Inside Jimmy's Mind: How Karen Nearly Got Whacked
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ก.ย. 2024
- Jimmy Conway eliminates practically everyone associated with the 1978 Lufthansa theft at JFK Airport. Karen Hill, his closest friend's wife, is one among those he accuses of knowing too much. Given his deteriorating state of mind, he would want her dead.
But did he truly intend to murder her? And what difference would this have made? - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
Karen went into witness protection, got a degree in psychiatry, assumed a new identity as jennifer melfi, and became Tony sopranos shrink.
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I actually laughed at this 😝, that's funny and clever
She just couldn’t stay away from the life
It's amazing how many Goodfellas actors ended up in The Sopranos.
@@John-zm4xl up until that point Karen was completely oblivious about the danger's of Mob life. After that happened I said "Still think Henry's paranoid Karen".
Jimmy was so sinister with his friendly and good-humoured demeanor as he tried to direct Karen to her death.
See, I don't think that's the case. Jimmy is too smart to loudly shout "go in there" where anyone on the street could see/hear and have her whacked in the warehouse. If she turned up missing and people found out (people as in regular pedestrians just walking down the street), they would immediately pin it on Jimmy.
He could have been feeling her out, see how trusting she is of him in order to whack her at a later time
U gotta do what u gotta do
It's kinda sad knowing that Paul and Ray passed within days of each other this year.
Oh Wow, I didn't know Paul had passed away too. : (
I didnt knew they both passed away
Paul died 1.5 months after Ray. Not days.
@@1roundleft821 that's like 45 days ;-)))
Just be happy we got to see them in a great performance.
Jimmy said earlier in the film that Karen gets over emotional and excited. She was unpredictable. Karen was a loose end.
Okay jimmy.
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nah nah, you insulted her a little
I mean, she literally pulled a gun out on her husband just because he’s outside a lot
@@MikeMulahMusic Actually, he was clearly having an affair too. Any woman would want to do the same.
Karen was smart to not go in that warehouse.
Was that even accurate to what really happened?
Who knows ray Toyota
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Those guys made mistake by placing the boxes in a hurry to barracde entrance and looking obviously suspicious when theyade eye contact with her
@@DMalltheway Karen has said she actually went into the room and left quickly and told henry the room looked like a trap
There is one thing not mentioned in the movie but in the book and several other books. While Henry was away in jail, Karen had affairs with Jimmy, Big Paulie and a few others. Henry left that out of the movie out of respect for his wife and kids. One reason Big Paulie reported okaying the hit on Tommy was because had roughed up Karen because he felt left out
That’s even worse when you think about it. Like as far as how awful Tommy was. He felt left out bc his boss and friends were banging the same woman which is one of his friends wives and he couldn’t so he beat her up. However I don’t believe it was John Gotti sr who killed Tommy.
@@pab1381 The first thing about Henry Hill is that he is the most unreliable story teller. He was nowhere near the "guy" portrayed in Goodfellas. He was a low level hood but because he was around people, he saw stuff and when he got arrested he flipped quickly.
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@@dannyhernandez1212 that is the reason people think Paulie gave the okay to have him wacked
I’m glad that she escaped the mob life and became a therapist for Tony Soprano 😂
What’s so funny?
@@TL2354 Do I make you laugh?
I wanna see a movie about Jimmy two times, jimmy two times.
Nah, Frankie Carbone, the one found frozen in the meat truck. 🥶
F*ck that! Pete The Killer "Yeah, I took care of that 'thing' for you!" is the film I want to see!
How many times do you want to see that film? Two times.
Nah it would take 2x to tell!
@@DavidThomas-fb8bq I'd probably watch it twice watch it twice...
KAREN was having an affair with Paulie, not talked about in the movie.
Because it’s from Henry Hills point of view.
I know it was a thing in real life but I don’t remember this movie actually addressing it
@@Djrexda1 paulie knew how to talk to her, Especially Paulie.
They dropped a big hint but you have to be paying close attention to get it, it's not really overt.
@@AR-hw9zi comment of the ❤🎉 day
In real life they never found Johnny Roast beef and his wife, they just "disappeared".
Jimmy Conway was right about the pink cadillac. Johnny Roastbeef had this facile answer about it being in his inlaws name, but by the time it gets that far, you're already in the weeds answering questions.
"We're not going to get a divorce. We're not animale."
I've seen Goodfellas literally countless times but even when I first saw the film as a little kid, I always assumed Jimmy was 100% looking to either murder or kidnap Karen as a hostage. There were obviously no Dior dresses and a couple of sketchy ass guys who pause in silence upon seeing her peering at them so it was definitely not Karen imagining things. Plus Jimmy's expressions, yelling at her to go inside the building, and frustrated look after she drove away should cement that. It would make sense for Jimmy to intend to kill her right then and there due to his profound paranoia and murder-happy attitude about potential witnesses, but I had it more in my head he was looking to kidnap her as leverage against Henry to lure him over and murder him. Then he would have most definitely whacked Karen too.
Jimmy didn't want to share the money. Like he said in Casino it's all about the dollars.
No Jimmy wanted to Kill everyone off from that Heist that Could get him Pinched . Notice he had Stack Killed because he forgot to get rid of the Truck from the Heist they used and the Other Guy that Walked into the Bar with his Woman in a Mink Coat 🧥 and the Other Guy in the Bar that bought a New Cadillac. Jimmy was getting paranoid as the Movie went on . That's why Henry Knew Jimmy was going to have him Killed when he got Busted . With the Coke
Nicki said that, but I guess he was referring to Sam.
He also wanted the money for himself once he realized how much it was yes he murder other people for being stupid with money so he eliminated them and also wanted to kill henry because henry was the last person who know about the heist lucky for Henry he caught selling drugs and the cops played him a tape of pulie and jimmy saying we will wack him that's what made henry snitch on them
Henry also said in court that he said to Jimmy you tried to get me mutafucka but I got you cocksucker
@@SuperYoungtank pretty much the same with Gotti and Sammy, Gotti having that conversation behind Sammy's back could've got him killed, which led to Sammy testifying against Gotti.
There were obviously no dresses in the warehouse, but I’ve always wondered what Jimmy’s plan here was. I’ve always felt that it was too late in the game to be killing people who were close to the heist, and Karen wasn’t even involved with that. My guess is that he was gonna either kidnap or kill her in order to lure Henry out of his mouse hole. But seeing how the mob doesn’t take prisoners, it seems more like the latter.
If you listen very carefully to the dialog between the two workers in the warehouse, you'll hear them say to "move the box over there to block the window." Then they see her and go "shh, shh" so she doesn't hear them. They already had the plan to kill Karen. They were setting up the room to do that. She just got there a minute too early and overheard them.
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There was an individual inside ready to wreck shop on karen...
@@gilltim5711 she saw them. And that was when she got the fuck outta there.... Jimmy Conway was foul...
@@antbanks1261 Yes, she saw them setting up the crate to block the window. And she heard what they said. That is one of the creepiest moments in the film, or any film! How Scorsese captured that emotion is pure genius.
If anything happened to Karen, though, Henry would have turned state’s witness immediately. He was considering it before but that would have sent him over the edge.
If anything he should have killed them together
The reason Jimmy is afraid Paulie might have him wacked is because Karen and Paulie we're having an affair while Henry was in prison
I read somewhere that Jimmy had told Henry to meet up with Roy Demeo to get something from him.
But Henry was smart; he knew of Roy Demeo's reputation, so he carefully approached the situation.
Henry sent Karen ahead to scout for him (pretty dumb move to risk your wife, but very slimy coming from Henry); Karen did enter the famous murder room by herself.
But Roy made no move on her, Karen said Roy looked surprised to see her and was expecting Henry and only Henry.
Roy had taken out women before, so the reason he hesitated to take out Karen has probably not to spook Henry even more and make it harder to get Henry.
She quickly left the place, and meet up with henry a few blocks away and told him that the place looked like a trap.
That's when Henry decided to give up Jimmy.
There's a documentary on youtube, and Henry Hill was standing outside the Gemini Club, and he said on camera this is where Jimmy told him to meet.
This makes sense but she never tells Henry when she gets back.
Yea, they tried to get hin if thats where they sent him
@@stephencorbitt2752 that’s just the movie to be fair and not reality
Sending your wife as the canary in the coal mine, in this case being the Gemini Lounge with Roy DeMeo waiting, has to be one of the biggest scumbag moves of all time. In fairness to Henry, maybe in a warped way he was right to do it to save his own life knowing that Roy had no business or reason to murder Karen.
@@citypopFM Scummy only if we see Karen as a total innocent, which she's not. After all, she's savvy enough to report back observations to him and Roy wouldn't whack her for the reasons stated above. As his mob wife, she was providing useful intel that saved his life and, in the end, hers as well since without Henry around, she wouldn't be safe. Scummy move? Only in the sense that's what it takes to survive for both of them.
i wish goodfellaa was 4 hours long!
There's only so much of The Rolling Stones I can take! Mind you, if it was longer then George Harrison's Wah-Wah song would definitely have to feature in a bar scene somewhere?
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Guys like Jimmy don’t have friends, they have symbiotic relationships. Once he no longer can use someone, they are gone. Also, if Jimmy had wacked Karen, there would have been no reason for Henry to keep quiet.
“Parasitic “ not symbiotic.
Yeah that’s why he was trying to kill both Henry and Karen.
I always assumed he intended to kidnap her as leverage to lure Henry out and kill him. Otherwise, yeah, murdering her would have only guaranteed Henry would run to the DA for witness protection.
@@antcantcook960ou don’t become rich/powerful like Jimmy by being only a parasite. He had a crew that he relied upon to do stuff and paid them. It’s all about investment vs reward.
"symbiotic". I gotta remember that.
Karen is at a risk of being killed because of the drug dealing (which she was actively involved in) not Lufthansa. The issue with the drug dealing is that Paulie was going to have everyone involved whacked as the penalties for dealing are so high that it risks people snitching (which was true since that’s what Henry did). Jimmy was trying to kill any link between him and the dealing at that point to save his own life.
Speaking facts
I think you've added to the reasons it would be in Jimmy's interest to tie up all his loose ends, rather than refuting the Lufthansa heist as a motive to murder Henry and Karen. It was huge problem for him if they stayed alive, either way you look at it.
In the mid seventies I worked loading and unloading cargo at Kennedy Airport. Every day there was a flight coming in from Iceland that carried a load of caviar which was kept in ice in boxes. One day in particular I remember that while I was busy unloading the plane a unmarked van came up right on the ramp and two guys got out and briefly spoke to the ramp supervisor, my boss, whereupon he told me to load about a dozen boxes of caviar into the van. I did what my supervisor told me to do but later on when I asked him what all that was about he told me that La Costra Nostra had a strong presence at the airport and to never question them. Years before the Lufthansa heist the Mafia was entrenched at Kennedy and was very much aware whenever any valuable cargo was being brought in. They always took a cut of anything valuable and nobody dared question them.
I would not believe anyone who told me that this isn't still going on. The airports, the docks, wherever cargo comes in or goes out.
No. According to Henry Hill (watch Goodfellas with the director's commentary w/ former USAtty Ed McDonald) Jimmy planned to kidnap Karen and hold her as leverage so Henry wouldn't cooperate with the FBI. Jimmy wasn't going to have her killed in that scene with the dresses, which takes place after Henry is busted but before he goes into Witsec. Jimmy still needed Karen alive at that point in the timeline--at least until he could eliminate Henry before he gave the FBI any incriminating information.
Henry Hill was an unreliable and constantly lying alcoholic, drug & pill addict. So we don't know if anything Henry claimed over the years was true. Many of his claims were contradicted by other sources.
@@anthonyinzerillo2804 Yeah but in this case Henry's claim makes sense (and there's nothing to contradict it). Karen was the only bargaining chip they had over him at that point. If they whacked her then Henry's only recourse would have been to run to the FBI. They needed to keep her alive long enough to get to him. No doubt her death would follow his. That was the smart move.
Nahh. If Jimmy want he and his men kidnap Karen. Not nesseraly that clothes gift plan.
Jimmy gave the Kiss of Death in view of his henchmen at the dress warehouse
Funny how lifw gets so real after all the good times
Yup...boogie nights also
Karen was smokin hot!
Both Lorraine Bracco and the real Karen Friedman Hill.
I think he was really giving her some clothes but when she showed fear he realized then that Henry and Karen were afraid of him and would flip.
Nitpick: It's not normal for mobsters to take care of their crews' families. That was the case in The Godfather (fictional, of course), but you see in Goodfellas that nobody much cared about anyone else's family when Henry went to prison and told Karen that they were on their own.
Stark reality vs robinhoodish mobster lore are 2 different things
Henry wasn't made though. I'm sure you would have to be at least made in a family for that kind of treatment
@@rhys2040 Admittedly it's been a while, but I got the sense from the book that it was that way for everyone, made or not.
@marka4891 what are u talking about? Paulie took care of Karen when Henry went to jail😉
@@frankiecheech5262 "Took" "care" of her indeed.
And when Tommy wanted to "take" "care" of her, he was taken care of. :D
Morrie's wigs don't come off until Jimmy wrapped a telephone cord around his neck
not realizing the cord was actually made in Philadelphia circa the 1960s
However, if that cord was made in China then the "Morrie's wigs don't come off" line just might have proved true.
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Legend has it karens dad has still not digested a decent meal
That scene is insanely eerie.
You're in the life if your boss tells you not to do something you don't do it you follow directions like a soldier and they did not listen
Neither did Stacks, he sure couldn't follow orders. I'm glad to know I can somewhat. 😂, My excuse would be I ran outta ⛽.
@@chrismcnemar6705 🤣😂🤣😂 that is pretty funny but I think he would have still got killed though he should have just completed his job that he was supposed to do
The biggest misconception is that Jimmy was calling the shots on who got whacked. In reality, Jimmy killing anyone without permission from Paulie would mean BIG trouble for Jimmy. If he had decided to kill Karen spur of the moment - and actually succeeded - Jimmy would have to answer to Paulie for the murder. In the mob, killing without permission from a boss is punishable by death.
If it's killing a 'made ' guy then yeah .
That only applies to made guys
@@PumpernickelBread25 All guys. Anyone who is part of a crew has certain protections. Henry wasn't made, but there's no way in hell that Jimmy would get away with whacking him without Paulie's permission.
@@murfdog19 why not . He wacked Morrie.
@@daveyboy_ In real life, everyone who was killed after the heist was approved by Paulie.
How did he just come up with that plan in the spur of the moment when he already had 2 men in there waiting for her, how would they have known what to do then 😂
That's what I was saying many times in the comments. Who in their right mind would end a random person without an explicit order to do so? It's either sloppy writing or Jimmy was going to have her detained and then ended off. No way she was going to get whacked on the spot, like everyone here seems to think.
Funny how I watched this yesterday and was wondering what Jimmy had planned, I'm thinking he wanted to scare her into telling them what she knows.
Jimmy told Henry to tell Belle(Morrie's wife) that Morrie ran off with some broad after Morrie got whacked.
Problem was Morrie was not a Mad Man just a associate that means he had no Protection . And the Way Morrie was acting it was just a matter of time before they wacked him off
@@robertrodriguez787 Yeah he thought they were his friends.
@@robertrodriguez787 True, and I would have honestly expected Morrie to get offed far earlier than he was. Dude was on less than thin ice in nearly every scene he was in.
Morrie owed money to just about everyone and had a knack for finding excuses and stalling on paying off his debts. In the long run getting rid of that deadbeat was more than justified.
Karen was also sleeping with Paulie at around that time its unlikely she could be killed with no repercussions
Not if they didn't know plus Karen was just someone he was Sleeping around with . You think there wasn't another Karen out there Paulie could have gotten . It's the Wives and Kids of a Made Man 👞♂️ that are Hands off 📴 .Plus your Forgetting Paulie Turned his Back on Henry . Who was Protected by Paulie which is Why no one Tried to kill Henry until Paulie turned His Back on Henry that it was Open Season On Henry and Karen.
@@robertrodriguez787 i doubt jimmy could kill paulie side piece he wasnt made either. I dont think it was that big of a secret Michael franzese knew about it and he was in a different family, and women and children are hands off in general everybody wanted Henry dead not Karen.
How do you know that ?? Did I missed that on the movie ??
@@topMonger Michael franzese has a TH-cam channel and he talks about this stuff all the time most of the mob thats still alive from back then has a TH-cam channel
@@dannybowers4133 that explains why she was so paranoid about Henry cheating on the first place, it’s like a manipulation tactic
Lufthansa was Morrie's baby . He was also the guy - along with Henry who came up with shaving Points in College B-BALL and the reason that they got in to the Terminal is because Henry devised a plan to snatch the key from the security guard . Hence at the scene at the bar Jimmy kisses Henry and says ,' this man's a genius ' . Didnt you read the book ?
I'm glad someone pointed this out. I was wondering what that scene was about
Lol it’s painfully obvious what it meant and that she was gonna get whacked
@@F150fx2sporTnot really. I was wondering why he wanted her dead is my point lol
Henry said, "We paid off judges. We paid off cops. We paid off lawyers. Everyone had their hand out." Wouldn't that knowledge complicate things when it comes time to prosecute and sentence them?
Although I know everybody liked him which is stated but Stacks was different level stupid. You just pull one of the biggest robberies of all time and instead of getting rid of the vehicle that was used you get high and fall asleep somewhere??
The "don't walk" sign and "one way" sign are significantly overshadowed by Smith Street and West 9 Street, a play on the name Smith and Wesson. Brilliant.
A yet unknown Samuel L. Jackson? 😂😂😂. He was in School Daze, Do The Right Thing, Coming to America and the Cosby Show before Goodfellas 😂😂😂😂
"Some" people don't know about what they don't know about; im not surprised 😬
In addition to the don't walk sign and the one-way sign, there was also a dead-end sign. The perfect place to committ a murder is in a place with cleaners or painters because all the plastic sheets on the ground make the execution site easy to sanitize.
An associate can kill who he wants as long as it isn't a made man..
For a made man to be killed, you have to have a sit-down and you better get an ok. Otherwise you'd be the one who got whacked. Henry Hill
yeah but you can't go around like some psycho just killing anybody you want to. That's how Tommy got himself whacked
@@shaunsteele6926 Tommy got killed primarily because he killed a made man without permission to do so.
I’m not sure Jimmy ordered Morrie to be killed. He called it off during poker and seemed irritated that it happened while he was in the car.
Either way, the lesson is to not sit in the front seat when Tommy is in the back seat.
In reality, it wasn't Tommy who killed Martin Krugman (the guy who Maurie was based on).
Angelo Sepe (Frank Carbone in the movie) is generally accepted as being the one one who killed Krugman, pretty much certainly on the orders of Jimmy.
The guy wanted half a million dollars as his share of Lufthansa, and was pestering constantly for it.
Sepe wasn't killed by Jimmy and left in a freezer truck, as Carbone was in the movie.
Him and his Mrs were taken out at home by a professional hit team with silenced firearms, probably over robbing a load of cocaine from dealers who were backed and financed by another Lucchese family crew.
Morrie didn’t deserved to get whacked.
Yes he did 😂
Yeah he did, he had a big mouth. A liability just like Tommy was.
When you see the real Henry Hill, you will notice that he's a dead ringer for Joe Pesci. But Scorsese, coward that he is, was unwilling to do what the Sopranos show runners did and show Hill for the weasel like character he is and instead got a good looking ladies man to play him instead.
In an scene that was edited out, we do see that when Karen goes into the place, an alarm goes off and confetti starts dropping everywhere, then a sign rolls down from the ceiling that says, "ONE MILLIONTH CUSTOMER!" She was given all kinds of prizes and people were cheering. Wisely, Scorsese decided it wasn't needed.
Karen was almost killed because Henry got busted for Drugs and she was his accomplice not because of the heist
When Tommy is about to be "Made", he says to his mother 'Please don't put more religious picture'. Why did he say that to his devoted mother?
Paint. Perhaps Tommy was afraid of the afterlife as he knew he was a bad case, a bad seed?
His Soul was Dammed!
I think he said "please don't paint more religious pictures". Maybe his mom was into that
She was REALLY hot in that movie. Shit, she was still that way in the Sopranos. Good looking woman
Karen did the smart thing
“You know what we’ll do? We’ll hang ‘em in the freezer wit da meat.” Frankie Carbone should not of bought his wife that mink coat!
Wow I noticed they put him in da freezer like to say where is your coat now
maybe Karen just missed out on some lovely stolen dresses and he never intended to whack her
...How the hell did I not realize that Stacks Edwards was Sam L Jackson? feelin' pretty dumb right now haha
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Karen was sleeping with Paulie……
Karen got scared so bad that she changed her name to Jennifer Melfi and went into the psychiatric field, ending up in New Jersey.
1) Karen had absolutely no connection to Tommy getting whacked. 2) Hostages? Nah
I still argue with people about this scene. Of course, he wanted to get rid of her. Anyone connected with the crime was a liability.
Absolutely one of the greatest movies of all time ! It’s like - if you were going to be stranded on a desert island for a year and could only have one movie you could watch - would this be the one ?
Before the I'll fated Florida trip Jimmy complains to Henry about Karen commisserating with his wife and he "couldn't have it". He was worried about her for a long time, even before things went bad.
Jimmy was not a made man, neither was Tommy or Henry. Jimmy would've definitely killed Karen. They did what they wanted, you should've knew that when they killed Batts. One mobster Jimmy relates to to me is Roy Demeo.
Exactly why I'm a law bidding citizen
Me too!
I thought mob rules family is off limits. But they both are associates and not made men.
There may be no such thing as mob 'rules.'
Well they also have a rule about killing there own but that didn't stop Jimmy from killing people from that heist job he pulled . Or them Killing Tommy . Fact is they killed anyone they thought 💭🤔 would turn on them . Plus that's for Made Men not Associates . Now the reason no one Tried to kill Henry or his Wife was because He was Protected by Paulie . But when Paulie Turned His Back on Henry . It was Open Season on Henry and Karen
They break more rules than the catholic church
They can't risk the family talking to the feds.
Yes traditionally it is against the rules to kill the woman and children unless they think the wife could rat. when I was kid in Philly though. The two rival families were in a blood war. The one boss who was from the old country(Italy) ordered that hit. The crew turned on him so he went in Federal custody etc.
Scorsese is a genius for the one way don’t walk sign
That's the problem with robbers..
U could have a crew of 5, Tell everybody before the crime to not spend a dollar for x amount of years ( statute of limitations) play broke and go just get a Job and wait And at least One person is gonna end up pulling up a new truck with jewelry on, new clothes and shoes and flashy within 48 hrs of the Robbery.
And it be that dummy to pull up in the back seat of a squad car to your house handcuffed talking bout..
" They got us man, they got us" 🤣
Very true
Wait how is it her fault Tommy got killed?
I was never sure if she was actually in danger or if she was just imagining it. I can't really think of a reason why Jimmy would want to have her killed
Because he realized she knew too much and Jimmy was paranoid. .
Normally Karen would have been off limits because she wasn’t in American La cosa nostra, but Jimmy wasn’t a made man. And therefore, would have had her whacked for sure.
Actually this is just an artistic technique in film making. Leaving a few loose threads and insinuations in the narrative enhances the sense of paranoia. This is exactly what the director was doing, nothing more.
Interesting theory. Though I think he planned it for 2 reasons, 1. The money he gives her “take this it’s a couple of thousand” no doubt he said to the guys that were gonna do it, she’ll have the money. For her own death as well which makes it even crueler! Also Jimmy may have given her the money as he didn’t want to do it himself or see the aftermath either way he wanted to not get his own hands dirty.
2 is his reaction when she leaves, the look of frustration and disappointment “so close” was the look. I think Jimmy had planned to kill no matter what she said or knew.
Paulie cared about Karen because he was sexing her. Lol 😂
Who was on top? Karen or Paulie? 😄😄😄
EVERY TIME I watch the movie, when DeNiro’s character starts killing everyone involved in the heist, I think the SAME THING. Why didn’t someone take DeNiro OUT? It had to have been obvious what was going on. He just got away with it. No repercussions. Man!!
I honestly don't think he would have killed Maury because he did call off the hit but then he kept on bugging for the money if he wouldn't have bugged and asked one more time I think he would have been alive
Or he may have been setting Maury up . I mean unless You know what Jimmy was Thinking . See it's like Henry said Getting Wacked ain't like in the Gangster movies you see on TV. There Are no Cross words . Your Enemies come at you with Smiles . Which means you never Know who is going to want to Wack you
@@robertrodriguez787 you think that could be true but he didn't know that he was going to get killed and why would Jimmy shake his head no Maury didn't know
@@robertrodriguez787 but I get what you're saying I honestly don't think that he was going to kill him
@@robertrodriguez787 do what I'm trying to say there was no reason for Jimmy to call the hit off if you get what I'm saying he was the boss of the family it's not like he was a soldier
@@natejoe9924 was not the Paulie was . To be the Boss meant he would have had to been a Made Man ♂️ and because he was Not A Full Blooded Italian meant he was a Worker and a associate just like Henry was . I mean Carbone and Tommy were more Italians then Jimmy ever was .
So you basically summarize Goodfellas...
Few people recognize that she has the best female role in a mafia movie - Lorraine Bracco is on ! No wonder she played the shrink in the Soprano series - cuz she is not only willing ... she is bloody able ... I like her 🤗👌
Why did Henry look paranoid about the Christmas tree in his own home , like as if jimmy was watching his house 😂
He was a coke head, so he was extremely paranoid in the years leading up to his arrest
I figured he just wanted her to think she was to be "whacked"... a mind game ...
He didn’t kill her because she was Tony Soprano’s shrink
"Think Henry tells his wife everything?"
“Morrie’s wigs don’t come off”
At the 0.33 mark. "Based on the 1985 novel, "Wiseguy..."
"Wiseguy", by Nicholas Pileggi, was not a novel. It's a non-fiction book chronicling the life of Henry Hill, mobster associate turned informant.
You're right, and I appreciate you pointing that out. I was thinking about my video on The Godfather when I made this, and I mistakenly called Wiseguy a novel. Thanks for catching that.
Great analysis. Learned a few things.
Wouldn't killing Karen first simply have Henry go into hiding quicker?🤔
Karen was one of the reasons why Tommy got killed? I thought the only reason he was killed because he whacked a made guy Billy Batts.
He also killed a guy related to John Gotti crew.
I used to rehearse in Brooklyn for years and get off on 4th ave and 9 street station right where that scene was filmed at all hours of the night for years. Most people would probably call that area Smith and 9th street. Its truly a creepy place and a great location for a scene like that. I rehearsed music there because its in a mostly industrial area of Brooklyn filled with old style factories and not many if any houses whatsoever. Its not too far from civilization, its Brooklyn afterall, but within like a 5 block square radius or so the place is practically desereted and bands played music there so the loud music at all hours wouldn't bother anybody, so if something went down aint nobody likely to hear any cries for help no matter how loud. Well minus a rare person or two coming off the train near by but that trains schedule at night was once an hour or so and it was far from a popular stop. Theres a little bridge you have down as well near smith and 9th street and the storefront Jimmy wants Karen to walk into that makes the place even more creepy and desereted. Funny enough despite me talking about how deserted the area is I once ran into Matisyahu right around the time he got really famous. Anyway just saying that area is really creepy and was perfect for a scene like that.
“Be sure to block the window!”
“…’ey! Shshshshshshsh-shhhh!”
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Overlooking that fact that Karen was married to Henry and knew about a lot of crimes he did. Which in turn made her a loose end.
You don't think husbands and wives don't pillow talk. I am sure Henry let Karen know what he was thinking about Jimmy.
After the debacle with the "warming up the engine" with a deceased Mory in the front seat Carbone was finished.
this scene really still is confusing to me, I think it could mean both, like she was just afraid or she was about to be whacked
He specifically told them not to buy expensive stuff they did it anyways none of them wouldn'have died if they would have just listen to him I don't blame Jimmy for what he did
All of what they do is cold blooded murder, but hey no reason to blame them for that...
@@SeriusChevy they know the risk for signing up that's the life that they live
@@SeriusChevy you can't take the heat get out the kitchen
He would have killed them all anyways even if they didn't spend 1 cent.
@@maratonlegendelenemirei3352 no I don't think he would have the mafia lives by a cold
Jimmy was trying to tie up loose ends on the heist and he didn’t want to get whacked by Paulie cause paulie didn’t allow drug dealing and if he found out Jimmy was involved so he would’ve had him whacked along with Henry
What a great performance by Robert de Niro as Jimmy the gent Burke!!!!
Nah, he was Jimmy Conway, apparently changed after Jimmy's daughter tried shaking Martin Scorsese down, demanding cash in return for using their family name.
So he said "OK, we'll keep our money and not use your family name".
Because Paulie, the real Paulie, and Karen were lovers "this happened when Henry Hill was arrested", and, Tommy DeVito, real name Tommy DeSimone, was wacked not because of the made man he killed on the movie "Billy Bats", but because he tried to rape Karen, and Paulie ordered him killed as soon as Karen told him, DeSimmone was a psychopath that was a bit different from his character on Goodfellas , tall and muscular, and a complete sick individual with a desire to murder anyone, it was said that Tommy killed a man in the street just to test his new .38 revolver, the man was a complete innocent person that was just going by, these individuals were all far from innocent, they were vicious, devious and liars.
I always saw Jimmy’s actions as rational self-preservation. Psychopathic and cold-hearted, sure. But not paranoid. If I was in Jimmy’s position, and members of the crew started flaunting their ill-gotten gains, I’d wack those idiots too
Sometimes the wacking is what get's people caught anyway. In real life adding onto the crime with more serious crime isn't a generally smart idea from anyone law enforcement wants.
I think the only big mistake Jimmy made was taking them out one by one, but not all at the same time. He should have gotten them all together and took them out altogether with poison or something, less messy and less chance of someone slipping away.
@@ColorCodeWhite Yeah, and a string of murders would seem to get more attention than a single mass murder might
@@KiDoesMusic "Sometimes the wacking is what gets people caught." Ask Paul Reubens AKA Pee Wee Herman
@@ColorCodeWhite Kill them all with poison? What is this? The Borgias? Nice try in terms of style and lateral thinking, I guess. Even if the modus operandi is more fifteenth century than twentieth. Also, orchestrating a mass killing of several figures in the criminal underworld, with poison, wouldn't be as low profile as you seem to think. Let's just say, supicions would be aroused...
Jimmy is just being pragmatic as usual.
Hes a twisted s.o.b. but he knew how to make money off the books.
In that life your crew is supposed to take care of your family if anything happens to u but that rule applies to made men and jimmy wasn’t a made man and Morrie was barely even an associate so jimmy had no obligation to provide for his wife
How Karen got Tommy killed, she didn’t tell him to kill the main man
The warehouse scene never made sense to me. Jimmy's not planning on killing Karen until she tells him Henry didn't even know she came down there to see him. So he lies and says there's some stolen dresses in the warehouse. He doesn't walk down with her (ie with a gun). She peers in and sees two sweaty meatballs up to no good (I think one is opening a crate with a crowbar.) Sooo... what? Do they have standing orders to kill anyone woman that happens in there? Clearly, Karen (and the adience) know nothing good is going down in the warehouse... Just curious of "the mechanics" of how she was supposed to meet her end.