Damn, I can't even bring myself to banter after that one. I'm sure it's impossible to make you feel worse so I'll just hit the like button & say less 😂
Chelsea Fan here. The midfield for tottenham was overwhelmed with numbers and had to keep making tackles. I watch american football, and they say that a team should execute the game plan not make decisions each play. The more players are put in a position to make a decision the more they have an opportunity to fail. If the press broke the entire midfield would break down similar to united under ten hag with that man to man press. This midfield cannot execute the game plan and are drowning under the pressure that is being strategized against them, and the manager just allows it. He doesn't switch the formation and instruction to calm the game down, but allows it to continue. This midfield isn't as bad as it has looked the last month. This playstyle is bringing the worst out of a midfield that are not great tacklers, but who would this playstyle work with unless their world class players? Every week more questions then answers. Good Luck.
@ and it wasn’t even one of those things where it’s like Spurs sat back, cos we know Ange is never gona do that, Spurs legit just couldn’t get out. Cucurella was brilliant for me, barring the unfortunate slips… he’s a very good player, very complete; can defend, pass, invert, overlap and combine. I feel like Badiashile (who was also good 2nd half) couldn’t adjust to the angles from the right side in their 3 man buildup which helped Spurs, maybe the full 90 would’ve been like the 2nd half if Badiashile didn’t start there. Chelsea’s technical level is ridiculous, the way they can invite pressure and cut through teams and break lines is ridiculous (something 17/18 City like about them) Thought Jackson and Neto were poor, Palmer was alright but for me Jadon Sancho, man of the match👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
7 losses in 15 games, man said new stadium but we've been taken back to midtable with horrendous recruitment and awful managerial appointments. Levy and ENIC are a disgrace.
Conte said "The story of Tottenham is this...20 years under the club's owner and only one trophy; and it is the fault of the owner, the manager, and everybody else but the players." In a hypothetical world, if you fired the manager, brought in someone like Iraola, and kept the same team, you'd be here same time next season airing the same frustrations. Ange is flawed but the players on the field in the 2nd half were TERRIBLE.
Ange was terrible in the 2nd half also. Some of those players were too. The players that levy and co signed to use instead of some of those players are sub par
I totally agree with you. The manager is not perfect but I sympathize. His most creative player is a luxury player as we have witnessed this season. He knows he won't be effective against the power of Lavia & Caicedo so he sacrifices creativity for physicality. More physicality equals less control but his 2 CBs have to be rushed back and then get injured. The wingers are not good, Solanke can't really be in the game cause he spends most time pressing and you already the bench is not contributing much. What really is the answer?
The club's going nowhere under the owners, although the manager is useless and is out of his depth the real problem is those at the top but fans will do nothing about it, for all those that want Ange in should not complain when the team keeps taking the loss.
I’m so confused he’s talking as if Tottenham are an actual big club who’ve been winning trophies all along. Brother this is Tottenham it’s unfair to expect anything more than this
Dang, Levi is the root of all evil🤣🤣🤣🤣. Ange imo lost the dressing room a long time ago, don’t think he can get it back now because he refuses to adapt. Levy is the fundamental issue, until he hands complete reigns to someone else or sells up I don’t see it changing. I checked out emotionally a while back. Been in pain 30+ years, I have become immune to it now. All the glory to God and the King of Kings. Be blessed brother.
Tobs, you are absolutely 💯 spot on. This is the same shit I have been shouting and screaming about for the last 10 years. The club is rotten from top to bottom. The main issue and only problem at Spurs, is that bold git Levy and Enic
you said it perfectly around 11 mins. the high intensity, albeit great when it works, is only good for a half of football. eventually, the team tires and there's no plan B. if we're not going to have a squad like chelsea's of quality subs, then ange has to find ways to adjust, but that rarely ever happens. sick of it
I wish fans were more patient yes we are in a valley rn. Ange isn't faultless. But the issues with the team aren't all on him and firing him won't fix anything. I want this to be a real rebuild, real project. It looks bad because it is bad rn. I believe in the style of play. I believe that we don't have the players to execute it. The system could use tweets. But my god if it's a project there are going to be ups and downs and we're really down rn. I just think we should stick through this. The attitude and mentality of Ange is the right one. He needs to be backed. The club needs to stop being cheap. The really issue is at the top. People just want to restart another 18 month cycle where fans get upset at not being top 4. Ignore the low bar for success for a moment. We need to suffer a bit before we have success we aren't going to go a year and instantly be top 4, especially with this squad and recruitment. I wish people had more patience.
Rival fan here. My opinion on Ange is it seems more and more obvious that his football requires perfection in order to work, which doesn’t put u in good stead, hence the infrequent results
It’s the mentality of the club Tobs, from the top right down to the bottom. There’s no point in sacking Ange, the players need to be accountable and wake up.
Fanbase didn't turn out to protest against the likes of levy and'Co why? Nepotism. Now research the turn out of our supporters when the news hit a couple years back that a qatari(arab) partnership was intrested in buying the club. R.i.p Tottenham hotspur. The y1dArmy fanbase deserve this and nothing more.
Big up tobs that was epitome of spurs 2nil up and never in control of the game and ange has the audacity to say post match interview that when we play like we do in the first 20minutes we are hard to stop hahaha mate the games 90mins wheres your in game management when you see us get dominated in the 2nd half and instead of bringing on maddison to get on the ball you bring on werner.... for fuck sake sickening sub yet again. It is a miracle hes still in a job already. Lose to rangers n especially southampton levy better get rid.
Chelsea’s fully rotated 2nd squad they’ve been using to bash up clubs in the conference league costs more than our whole club. And we bring in more revenue than them. We must see 3 starters come in this January.
For a manager who hasn't won a top league I cannot understand where the stubborness comes from. He always inverts the fullbacks, plays a insanely high line (without an actual holding midfielder leaving the cbs even more exposed). Never ever tries to change the formation for example; a midfield diamond or back 3 and when we went down in this game, vs brighton , vs bournemouth last 15 min he just stands with his hands in his pockets (like paul bearer as steve would say). This doesn't even include the poor transfers he's overseen. A combined total of 155M pounds on Solanke, Johnson and Gray. This is very bad value for money considering gray hardly plays any meaningful matches and we splash 40M on him, Johnson is an below par footballer meedy winger and Solanke who is tied for our record transfer fee doesn't even have a 1:2 goal ratio in the league so far (keep in mind that solanke is prem proven and 27 yo he should be ready to hit the ground running). On top of all this he plays our best forward and finisher (Son) out on the LW where he is way less effective and his skills don't suit that role anymore.
On a real though tobs, we gotta be honest the players we have are mediocre let’s just call a spade a spade. They perform at a low level on a consistent basis for a reason
@ only a handful of your players get into the teams that you’re trying to compete with though. Attack is blunt, midfield constantly lacking and although your two centre halves are really good, neither are reliable for a full season.
Bro why you so angry? Any logical person could see what we would do this season with this manager and the form we've been in for 14 months. Your stating how many losses we have but you still want to keep him, doesn't make any sense. Thats TWELVE losses in the last 22 matches. His shit tactics causes players to get injured as he said himself. He also told us he doesn't care about set pieces and he doesn't want points we don't deserve. Get this clown out TODAY. Worst manager in over 20 years
I said it before, and I’ll say it again… I genuinely believe that this spurs team is cursed 😔💀 Because that’s the only justification I can think of as to why this continuously happens with this team
Ange’s inability to adapt to games is shocking. I admire his attacking admirations but his defensive awareness is a joke. From the outside looking in, my question is, how is he not seeing what we’re all seeing?
@ the latter. The arrogance to believe that his way with a crop of players that aren’t the best among the league will defeat any game plan, side or obstacle.
I can't believe you decided to support Spurs and your twin another. Dont know if you grew up in Nigeria or the Uk . But know if you grew up in Nigeria you wont have Supported Spurs just makes you feel pained everytime!
Can you imagine how up for Thursday Rangers will be now…… I agree bro I’m very torn with the gaffer, the problem is upstairs with the recruitment. I don’t even think pep or klopp coming in would improve this lot that much. These next run of games do worry me for him though, Thursday will be similar atmosphere to Galatasaray and we folded under that, Southampton away on a weird Sunday night kick off time, United in the cup then Liverpool who is an absolute write off as a game at this stage. He could well be out of work Xmas morning.
It’s disgraceful how some social media fans are online, ‘why are you so angry’ ‘why are you screaming’ ‘why you said that during the game’ Just shows that either they watch football in a massage parlour or while getting a hair cut. We watch football with emotion, so anything said or done during the game is all based on emotion and not logic. We aren’t robots people, now that doesn’t excuse people from doing madness and getting away with it. For that there are consequences but just for showing our emotions, don’t complain about it.
Damn, I can't even bring myself to banter after that one. I'm sure it's impossible to make you feel worse so I'll just hit the like button & say less 😂
You cant banter anyone mate 🤣🤣
It’s embarrassing Tobs. I can’t be arsed to get angry or say anything anymore.
This is just Tottenham Hotspur.
Facts my bro. It’s utterly embarrassing
@@SustainableShooter cant be "asked" lol
If Cucurella had worn the right boots. The game wouldn't have been this close.
Can't believe what you said earlier on the big6 watchalong. Chelsea could of scored 6 on another day...be honest
No shit Sherlock. Stop expecting consistently logical versions of me when my head is gone. We deserved to lose. I was just angry
@@tapintobs 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This was a shootout, Spurs had just as many clear cut chances.
@@Moltzenn against badishale and cacideo played RB in 1st half okay
@@Moltzenn CUCERRALLA WAS ON YOUR ISIDE FORT HE FIRST 15MINS SLIPPING WHICH HELPED YOU...THINK THEY PAID HIM
Chelsea Fan here. The midfield for tottenham was overwhelmed with numbers and had to keep making tackles. I watch american football, and they say that a team should execute the game plan not make decisions each play. The more players are put in a position to make a decision the more they have an opportunity to fail. If the press broke the entire midfield would break down similar to united under ten hag with that man to man press. This midfield cannot execute the game plan and are drowning under the pressure that is being strategized against them, and the manager just allows it. He doesn't switch the formation and instruction to calm the game down, but allows it to continue. This midfield isn't as bad as it has looked the last month. This playstyle is bringing the worst out of a midfield that are not great tacklers, but who would this playstyle work with unless their world class players? Every week more questions then answers. Good Luck.
Tobs, he sacrificed VdV and Romero today because his seat was getting too hot. That alone is inexcusable
That wasn’t a 4-3 at all, Chelsea should’ve won by 5plus goals.
Spurs should have won the game in the first wi h like 4 goals to nil and u are being honest
Spurs 6 clear cut chances chelsea 1. Stop waffling
Chelsea were absolutely brilliant in the 2nd half.
Completely agree.
Even as a rival fan, I give credit where credit is due 👏👏
@@adillambat facts. Completely took the game away from us
@ and it wasn’t even one of those things where it’s like Spurs sat back, cos we know Ange is never gona do that, Spurs legit just couldn’t get out.
Cucurella was brilliant for me, barring the unfortunate slips… he’s a very good player, very complete; can defend, pass, invert, overlap and combine.
I feel like Badiashile (who was also good 2nd half) couldn’t adjust to the angles from the right side in their 3 man buildup which helped Spurs, maybe the full 90 would’ve been like the 2nd half if Badiashile didn’t start there.
Chelsea’s technical level is ridiculous, the way they can invite pressure and cut through teams and break lines is ridiculous (something 17/18 City like about them)
Thought Jackson and Neto were poor, Palmer was alright but for me Jadon Sancho, man of the match👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Tobs...30% possession but we are always wide open at the back
Agree. Shocking stuff
That second half was madness.
Ange is sacking himself at this point.
It was a joke ting
7 losses in 15 games, man said new stadium but we've been taken back to midtable with horrendous recruitment and awful managerial appointments. Levy and ENIC are a disgrace.
this is the history of tottenham tobz.
Conte said "The story of Tottenham is this...20 years under the club's owner and only one trophy; and it is the fault of the owner, the manager, and everybody else but the players." In a hypothetical world, if you fired the manager, brought in someone like Iraola, and kept the same team, you'd be here same time next season airing the same frustrations. Ange is flawed but the players on the field in the 2nd half were TERRIBLE.
Ange was terrible in the 2nd half also. Some of those players were too. The players that levy and co signed to use instead of some of those players are sub par
I totally agree with you. The manager is not perfect but I sympathize. His most creative player is a luxury player as we have witnessed this season. He knows he won't be effective against the power of Lavia & Caicedo so he sacrifices creativity for physicality. More physicality equals less control but his 2 CBs have to be rushed back and then get injured. The wingers are not good, Solanke can't really be in the game cause he spends most time pressing and you already the bench is not contributing much. What really is the answer?
@ the answer is both he and levy leaving the club tbh
4-3 flattered Tottenham. Heck, 4-2 would've flattered them. Chelsea could've put 6 into Tottenham easily if Jackson came with his scorer mentality
Since Chelsea last season, Ange has now lost more games than we have won.
Disgraceful.
Summed up how thousands of us feel Tobz, I’m at my wits end with the club. Round and round we go
The club's going nowhere under the owners, although the manager is useless and is out of his depth the real problem is those at the top but fans will do nothing about it, for all those that want Ange in should not complain when the team keeps taking the loss.
I’m so confused he’s talking as if Tottenham are an actual big club who’ve been winning trophies all along. Brother this is Tottenham it’s unfair to expect anything more than this
Big up bro I hear your frustrations
Put some respect on Timo Werner's name. He's a champions League winner 😂
Mate these performances sums up who we bought from the summer window apart from solanke
Hold your tone its who you are mate💙
That pissed off he got the score wrong in the thumb nail
Dang, Levi is the root of all evil🤣🤣🤣🤣. Ange imo lost the dressing room a long time ago, don’t think he can get it back now because he refuses to adapt. Levy is the fundamental issue, until he hands complete reigns to someone else or sells up I don’t see it changing. I checked out emotionally a while back. Been in pain 30+ years, I have become immune to it now. All the glory to God and the King of Kings. Be blessed brother.
Best ever start to a game against your rivals you'd ask for 😢but the worst ending you would want from this game.
It’s a shambles
WE LIVE FOR THIS
Borh north London cliubs have the same issue. Poor ownership! Neither will progress beyond being top four merchants.
People arent blaming Johan Lange his scouting is terrible
Tobs, you are absolutely 💯 spot on. This is the same shit I have been shouting and screaming about for the last 10 years.
The club is rotten from top to bottom. The main issue and only problem at Spurs, is that bold git Levy and Enic
you said it perfectly around 11 mins. the high intensity, albeit great when it works, is only good for a half of football. eventually, the team tires and there's no plan B. if we're not going to have a squad like chelsea's of quality subs, then ange has to find ways to adjust, but that rarely ever happens. sick of it
I wish fans were more patient yes we are in a valley rn. Ange isn't faultless. But the issues with the team aren't all on him and firing him won't fix anything. I want this to be a real rebuild, real project. It looks bad because it is bad rn. I believe in the style of play. I believe that we don't have the players to execute it. The system could use tweets. But my god if it's a project there are going to be ups and downs and we're really down rn. I just think we should stick through this. The attitude and mentality of Ange is the right one. He needs to be backed. The club needs to stop being cheap. The really issue is at the top. People just want to restart another 18 month cycle where fans get upset at not being top 4. Ignore the low bar for success for a moment. We need to suffer a bit before we have success we aren't going to go a year and instantly be top 4, especially with this squad and recruitment. I wish people had more patience.
Rival fan here. My opinion on Ange is it seems more and more obvious that his football requires perfection in order to work, which doesn’t put u in good stead, hence the infrequent results
It’s the history of the Tottenham 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This is not on manager
wtf “im tryna think here” whilst he reels the names off his phone 😂🤣
Year after year. Manager after manager. You have to look upstairs. Enic , levy out blud !!!!!😡
This Spurs team is the most open I’ve ever seen. Players running around like a headless chicken. No fight. It’s a disgrace. The manager has to go.
It’s the mentality of the club Tobs, from the top right down to the bottom. There’s no point in sacking Ange, the players need to be accountable and wake up.
We've lost more games than Everton 😂
@@MrNeddz71 mental
head is HOTT as i can see, Fulham on the thumbnail wrong score line in the title ,yeah long week for you 😭😭
Fanbase didn't turn out to protest against the likes of levy and'Co why? Nepotism.
Now research the turn out of our supporters when the news hit a couple years back that a qatari(arab) partnership was intrested in buying the club.
R.i.p Tottenham hotspur. The y1dArmy fanbase deserve this and nothing more.
Big up tobs that was epitome of spurs 2nil up and never in control of the game and ange has the audacity to say post match interview that when we play like we do in the first 20minutes we are hard to stop hahaha mate the games 90mins wheres your in game management when you see us get dominated in the 2nd half and instead of bringing on maddison to get on the ball you bring on werner.... for fuck sake sickening sub yet again. It is a miracle hes still in a job already. Lose to rangers n especially southampton levy better get rid.
Chelsea’s fully rotated 2nd squad they’ve been using to bash up clubs in the conference league costs more than our whole club. And we bring in more revenue than them. We must see 3 starters come in this January.
@@simplychaff1875 but the reality is we won't, they'll loan a keeper and that Yang yute will come in but these owners will continue to penny pinch
Ze history of ze totten-ham 🐓 FC
For a manager who hasn't won a top league I cannot understand where the stubborness comes from. He always inverts the fullbacks, plays a insanely high line (without an actual holding midfielder leaving the cbs even more exposed). Never ever tries to change the formation for example; a midfield diamond or back 3 and when we went down in this game, vs brighton , vs bournemouth last 15 min he just stands with his hands in his pockets (like paul bearer as steve would say). This doesn't even include the poor transfers he's overseen. A combined total of 155M pounds on Solanke, Johnson and Gray. This is very bad value for money considering gray hardly plays any meaningful matches and we splash 40M on him, Johnson is an below par footballer meedy winger and Solanke who is tied for our record transfer fee doesn't even have a 1:2 goal ratio in the league so far (keep in mind that solanke is prem proven and 27 yo he should be ready to hit the ground running). On top of all this he plays our best forward and finisher (Son) out on the LW where he is way less effective and his skills don't suit that role anymore.
You got the score wrong tobs on ur thumbnail it was 3-4 not 2-4
Ten Hag should come and be a next manager
To my fellow spurs fans just give up hope, it will never get better
Football genius.
On a real though tobs, we gotta be honest the players we have are mediocre let’s just call a spade a spade. They perform at a low level on a consistent basis for a reason
Arsenal fan but big up tobs every time, passionate fan and I’m sure there’s many of you but spurs we really boyed it today smhhhhhh
Bro you are my favorite member of big 6ix
Appreciate that bro!
Is the history
Most of what you said is bang on. But 90% of your squad is just not good enough.
I don’t agree. I think parts of our squad aren’t good enough but I think some parts are and need more quality alongside it
@ only a handful of your players get into the teams that you’re trying to compete with though. Attack is blunt, midfield constantly lacking and although your two centre halves are really good, neither are reliable for a full season.
Bro why you so angry? Any logical person could see what we would do this season with this manager and the form we've been in for 14 months. Your stating how many losses we have but you still want to keep him, doesn't make any sense. Thats TWELVE losses in the last 22 matches. His shit tactics causes players to get injured as he said himself. He also told us he doesn't care about set pieces and he doesn't want points we don't deserve. Get this clown out TODAY. Worst manager in over 20 years
How does a manager watch his team gets suffocated for 35 minutes without making a tactical change?
35 mins more like 75
I said it before, and I’ll say it again…
I genuinely believe that this spurs team is cursed 😔💀 Because that’s the only justification I can think of as to why this continuously happens with this team
Ange’s inability to adapt to games is shocking. I admire his attacking admirations but his defensive awareness is a joke. From the outside looking in, my question is, how is he not seeing what we’re all seeing?
@@hakunamatata6675 bro it’s mad
Ur still shit with or without him mate
@@tapintobsWould you say it’s more to do with tactical unawareness and naivety or arrogance?
@ the latter. The arrogance to believe that his way with a crop of players that aren’t the best among the league will defeat any game plan, side or obstacle.
@@tapintobs I hear you
Bottlers innit 😂😂😂😂
Good post match reaction
When you’re going through a rough patch you ditch all philosophy, go back to basics and do whatever is required to win. Ange might as well walk now
Fullham on the thumbnail
Some one has waken up😂😂😂😂
I don't demand success😂
How did you become a Spurs fan Tobs?
Tobs, you are one hell of an anomaly. How is a Nigerian a Tottenham supporter? How do you see the big 4 and choose Tottenham? 🤷🏽♂️
My thoughts and prayers go to anybody who supports Tottenham Hotspur ❤
HOLD
preeeaaccchhhhh 👏👏👏
Tobs said all that but then said We have just as good a squad as Aston Villla lol. I dont get it.
I swear Arsenal and Tottenham are the horrible twins just at different levels. One way or another they will always disappoint you in the league
I can't believe you decided to support Spurs and your twin another. Dont know if you grew up in Nigeria or the Uk . But know if you grew up in Nigeria you wont have Supported Spurs just makes you feel pained everytime!
Post a no clue..that’s why
how much did cucerlla get paid?
🍿🍿🍿
Ange out 🤦🏽♂️
its not the manager imo, these players are a joke ting icl, bissouma wtf is he doing
We need Marco silva🎉🎉
D tech mourinho
At what point do you stop supporting Spurs😂
Spursy. Bottlers init
Crashout tobs💉💉💉
Miskeen wallahi
Humbler😂
Are you not Entertained?? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Can you imagine how up for Thursday Rangers will be now……
I agree bro I’m very torn with the gaffer, the problem is upstairs with the recruitment. I don’t even think pep or klopp coming in would improve this lot that much. These next run of games do worry me for him though, Thursday will be similar atmosphere to Galatasaray and we folded under that, Southampton away on a weird Sunday night kick off time, United in the cup then Liverpool who is an absolute write off as a game at this stage. He could well be out of work Xmas morning.
It’s disgraceful how some social media fans are online, ‘why are you so angry’ ‘why are you screaming’ ‘why you said that during the game’
Just shows that either they watch football in a massage parlour or while getting a hair cut. We watch football with emotion, so anything said or done during the game is all based on emotion and not logic. We aren’t robots people, now that doesn’t excuse people from doing madness and getting away with it. For that there are consequences but just for showing our emotions, don’t complain about it.
be grateful, you beat city not long ago
Bissouma was playing for Chelsea... I am sure they must have paid him...
And all that shit you was talking after Roma game, look at ya now