That was a very good explanation of barrel springs. Similar is used on sports cars (real ones), for a softer around town driving, without a big sacrifice in handling. I am sold!
Thank's for this technical vid - often stuff regarding suspension and springs is mixed up: To complete your information: The *stiffness* of the (linear) spring is described by the slope - preloading the spring does not increase the stiffnes, it does what you have visualized with the green lines! But the barrel spring has different stiffnes over travel - excactly as you have described it!
Great job explaining the barrel spring. I have them in my CR01, and they work great. I may have to pick these up for my CC. Thanks for posting this video, very informative.
Danke für das Video! Ohne hätte ich von den Federn gar nichts gewusst. Ich hoffe, dass mit dem weicherem Einfedern zu Beginn das RC-typische gehoppel etwas besser wird.
+MrStonesoul81 Freut mich zu hören! Um das Gehoppel zu verringern helfen vor allem auch noch weichere Reifen, weichere Öl-Dämpfer und viel Gewicht im Wagen (Blei)
I have made a lot of upgrades to my CC-01. I have alloy wheels and new tyres coming with the chrome axel and with all I have dune it will be the best CC-01 in our chub will have to do a video of it. Your CC-01 must have all the upgrades by now.
pinkze he say " a very helpful video Matteo ! I like your " how to " videos. I actually bought the stroke extension link set for my Cc-01 after watching your video and it is a brilliant difference ! I will have a couple of videos of my Cc-01 on here very soon.. Thank you for sharing and a big thumbs up ! "
Hi Matteo, Du hast es tatsächlich geschafft dass ich gleich im Anschluss den "buy" Knopf gedrückt hab ;) Vielen Dank für den tollen Tip, der Artikel scheint sehr neu zu sein!
+Matteo's RC Movies Keine Sorge Matteo, ich bin immer spontan und unüberlegt... :-DDDD!Nein im Ernst: freu mich die Dinger zu testen. Die progressive Federart könnte dem CC01 ein realistischeres Fahrbild ermöglichen. Vermutlich werde ich erstmal die weichste (rote) Feder-Variante einsetzen. Idealerweise wird das Chassis im Stand bereits ein wenig eingefedert auf den Dämpfer liegen (also negativen Federweg haben), und dennoch genügend Kraft in den Federn aufweisen um über Unebenheiten nicht durchzuschlagen.
Hi Matteo. I always enjoy your videos. I just completed my FJ Cruiser. I used your videos to help with improving the front and rear suspensions, front steering, etc. A question: I noticed in all of your videos for the FJ it rides very smooth. No jostling or stiffness. How did you get the springs to be so smooth and compliant? I assume you set the pre-load on the shocks to the minimum? Thanks for the help.
+Matt DeRoller Thanks for your nice feed back, glad my videos were helpful! Yes, I have no preload on the springs. And enlarged the holes in the pistons, think you saw it in my aluminum damper vid. But one more secret I can tell you: The weight of the car. To get a realistic articulation of the suspension the car should have a good weight (same as a real one). In stock setup the car is much too light. So, I added many lead weights inside of the body. The result is a much more realistic movement of the suspension.
Thanks for sharing your vivid explanation. I can understand the advantages, theoretically it would also be an advantage in buggies (soft damping while running, hard damping while landing after a jump - avoiding a 'belly landing'). I just wonder why nearly all Tamiyas come with a normal spring and this barrel spring is extremely rare - if the advantage is great then it would be the standard for all RC Car units, but it isn't. So the advantage must be very small? But thanks for sharing. It is new to me and highly interesting. What are your practically, not theoretically, opinion/experience? Do you notice any advantage when running with barrel springs?
+Nordic RC Visions Of course the "real advantage" is small. But not every best product is automatically in the kits. And I think a barrel spring is more expensive in the production. Otherwise it would be not possible to tune it up - and this is a very nice part of our hobby. I am sure the response of these springs is better, and as I told in the video I like it to have the choice of the different hardnesses. At the end a big improvement on a chassis is a combination of many small advantages. th-cam.com/play/PLwlsg2vvYW6tC2D8oE9JFYMqegOG1Qrqs.html
+Matteo's RC Movies thanks for your answer. Of course Tamiya also sells different sets of springs of hardness in 'normal springs'. But I think your last comment was very good. It's the combination of a lot of different upgrades that makes the difference from the stock version. I also like your dampers in the video. The stock-CVA I got in my Landfreeder kit are VERY hard, even with soft Oil. Thanks for all your videos. I enjoy both the your movie-style-videos and your garage-videos. Keep up the good work.
Nordic RC Visions To make the stock dampers softer, I enlarged a bit the two flat areas on the Pistons. And I added some lead weights in the chassis. This gives a more realistic moving suspension.
+Matteo's RC Movies Thanks for the tip. I will look into that. And thank you very much for your new Monster Beetle Movie. It was thrilling to see a new shiny mint unit bashing around in the water and sand. It really is alive and kicking again. Your video is the proof :-)
Interesting video Professor Mattteo, :) The advantage in design is very good but one question. do you have to buy 2 sets of springs or did you put different strength springs on the front to the rear.
+Malcolm Lambart Ohh, Professor... what a honor! :-) No, I use the soft ones in the rear and the medium in the front. I think not two sets are necessary.
Hi Matteo! I'm a fan of your RC videos. You make great shots & I admire them very much! I have a question not related to the barrel springs but on the body for CC-01. I currently use the Pajero Hard Top Body Shell w/c has a wheelbase of 245mm. Now I'm working on a Polycarbonate FJ Cruiser body but its wheelbase is quite longer than the Pajero. What recommendation/advise can you give to compensate for this longer wheelbase so I could fit it in perfectly on the CC-01 chassis? Thanks in advance for your reply.
On the chassis underside are two positions to fix the rear links. One hole for shorter wheelbase and one for longer wheelbase. I think you should use the holes for long wheelbase, maybee you need a longer drive shaft also.
I bought these Barrel Springs.... They are good with light bumps, but are still too stiff for the harder use. I am often on three wheels, because they don't compress enough. 😕 I need a much lighter springs for my Landfreeder, as I think it is too light. Probably a different brand, but almost nobody lists the spring diameters or the length in their listings. Do you know any other springs that might fit the stock Tamiya shocks?? Thank you my friend ~ Carmine
I do not think the springs are too soft. After the modifications of the pistons, explained in my previous comment they work much better. And because the low weight of the Landfreeder, I've added some lead weights under the body to get a more realistic handling of the car.
Hi Matteo, I just ordered a couple of these barrel springs for the amarok i'll get for christmas, do you recommand soft ones front and rear, or a different combination ? Thank you in advance
+Chaps' Unlimited Thanks! I running the stock ones and the aluminum dampers. In both, I enlarged the damper pistons to make it softer. th-cam.com/video/T6ZGqpP5q7M/w-d-xo.html
@@Matteomeier have you recorded this ?? Btw your instruction (tutorial videos) are the best on TH-cam. You explain and show it so well you make things look easy.
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That was a very good explanation of barrel springs. Similar is used on sports cars (real ones), for a softer around town driving, without a big sacrifice in handling. I am sold!
Thanks a lot for your good feedback! Glad to hear this!
I don't always hit the like button but when I do, I like it.
Thanks! 👍😊
Very good. I have used the short barrel springs on my CR01 for many years now. They work great
+Nick Fortes Thanks! Yes, I have it also in my CR-01!
Thank's for this technical vid - often stuff regarding suspension and springs is mixed up: To complete your information: The *stiffness* of the (linear) spring is described by the slope - preloading the spring does not increase the stiffnes, it does what you have visualized with the green lines! But the barrel spring has different stiffnes over travel - excactly as you have described it!
+MrZinzin2000 Thanks for your good feedback and the additional information. You're absolutely right!
I am not good at English, but pronunciation in your videos are very easy to hear.
Thank you very much for wonderful videos.
Thanks so much for your good feedback! Very glad to hear this! 👍
返信ありがとう。私もうれしいです。
ありがとう 😊
Great job explaining the barrel spring. I have them in my CR01, and they work great. I may have to pick these up for my CC. Thanks for posting this video, very informative.
+bel976 Thanks for your comment! Glad it was helpful!
Danke für das Video! Ohne hätte ich von den Federn gar nichts gewusst. Ich hoffe, dass mit dem weicherem Einfedern zu Beginn das RC-typische gehoppel etwas besser wird.
+MrStonesoul81 Freut mich zu hören! Um das Gehoppel zu verringern helfen vor allem auch noch weichere Reifen, weichere Öl-Dämpfer und viel Gewicht im Wagen (Blei)
Very nice hop up for the good old CC-01 chassis for sure!Great video showing how they work also.
+shenlonco Thank you!
Simple and easy to understand explanation on barrel springs👍
+Zhen Yu Phua Thank you!
Very interesting, I want to see what happens on the ground.
Thank you for the explanations.
+Binbin Ben Thanks for your comment! I'm still waiting for the first ride, but it feels nice in the Garage.
I have made a lot of upgrades to my CC-01. I have alloy wheels and new tyres coming with the chrome axel and with all I have dune it will be the best CC-01 in our chub will have to do a video of it. Your CC-01 must have all the upgrades by now.
th-cam.com/video/Qt19o-mvcJ8/w-d-xo.html
CC-01 UNIMOG GPM upgrade's and more!
pinkze he say " a very helpful video Matteo ! I like your " how to " videos. I actually bought the stroke extension link set for my Cc-01 after watching your video and it is a brilliant difference ! I will have a couple of videos of my Cc-01 on here very soon.. Thank you for sharing and a big thumbs up ! "
+pinkze Matteo say thank you pinkze! Looking forward to your CC-01 videos! I love the CC-01!
***** pinkze he say " yeah I have only used my Cc-01 twice and I am hooked ! "
Vielen Dank Matteo für dieses sehr sehr sehr gut gemachte Video.Viele Grüße in schöne Schweiz !
+willi19671 Danke Willi!
Wirklich sehr gut erklärt Matteo!Super Video!
Und sehr coole Federn!
Freue mich wirklich jedes mal, wenn ein Video von dir in meiner Abobox ist:)
+Maurice RC Productions Vielen Dank Maurice!
Hi Matteo, Du hast es tatsächlich geschafft dass ich gleich im Anschluss den "buy" Knopf gedrückt hab ;) Vielen Dank für den tollen Tip, der Artikel scheint sehr neu zu sein!
+Tom's RC Scaler Danke Tom, will dich aber nicht zu spontanen unüberlegten Käufen verleiten... :-)
+Matteo's RC Movies Keine Sorge Matteo, ich bin immer spontan und unüberlegt... :-DDDD!Nein im Ernst: freu mich die Dinger zu testen. Die progressive Federart könnte dem CC01 ein realistischeres Fahrbild ermöglichen. Vermutlich werde ich erstmal die weichste (rote) Feder-Variante einsetzen. Idealerweise wird das Chassis im Stand bereits ein wenig eingefedert auf den Dämpfer liegen (also negativen Federweg haben), und dennoch genügend Kraft in den Federn aufweisen um über Unebenheiten nicht durchzuschlagen.
Hi Matteo. I always enjoy your videos. I just completed my FJ Cruiser. I used your videos to help with improving the front and rear suspensions, front steering, etc. A question: I noticed in all of your videos for the FJ it rides very smooth. No jostling or stiffness. How did you get the springs to be so smooth and compliant? I assume you set the pre-load on the shocks to the minimum? Thanks for the help.
+Matt DeRoller Thanks for your nice feed back, glad my videos were helpful! Yes, I have no preload on the springs. And enlarged the holes in the pistons, think you saw it in my aluminum damper vid. But one more secret I can tell you: The weight of the car. To get a realistic articulation of the suspension the car should have a good weight (same as a real one). In stock setup the car is much too light. So, I added many lead weights inside of the body. The result is a much more realistic movement of the suspension.
+Matteo's RC Movies That's a verry good hint! You're absolutely right; thank's for pointing this out!
Splendid explanation It's a good theme !! ( and your room too )
+BuoyEngine Thanks a lot! But my hobby room is too small for all the great Tamiya models!
Excellent explanation Matteo. Keep up the great vids.
+Theibault Thanks!
I learned something, thanks Matteo :). Great upgrade, thumbs up!
+BJ40films Nice to hear this! Thanks!
Very good explanation , very interesting video !!
+sator rotas Merci!
Thanks for sharing your vivid explanation. I can understand the advantages, theoretically it would also be an advantage in buggies (soft damping while running, hard damping while landing after a jump - avoiding a 'belly landing'). I just wonder why nearly all Tamiyas come with a normal spring and this barrel spring is extremely rare - if the advantage is great then it would be the standard for all RC Car units, but it isn't. So the advantage must be very small? But thanks for sharing. It is new to me and highly interesting. What are your practically, not theoretically, opinion/experience? Do you notice any advantage when running with barrel springs?
+Nordic RC Visions Of course the "real advantage" is small. But not every best product is automatically in the kits. And I think a barrel spring is more expensive in the production. Otherwise it would be not possible to tune it up - and this is a very nice part of our hobby. I am sure the response of these springs is better, and as I told in the video I like it to have the choice of the different hardnesses. At the end a big improvement on a chassis is a combination of many small advantages. th-cam.com/play/PLwlsg2vvYW6tC2D8oE9JFYMqegOG1Qrqs.html
+Matteo's RC Movies thanks for your answer. Of course Tamiya also sells different sets of springs of hardness in 'normal springs'. But I think your last comment was very good. It's the combination of a lot of different upgrades that makes the difference from the stock version. I also like your dampers in the video. The stock-CVA I got in my Landfreeder kit are VERY hard, even with soft Oil. Thanks for all your videos. I enjoy both the your movie-style-videos and your garage-videos. Keep up the good work.
Nordic RC Visions To make the stock dampers softer, I enlarged a bit the two flat areas on the Pistons. And I added some lead weights in the chassis. This gives a more realistic moving suspension.
+Matteo's RC Movies Thanks for the tip. I will look into that. And thank you very much for your new Monster Beetle Movie. It was thrilling to see a new shiny mint unit bashing around in the water and sand. It really is alive and kicking again. Your video is the proof :-)
super Erkältungen!
+RC Performance Studio Gute Bescherung! :-) ähh Besserung!
This was an excellent explanation!
+Del350K4 Thank you so much! Glad you understood my bad english!
Your English is excellent!
Del350K4 :-)
Excellent explanation, thank you very much 👍
Thanks Terry! Glad you liked it! 😊
Great video, Matteo!
+Christopher Fisher Thanks!
Well Done Matteo 👍🏻 Good Explanation
+Michael Thomas Thank you! Glad you understood what I meant!
いいね！日本から応援してます！がんばってください！
+鳴海功将 ありがとうございます!
+Matteo's RC Movies 僕も応援しています。とてもわかりやすいです。頑張ってください。
kuha koralo 私は自分のベストを尽くします！ありがとうございました！
Great video and explanation!
+2KRCBACKROADS Thank you!
Interesting video Professor Mattteo, :) The advantage in design is very good but one question. do you have to buy 2 sets of springs or did you put different strength springs on the front to the rear.
+Malcolm Lambart Ohh, Professor... what a honor! :-) No, I use the soft ones in the rear and the medium in the front. I think not two sets are necessary.
Thanks for the information will look into getting some for mine.
Hi Matteo! I'm a fan of your RC videos. You make great shots & I admire them very much!
I have a question not related to the barrel springs but on the body for CC-01. I currently use the Pajero Hard Top Body Shell w/c has a wheelbase of 245mm. Now I'm working on a Polycarbonate FJ Cruiser body but its wheelbase is quite longer than the Pajero. What recommendation/advise can you give to compensate for this longer wheelbase so I could fit it in perfectly on the CC-01 chassis? Thanks in advance for your reply.
On the chassis underside are two positions to fix the rear links. One hole for shorter wheelbase and one for longer wheelbase. I think you should use the holes for long wheelbase, maybee you need a longer drive shaft also.
@@Matteomeier thanks very much!
I bought these Barrel Springs.... They are good with light bumps, but are still too stiff for the harder use. I am often on three wheels, because they don't compress enough. 😕
I need a much lighter springs for my Landfreeder, as I think it is too light. Probably a different brand, but almost nobody lists the spring diameters or the length in their listings. Do you know any other springs that might fit the stock Tamiya shocks??
Thank you my friend ~ Carmine
I do not think the springs are too soft. After the modifications of the pistons, explained in my previous comment they work much better. And because the low weight of the Landfreeder, I've added some lead weights under the body to get a more realistic handling of the car.
Sehr interessantes Video!! =) Daumen hoch! :) Und dir auch ein schönes Wochenende! ;)
+RC Showdown Vielen Dank! Gleichfalls!
***** :)
Very interesting Matteo, thanks
+James Alexander Thanks for your comment!
Darn. I was hoping the barrel spring design allowed the shock to be compressed further without the spring coils binding against each other.
+Shawn Elliott Yes, but I think this is not a big disadvantage.
Bravo Sir
+Get Some RC Thank you!
Hi Matteo, I just ordered a couple of these barrel springs for the amarok i'll get for christmas, do you recommand soft ones front and rear, or a different combination ? Thank you in advance
Hey Phil, that's nice! Have fun with your CC-01 at christmas! I have the soft ones in rear and in front the middle ones.
ok thank you a lot ;)
thank you, very clearly explained
Thanks for your comment! Glad it was helpful!
Very good info Matteo, well done :)
+RC Marty Thank you!
Thanks Matteo. Do the barrel springs give a smoother ride over small gravel, etc, amd more control?
It feels so, but had no time yet to test it on the trails.
nice vid,good explanation for the spring. :)
+Mikey mike Thank you!
Cool video bro!!
Thanks!
Great video as always Matteo!! Thanks for the lesson! What type of shocks are you running on your CC-01?
+Chaps' Unlimited Thanks! I running the stock ones and the aluminum dampers. In both, I enlarged the damper pistons to make it softer. th-cam.com/video/T6ZGqpP5q7M/w-d-xo.html
***** thanks buddy.
Cool!
what hardness corresponds to front shock absorbers and to the rear? Thanks!
Soft at the rear and medium in front.
Very thanks!
Grwat video matteo !!! I see you have enlarged damper pistons. What size and make are they ??
Thanks Richard. The pistons are from the damper set from Tamiya. I have enlarged the holes to 1.5mm
@@Matteomeier have you recorded this ??
Btw your instruction (tutorial videos) are the best on TH-cam. You explain and show it so well you make things look easy.
Thanks so much for your kind words! Ah, yes I see! I have this recorded in this video: th-cam.com/video/T6ZGqpP5q7M/w-d-xo.html
@@Matteomeier genius. 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌 thanks again
I shall be doing this on mine
grande spiegazione!
le ho ordinate per provarle sulla xv...
vediamo cosa succede
Grazie!
素晴らしい‼nice！
+せいゆう佐藤 ありがとうございます
sehr onteresante federn gruss luca
+luecu70000 Danke dir Luca!
走りが変わりましたか？
+kenbee01 私はまだ試していません。しかし、良い感じ。
Hi can you please help me with cc01 starring
th-cam.com/video/Qt19o-mvcJ8/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/-6CRvENwbww/w-d-xo.html
thank you and what type of Servo you use.
erklärungen*
+RC Performance Studio Blöde Autokorrektur, ärgert mich auch immer wider! Aber kein Problem, freu mich über deinen Kommentar!
+Matteo's RC Movies ja stimmt!
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