Tbolt, Ice Punch, HP Grass, big physical move to hit Blissey... you've just described Gengar with Explosion. Gengar might not have Electric STAB, but it has three immunities, ignores spikes, can't be poisoned, and is faster. I bet Jolteon's HP Grass KOs Swampert at that percent. As does MixMence's, as does Zapdos's, as does etc. Electabuzz's 95 base SpAtk is lacking already, without having to put EVs in Atk just to come close to a 2HKO on Blissey.
@@pokeZetts I agree go Cavs. Btw are you the same zetts that plays melee in a certain Midwest state (trying not to be too info revealing if you're the same guy)?
i built a team for Muk’s BL bounty this morning with lead Electabuzz, it’s surprising decent. Tbolt, Ice Punch, Sub, Focus Punch. the 330 speed is killer edit: this was before i saw this guys post, i just was falling asleep last night and thought lead electabuzz as a dug lure, that might work
@@pokeZetts assuming enough spatk to ohko mence with ice punch (176 evs), 216 in speed for 330 and the rest in atk 176 SpA Electabuzz Ice Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Dugtrio: 166-196 (78.6 - 92.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 116 Atk Electabuzz Focus Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Dugtrio: 183-216 (86.7 - 102.3%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO
Zetts I love your enthusiasm for finding new niche uses in gen 3. I'm not a great mons player but I've 'theory crafted' some notable things in games I do play more seriously, it's fun and can be rewarding. I know the feel so well
im currently making a rom hack of emerald where hyper cutter increases the damage of contact moves, kinda like a poor man's tough claws crawdaunt stocks rising
"top 300 multiple times and years of playing" ANY tour exp? This looks like muppetry. If your best result is "top 300 on ladder" after 6 years you might be horrendous.
@@pokeZettsI posted a annoyed reply. I would be embarrassed if it took 6 years to only get top 300 a couple times. That's like 1600 elo, more embarrassing they pretend that's "experienced"
There is something called the super effective swindle, double damage doesn't always mean good damage. Sometimes, a strong neutral stab move, backed by real stats(metagross) is better than having "super effective" coverage, on a mon with mediocre ones.
With Cross Chop and Attract, it's one of the only potentially viable special attackers that isn't walled by Blissey, making Electabuzz one of the most underrated mixed offense mons in the game.
I'm not even sure buzz is the 5th best electric (after zap, mag, jolt, rai). Electrode can boom on blissey/dug and outspeeds aero (needs magnet to guarantee ohko tho). Plus it can twave +1 mence and +2 meta.
I am working on using and tiering EVERY Pokemon in ADV OU as something of a tribute to Jimothy and the OU revival and how many crazy things are getting used. Most of the way there and I’ll say this really does feel like bait cuz my S/A/B tiers are all OU except for Medicham in B, while Raikou tops C and the only proper OU below it is Gyarados. Electabuzz is high E for me, around the likes of Armaldo, Sableye, & Roselia: you can use it if you really try, but you probably shouldn’t. Do agree with this guy on Blissey on S tho. Blissey feels like it’s become even more integral and important since the revival, and can be such a lynchpin that can be hard to fully eliminate in a lot of games, even if you specifically plan for it.
@pokeZetts In all seriousness, I saw this post on Reddit and was hoping someone would make a video on it. I haven't played Gen 3 OU but even I was confused by the list.
Time for the new team archetype, Elec Spam. Zapdos, Jolteon, Raikou, Electabuzz. And since buzz is a discount gar we'll throw in Gengar for good measure. Get a spike or 2 in there and idk maybe insta die to earthquake
I am a camerupt enjoyer, and I frequently build teams with the camel, but there's no way it deserves B tier It's pretty much only here to check zap, gar and jolt, bait pert in and HP grass/explode on it, threaten skarmbliss, occasionally toxic a switch-in, and eventually blow up on something your team cannot break through which is a solid niche, but it reminds a niche ; it's slow, frail to common attacking types and it's not very powerful either (and since it's mixed attacker it suffers EV-wise). and it can't stay in for more than 2 or 3 turns
Funnily enough Jolteon HP ice deals more damage than Electabuzz Ice Punch 252+ SpA Jolteon Hidden Power Ice vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Abra: 120-142 (62.5 - 73.9%) 252+ SpA 30 IVs Electabuzz Ice Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Abra: 117-138 (60.9 - 71.8%)
It’s bait just some random who saw the engagement ABR generated with his personal viability ranking. The difference is ABR is pretty much the best competitive singles player ever so his unhinged takes have to be respected
i just looked at the buzz clacs and its so weak. it needs a lot of support to ko its targets and if it cant ko them they ruin it in return with status or an oko
I hit top 300 in my first month of playing adv using a sample mag skarm aero team. I don't think top 300 off and on for 6 years is much of an accomplishment tbh.
Hi this video came up on my youtube and i randomly clicked on it. I dont really see the point of dunking on this guy, it seems like he just wants to put his voice out into the world somehow. Seems like a kid or just someone underdeveloped. The defensive urge people seem to have where they wanna tell this guy hes dumb or he has no accolades (even if true) seems very dick-measuring-contest and way more cringe than the original post imo
@williamd4866 hey William. are you reacting to the reddit responses, this video, or both? I thought the tone of the video was pretty lighthearted. I imagine the OP would be pleased to see someone actually look into electabuzz and give him a try due to their tier list. as for the reddit comments, imo the OP mostly brought it upon himself by 1) posting an insanely hot take with no explanation and 2) initially refusing to provide an explanation when asked (even trolling a bit in the meantime). im not sure why you perceived them as possibly 'underdeveloped'(??). they're most likely a troll and/or just having fun, probably not someone needing protection from their own reddit posts lol
Tbolt, Ice Punch, HP Grass, big physical move to hit Blissey... you've just described Gengar with Explosion. Gengar might not have Electric STAB, but it has three immunities, ignores spikes, can't be poisoned, and is faster.
I bet Jolteon's HP Grass KOs Swampert at that percent. As does MixMence's, as does Zapdos's, as does etc. Electabuzz's 95 base SpAtk is lacking already, without having to put EVs in Atk just to come close to a 2HKO on Blissey.
bingo! not to mention all the additional utility of wisp/hypnosis/destiny bond etc etc haha
nah that guy was SPITTING! (just ignore the fact that gengar is a better version of ebuzz)
i like this live in particular zetts. i like the theme of testing a theory. "lets find out" energy is really engaging
the ludwig special (thank you! more to come)
Don't let this dude putting electabuzz in B tier distract you from the fact that Donovan Mitchell got a casual 35 points tonight against the Pacers.
this is so true. I need to incorporate more cavs propaganda into this channel
@@pokeZetts I agree go Cavs. Btw are you the same zetts that plays melee in a certain Midwest state (trying not to be too info revealing if you're the same guy)?
i built a team for Muk’s BL bounty this morning with lead Electabuzz, it’s surprising decent. Tbolt, Ice Punch, Sub, Focus Punch. the 330 speed is killer
edit: this was before i saw this guys post, i just was falling asleep last night and thought lead electabuzz as a dug lure, that might work
I thought about lead buzz too! but it looked to me like max speed ice punch doesn't OHKO dug. surely focus punch doesn't either??
@@pokeZetts assuming enough spatk to ohko mence with ice punch (176 evs), 216 in speed for 330 and the rest in atk
176 SpA Electabuzz Ice Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Dugtrio: 166-196 (78.6 - 92.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
116 Atk Electabuzz Focus Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Dugtrio: 183-216 (86.7 - 102.3%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO
unironically that electabuzz is pure bait
Zetts I love your enthusiasm for finding new niche uses in gen 3. I'm not a great mons player but I've 'theory crafted' some notable things in games I do play more seriously, it's fun and can be rewarding. I know the feel so well
As an Electabuzz enjoyer, the placement is insane. It’s a good Pokemon, but its’s not OU for a reason. Missing ranges on so many threats sucks a lot
truly the sceptile of elec types
Very fun video! Really good, keep It up friend
heck yeah! thanks for watching!
there are special contact moves in gen 3 like bite & crunch
@analoghabits9217 this is so true. ive spread misinformation on the internet
im currently making a rom hack of emerald where hyper cutter increases the damage of contact moves, kinda like a poor man's tough claws
crawdaunt stocks rising
overheat, too
At first I was skeptical...now I'm still skeptical, but wanna try it out lol
I added the teampaste to the description lol
I found that the team REALLY needs a ground type and spinner. Added claydol and swampert to the team replacing metagross and salamance
"top 300 multiple times and years of playing" ANY tour exp? This looks like muppetry. If your best result is "top 300 on ladder" after 6 years you might be horrendous.
talk to em lmao
@@pokeZettsI posted a annoyed reply. I would be embarrassed if it took 6 years to only get top 300 a couple times. That's like 1600 elo, more embarrassing they pretend that's "experienced"
regardless of who he is just view electabuzz's viability objectively instead of taking other peoples word for it
@@AttitudeIndicator I already know electabuzz sucks
@@funkymachine electabuzz only sucks in situations where he sucks, he doesn't suck in situations where he doesn't suck
I thought I had seen it all until I stumbled upon zetts electabuzz gaming and realized how little I once knew.
There is something called the super effective swindle, double damage doesn't always mean good damage.
Sometimes, a strong neutral stab move, backed by real stats(metagross) is better than having "super effective" coverage, on a mon with mediocre ones.
@@et34t34fdf imported cheese fan??
@crenando288 Yup
With Cross Chop and Attract, it's one of the only potentially viable special attackers that isn't walled by Blissey, making Electabuzz one of the most underrated mixed offense mons in the game.
top 300 is such a bad brag ahahaha
I'm not even sure buzz is the 5th best electric (after zap, mag, jolt, rai). Electrode can boom on blissey/dug and outspeeds aero (needs magnet to guarantee ohko tho). Plus it can twave +1 mence and +2 meta.
Trode the goat
@benjihuynh2970 low-key was gonna do an upcoming vid on trode 👀
@@pokeZetts I got 10th on the ladder with trode/kingdra HO. I'm a believer!
Lemme throw u a replay for the vid?
@benjihuynh2970 wait this rules actually lmao. hit me up on discord? im 'zettsbro'
I am working on using and tiering EVERY Pokemon in ADV OU as something of a tribute to Jimothy and the OU revival and how many crazy things are getting used. Most of the way there and I’ll say this really does feel like bait cuz my S/A/B tiers are all OU except for Medicham in B, while Raikou tops C and the only proper OU below it is Gyarados. Electabuzz is high E for me, around the likes of Armaldo, Sableye, & Roselia: you can use it if you really try, but you probably shouldn’t.
Do agree with this guy on Blissey on S tho. Blissey feels like it’s become even more integral and important since the revival, and can be such a lynchpin that can be hard to fully eliminate in a lot of games, even if you specifically plan for it.
The biggest mistake is not having Muk on the list
jimothy's influence truly cannot be overstated at this point. Pokémon fandom is becoming synonymous with muk appreciation
@pokeZetts In all seriousness, I saw this post on Reddit and was hoping someone would make a video on it. I haven't played Gen 3 OU but even I was confused by the list.
also UUBL isn't like a mid ground between OU and UU. It would only go to UUBL if it was a problem in UU.
how could something better than jolt simply be allowed in UU
@@pokeZetts the world may never solve such incredible mysteries such as this.
Time for the new team archetype, Elec Spam. Zapdos, Jolteon, Raikou, Electabuzz. And since buzz is a discount gar we'll throw in Gengar for good measure. Get a spike or 2 in there and idk maybe insta die to earthquake
With all the comments explaining things, I've changed my mind about Electabuzz, he's actually a super strong and viable surprise for many ADV teams!
digging the new hair bro
There are so many insane things about this list.
I am a camerupt enjoyer, and I frequently build teams with the camel, but there's no way it deserves B tier
It's pretty much only here to check zap, gar and jolt, bait pert in and HP grass/explode on it, threaten skarmbliss, occasionally toxic a switch-in, and eventually blow up on something your team cannot break through
which is a solid niche, but it reminds a niche ; it's slow, frail to common attacking types and it's not very powerful either (and since it's mixed attacker it suffers EV-wise). and it can't stay in for more than 2 or 3 turns
Funnily enough Jolteon HP ice deals more damage than Electabuzz Ice Punch
252+ SpA Jolteon Hidden Power Ice vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Abra: 120-142 (62.5 - 73.9%)
252+ SpA 30 IVs Electabuzz Ice Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Abra: 117-138 (60.9 - 71.8%)
zett can you post the paste of the zetts hyper offense team please
serene grace blissey
every Blissey I face is serene grace i stg
If it has nearly perfect coverage but hits like a wet noodle, does it actually have any coverage?
It’s bait just some random who saw the engagement ABR generated with his personal viability ranking. The difference is ABR is pretty much the best competitive singles player ever so his unhinged takes have to be respected
amazing team ty
i just looked at the buzz clacs and its so weak. it needs a lot of support to ko its targets and if it cant ko them they ruin it in return with status or an oko
I hit top 300 in my first month of playing adv using a sample mag skarm aero team. I don't think top 300 off and on for 6 years is much of an accomplishment tbh.
to be honest with you, it seems like these end game scenarios could have been handled by a zapdos and jolteon more reliably. am i wrong about this?
Black Belt on Electabuzz next
I literally wanted to and learned it's a gen 4 item today 😂
@@pokeZettsoh you’re thinking of Expert Belt, Black Belt is just the Magnet/Charcoal/Nevermeltice for fighting type moves
Absolutely unhinged username bro lol
its from my Xbox live Halo 3 days lmao
pert didnt even notice that hp grass the mon is trash
electabuzz is "ehhh" in adv ou
that post is 100% someone just saying shit for the sake of it. lol
Electabuzz is mad underated no one sees the vision
Reddit moment
Hi this video came up on my youtube and i randomly clicked on it. I dont really see the point of dunking on this guy, it seems like he just wants to put his voice out into the world somehow. Seems like a kid or just someone underdeveloped. The defensive urge people seem to have where they wanna tell this guy hes dumb or he has no accolades (even if true) seems very dick-measuring-contest and way more cringe than the original post imo
@williamd4866 hey William. are you reacting to the reddit responses, this video, or both? I thought the tone of the video was pretty lighthearted. I imagine the OP would be pleased to see someone actually look into electabuzz and give him a try due to their tier list. as for the reddit comments, imo the OP mostly brought it upon himself by 1) posting an insanely hot take with no explanation and 2) initially refusing to provide an explanation when asked (even trolling a bit in the meantime). im not sure why you perceived them as possibly 'underdeveloped'(??). they're most likely a troll and/or just having fun, probably not someone needing protection from their own reddit posts lol