salary is retained, ideally more, then I’m a little more inclined to hear them out. The wings already have a log jam at defense for the foreseeable future. Why don’t they hit up Utah.
We need grit but not that kind of grit or price. If we pick up Truba and dont re-sign Kane I will be livid.
Stevie isn't going for him.. end of story.. buyout is for team's in rebuild mode.. this would make sense for Montreal or Columbus..
Trouba would require the rangers to take a big hit to unload him to the wings. They are better off sending him to San Jose. They would need to take holl and 50 percent salary retained. Maybe more. It would be a bad trade for both parties.
Trouba has spent most of his time with the Rangers playing the way Dan Girardi did in the years when Ryan McDonagh would be Weekend-at-Bernie’s-ing him around every shift. Whoever partners Trouba immediately gets worse. As captain his greatest display of leadership was throwing his helmet in December 2022 because he was out of ideas. Oh and unlike the broken version of Girardi, Trouba also takes horrible penalties. I don’t know how Drury cons anybody into taking him but I’d be fine getting most of his cap hit off the books even if we get a bag of practice pucks back. The contract was a mistake, and doubling down by making him captain was a mistake. His paintings are kind of cool though, no joke. Learning about them made me slightly more patient with him, so imagine how I would sound if he didn’t do the paintings.
My dude ASP is like two or three years away. He’s stepping in front of Wallander Johansson sheesh man do a little research at least
Wings don't need him
Ya but take cap to get a first or second and bring in a team that will do a one for one it helps wings while not bring him in
Truba’s feelings don’t matter. He’s overpaid and if the Rangers can add by subtraction they need to make this trade. I’ll drive Truba to the airport myself
If I were Yzerman, I'd swap Ben Chiarot instead of Holl. Throw in a conditional pick, have NY retain 35-50 % salary, then buyout or trade Holl to a team needing to get up to the cap floor.
Chiarot played half decent last year. Def not a great contract but I’m ok with det keeping him.
Truba sucks. I watched him in the playoffs. Bad penalties and slow
I’d take Trouba on a cheap deal and holl is absolute trash wouldn’t miss him at all.
A bag of pucks and you can have Trouba
His a big hitting defenseman worth about half of what he's getting! Takes so many bad penalties and gives away the puck too easily. Good luck 😅
It’s a business to get the best players and win.
I want the Wings to get rid of Justin Holl. I do not want them to get rid of Justin Holl that badly. Trouba is not welcome in Detroit, dude is insanely dirty.
Buisness is ruthless, and feelings should never be considered. Feelings are why Toronto is in its current state with marner. If it weren't for feelings, Toronto woulda made a marner trade 2 years ago, be in a better spot and leafs fans would have an entirely new story/player to whine about.
Yeah get rid of marner, then find a new scapegoat next season 😂.
Trouba has gotta go, I don’t really know how realistic it is to have it be beautiful send off.
Kappa Kakko Jacob Truba 3.5 mil retained and chytil Stevie make it happen
Absolutely ridiculous idea for the Red Wings. Wouldn’t put it past Yzerman though
Newsy would make Trouba a healthy scratch.
Yes please let him walk for free
I’m commenting now before I really get into this video but this sounds like a huge lose/lose type trade
This makes zero sense from a Detroit perspective. They'd take on more salary to move a guy (Holl) they're already trying to dump.. just to get a guy (Trouba) they don't need. So yeah.. this idea is silly.
Whole roster gon b from Michigan😭😭😭
At least they will want to win for MI
Would be kind of cool ngl
LOL No thanks on Trouba, I'd rather have Aaron Ekblad if the Panthers were forced to trade him.
please take trouba!!! we dont want him on the team anymore!!!
Trouba must go. And NO to Kane. Another softie dipsy-doodler is exactly what the Rangers don’t need. Trouba was a liability before the fractured ankle or whatever it was. Props to him for playing thru it, but facts are facts.
Pick up zardina from Canucks for that amount of $. Would be a much better player and fit
Zadorov my mistake on name
👍Zadorov is exactly the defender that Red Wings need!
Pair him with Edvinsson!
Not happening
This was a waste of time
Stupid idea, we have Edvinson and Johansson coming up this season
Exactly
please take trouba off our hands, we dont want him!!
@@boxingfan5555 dont you put that evil on me Ricky Bobby
@@krimsonshadow94 ill give you trouba and a prospect, we dont want him anymore
@@boxingfan5555 I mean we got prospects already, unless you guys take Copp or Holl, I cant see hows its worth it
It's not gonna happen
Wings should do it
Is this even possible?
Just what the Wings need. More overpriced bums.
Yay we need a new Lindstrom
yzerclown cooking up another disaster 😂
That's not an argument
@@jonathanlong4066 it's not supposed to be an argument lol
@@nadaduo1765 Thanks for admitting your comment is worthless. 👍
@@jonathanlong4066 I didn't, can't you read or something ? lol
@@nadaduo1765 That's a deflection. Sooooo not an argument.
Try again
dont play w my heart like this
This is a mindless discussion 😂
Terrible. Please don’t. We freed up cap space. We have about 12 million. That’s enough to sign a superstar like Guentzel or get Kane back….. don’t dump Trouba. Trouba is overpaid sure but my God he’s a great defensive player when he plays his game right. Okay some shots bounced off his leg into the net I mean it happens and it’s not his fault. He can fix and work on his game. Let’s not jump ship on our captain here. I say keep Trouba.
Yep. Get a top-6 F (w/ 70+ pt potential) over an overpaid, middle of the lineup D.