The Raiders are suffering from the curse of Jack Del Rio. Just when they started to have some continuity in the coaching staff and organization as a whole, Mark fires him for John Gruden, then Josh McDaniels and now AP. We all see where they’ve fallen since the Del Rio firing. The Raiders have had more coaches in the last 10 years than the Steelers’ entire history. It’s very telling.
@@SouthernOregonReps wtf are you talking about? This dude literally has all his superstar players on IR and is playing marry go around with UFL QBs. This year isn’t to win games. Go back to your closet.
You attaching feelings to honestly what does AP do well or great I'll give him motivator but outside of thst he's looked terrible decision making personell the antics game management hell has he even won a Challenge he clearly can't even do that correctly he seems way over his head and because the other coaches in our division have real football knowledge AP is being humbled! Oh and why did he touch the offense from last year in replacement of Minshew and Getsy
He had the same QB that went 5-4 for him last season, he just didn't name him the starter, or give him an OC that wasn't a proven trainwreck. No competent OC is coming to the Raiders to play under AP on the last year of his deal - we'll be scraping the coaching dregs for another Getsy!
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Life isn't fair. This season is a combination of factors. AP jumped straight from LB coach right? As much as we like him, he’s over his head. Raiders don't own a favour for anybody. We need a real HC.
He built his staff and made business decisions. He’s the worst coach in the league. He started Gardner Minshew. You people only have excuses instead of reasons for success.
I have been behind AP since last year. Would have bummed out if he wasn't hired. But, if Harbaugh was hired instead i would have eventually gotten over it. I still stand by AP for next year as well!
He deserves nothing except a thank you from Raiders Nation for a great Tank Job. I doubt he stays for another season. AP is a LB’s coach that got a nice bag 💰
Keep AP but get rid of Telesco. He’s responsible for this disaster. Josh Jacobs had an interview and said AP isn’t running the show. If it was up to AP we’d have kingsbury, Jacobs, Adams, penix jr, and would be winning games. You turncoats felt the same way about Graham a few years ago blaming him instead of Mcdummy and now your on his nuts… After he got his players! AP all the way with his guys.
Our Raiders fans wanted Mark Davis too hire Antonio Pierce and it backfires big time. The next big mistake was signing Gardner Minshew as quarterback and starting him as our No-1 quarterback “fail”. Over Aiden O’Connell.
Yes he's had a fair shot. But! That doesn't mean it's reasonable to fire the man. What does that say to the next coaches, players and staff??? It means that no matter the outcome the Raider franchise isn't willing to build with you. So it's a huge mistake to let him go. Not only because he's a leader and needs time to grow. But also for the owners and management to learn how to develop top to bottom. How can you build culture if you don't run through tough times and place confidence in people that are willing to grow and love the organization?
Unfortunately it is, it started with the QB choice before training camp. Then with clock management, play calling Offense and Defense, he just didn’t step up, allocated too much to his coordinators didn’t involve himself enough, appeared to be over his head. He could and will get better, I wouldn’t hate seeing him come back.
I’ve been asking you about this for a while now. It does seem like AP won’t be back. I think Brady has a lot more pull with the organization than we might know. But we need to tank to get our QB. So one thing at a time. Shaduer will be scooped up if we don’t lose the rest of our games.
He cannot manage the sideline/game. Period. And there were several times this season where it was clear he was lost like a deer in headlights. He should never have put in that position.
Carl I love your videos and have been subscribed for a long time but dammit, don’t you ever put Josh McDaniels coaching this team in ANY capacity into the atmosphere ever again!!
After he said Were The Worst Team in NFL, Then Mark Davis should of FIRED him! "If" he fired its just going to show the Rest of The Leauge we got 13 coaches in 25 years. Thirteen....
These Raiders teams need to face the truth, he fired them up and they damn near won. He’s honest and he’s a leader. He’s what the raiders need to get back right.
Apparently Sheduer Sanders has been working with Tom Brady for quite some time, seems to me if Sanders became our QB the work between them would continue with Brady becoming a mentor and possibly a trainer. My question though is why Brady isn't helping any of our current QB's?
Clearly, we need a good OC to turn this offense around... what competent OC is going to come to the Raiders to play under AP on the last year of his deal?? No one - we'll just be scraping the coaching dregs for another Getsy!
I think one that has aspirations to be a HC would come. Someone that would see this as an opportunity to progress. Or one that is just content with being a OC
I think Davis regrets not keeping Bisaccia. We keep having 35-50% winning players- so he doesn’t want a complete tear down and rebuild. So now running with the interim is the shot but the 2 year contract incase it goes bad. And no matter how much we all like AP- he is becoming the worst HC we ever had. If isn’t a tank- then this is the worst experiment ever done
AP is all talk and from the pictures that are being released of him being out gambling at 3am prior to a game makes sense why he looks lost on the sidelines. AP has to go it was a mistake hiring him we should have gotten Harbaugh.
@@aminjames9243 If I were a betting man, I'd be putting money on Ben Johnson going to Cincinnati. If the Bengals fire Zac Taylor, Cincinnati automatically becomes the best coaching job because of Mr Joe Burrow. Johnson will go there or Chicago to work with Caleb. He isn't coming to Vegas.
Raiders' main issue will always be not trusting someone to do the entire job, namely GM and HC's inability to choose their own OCs and DCs, as well as position coaches. I think that's one of the reasons they never get really close to hiring people like Sean Payton or even Jim Harbaugh. Why would they come if they can't make those choices? They know they will be 'stuck' with people (Who hired Getsy, for instance?). It was fine when (younger) Al was there and knew more about football than 99.9% of the people out there. But you can't do it like that now. Mark is not his father. I'm afraid they're going to fire the GM before he even gets a chance to fix some of this. I've heard people callling for his dismissal. Raiders need stability. You can't run it like a reality show.
What makes you think that Mark Davis is some sort of evil genius that's able to concoct a plan to hire AP just so that he could fire him one year into his contract? 13 years of him running this organization show that he's not that clever. Also, if Rich Bisaccia is such a great HC, then why hasn't any other team hire him as their HC?
I believe all that you just said was crap about making the job look pretty so they can fire AP. I think Davis gave him a two year deal because he didn’t want to burry himself under another multi year contract at full price. AP is also giving Davis a hometown discount too. He’s not paying multi millions a year like Harbaugh wanted. Davis is buried with old HC contracts still from Gruden and JM. They’re both doing each other a favor in a way. I don’t think there’s some elaborate scheme behind the scenes to lure in and trap a HC! That’s ridiculous.
I have to be honest and say that it's really hard to tell.Except for some of the decisions that I've seen him do on the field shows that he doesn't have the experience, but who knows?If that's part of the tanking so it's hard to tell this might be all about the giraffe who knows
AP has to go. Just like McDaniel had to go. Both had no QB Both had a year and a half Both had injuries If you wanted Josh gone, you should want AP gone
Fair shot or not. It’s the mismanagement for me. Simple things that he should know as a player. Timeouts at the wrong time. Not knowing when to kick a field goal or go for it. Not disciplining players
Please don’t take this the wrong way but at this point I don’t care if he hit a fair chance or not, I just want the Raiders to win and whom ever can do this I’m all onboard with at this point
I would like to see him stick around. BUT he's not free of blame. As a HC the buck stop with him, he should have made AOC the QB. Is AOC the end all he all answer? Hell no, but he's better than Minshew. Pierce has shown terrible game management qualities. Bad understanding or risk vs reward and now that they're eliminated from everything they have more to lose from winning games. The coaching staff is also questionable... So many former HCs on the staff and yet there's a lot of distinction within the team. Idk, we'll see what happens. I think either option on the table makes sense
AP DESERVES ANOTHER YEAR JUST LIKE MCDANIELS HAD TWO YEARS! PEOPLE FAIL TO REALIZE THAT AP DOESN'T MAKE THE FINAL DECISIONS TOM TELESCO AND MARK MAKES THE FINAL DECISIONS ON PERSONAL. AP WANTED JAYDEN DANIEL'S BUT TOM TELESCO SAW THINGS DIFFERENTLY! AP DIDN'T WANT GETSY HE WANTED KINGSBURY BUT TOM MADE THE FINAL CALL! AP DEFINITELY DESERVES ANOTHER SHOT WITH A TEAM THAT HAS REAL TOOLS TO SUCCEED LIKE MCDANIELS HAD WHEN HE WAS HIRED AND TOOK OVER THE RAIDERS ! MCDANIELS HAD A PLAYOFF TEAM BUT THEN HE DISMANTLED IT, AND AP TOOK THAT TEAM AND STARTED TO TRUN IT AROUND LAST YEAR! AGAIN AP DOESN'T HAVE FULL CONTROL HE DOESN'T MAKE THE FINAL DECISIONS ON PLAYER PERSONAL.
we "Raiders", do not know how to play instinctive foot ball on the offensive side of the ball in my opinion. My reasons run deeper than this, but in a nut shell. It's like learning any thing from a text book which are ideal situations. then hit the real world just to find things to be a little more complex.
I have a lot of mixed feelings about this. on one hand, understanding a coach cant come in and just fix it. but when you see the small sample size that it does work, it makes you re-think everything. How many first round qbs turn out as busts and dont work out? how many coaches dont work out. But, you see what happens when a coach or qb work out. I am at the stage now that let him stay. We had the opportunity to replace, now I dont see one good enough, so why not wait? and let him develop. but what cant happen is a restructure every single bump in the road. you have to start winning at some point. and if you have a vision, you have to execute said vision. I'll point out what he said about being a run first team and Jacobs was our guy. He left. Z. White looked way better last year. maybe the scheme or play call or lack of players, but something happened. and now all of a sudden we can run? We have same HC and same players, so was it a HC or OC problem? who is in charge of making those decisions. only the front office knows. so, i feel like all of those things determine how fair an extra year or a firing really is.
No, Just hire/pay for the top OC, QBC, OLC and RBC. Just like the Ravens do, only better. Yes, the defense is solid, for now. AP is a solid motivator and realist. LETSGO
I definitely agree with you about Mishew and Jacobs but Telesco first draft looks promising. Bowers, Powers and Glaze have potential to be solid starters for years to come.
I say give AP another season. Every1 screaming for his firing will be on here next Season Crying that the New Coach hasn't got the team buying in on his shit. If AP can't W1N with Shedeur or Ward, fixed O-Line and Healthy Defensive front then i would look into moving on. But like i said...Brady is evaluating situation so stay tuned.
5 QBs in 1 1/2 years, No QB1, No RB1, No WR1, Oline couldn't push a button. Yet AP is supposed to win with a worse offense than got JMD fired. SMH, AP didn't stand a chance like most Black American HCs. Richard Sherman was right! Then somehow he's supposed to win with QB3, RB3, and no WR1 and a Online that's getting zero push on MNF. Fans quitting on the coach before the TEAM is crazy to me.
Minshew was in the Pro Bowl last year. Not exactly a 3rd string QB. No WR1????? What the hell was Adams? RB3? Mattison was supposed to be a big Free Agent acquisition. White went viral for his bulked up body and was considered a legit option.
If Gruden coached this team the record would be alot better, the team severely underperformed , and Minshew was fine and dandy with the colts last year, if he would have put his foot down and started Aidan from week 1 I believe this team would be in better shape, a I think AP might be in over his head ,he was retained because that's what the players wanted and it's good practice for ownership not to souly listen to what the players want, take it into account ,sure, but as the main priority? Never. It's time to for a reality check, Jim Harbaugh, Andy Reid,and Sean Payton, 3 h.o.f. HCs are the competition, the Raiders can't waste another year ,they need someone who can compete at that level, I'm not even sure Vrabel is that guy, I know one coach who was unfairly removed from his job who could though. Bring Gruden back ,,he had the team back on track just keep him away from the draft.
Absolutely. He was never ready for the job. Line coach that never head coached in college or the pros. A rookie. He's done a horrible job. The Raiders have never been worse. He has to go.but remember, We all wanted him to get his shot. Mark Davis relented and gave us all what we wanted, and kept him on. He's had a fair chance.
😭😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂 I WAS NEVER FOR THIS GUY I only rock with him cuz most of the nation vouched for him , in all my videos from the JUMP I SAID I WANTED EITHER HARBAUGH OR PEYTON 💯, now fans even some OG fans crying it ain't fair cuz he didn't have a QB n this n that , a QB dont defined your weaknesses in being a coach , PATRICK GRAHAM HAD NO REAL PEICES TO HIS DEPTH OTHER THAN MAX , everyone else was either hurt or playing different positions and it turned out good for him CUZ HIM BEING AN EXPERIENCED COACH HELP HIM ELEVATE HIS HIS TECHNIQUES. Pierce dosent have that knowledge and hes no motivator, mark Davis has been kind enough to listen to fans and look where it has gotten him yeah nothing but bashing and trash talking and for some of us yelling sell the team I even been on that wagon cuz of the dumb decisions he's made as owner of this team , but for a man who's father left him outta the spot light and not teaching him the game of this whole operation what do you expect and for people trying to run him outta the NFL hes learned by the years it dosent take trust it takes smarts and money moves and now that MARK DAVIS dosent want to give AP another shot even OG fans are crying ITS NOT FAIR well life's not fair and he just happened to be the last one that mark saying i like you but I have to let you go , it's part of the game you win some you lose some but you live to see another day and move forward and maybe that second chance you get you learned from the pass but I can't keep you if you can't learned from the on going mistakes you keep making as my head coach . With this all being said bring in MIKE V keep PG keep SCOTT TURNER yeah I said it and go out and GET JAXON DART OR DILLON GABRIEL OR SANDERS AND PUT THE REST OF THE PIECES TOGETHER AND LETS START WINNING SOME FOOTBALL GAMES , RAAAAAAAIIIIIIIDDDDEEERRRRS .
you pierce defenders are incredible this guy couldn't manage a lemonade stand, ok he didn't have good talent but have you watched the awful game management use of timeouts etc... Raiders have been down double digits in every game this year only the second team in NFL history to do that (other was 86 colts who fired their coach after 13 games) , they have One recovered fumble on defense and if they don't get two more they will set or tie the NFL record for least fumbles recovered in a season. This is a historically bad job by pierce, get rid of him.
All this, "AP had no QB" is garbage... he had the same QB that went 5-4 for him last season! All he had to do was name him the starter over TO-machine Minshew, and give him an OC that wasn't a proven trainwreck. O'Connell isn't elite, but he isn't a "game-loser" like Minshew - if he started game 1, if we had a competent OC, and if we had some better luck with injuries, then Adams would still be a Raider, and we'd be battling Denver and the Chargers for the final AFC wildcard spot.
@@Sammy-ec8crdepends. AP makes incredibly bad in game decisions. He has no idea what he's doing. He doesn't call plays. He's just a glorified cheerleader.
@@Ryan-bl5wz lol so, you’re not going to answer that question? so he can’t ever improve? Plenty of HC’s don’t call plays.. that’s typically the OC’s job..
@@Sammy-ec8cr has he shown any improvement in game management? No. So why would it magically be better next year? AP isn't head coach material. It's ok. Not everyone can be a good head coach.
look if you put him back in there , and he cant win ? then what waste another year ? where is the coach them up he proved he cant do that , so you have to do what you need to do ! fire him and move on ! Vrabel would be good for Raiders, he has something to prove this time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You folks are crazy. You have to stop making excuses for this man. He can't make decisions. He's not good on his feet. Aidan OConnell is so much more talented than Minshew and he gave the reigns to the WORST starting QB in football after a full off-season. He doesn't understand how to produce a competent product on the field
Facts draft OL to give AOC time in the pocket so he can pick a defense apart he just needs. Encouragement a coach he trust and the organization get behind him n stop saying we don't have a qb
So none of the personnel decisions is on AP an ape what and with what he can work with. When it comes to personnel and personnel decisions that's all on the general manager. When it comes to offensive coordinators or defensive coordinators that are hired off the street that's all on telesco. AP can make a suggestion but anything that has to do with personnel in a building mainly falls on a GM The way those kids are playing even though they're not that talented is pretty dope because they're being led to be that way buy the head coach. AP can't play for the players but everything's on the players and the coordinators along with the gm. People get confused on what a coach is actually supposed to do. 😊 AP has done his job
Davis has a history of being enamored with people he was reed no matter what. Davis wanted Gruden back no matter what and I think that had an impact on Del Rio in 2017. Then he choose McDaniels over Bisaccia because he wanted the Patriots way? I personally don’t trust Davis to do anything right.
Raiders fans are just like dolphin fans... pathetic.. they was down for him to get hired last year.. Now ur ready to fire him with the mess they have him..Not his fault... So sad
@ So is most first time coaches , finding a coach who can get the backing of the whole team is rare. Not many amazing coaches started that way it takes time, changing coaches n GM has go us no where for 20+ years n nothing but shitty drafts
I enjoy your takes and film breakdown, but you’re old enough to know better. AP has been an embarrassment and definitely needs to go. Doesn’t learn from mistakes, just not a smart coach. And, I backed him when we refused to make a move for Harbaugh . One and done
2 weeks in a row we had the ball in the Red Zone with long 3rd and Goal. Both weeks he ran the ball like a coward and kicked the FG. TAKE A DAMN SHOT!!!!
No he was not set up...there have been other coaches that have done more with less talent, AP accepted oc, qb and bad game calling.. the main problem is lack of HC talent, not qb talent. AP must go...if you continue with AP expect 5 more yr of loosing. Who ever though he was better than Harbaugh?
I don’t think AP deserves another year to prove himself. It was the worst season I can remember since Jamarcus Russell. I don’t necessarily dislike coach Pierce but it’s time to move on. Just my opinion. If he gets another year I will be rooting for him however I think that is the wrong call. Raider Nation Baby!! 🏴☠️
I’m just tired of years on coaching Changes this is out of control why doesn’t Brady kick Mark Davis to the curve and take full control of the team. Explain why Davis is 89-136 since 2011.
Hate to say it but this could end up being a Golden State Warriors situation where Mark Jackson gets replaced by Steve Kerr and then a dynasty begins. A new coach reaps the benefits of a top pick QB with Bowers and a healthy defense - ouch. But if that ends up being the scenario I think Raider Nation will adjust and adapt just fine. Thanks for the energy you brought to the team AP. I think he deserves another year for consistency sake, but Mr. Davis had better be sure the replacement is qualified and gets this team to post season success.
The Raiders are suffering from the curse of Jack Del Rio. Just when they started to have some continuity in the coaching staff and organization as a whole, Mark fires him for John Gruden, then Josh McDaniels and now AP. We all see where they’ve fallen since the Del Rio firing. The Raiders have had more coaches in the last 10 years than the Steelers’ entire history. It’s very telling.
It be stupid to not give him one more year. Dude deserves a chance especially when he’s got no QB
Already
It would be even more stupid to waste ANOTHER year on someone who can’t even manage the game
@@SouthernOregonReps wtf are you talking about? This dude literally has all his superstar players on IR and is playing marry go around with UFL QBs. This year isn’t to win games. Go back to your closet.
You attaching feelings to honestly what does AP do well or great I'll give him motivator but outside of thst he's looked terrible decision making personell the antics game management hell has he even won a Challenge he clearly can't even do that correctly he seems way over his head and because the other coaches in our division have real football knowledge AP is being humbled! Oh and why did he touch the offense from last year in replacement of Minshew and Getsy
He had the same QB that went 5-4 for him last season, he just didn't name him the starter, or give him an OC that wasn't a proven trainwreck. No competent OC is coming to the Raiders to play under AP on the last year of his deal - we'll be scraping the coaching dregs for another Getsy!
Life isn't fair. This season is a combination of factors. AP jumped straight from LB coach right? As much as we like him, he’s over his head. Raiders don't own a favour for anybody. We need a real HC.
Pierce was handed a can of pork n beans and everybody expected him to make a gourmet meal.
He built his staff and made business decisions. He’s the worst coach in the league. He started Gardner Minshew. You people only have excuses instead of reasons for success.
I have been behind AP since last year. Would have bummed out if he wasn't hired. But, if Harbaugh was hired instead i would have eventually gotten over it. I still stand by AP for next year as well!
Yes sirrr
All day.
Still with AP. Raiders never really had an chance due to injuries, OL is not there, QB also.
After John Madden and Tom Flores, the Raiders are still looking for a head coach🏆🏆🏆
Jon Gruden had them on the verge of a Super Bowl twice and the Raiders got screwed.
@ not good enough we’re talking Super Bowl champion head coaches🏆🏆🏆
He deserves nothing except a thank you from Raiders Nation for a great Tank Job. I doubt he stays for another season. AP is a LB’s coach that got a nice bag 💰
Well said! You only deserve what you have earned.. and 2-17 hasn’t earned 💩
He's gone guys and I'll tell you why he made a lot of bad coaching calls on his decisions that cost us games so yeah
No
He deserves another season
This season was crazy from the get go
I'm tired of firing coaches every darn yr
Absolutely
How has he earned another year? You must be okay with 2 -17
And I'm tired of mediocre coaching every darn year.
@@MidwestRaiderTho when you loose you desearve NOTHING
@@sanchopansa35 no one's asking for a handout silly asking for continuity have a good day
Keep AP but get rid of Telesco. He’s responsible for this disaster. Josh Jacobs had an interview and said AP isn’t running the show. If it was up to AP we’d have kingsbury, Jacobs, Adams, penix jr, and would be winning games. You turncoats felt the same way about Graham a few years ago blaming him instead of Mcdummy and now your on his nuts… After he got his players! AP all the way with his guys.
Our Raiders fans wanted Mark Davis too hire Antonio Pierce and it backfires big time. The next big mistake was signing Gardner Minshew as quarterback and starting him as our No-1 quarterback “fail”. Over Aiden O’Connell.
Telesco signed Minshew and Pierce started him.
Fire Pierce foe hiring loser luke getsy.
No Josh McDaniels as Vrabel’s OC, please NO THANK YOU Carl
I don't want it either but we're talkin about Vrabel here.
Yes he's had a fair shot. But! That doesn't mean it's reasonable to fire the man. What does that say to the next coaches, players and staff??? It means that no matter the outcome the Raider franchise isn't willing to build with you. So it's a huge mistake to let him go. Not only because he's a leader and needs time to grow. But also for the owners and management to learn how to develop top to bottom. How can you build culture if you don't run through tough times and place confidence in people that are willing to grow and love the organization?
Wow, I never thought of that 🧐. Nice vid!
No QB and all the injuries from the get go. He didn't have chance to succeed.
He had the same QB that went 5-4 for him last season, he just didn't name him the starter, or give him an OC that wasn't a proven trainwreck.
I believe most of the responsibility falls on Telesco alone.
It's sad but it's business and if the fans want a winning team changes have to be made, right? Fans equal money and money equal winners
Unfortunately it is, it started with the QB choice before training camp.
Then with clock management, play calling Offense and Defense, he just didn’t step up, allocated too much to his coordinators didn’t involve himself enough, appeared to be over his head.
He could and will get better, I wouldn’t hate seeing him come back.
Fair? This is the NFL. You win or you get fired. There are no excuses for a 2 win season. In Pierce's own words: His resume is on the field.
People made business decisions
@@JM-tw3rr Mark Davis is the problem.
I’ve been asking you about this for a while now. It does seem like AP won’t be back. I think Brady has a lot more pull with the organization than we might know. But we need to tank to get our QB. So one thing at a time. Shaduer will be scooped up if we don’t lose the rest of our games.
He cannot manage the sideline/game. Period. And there were several times this season where it was clear he was lost like a deer in headlights. He should never have put in that position.
Carl I love your videos and have been subscribed for a long time but dammit, don’t you ever put Josh McDaniels coaching this team in ANY capacity into the atmosphere ever again!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Vrabel would at least consider it. It's not what I want either.
After he said Were The Worst Team in NFL, Then Mark Davis should of FIRED him! "If" he fired its just going to show the Rest of The Leauge we got 13 coaches in 25 years. Thirteen....
These Raiders teams need to face the truth, he fired them up and they damn near won. He’s honest and he’s a leader. He’s what the raiders need to get back right.
The only and solely reason I says he should be fired is because he chose getsy and didn’t choose AOC over Gardner
It's fair and it should happen AP isn't innocent in how he handled the team this year he is 2-12 awful
Hell NO I really hope Mark Davis learns from his father's mistakes of hiring and firing coaches that shit never works out
Yes Fire him. Raiders need a good coach. An QB big time , that's for next year so atleast the raiders will win games .
Apparently Sheduer Sanders has been working with Tom Brady for quite some time, seems to me if Sanders became our QB the work between them would continue with Brady becoming a mentor and possibly a trainer. My question though is why Brady isn't helping any of our current QB's?
Clearly, we need a good OC to turn this offense around... what competent OC is going to come to the Raiders to play under AP on the last year of his deal?? No one - we'll just be scraping the coaching dregs for another Getsy!
I think one that has aspirations to be a HC would come. Someone that would see this as an opportunity to progress. Or one that is just content with being a OC
I think Davis regrets not keeping Bisaccia. We keep having 35-50% winning players- so he doesn’t want a complete tear down and rebuild.
So now running with the interim is the shot but the 2 year contract incase it goes bad.
And no matter how much we all like AP- he is becoming the worst HC we ever had. If isn’t a tank- then this is the worst experiment ever done
AP is all talk and from the pictures that are being released of him being out gambling at 3am prior to a game makes sense why he looks lost on the sidelines. AP has to go it was a mistake hiring him we should have gotten Harbaugh.
Yeah I’m pretty sure they’re gonna pursue Ben Jonson. Hopefully
Ben Johnson as head coach all day
Why would he want to take over such a terrible team with a garbage owner?
@ because if mark offers him a bunch of money probably won’t say no
@@aminjames9243 If I were a betting man, I'd be putting money on Ben Johnson going to Cincinnati. If the Bengals fire Zac Taylor, Cincinnati automatically becomes the best coaching job because of Mr Joe Burrow. Johnson will go there or Chicago to work with Caleb. He isn't coming to Vegas.
Raiders' main issue will always be not trusting someone to do the entire job, namely GM and HC's inability to choose their own OCs and DCs, as well as position coaches. I think that's one of the reasons they never get really close to hiring people like Sean Payton or even Jim Harbaugh. Why would they come if they can't make those choices? They know they will be 'stuck' with people (Who hired Getsy, for instance?). It was fine when (younger) Al was there and knew more about football than 99.9% of the people out there. But you can't do it like that now. Mark is not his father. I'm afraid they're going to fire the GM before he even gets a chance to fix some of this. I've heard people callling for his dismissal. Raiders need stability. You can't run it like a reality show.
I don't think it is. If he does, that defines our organization, instability and gives up on coaches quickly.
What makes you think that Mark Davis is some sort of evil genius that's able to concoct a plan to hire AP just so that he could fire him one year into his contract? 13 years of him running this organization show that he's not that clever.
Also, if Rich Bisaccia is such a great HC, then why hasn't any other team hire him as their HC?
I believe all that you just said was crap about making the job look pretty so they can fire AP. I think Davis gave him a two year deal because he didn’t want to burry himself under another multi year contract at full price. AP is also giving Davis a hometown discount too. He’s not paying multi millions a year like Harbaugh wanted. Davis is buried with old HC contracts still from Gruden and JM. They’re both doing each other a favor in a way. I don’t think there’s some elaborate scheme behind the scenes to lure in and trap a HC! That’s ridiculous.
I have to be honest and say that it's really hard to tell.Except for some of the decisions that I've seen him do on the field shows that he doesn't have the experience, but who knows?If that's part of the tanking so it's hard to tell this might be all about the giraffe who knows
AP has to go. Just like McDaniel had to go.
Both had no QB
Both had a year and a half
Both had injuries
If you wanted Josh gone, you should want AP gone
AP said hes under contract
Fair shot or not. It’s the mismanagement for me. Simple things that he should know as a player. Timeouts at the wrong time. Not knowing when to kick a field goal or go for it. Not disciplining players
Please don’t take this the wrong way but at this point I don’t care if he hit a fair chance or not, I just want the Raiders to win and whom ever can do this I’m all onboard with at this point
It’s going to be Tommy’s decision he’s going to be head of football operations
I would like to see him stick around. BUT he's not free of blame. As a HC the buck stop with him, he should have made AOC the QB. Is AOC the end all he all answer? Hell no, but he's better than Minshew.
Pierce has shown terrible game management qualities. Bad understanding or risk vs reward and now that they're eliminated from everything they have more to lose from winning games.
The coaching staff is also questionable... So many former HCs on the staff and yet there's a lot of distinction within the team.
Idk, we'll see what happens. I think either option on the table makes sense
We need oline depth, couple free agent splashes
No it's not fair!
To be fair peirce knew he needed an OC and a plan .
He picked the guy he wanted but Telesco didn't want to pay him remember 🤔
No it's not fair to fire him
He picked Gardner Minshew
AP DESERVES ANOTHER YEAR JUST LIKE MCDANIELS HAD TWO YEARS!
PEOPLE FAIL TO REALIZE THAT AP DOESN'T MAKE THE FINAL DECISIONS TOM TELESCO AND MARK MAKES THE FINAL DECISIONS ON PERSONAL.
AP WANTED JAYDEN DANIEL'S BUT TOM TELESCO SAW THINGS DIFFERENTLY!
AP DIDN'T WANT GETSY HE WANTED KINGSBURY BUT TOM MADE THE FINAL CALL!
AP DEFINITELY DESERVES ANOTHER SHOT WITH A TEAM THAT HAS REAL TOOLS TO SUCCEED LIKE MCDANIELS HAD WHEN HE WAS HIRED AND TOOK OVER THE RAIDERS ! MCDANIELS HAD A PLAYOFF TEAM BUT THEN HE DISMANTLED IT, AND AP TOOK THAT TEAM AND STARTED TO TRUN IT AROUND LAST YEAR!
AGAIN AP DOESN'T HAVE FULL CONTROL HE DOESN'T MAKE THE FINAL DECISIONS ON PLAYER PERSONAL.
Draft Travis Hunter if available
we "Raiders", do not know how to play instinctive foot ball on the offensive side of the ball in my opinion. My reasons run deeper than this, but in a nut shell. It's like learning any thing from a text book which are ideal situations. then hit the real world just to find things to be a little more complex.
FIRE HIM
I have a lot of mixed feelings about this. on one hand, understanding a coach cant come in and just fix it. but when you see the small sample size that it does work, it makes you re-think everything. How many first round qbs turn out as busts and dont work out? how many coaches dont work out. But, you see what happens when a coach or qb work out. I am at the stage now that let him stay. We had the opportunity to replace, now I dont see one good enough, so why not wait? and let him develop. but what cant happen is a restructure every single bump in the road. you have to start winning at some point. and if you have a vision, you have to execute said vision. I'll point out what he said about being a run first team and Jacobs was our guy. He left. Z. White looked way better last year. maybe the scheme or play call or lack of players, but something happened. and now all of a sudden we can run? We have same HC and same players, so was it a HC or OC problem? who is in charge of making those decisions. only the front office knows. so, i feel like all of those things determine how fair an extra year or a firing really is.
you fire him if you have Gruden to come back.
No, Just hire/pay for the top OC, QBC, OLC and RBC. Just like the Ravens do, only better. Yes, the defense is solid, for now. AP is a solid motivator and realist. LETSGO
He's so solid he got us 2-12 lmao 😂 no thanks
Timmy Telesco should be fired Total miscalculation on minshew Gardner and Josh Jacobs
Not droppin a bag on Jacobs was the smart move.
Any credit for drafting Bowers an Glaze?
Timmy? You mean Tom?
I definitely agree with you about Mishew and Jacobs but Telesco first draft looks promising. Bowers, Powers and Glaze have potential to be solid starters for years to come.
I mean he never really had a shot with his QB situation 😅. Don’t start crying about AOC either cause he ain’t it 😂
Already
MCdaniels had no qb either… but I guess that’s different 🤦
Would of been nice to watch 12 start the season...see we need to develop a qb...we sat ours on tge bench for 6 weeks ...watching shidd show minshew...
@@SouthernOregonReps He did have a Pro Bowl QB but scape goated him...
Facts!!!!!!
Raiders need to take BPA
I say give AP another season. Every1 screaming for his firing will be on here next Season Crying that the New Coach hasn't got the team buying in on his shit. If AP can't W1N with Shedeur or Ward, fixed O-Line and Healthy Defensive front then i would look into moving on. But like i said...Brady is evaluating situation so stay tuned.
No because we can really see that we are tanking it's not Antonio Pierce fault at all I'm tired of the raiders firing the head coach every 2-3 years
Get a competent coach and we wouldn’t have to
Give him another year NoQb no running back OC that sucks Getsy nothing fault
5 QBs in 1 1/2 years, No QB1, No RB1, No WR1, Oline couldn't push a button. Yet AP is supposed to win with a worse offense than got JMD fired. SMH, AP didn't stand a chance like most Black American HCs. Richard Sherman was right! Then somehow he's supposed to win with QB3, RB3, and no WR1 and a Online that's getting zero push on MNF. Fans quitting on the coach before the TEAM is crazy to me.
Minshew was in the Pro Bowl last year. Not exactly a 3rd string QB.
No WR1????? What the hell was Adams?
RB3? Mattison was supposed to be a big Free Agent acquisition. White went viral for his bulked up body and was considered a legit option.
AP is a linebacker coach, not a HC.
If Gruden coached this team the record would be alot better, the team severely underperformed , and Minshew was fine and dandy with the colts last year, if he would have put his foot down and started Aidan from week 1 I believe this team would be in better shape, a
I think AP might be in over his head ,he was retained because that's what the players wanted and it's good practice for ownership not to souly listen to what the players want, take it into account ,sure, but as the main priority? Never. It's time to for a reality check, Jim Harbaugh, Andy Reid,and Sean Payton, 3 h.o.f. HCs are the competition, the Raiders can't waste another year ,they need someone who can compete at that level, I'm not even sure Vrabel is that guy, I know one coach who was unfairly removed from his job who could though. Bring Gruden back ,,he had the team back on track just keep him away from the draft.
Absolutely. He was never ready for the job. Line coach that never head coached in college or the pros. A rookie. He's done a horrible job. The Raiders have never been worse. He has to go.but remember, We all wanted him to get his shot. Mark Davis relented and gave us all what we wanted, and kept him on. He's had a fair chance.
Yeah come to think about it other than the draft going ok ever since Tom was hired the raiders didn’t look like they did the following year
You get what you get. Let’s stop the conspiracy theories!
😭😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂 I WAS NEVER FOR THIS GUY I only rock with him cuz most of the nation vouched for him , in all my videos from the JUMP I SAID I WANTED EITHER HARBAUGH OR PEYTON 💯, now fans even some OG fans crying it ain't fair cuz he didn't have a QB n this n that , a QB dont defined your weaknesses in being a coach , PATRICK GRAHAM HAD NO REAL PEICES TO HIS DEPTH OTHER THAN MAX , everyone else was either hurt or playing different positions and it turned out good for him CUZ HIM BEING AN EXPERIENCED COACH HELP HIM ELEVATE HIS HIS TECHNIQUES. Pierce dosent have that knowledge and hes no motivator, mark Davis has been kind enough to listen to fans and look where it has gotten him yeah nothing but bashing and trash talking and for some of us yelling sell the team I even been on that wagon cuz of the dumb decisions he's made as owner of this team , but for a man who's father left him outta the spot light and not teaching him the game of this whole operation what do you expect and for people trying to run him outta the NFL hes learned by the years it dosent take trust it takes smarts and money moves and now that MARK DAVIS dosent want to give AP another shot even OG fans are crying ITS NOT FAIR well life's not fair and he just happened to be the last one that mark saying i like you but I have to let you go , it's part of the game you win some you lose some but you live to see another day and move forward and maybe that second chance you get you learned from the pass but I can't keep you if you can't learned from the on going mistakes you keep making as my head coach . With this all being said bring in MIKE V keep PG keep SCOTT TURNER yeah I said it and go out and GET JAXON DART OR DILLON GABRIEL OR SANDERS AND PUT THE REST OF THE PIECES TOGETHER AND LETS START WINNING SOME FOOTBALL GAMES , RAAAAAAAIIIIIIIDDDDEEERRRRS .
You don't get a fair shot, you get a shot and its up to you what you make happen.
He’s just not qualified wake up he got a season and a half under his belt we need excellence not an apprentice.
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AP isn’t a Real Coach.. Terrible with Time Management and Doesn’t call Plays on Offense OR Defense. Dudes got 2 Go ✌🏼
you pierce defenders are incredible this guy couldn't manage a lemonade stand, ok he didn't have good talent but have you watched the awful game management use of timeouts etc... Raiders have been down double digits in every game this year only the second team in NFL history to do that (other was 86 colts who fired their coach after 13 games) , they have One recovered fumble on defense and if they don't get two more they will set or tie the NFL record for least fumbles recovered in a season. This is a historically bad job by pierce, get rid of him.
All this, "AP had no QB" is garbage... he had the same QB that went 5-4 for him last season! All he had to do was name him the starter over TO-machine Minshew, and give him an OC that wasn't a proven trainwreck. O'Connell isn't elite, but he isn't a "game-loser" like Minshew - if he started game 1, if we had a competent OC, and if we had some better luck with injuries, then Adams would still be a Raider, and we'd be battling Denver and the Chargers for the final AFC wildcard spot.
fire telesco over ap
Did you say bring back josh mcdaniels?
He deserves another year at least
Based on what? That the team is still playing hard? Lol you can't be serious
@@Ryan-bl5wzyou gunna hold the next HC to these extremely high standards next year too? Playoffs or bust first year? Or is that just AP’s standard?
@@Sammy-ec8crdepends. AP makes incredibly bad in game decisions. He has no idea what he's doing. He doesn't call plays. He's just a glorified cheerleader.
@@Ryan-bl5wz lol so, you’re not going to answer that question?
so he can’t ever improve? Plenty of HC’s don’t call plays.. that’s typically the OC’s job..
@@Sammy-ec8cr has he shown any improvement in game management? No. So why would it magically be better next year? AP isn't head coach material. It's ok. Not everyone can be a good head coach.
look if you put him back in there , and he cant win ? then what waste another year ? where is the coach them up he proved he cant do that , so you have to do what you need to do ! fire him and move on ! Vrabel would be good for Raiders, he has something to prove this time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No he Wasn’t set up to Fail , that’s just Foolish
Nah had to succumb to a last minute oc and shitty qb situation.
You folks are crazy. You have to stop making excuses for this man. He can't make decisions. He's not good on his feet. Aidan OConnell is so much more talented than Minshew and he gave the reigns to the WORST starting QB in football after a full off-season. He doesn't understand how to produce a competent product on the field
Not to even mention his staffing decisions. He has to go. He's so far over his head it's unbelievable you people can't see it
@@Magesty923Pierce wanted Kingsbury as OC and upper management stopped it.
Running game,fix the oline,offensive impact players,rid mental errors
Couldn’t have said it better myself
Facts draft OL to give AOC time in the pocket so he can pick a defense apart he just needs. Encouragement a coach he trust and the organization get behind him n stop saying we don't have a qb
So none of the personnel decisions is on AP an ape what and with what he can work with.
When it comes to personnel and personnel decisions that's all on the general manager.
When it comes to offensive coordinators or defensive coordinators that are hired off the street that's all on telesco.
AP can make a suggestion but anything that has to do with personnel in a building mainly falls on a GM
The way those kids are playing even though they're not that talented is pretty dope because they're being led to be that way buy the head coach.
AP can't play for the players but everything's on the players and the coordinators along with the gm. People get confused on what a coach is actually supposed to do. 😊 AP has done his job
Davis has a history of being enamored with people he was reed no matter what.
Davis wanted Gruden back no matter what and I think that had an impact on Del Rio in 2017. Then he choose McDaniels over Bisaccia because he wanted the Patriots way?
I personally don’t trust Davis to do anything right.
Raiders fans are just like dolphin fans... pathetic.. they was down for him to get hired last year.. Now ur ready to fire him with the mess they have him..Not his fault... So sad
Its sucks how they turn so fast on everyone but still love sorry ass Gruden . AP is a real ass dude who was set up to fail.
His awful game management that's has cost the team several games is absolutely his fault
@ So is most first time coaches , finding a coach who can get the backing of the whole team is rare. Not many amazing coaches started that way it takes time, changing coaches n GM has go us no where for 20+ years n nothing but shitty drafts
Yeah, thats it totally. 😂😂😂@bobjones5825
SOME RAIDERS FANS..OLD SCHOOL RAiders fans knew it was gonna be a disaster...A inexperienced head coach,No WAY.. RAIDER FAN SINCE85..
I enjoy your takes and film breakdown, but you’re old enough to know better. AP has been an embarrassment and definitely needs to go. Doesn’t learn from mistakes, just not a smart coach. And, I backed him when we refused to make a move for Harbaugh . One and done
Hit the road jack. Am I the only one that thinks he has no killer instinct 🤔
On top of that he has little coaching experience we need a proven vet
2 weeks in a row we had the ball in the Red Zone with long 3rd and Goal.
Both weeks he ran the ball like a coward and kicked the FG.
TAKE A DAMN SHOT!!!!
No he was not set up...there have been other coaches that have done more with less talent, AP accepted oc, qb and bad game calling.. the main problem is lack of HC talent, not qb talent. AP must go...if you continue with AP expect 5 more yr of loosing. Who ever though he was better than Harbaugh?
I don’t think AP deserves another year to prove himself. It was the worst season I can remember since Jamarcus Russell. I don’t necessarily dislike coach Pierce but it’s time to move on. Just my opinion. If he gets another year I will be rooting for him however I think that is the wrong call. Raider Nation Baby!! 🏴☠️
IF WE DRAFT SANDERS WE WILL BOTTOM FEED FOR ANOTHER DECADE!!!! Cam Ward is Yhe Answer!!!
He should've never got the job to begin with
Y’all wrong for this! 😅
Bye Antonio. This head coaching thing isn't as easy as you thought, now your realizing
AP needa getta chance 2 run it bacc ! 🏴☠️💪🏽
You spelled baCK wrong
We don’t need black Josh McDaniels
Bring Gruden back. Justice for Chucky!
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Ap's A Dead Coach Walking See Ya..
Keep AP he's a good motivational speaker.
Tony Robbins is also a good motivational speaker, but that DOESN'T make him a good coach. AP is in WAY over his head.
I’m just tired of years on coaching Changes this is out of control why doesn’t Brady kick Mark Davis to the curve and take full control of the team.
Explain why Davis is 89-136 since 2011.
Davis has bad instincts and listens to way too many advisors and outside sources.
Raiders will lose 16 in a row. Raiders will not win a game until week 6 of 2025.
Hate to say it but this could end up being a Golden State Warriors situation where Mark Jackson gets replaced by Steve Kerr and then a dynasty begins. A new coach reaps the benefits of a top pick QB with Bowers and a healthy defense - ouch. But if that ends up being the scenario I think Raider Nation will adjust and adapt just fine. Thanks for the energy you brought to the team AP. I think he deserves another year for consistency sake, but Mr. Davis had better be sure the replacement is qualified and gets this team to post season success.
Absolutely Not !
Yes