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- This is a question I have gotten from a lot of people. So I guess there is a demand for this kind of video. Also, let's do a box opening of the Dragon shield double inner sleeve full edge protection.
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Admit it. You made this vid to show off how strong and large your hands are. Love the vid!
You got me. But this was actully a question a lot of people asked.
@@cedhtv Me included. Thank you for this, Sir!
The truth is triple sleeve is probably going to cause more friction on the surface of your card causing the your cards to fade out little by little over time. Think about it. Plastic pushing on plastic in different directions with your card underneath is not healthy for a cards longivety. Also I hope your plastic is uv protected, because light will fade ink, there's a reason expensive fine art isn't displayed under regular lights.
@@allana4820 fuck off bro dun try to be scientist
I quadruple sleeve. Perfect fit to penny sleeve to top loader to team bag lol
Nah I'm old fashioned I prefer playing edh with dorito fingers no sleeves
My sleeves are made out of dorito dust. Top that.
I prefer playing EDH with ass-wiped fingers, no sleeves. With a crude cut of sandpaper as my mat.
I'm sure you're a good person, but also I kinda hate you.
I have a couple of old reserved list rocks that were clearly played without sleeves before I traded for them 15 years ago. Not I look at the price list if they were mint, OMG.
Love your videos! I just started triple sleeving and I like the look of it. Playing with original dual lands and expensive reserved list cards has me triple sleeving. I was skeptical at first but glad I did it.
I know it feels like a tower at first but you get used to it.
If you’re new to deck building, don’t worry, double sleeve is just fine.
It definatly is.
Using the same perfect fit, when I insert the card, I'll have the flap at the bottom front of the card, and then slide the flap up into the backside. Personally, I wouldn't place the flap in the front. My only issue with triple sleeving is that there isn't a deck box(unless custom made) to fit a triple sleeved edh deck in 1 single column all nice and snug, wich bothers me the most. Thanks for sharing, very interesting topic for collectors.
Hmm I think I am going to swap so the flap is on the backside. Just makes soo much seans.
@holiben the ultimate guard arkhive fits 3 triple sleeved decks (I'm using thick inner sleeves, anime character sleeves, and a hard oversleeve)
Ultra Pro Dual Flip Box for the people searching the box
Or blackfire for 160+ or 200+ cards
Thanks :)
I can't believe when I see people putting their beverages right next to decks filled to the brim with very valuable collector cards. I have seen decks getting destroyed during very happy moments with lots of gesticulation.. it turned awkward and sad very fast.
I don't want to see that happening again, so multisleeve + capped bottles or side tables to put the drinks on is a good habit.
I love those dragon shield inner card sleeves. I never feel bad switching an expensive card between deck sleeves. They'll stay on those cards forever.
So quick question, when placing the Chrome Mox into the sleeve you placed the fold tab to the front of the card ( @ 8:34 ). Why did you do that? Doing so adds one extra layer of plastic. You could have slid it to the back face of the card, this would cut the film level down by 25%. Otherwise, great advice. No reason to lose a card to that capillary action that happens when your buddy drops his glass of water on the table.
Yo, I saw that and was like, wait, why tho??
I used to get laughed at for double sleeving, now people are tripple sleeving xD
and Now I am quade seleeving.
I use the Dragon Shield Perfect Fits and once you get used to the way of putting them in they are really nice. Especially for my expensive cards that I switch between decks more often.
Also I insert my cards upside down facing the other way when putting them into the Perfect Fits so then you can’t see the extra flap sitting in front of the card, 1 less layer thats sitting in front of the card.
This makes them look so much better.
Those dragons inners that fold and any outer should be enough. The taller your deck, the higher possibility of the deck falling out of your hand. This may cause you to grab the falling cards and bending them
Caution: Gloves reduce tactile feedback.
This can lead you to accidentally mishandling your cards, especially if your gloves are not thin and a tight fit. Nothing beats clean & dry bare hands with cut fingernails.
When applying a tight inner sleeve, you'll find that the corners of the sleeve are very tight make it hard to fit a card inside. I have a simple trick to slightly stretch it so that its edges don't accidentally cut your card.
Put your finger inside the sleeve with the flat surface of your nail facing a corner of the sleeve. With your other hand, press the corner edge down against your flat fingernail to flatten out the sleeve's corner, and repeat for the other side. This'll stretch out tight sleeves just enough to allow your cards to fit inside better.
Thats some good advice.
I only triple sleeve my commanders so if it is returned to my deck or hand, I can remove the outer sleeve and my commander will be double sleeved like the rest of my cards. 😃 The dragon shield sealable sleeves and most card outer sleeves will protect your cards well!
Very Nice, I do something similar but not as cool as your technique. I will be doing it now.
Why the fuck would you allow your commander to be shuffled into your deck
Two layers creates a full seal. I had a friend drop his Gatorade on my double sleeved deck once. The entire deck was completely soaked, but after removing the sleeves no cards were damaged at all. The only case I could conceive of triple sleeve coming in handy (in terms of protection) is if your deck actually gets submerged in water for a period of time. At that point I'd just invest in an air tight deck box for full protection. Something like your flip top would let water in, but there are some easily obtained boxes that slide closed and you can feel the air being pushed out.
Of course there are other reasons to triple sleeve if you want, which you went into, but if you're only interested in the protection factor then double sleeved is as far as you realistically need to go.
I'm gonna tripplesleeve my Pauperdeck
Pauper is supposed to be played without sleeves for the true pauper experience.
I quintuple sleeve, and store my decks under bricks. Amateurs.
If you're paying for a competitive deck you better be triple sleeving lol
Why don't you put that new inner sleeve on the card backwards? Then you'd have the same protection but 1 less plastic layer affecting the art.
Also, if you were only going to double sleeve would you use an inner or an outer?
Inner for sure. You wanna have inner.
I put the outer sleeve unpside down so it's harder for particules to get into the sleeve
Like that I don't need to triple sleeve so my decks feets in boxes for 100+ cards and i don't need to buy bigger deck boxes
And now put it in the toploader hardplastic;)
Soooon. Working on it. No seriously I am working on it ...
I mean as long as you can shuffle it it's tournament legal!
😱😂 I need to see a triple sleeve deck in person... That's Over the Top
I have the same idea as you. Really hope that Dragonshield or Ultrapro can provide some more wonderful sleeves rather than solid colors. I love the shuffle feel for the matte Dragonshield even if they are triple sleeves.
What deckbox do you use for your triple sleeved decks? I'm having issues trying to find a good box for a commander deck
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Secret lair box is great for 100-card triple sleeved deck
When I build a commander deck I don't take out lands or other cards for another or new commander deck. I also have to use different color sleeves. Black sleeve is the widely used color, so I don't want my card mixed and forgot about it. Especially opponents spells that enchants your spells. You also gave me an idea on the binder. Sleeve them all up and ready to go. Triple sleeve is good. Except I got small hands.
I just don't like how huge the deck becomes. I like the idea of triple sleeving, but meh, I can't get over how thicc the deck becomes.
Just w8 until you find my quad sleeved deck in top loaders. You have a video to f search for.
@@cedhtv haha that sounds...intimidating! You must be a mad man!!
@@twitchster77 Funny. I called myself that in the video. So yes I guess I am a mad man.
Mons has soft and strong hands 😍
i get a zur, i triple sleeve it AND THEN the guy who sell me the zur spill his beer on it zur was safe beer was dead
huge success
Why did you explain that more plastic makes it harder to read then you put the sealable sleeve in backwards(the extra plastic fold should be on back of card).
Love your videos, just a tip on those sealed Dragon shield inner sleeves. Put the card back facing up and you won't see the edges of the flap on the front of the card.
This!
When's the quad sleeving tutorial coming bruh
Pff that’s nothing I octo sleeve my deck
Leo Bozkir I TWENTY SLEEVE MY DECKS HAHAHA
Lunatik Strange Welp, I play without sleevez! Whatchu gonna say ‘bout that, huh?
Leo Bozkir FUCK TOO MUCH POWER OVER THERE
Surprised the green screen can't tell the difference between green and yellow
you set a tolerance rating for it
The next challenge after that is to make a 720 cards cube all triple sleeved WITH the necessary triple sleeved basic lands for 8 players :P
I actually alredy have a 450 card cube all in quade sleeved toploaders.
How thick is a 99 card deck that is triple sleeved
I actually made a video about toploaders shuffling and other things about it. Here is a link if your interested: th-cam.com/video/gZZoO1eWD4w/w-d-xo.html
Do you find that this reduces curling? How do your commander legends foils look triple sleeved?
foils curling? Do you mean the bending of foils? It does help to make them more straight. Also with the right light, you don't lose clearity of the card art.
The biggest threat I have to my cards is a friendly dog. She's tall enough that when she's standing next to a card table her hooked tail reaches above the table and can reach decks that are placed to near the edge
Dog just wants to play.
I’ve always double sleeved all my cards to protect them from particles and more so liquids, but I love triple sleeping my fully blinged out decks.
Just the decks? Or do you sleeve the loose and shoebox-stored common\uncommons as well? It cost about 14 cents to double sleeve a single card.
Unfortunately, I can only used perfect fits with a darkened side because I make proxies out of the white backing cards that come with promo packs, and light pierces right through them (the only other solution is to use nothing but plain black mat sleeves). This limits my options to a some of the products with a lower quality control. Hopefully these fold-over ones will block enough light that you can't see them through the sleeve, because I'd like to have some options that better fight the dust getting in my sleeves.
just ink over the backs?
@@Hitzel That's a lot of ink. I think I'd be afraid it might warp the card at that point, plus these markers are not the cheapest.
I use perfect fits and ultra pro only on singles that are valued over $30. People say that's cheating because you can stack/ strip cards but that's not true. I wish that were the case. My commander collection is all foil and I can't stand it when an opponent hands me their two story tall triple sleeved jankness with paper nothings.
the deck box is sold out everywhere. Have you tried the ultimate guard FLIP N TRAY? How do you like that one?
I haven't tried FLIP N TRAY. But I think they should fit quite well.
cEDH TV awesome, thanks man!
what sleeves do you use for your playmat?
Hmm I don't really understand your question.
You sir are a masochist. Great video though
I can't find a deck box that will fit 100 triple sleeved cards. Anyone know of one? I'm not looking to split the deck like he did. I would like it all in one box.
Everything is in one box. It just has two separate compartments. I think there should be more boxes out there that will do it. The biggest problem I ran into with other boxes is that they aren't tall enough. When I put my lid on them it wouldn't seal. And the lid compressed my cards. Didn't like that.
Interesting card sleeving. I thought I was OCD with double sleeving my EDH decks. Lol. By the way, I’m pretty sure the residue left on your single sleeved cards is dried dead skin cells/particles and not actually fat. It’s kind of like when you use a video game controller for a long time and you notice the same skin residue marks from where your hands hold and where your fingers are constantly rubbing on the plastic. Nice video!
It could be dead skin. I am not 100% sure. You are probobly right.
@@cedhtv It's a combination of oils, dead skin, and dirt/dust from the environment.
What deck box do you use for triple sleeve commander decks.***** haha nevermind
Gonna be honest, even with my $7,500 edh deck I'd have a hard time triple sleeving. I can barely fit it in the deck box let alone shuffling it decently just double sleeved.
Great tips mate
why you triple sleeve the card with the openning on the same side? this is not optimal the protection for fluid intrusion. My LGS owner drop his double sleeved jund modern deck into a bucket with water, due to surface tension, no water could reach the cards
I almost have the same method, the only difference is that I use boulders so I can't tripple sleeve since it doesnt fit the deckbox :D
But resleeving all inners with the sealable sleeves was a bitch (over 2000 cards ugh)
Also known as fog sleeving...
That is kinda a good name for them. But it is not bad.
Guys help what is that third sleeve brand? Where I can find sleeves like that?
Hi just to ask, do you have recommendations of boxes for triple sleeve cards?
toywiz.com/ultra-pro-mtg-premium-flip-green-mana-symbol-deck-box-dual/ These are the ones I use from ultra pro.
I'm triple sleeving for cards in. my binder however im doing yugioh and found that for the third sleeve I can either use a penny sleeve or a mtg dragon shield sleeve and want to know which one would be better for protecting my cards in the binder. already using two fairly durable sleeves so idk if for the third one to go with the flimsy penny sleeve or the sturdier sleeve of the same size and would want to know your thoughts thanks.
Awesome video! Will definitely try to triple sleeve one of my edh decks :D do you know the name of the deckbox?
Can anyone tell me how think is a edh deck once triple sleeved?
Like a fatpack. My entier deck goes into a fatpack.
@@cedhtv thanks
@@cedhtv does the desk fit snuggly (I am trying to build a deck box, while I wait for the sleeves to get here)
Sorry for an off-topic comment, but what do you think about Mox Amber in cedh? From what I've seen you seem to run it quite often. It is good?
Its good with the right commanders. Its good with Thrasios. Its good with Sisay. Its bad with Najeela. Its bad with Yisan. Its good with Tasigur. So it kinda depends.
cEDH TV Why?
Not Your Average Nothing my thinking is cmc of commander(s) and colour identity. Thrasios is only a 2cmc so can get him out early, powering up Mox Amber. Yisan is only one colour. Najeela is higher cmc.
@@anywhereroam9698 Also in something like yisan you're trying to rush Yisan out early and Amber can't do that, etc.
anywhere roam Najeela only costs 3. I think she only counts as red for the Mox, though.
XD lol triple sleeve, insane XD but i get it, also imaging how big of deck box i would need to fit triple sleeves XD
Yeay. You actully need a big box.
When your deck is worth 5k plus i would cuadsleeve my friend
Pretty soon people are gonna pay their magic commander decks using top loaders
I actually made a video about toploaders shuffling and other things about it. Here is a link if your interested: th-cam.com/video/gZZoO1eWD4w/w-d-xo.html
Sleeve-ception!
We have to go sleever
Yo dawg i heard you like sleeves, ...
Do you recommend triple sleeving cards to be placed on a binder?
If you ever do that you streach the binder so really think about it before you do it. I don't have a problem with that and I am not going back. But you won't bale able to have none tripple sleeved cards in there afterwards.
@@cedhtv oh i didnt realize that it might ruin the binder, glad i asked you first. Thanks for the reply
we were just talking about triple sleeving in your discord group a while ago.. haha..
**kmc inner sleeve is way better than dragons.. for normal shields dragon shield is best, though i also recommend KMC mattes.. and oddly, outerguard Z is the best outer sleeve.. you can literally use it as a weapon because it is so sturdy, but so smooth..
Do the Dragon Shield Inners fit in Katana sleeves?
I don't know haven't tested it.
Hmm, I never thought about outer sleeving before, I'll give it a shot since Draginshield Mattes can stick a bit when shuffling. Also I've just realised how your playmat looks like r/imsorryjon fuel.
r/imsorryjon fuel ?
@@cedhtv Look up the Reddit r/imsorryjon. Its basically messed up Garfield (elderitch horror etc).
@@CraigArgyleAudio ah yes. Cathhulu. I really like this playmat.
I like the Meow moew moew moew DIE.
What deck box do you use for 100 card triple sleeves?
Whats the music playing at the end called?
Stuck_In_The_Air by The Tower of Light. you can find it in your music library.
put them in epoxy and be done with it
Unless it’s a really expensive and valuable deck, this is just unnecessary. I watched tolarian professor submerge double sleeved card entirely under water and nothing happened to them. This would require for every deck you buy, you also have to spend $10 on inners, $10 on dragon shield and however much the third sleeve pack would be prob another $10. So $30 per commander deck just on sleeping. That’s not even worth the value of most cards in a regular deck. So this is only good for extremely valuable decks like maybe decks worth $500+ otherwise double sleeving is perfectly fine
oh I agree. I just have those cards that makes it that expensiv.
@@cedhtv Yes that makes total sense. Lucky you have such valuable cards!
Where do you from？I never heard the accent before😆
I am from Sweden, my friend.
So there’s an issue I have with double sleeving that must be ridiculously annoying with triple and that’s air in the sleeves at first, how do you compress the deck to not be full of air?
Either put something heavy on top or grab the cards at the bottom between your thumb and 1 or 2 other fingers, then with the other hand squeeze and slowly move up as though you are emptying a tube of toothpaste.
I like to compress the cards in a box by adding more and more until its super tight and let them rest for days/weeks. It works to flatten bended foils too.
Jut make sure that the last bunch of cards that you insert to make it very tight are bad worthless cards and make sure you don't slide them touching valuable cards so that none gets pushed down and bended under the others.
5:55 Coffee? That makes me wonder: Has the Professor from Tolarian Community College ever done a heat test on any sleeves to check when they start melting? 😁 Also, Masterpieces are more fragile than regular cards - and that's what WotC call "premium cards"... 🤦♂️
LOL
Because cedh ain't cheap, that's why!
Also, when playing cedh, absolutely no drinks on the table. Casual edh? Fine. But not on my reserve list cards.
Thats A rule I also have. We usually play in bars and such. And I guess I am the boring person that tell everyone to put their drinks away.
It’s good you feel better about how you sleeve your deck, but it’s almost completely pointless to go beyond double sleeve.
Anything thatwill ruin your card double sleeved will almost definitely ruin your card triple sleeved as well. It just makes who ever does it look like a douche.
Full art mtg cards are ridiculous in price. Cool video but it seems like they would slip and stick
I just blushed of all this protection-porn. n//////n you really made a magic(al) girl feel good. Better than anything the old man at that strange sponsored american community collage did. (He is ok and has a cool channel. No beef here. But that was masterful! XD)
get me right. you play magic with gloves lol?
haha. No I don't.
@@cedhtv oh ok hah
i realy think he lies.
he play it with double gloves.
Dude it’s just a sleeve dun get urself too hard in the explanation
You triple sleeve because it gives an advantage. Theres so much plastic, nobody can see what the cards on thr field are.
haha soo true :)