3 tanks and 3 healers only works if the enemy no flying heroes or a black panther in the enemy comp or worse a winter soldier who know what they're doing.
@@dlrowWOLF Black Panther literally rushes in demolishes character in two seconds and rushes right back out Go watch very good Black Panther gameplay. It looks insane.
@ will do . TBH , I rarely ever see him on a team . I remember using him just 1 time in the beta and I never picked him again after that . ima try him out
@@trixiechristpherson9650 Firstly - Luna ult can either heal or dmg boost - not both at the same time. Secondly, what about the other teams ults? Thirdly what happens when Luna ult ends and you're stuck fighting a team which has a better neutral than you?
@@Ryan-og4zfthere is actually a trick where you can bind Luna ult to scrollwheel, and by scrolling you constantly change between heal and buff, effectively having both up at the same exact time
Looking at all of these comments is making me realize how many people never experienced GOATS in overwatch. “I’ll just play reaper and pharah” the pros tried for years, what in the silver 3 are yall talking about.
@@tillmarti21I'm not saying goats is good or anything or I agree but I think wolverine wouldn't be an issue to a goats comp of good players. He is a free target for ccs, and iron man can get killed pretty easy by Luna/mantis. I think the hard poke comps in this game is what actually beat goats, cause they do insane damage.
@@TheRedHaze3 idk if you played overwatch during goats meta but with correct cooldown usage you can completely counter spam damage and just force objective. On defense you’ll run out the clock and on attack you’ll force them on point where you can kill them up close. Plus Ironman barely does any damage unless he’s hitting direct shots
@@tobe.moemeka MR is not Overwatch though. If you're using all your cooldowns on Wolverine, what if they have/switch to a good Black Panther? Because the only way you can stop a good BP is with CC. I'll believe this is the meta when I see it in comp.
@ this game is better in some aspects. There’s no heroes with free AOE healing like Lucio and Brigitte but also the healers themselves have stronger sustain and the time to kill is longer in general. Maybe the dive and burst damage in this game is good enough to kill through goats if you’re teams coordinated but that’s unlikely considering the sustain is so good in this game. The supports in this game are just busted so unless they nerf the sustain overall I’m pretty sure GOATs will be meta at the highest level but only time will tell
I've never seen a 3T3H in Plat and Diamond. It's still 2-2-2, 1-3-2 or 1-2-3. 3-3 is will not work especially if the opponent has flying characters. Wolverine also would easily feast on one of the tanks. And he'll live easily because he'd take low damage.
You probably won't see it in ranked for a while, he was talking about scrim teams who are prepping for the professional play. GOATS in overwatch didn't trickle down to the ranked scene until the pros proved it was viable. That's if it even works in the first place, the game like a week old, we got to give it time to settle.
Thing about Rivals as it currently is, its season 0 and almost all characters are broken in some aspect with enough people and options that there is an answer to almost every strategy. The chances of something remaining at the top before the next season arrives to bring more characters for extra chaos to the meta game is low. And if there is an op strategy, it hasn't been discovered yet, and will likely have an easy to spot outlier for the current meta. (so long as the devs are as smart as they were when they pushed to get this project greenlit)
I'm Diamond 1 and there's really only 1 stack I've seen in t500 that does the 3 support 3 dps "goats" comp. The key was having a cap, luna and Mantis and basically rotating around their defensive sustain ultimates. They used said comp to rank pretty highly in the beta tournament iirc, but new heroes like wolverine kinda shit on the comp.
Ya'll keep mentioning flying characters but multiple healers shoot projectiles & 3 of the tanks can fly/swing. Venom & Thor/Cap with Luna Rocket & Jeff = ggs
Even for few tanks with verticality dealing with well positioned flyer requires them to detach from their deathball which is what goattards can't fathom
@@prep3544 if you look at where the gun is pointing from the Luna's POV it's also not accurate at all. Idk man, sure replays and stuff aren't accurate. But you should be able to follow your opponent's gun and eyes in real time and tell where they are looking.
for shure, wolverine is suppose to bring the tank away from their healers but Bucky already does that so much better, wolverine needs a mega buff, not even a bug but a rework or extra ability
3 tanks, 3 healers, omegalul... that might work in low elo, but it will definitely not work in high level play. The meta for pro/high level play will most likely be: 1 tank, 2 duelist & 3 supports. This game needs some serious balancing and revision if it doesn't want to be what overwatch has become. Good luck killing anything on a team that is running Mantis, Luna Snow & Cloak/Dagger.
@@flaviuspasca6530 also its only been a week even I don't know what might happen down the line, especially considering we're getting another 13 characters nest season
The games is kinda boring honestly. Same gameplay loop and levels. The aim mechanics is terrible. Literally aiming at the target and hits still don't register. The matchmaking is absolute ass. There is no role queue, so every game is 6 dps. I think the only people that play this game is children and manchilds. Marvel IP is kinda weak honestly. They should of made a moba shooter for League of Legends instead. That game would last a 100 years. People say that is an Overwatch killer, I mean Overwatch is such a shit game too, so thats not really setting the bar high.
goats is complete dogshit in this game. there are so many counters it just isn't worth using. the amount of effort required to make it slightly work is just ridiculous.
3 tanks and 3 healers only works if the enemy no flying heroes or a black panther in the enemy comp or worse a winter soldier who know what they're doing.
Why black panther ?
@@dlrowWOLFkills the strategist
Or spider man .
@@dlrowWOLF Black Panther literally rushes in demolishes character in two seconds and rushes right back out
Go watch very good Black Panther gameplay. It looks insane.
@ will do . TBH , I rarely ever see him on a team . I remember using him just 1 time in the beta and I never picked him again after that . ima try him out
If I see 3 tanks I am swapping to Wolverine and tank hunting all game
Wolverine is like the worst tho
@ against dps and healers probably yes. Tanks definitely not
@@Blatgotyahatty He's built to delete tanks
Wolverine deals max hp extra damage per auto, of course he's built to shred tanks.
One v one against a peni parker and wolverine is easy work
For people who dont know.. cloak and dagger, iron man, wolverine and a few others make GOATS fall apart, and theres nothing they can do about it.
12 second Luna Ult rolls her eyes at you
@@IHJello tell me more about how a 12 second ult can counter a comp that punishes you in the neutral
@@Ryan-og4zf because only one team can/t die and you are boast the damage of your on team so other team is going to die lol
@@trixiechristpherson9650 Firstly - Luna ult can either heal or dmg boost - not both at the same time. Secondly, what about the other teams ults? Thirdly what happens when Luna ult ends and you're stuck fighting a team which has a better neutral than you?
@@Ryan-og4zfthere is actually a trick where you can bind Luna ult to scrollwheel, and by scrolling you constantly change between heal and buff, effectively having both up at the same exact time
Diamond 2 and no we do not do that in higher elo lobbies, doesn`t even make sense, you have characters that are built to melt compositions like that.
True
I guess it goes full circle because in high elo we just play goats
Its not 3-3, its still 2-2-2. Ive only seen 1 game out of like 50 that used goats and pulled it off barely.
and what rank are you buddy ? Bronze ?
Nah, overwatch players are defaulting to 2-2-2, its pretty bad though.
Nah I’m diamond 2 and never played 3-3-3
@ttvatmracer because it's not possible to have 9 players on a team maybe?
@ you know what I meant smart ass
GOATs actually falls apart against a team of majority Duelists. We’re fine
hela having 2000K hp is kinda op
Looking at all of these comments is making me realize how many people never experienced GOATS in overwatch. “I’ll just play reaper and pharah” the pros tried for years, what in the silver 3 are yall talking about.
Do Reaper and Phara have %max hp damage? Might want to reconsider that statement my friend.
@@tillmarti21I'm not saying goats is good or anything or I agree but I think wolverine wouldn't be an issue to a goats comp of good players. He is a free target for ccs, and iron man can get killed pretty easy by Luna/mantis. I think the hard poke comps in this game is what actually beat goats, cause they do insane damage.
8:51 funniest transition xD
Nah, Wolverine, flying heroes and teamwipe DPS eats this comp for sure
Support ults can counter damage ults. Only scary character would be Wolverine but you can CC him with all of your cookdowns
@@tobe.moemeka The ults aren't the problem, the only tank that really counters flying heroes is Hulk, and he's literally the worst tank in the game.
@@TheRedHaze3 idk if you played overwatch during goats meta but with correct cooldown usage you can completely counter spam damage and just force objective. On defense you’ll run out the clock and on attack you’ll force them on point where you can kill them up close. Plus Ironman barely does any damage unless he’s hitting direct shots
@@tobe.moemeka MR is not Overwatch though.
If you're using all your cooldowns on Wolverine, what if they have/switch to a good Black Panther? Because the only way you can stop a good BP is with CC.
I'll believe this is the meta when I see it in comp.
@ this game is better in some aspects. There’s no heroes with free AOE healing like Lucio and Brigitte but also the healers themselves have stronger sustain and the time to kill is longer in general. Maybe the dive and burst damage in this game is good enough to kill through goats if you’re teams coordinated but that’s unlikely considering the sustain is so good in this game. The supports in this game are just busted so unless they nerf the sustain overall I’m pretty sure GOATs will be meta at the highest level but only time will tell
Until 1 wolverine and 1 iron first roll both your front line and back line at once
8:52 nice edit 😏
Anyone see that Hawkeye kill at 8:20 that’s honestly a crazy hitbox
TruLy insane
Truly hacks lmao tf
I am so glad somebody else pointed it out
Bogur is terrifying on Doctor Strange. Ha ha ha ha ha!
I've never seen a 3T3H in Plat and Diamond. It's still 2-2-2, 1-3-2 or 1-2-3. 3-3 is will not work especially if the opponent has flying characters. Wolverine also would easily feast on one of the tanks. And he'll live easily because he'd take low damage.
I’m plat1 and we’ve ran 3-1-2 and it’s worked pretty well
You probably won't see it in ranked for a while, he was talking about scrim teams who are prepping for the professional play. GOATS in overwatch didn't trickle down to the ranked scene until the pros proved it was viable. That's if it even works in the first place, the game like a week old, we got to give it time to settle.
Thing about Rivals as it currently is, its season 0 and almost all characters are broken in some aspect with enough people and options that there is an answer to almost every strategy. The chances of something remaining at the top before the next season arrives to bring more characters for extra chaos to the meta game is low.
And if there is an op strategy, it hasn't been discovered yet, and will likely have an easy to spot outlier for the current meta. (so long as the devs are as smart as they were when they pushed to get this project greenlit)
Wasn’t dafran saying this game is dogdoodoo, now we got bro giggling in this video
It’s just I’m pretty sure 1 tank 3dps counter 3 tanks and 3 sups
I'm Diamond 1 and there's really only 1 stack I've seen in t500 that does the 3 support 3 dps "goats" comp. The key was having a cap, luna and Mantis and basically rotating around their defensive sustain ultimates. They used said comp to rank pretty highly in the beta tournament iirc, but new heroes like wolverine kinda shit on the comp.
Iron Fist, Iron Man, Wolverine and Black Panther say hi
4:50 bro went death metal
Captain America,Thor, and Strange as tanks mantis , cloak, Adam warlock healer only way 🗣️🗣️🗣️
8:20 lmao not even close but headshot
Ranked in Diamond is 3dps 3 healers or 2 2 2, i have hardly seen 3 tanks 3 healers
The day this game becomes hitscan only + Noodlle tank fights, is the day I go play something else
Pick 3 tanks, im going wolverine
You can absolutely demolish their healers if you have a good character and a flying character
Goats don’t work
Can you add more of a border or make the text larger for the streamer names? Otherwise awesome vid 😎
Noobhunter branching out nice
Wolverine counters this
He gets out healed
@@Drop0sauce 1-4-1, 1-2-3 an maybe even 0-5-1 would win a 3-3 if they just use burst characters and high dmg characters
so weird watching a noobhunter video without noobhunter now lmao
Like his older vids. I prefer just seeing clips more but I get you like hearing him speak.
one of those tanks is basically a dps tank hybrid (captain america)
Captain America does barely any damage wdym?
3 tank 3 healer... perfect game for wolverine to stomp :)
It doesn’t take 3 brain cells to figure out that 3 3 it’s good
Ya'll keep mentioning flying characters but multiple healers shoot projectiles & 3 of the tanks can fly/swing. Venom & Thor/Cap with Luna Rocket & Jeff = ggs
Even for few tanks with verticality dealing with well positioned flyer requires them to detach from their deathball which is what goattards can't fathom
Remember when people freaked at the OW hit box changes? Umm.. 2:54
thats just the kill cams being janky
The kill cam and replays aren't accurate to the crosshairs.
@@prep3544 if you look at where the gun is pointing from the Luna's POV it's also not accurate at all. Idk man, sure replays and stuff aren't accurate. But you should be able to follow your opponent's gun and eyes in real time and tell where they are looking.
9:40 I thought dafran hated Rivals
Everyone knows 6 dps is the real meta
4:15 is mighty handsome
There are more cheaters in this video than there could be in Cod Warzone and Apex combined.Cown Humans
sad thing about 3 3 is even on that situation wolverine is still bad😅 him supposed to be the tank buster
for shure, wolverine is suppose to bring the tank away from their healers but Bucky already does that so much better, wolverine needs a mega buff, not even a bug but a rework or extra ability
You guys are too low of a rank if you think wolverine needs a buff
@Flameshot_Wolverine is pretty solid
He definitely needs another ability, give him a passive regeneration out side of combat.
@ you have to be bronze
3 tanks, 3 healers, omegalul... that might work in low elo, but it will definitely not work in high level play. The meta for pro/high level play will most likely be: 1 tank, 2 duelist & 3 supports.
This game needs some serious balancing and revision if it doesn't want to be what overwatch has become. Good luck killing anything on a team that is running Mantis, Luna Snow & Cloak/Dagger.
not enough to attack but defending its good.
Wolverine will destroy that comp
Quite obvious, there's not enough dps in the game, nor buffers
6:15 people complaining about jeff its just what makes jeff scary dont need to remove or change shit
8:50 i see what you did there ;)
it simple is not, most played main in top 500 is hela
Overwatch Goats comp.🤣
Is this actually NoobHunter?
Yes. He has shouted this channel out on his overwatch channel
3 tanks 3 healer isnt meta. i call that bs.
Hawkeye and hela clips be mad boring ngl
I'm D1, GM3, not really.
Soooo GOATS again? 😂
No
Healers is too strong...mantis and luna has 20s imortal..
buff wolverine,problem solved
Meta this meta that have you ever meta girl?
How much is Moon Knight paying you to say this
who would have thought tha its gonna be like overwatch
Nope theirs no goats, all those who tried that got demolished as far as I've seen
@ maybe there is no goats, but if there is high sustain and high damage reduction they are gonna play that than the fun dps chars
@@flaviuspasca6530 I don't see that working on all honesty the sheer imbalance of the characters makes it almost impossible to make a comp like that
@@flaviuspasca6530 also its only been a week even I don't know what might happen down the line, especially considering we're getting another 13 characters nest season
the sweaty streamers are already ruining the games fun.
That is NOT the meta...
NOOOOOOOOOOO
I think tanks just don’t do enough damage outside of Thor for goats
Shroud is obviously dumb and doesn't play Star Lord
The games is kinda boring honestly. Same gameplay loop and levels. The aim mechanics is terrible. Literally aiming at the target and hits still don't register.
The matchmaking is absolute ass. There is no role queue, so every game is 6 dps. I think the only people that play this game is children and manchilds.
Marvel IP is kinda weak honestly. They should of made a moba shooter for League of Legends instead. That game would last a 100 years.
People say that is an Overwatch killer, I mean Overwatch is such a shit game too, so thats not really setting the bar high.
not even meta lmao
the game isn't even out for a month and we already have goats💀, prob gonna switch to role lock to fix that
Why? It exists but it isn't good. This game actually has a counter for it
Iron man and wolverine become useful if there's 3-3
No goats yet just ppl over reacting
goats is complete dogshit in this game. there are so many counters it just isn't worth using. the amount of effort required to make it slightly work is just ridiculous.
I absolutely hate streamers bro