You absolutely need a legit e-MTB. I get some shade locally at some trails, but even with my kit e-bike, there are legal trails for it that would get me tackled off a Surron.
Those trails at Walnut Creek park are maintained by Austin Ridge Riders with volunteer trail building events. There was one this past Sunday at the section at 18:00 to build back up the bank, the jump, and other features, so it's even better right there now.
Good thing in germany, you have insanely clear regulations on what is allowed where. The differences between bike, E-bike and e-motorbike are defined by law and there is no wishy washy on anything.
Probably depends on who you encounter. Motorized bikes were banned from trails for several reasons, primarily noise, but later for the concerns of excessive speeds, reckless riders, and environmental issues. Eventually, there will be more explicit and commonly accepted terms, especially if enough people get eBikes
When people seem dickish, keep doing what you do - move on and leave them behind. That's the right move - to engage only encourages them. Besides, you never know what asshat might decide they don't like the looks of you and simply pepper spray you for the hell of it, or even worse. When you're near lame people they will question your cool - I don't know how to turn down my awesome so I prefer to just scrooch them out my range a bit. Then they get bored with themselves and wander off to waste someone else's time with their lameness - winning.
Scout the trails during the day, get more lights on your bike and go rip em up at night. Watch out for campers (homeless or stoned people on a nature hike).
I have a Nucular 24F controller that can be programed with 72V if you haven't bought a BAC already. I am happy enough with stock speed I just would exchange it for your stock battery because I would like to have a second one so I know I can make it back where ever I went. I also can throw in a Regen brake throttle with it.
Budha said most importent.... "gracefully letting go of things not meant for you " .. i put this on a note in my kitchen 5 years ago .. and it helped me a lot !!! .. greetings !!
For reference, no motorized vehicles references gas motors. Which means your surron is allowed. (technically it's not because it's not a class 2 once unlocked, but who cares)
The keyword is vehicles and what's considered a vehicle. In my area, the local pd issued this statement saying that surrons are registerable vehicles and shouldn't be used where vehicles are prohibited.
@@SylvieTheBagel idk, according to my local pd, it's registerable. I know a few people who have surrons but ended up selling it for an emtb. but I don't think they ever registered it before they sold it though. There are people on the forums in colorado who have registered it though and it looks like you need insurance first before registering
@@SylvieTheBagel from what I've seen, people are using the serial number as the VIN number to register it. I guess luna made a guide on registration or something. There's also a few topics on registering it on the sub reddit for surrons with users in the usa sharing how they got it registered. I've looked into this for some time since I've been wanting one for a little town cruiser or ohv bike (I wouldn't use on mtb trails, the wheel size and weight really limits it)
I got the Gladiator 60v max. Even more range than you think. Great batteries. Quality stuff and customer service. I have a EMB BAC4000 too, but haven't installed yet. It's just so easy to swap the stock and Chibattery on the same controller.
I witnessed a dude fly down a trail on one of these things and hit a teen mountain biker about my age. The kid was trying to ask for help, but couldn't speak as his jaw was shattered. The dude driving the Sur-Ron left as quick as he could... Never identified. A teen's future was immediately destroyed by someone who broke rules that are there for a reason. These things are banned from BIKE trails for a reason. Wouldn't you agree motorcycles and mountain bikes don't mix? I can't wait for the day that Sur-Ron riders have their own trails... Too many accidents and reckless riders. It makes responsible riders look bad. It's a tricky thing to balance it! Stay safe.
I have a TSDZ2 mid drive on my Fat Tad (I'm handicapped so I get away with murder) and I've gotten full air at the local MTB bike park - torque sensing pedal assist will let you *launch* even harder than Lance Armstrong - freaked me out the first time *both* wheels came up off the dirt, but when the back end came up and started to gyro on me I knew I had cracked the code (I can only push a pedal with one of my legs so way better results than I ever expected out of this tiny unit). It's currently destroyed because I keep smashing it and I'm in the middle of some serious upgrades to give me more speed, torque, better brakes (disc brakes can't handle an unexpected -1500 foot elevation change, I found out the very hard way) and modify my handlebars/clips completely for the riding it does. On the bench I'm assembling a back wheel with an Enviolo hub and drivetrain with Gates Carbon belt. They make a tandem bike kit which I can adapt to my tadpole's stupidly long chainlength and super weak idlers (also broken) with a jackshaft and a couple extra small gates sprockets. I knew the first time I went in sand my chain was doomed and I finally did and it was. Can't ride the Oregon Dunes National Recreation Area with that nonsense going on, nope. If you want to go cheap, get a frame somewhere and get a mid drive with internal torque/cadence sensors (so it works right) then put the rest of the parts on you like. Most bikes that are good out of the box are pretty expensive and most bikes that are affordable need a bunch of upgrades (and then you're stuck with junk parts unless someone wants them).
EMXRON - Sur Ron Upgrade KitFor the batteries we worked closely with both Eon Lithium and Quasar Lithium to design both a 60v and 72v battery that were not only light weight, but fit under the stock lid with ZERO latch modifications. Yes, ZERO latch or lid mods; this means you can run any seat or body kit your heart desires! Our 72v 33AH pack is constructed with Molicels for high discharge output and only weighs in at only 26.5 lbs! The results are that with the EMXRON Kit you will have nearly triple the power output at 14+kW, better ride feel and control, greatly increased top speed and 20% more battery capacity for only 3 total lbs. ONLY 3 TOTAL LBS! As for our 60v 53AH packs, they weigh in at only 31lbs. This means 12+kW and over 50% more battery capacity for a 7.5 lbs increase. More than 10, or even 15 pounds less than the competition! Which on a sur ron is approaching 10% of the total weight saved by going with an EMXRON complete setup over other alternatives.www.electroandcompany.com/product-page/emxron-kit-sur-ron-upgrade-kit
Check Priority Bikes. They have both non and electrified bikes, but you also can have options of Enviolo or Rohloff IGH (or even Pinion front gearbox) along with every single bike they sell already comes with Gates Carbon belt drive from the factory. Not an affiliate but I kind of which I was...another crowdfunded cool thing that turned into an actual company. I would expect them to be at Electrified Expo since they have some PEV models.
That's great because the Sur-Ron does need a service new forks brakes and what will make your bike safer and ride even better so well done my friend 👏 😀
2:36 Why not out the top 25% (or out the sides AND top), it gives a more motorcycle feel with the raised gas tank area and gives you more knee / leg control of the bike making bars only a direction change vs momentum change
You want the 72v. Go big, or go home... And I know for a fact that you're able to handle the speed. You're no longer a rookie to the ebike world. 🙌🏾🤙🏾🤙🏾🤙🏾
72 volt, 50ish amp hour with the BAC 4000....Not interested in guessing, but that's the way I'd go, and have went...It's nicer when you bring the young ladies back to the bus and hear their freaky commotion, also crushing your enemies and seeing them driven before you is good....Ha..ha....
Dude, make sure trails are ebike allowing, thst makes it legal. This is also not an electric assist, and is just an electric motorcycle. People can and will make you leave, less likely if you take care and caution with trail direction and area rules. Don’t be that guy who is going uphill on the downhill trails. Nearly broke my neck when i got hit once, only an e assist, not even a sur ron.
Get ur dreams off that back burner bro ,keep up the good work gettin the word out on e bikes and the realization that fillin up on the pump is old hat. Thanx for what u do bro.
Looking at your videos and seeing how much it is bouncing up and down on your handlebar must be putting unnecessary fatigue on your wrists. Maybe check for loose spokes on your front wheel, or better bring your wheel in a bike shop so they can true your wheel. Love your videos and life style. Cheers
@Dillon Thomson hi. People have been using them recklessly and they have become a tool of choice for drug dealers. Police have clamped down on them. With a large number of them being seized and crushed. It's become such a problem that the UK government is now considering new ebike laws with some sort of registration and insurance being required, so as usual a few idiots have spoilt it for the rest of us
16:13 I like the stories, legit, plus keeps you going slower on those tight trails. Plus you need a light! REI less than $40 Good video Hoping all my comments help the algo
i'd maybe try to work with a KO controller 😊 per haps some chi -n yer coffee? when you master the tuning of the controller, get a ko motor !!😎 also check out powerful lithium from , i believe new jersey? they make batteries for a few different rides ..like a super long lasting onyx rcr battery .. so the skies the limit on customization :)
From what I know surrons rip up single tracks with there high acceleration and power like MX and it just ruins the trails for the bikers, so if it says no motor vehicles I would respect it
Depends, but then there should be a lot more parks where they are accessible to ebikes then. I'd gladly pay to be able to use a well maintained park for it but uhhh... they don't exist in most places near me, and I don't want to just go onto peoples private property. I see that as far worse than public areas
Heya Dillon,think its time to look at making your own battery if want a dirt bike destroyer get 3500 milliamp cells with 20-25 amp draw and 350 amp continuos draw ant bms or one of the Qucc ones
If that's a mountain bike and hiking trail, which looks like it might be. Only class 1 ebikes are allowed, they are classified as non motorized, class 2s and 3 which yours is, are not allowed because they have a throttle, go to fast, and have no way to pedal. It is people doing what you're doing that will get e-bikes banned from trail systems. Unless that is a motocross trail. I have both class 1 and 2 and only ride my class 1 on trails that are for mountain bikes.
@@byronswogger I've been on strict class trails before and they simply don't care, it's the other riders that get pissed lmfao. 1 mountain bike rider once tried to keep up with me on my sur ron (stock) down a hill and he simply couldn't due to limitations of his bike and he got so fuckin pissed at the bottom he slammed his bike down and said you think your fast huh, pedal bikes are better and I said, well obviously not as you got demolished and e bikes are shit tons more fun, more air time, more intense corning around burns etc, then he flipped his bike in mid air (His bike was definitely an expensive bike) and then said back to me going, I'll do this to your bike, then I said, good on ya ruining your bike, try catch me then I rode off LMAO So he ruined his own pedal ancient bike because I was shit tons faster then him 💀 He would piss his pants if I had a BAC4000 with a 72v 💀💀💀💀💀
@@bslothed3211 It's not a competition bro. And that's the best thing to say to angry guys on cycles. It's not a race, it doesn't matter if a stranger is going faster if they aren't a danger to you. Just chill out and don't be confrontational even if they are. Better to just ride off without trying to piss people off more
Gawd damn it this looks so fun. I have a razor mx650 for my son that I’m gonna upgrade asap, and then I wanna get myself something to go out with him but idk what. Cash is tight these days and having something other than a car for short trips would be cool AF too. Any advice from anyone on her would be cool TIA! Also I’m in San Diego and I’ve also visited Austin a couple years ago and a friend of mine who worked at the what a burger said I MUST try it. So I did and it was soooo generic tasting!! 😂
Hey mate maybe check out B Rich channel he sources lots of ebikes from Ali and gets some great deals. He tells you how plus you could use the same suppliers to avoid potential scammers of ill repute 🤪Also he mods lots of Razor bikes with plenty of how to's, do and dont's and product links. Cheers
Crazy, all those amazing trails & it may or may not be illegal to ride on them, such a shame, and yes ramblings about film sets etc, is all good keep up the good videos
Bro there are so many cool campgrounds that you could explore around the hill country that are close to Austin within a few hours go check out the Medina river in Kerrville Texas. And there's a great trail around Northwest Austin by Highway 360 in Northwest Austin. I used to live in Northwest Austin off of FM620 But I recently moved to Florida.
Isn’t this thing supposed to be an electric motorcycle? Then ride it where motorcycles are legally allowed to operate. And if it’s on the road it should be licensed and insured. You want to compete with ICE bikes then stay off the bicycle trails period.
Love it when someone points out the no motor vehicle sign. Those where put up well before e-bikes. Because people where taking there gas engine 3-4 wheelers and gas dirt bikes . Shooting out poison exhaust down walk and bike paths. I had that happen one time. Told him what i wrote here and that he should educate himself and mind his own business then took off. He sat there stunned for a second then continued on his way.
It's a problem because people equal sh!t, you can't justify when somebody goes down a path doing 30mph plus when everyone else is under 20mph or on foot walking, jogging, etc... It starts to become a safety issue. I'm not against ebikes, but against stupid people.
Here in Oregon, some trails were built with state grants that were provided with that intent to ban OHVs before e-bikes were popular. OPRD has since clarified in 2019 that class compliant e-bikes are specifically excluded from that prohibition. I was able to point to the document and get restrictions and signage changed at a local trail this year to reflect that. Sometimes all people have to do is talk to the right people.
The reason for not wanting motorized bikes on trails is not because they produce “poison exhaust smells” but because they root out the trails if not ridden properly. it won’t matter too much on a trail like he was riding in the video but on a trail with jumps and berms it totally destroys the lips of jumps. I build mtb jumps and trails and I also ride dirt bikes and four wheelers so I know from experience. So just stay off the trails that are meant for bikes and ride trails that are meant for dirt bikes. Btw what do you mean by “poison exhaust”? Do you think that riding something gas powered is going to kill the environment? We have no control over when the world’s gonna end so why fixate on trying to preserve it by not using anything that’s powered by a combustion engine? Just a thought.
The reason for now wanting them isn’t bcs of the smoke and everything they don’t want them bcs they destroy the trails and jumps since they are heavier and have more torque a trail in California has already been closed bcs of Surrons bcs they were destroying the jumps
I tried Whataburger for the 1st time at the new location in Hollywood tonight. Instant impression of mediocre at best and if you put it next to a Fatburger it's not even half as good. Love your commitment to the grind buddy keep going 😎
Bro you gotta monetize your gaming while you're chilling at night on TH-cam on a secondary channel I would totally watch you play some of the new a + games that are out and coming out.
That response got me dying 🤣
Thanks homie, I felt like that was the most passive answer I could have gave
You absolutely need a legit e-MTB. I get some shade locally at some trails, but even with my kit e-bike, there are legal trails for it that would get me tackled off a Surron.
Those trails at Walnut Creek park are maintained by Austin Ridge Riders with volunteer trail building events. There was one this past Sunday at the section at 18:00 to build back up the bank, the jump, and other features, so it's even better right there now.
Good thing in germany, you have insanely clear regulations on what is allowed where. The differences between bike, E-bike and e-motorbike are defined by law and there is no wishy washy on anything.
'Is that motorized?'
No, it's electric!
😂… they don’t have motors lol
a electric bike has a motor, if it didnt have a motor it wouldnt work
My guess is a Chi battery
Chi batteries are the ones that protrude out the top, EBMX require a seat extender but don’t protrude.
@@terminator8220 depends on which one you get
Probably depends on who you encounter. Motorized bikes were banned from trails for several reasons, primarily noise, but later for the concerns of excessive speeds, reckless riders, and environmental issues. Eventually, there will be more explicit and commonly accepted terms, especially if enough people get eBikes
NY wants to regulate them. Ca will follow next. th-cam.com/video/pwz3uRy66Uc/w-d-xo.html
When people seem dickish, keep doing what you do - move on and leave them behind.
That's the right move - to engage only encourages them.
Besides, you never know what asshat might decide they don't like the looks of you and simply pepper spray you for the hell of it, or even worse.
When you're near lame people they will question your cool - I don't know how to turn down my awesome so I prefer to just scrooch them out my range a bit. Then they get bored with themselves and wander off to waste someone else's time with their lameness - winning.
Scout the trails during the day, get more lights on your bike and go rip em up at night.
Watch out for campers (homeless or stoned people on a nature hike).
He wasn’t dickish he was just nosy…if he was in the super73 he could’ve said whatever cause that’s street legal..surron isnt
😂
And end up wrecked 😂
Get the BAC 8k and a 72v it does last longer if you don't throttle the s out of it. You WILL be SO happy you did.
I have a Nucular 24F controller that can be programed with 72V if you haven't bought a BAC already. I am happy enough with stock speed I just would exchange it for your stock battery because I would like to have a second one so I know I can make it back where ever I went. I also can throw in a Regen brake throttle with it.
Budha said most importent.... "gracefully letting go of things not meant for you " .. i put this on a note in my kitchen 5 years ago .. and it helped me a lot !!! .. greetings !!
For reference, no motorized vehicles references gas motors. Which means your surron is allowed. (technically it's not because it's not a class 2 once unlocked, but who cares)
The keyword is vehicles and what's considered a vehicle. In my area, the local pd issued this statement saying that surrons are registerable vehicles and shouldn't be used where vehicles are prohibited.
@@BFBMTb surrons arent registerable in the USA, at least.
@@SylvieTheBagel idk, according to my local pd, it's registerable. I know a few people who have surrons but ended up selling it for an emtb. but I don't think they ever registered it before they sold it though. There are people on the forums in colorado who have registered it though and it looks like you need insurance first before registering
@@BFBMTb you can get insurance on a surron, but you need to have something like a VIN number for registration- and they don't have that.
@@SylvieTheBagel from what I've seen, people are using the serial number as the VIN number to register it. I guess luna made a guide on registration or something. There's also a few topics on registering it on the sub reddit for surrons with users in the usa sharing how they got it registered. I've looked into this for some time since I've been wanting one for a little town cruiser or ohv bike (I wouldn't use on mtb trails, the wheel size and weight really limits it)
I got the Gladiator 60v max. Even more range than you think. Great batteries. Quality stuff and customer service. I have a EMB BAC4000 too, but haven't installed yet. It's just so easy to swap the stock and Chibattery on the same controller.
I witnessed a dude fly down a trail on one of these things and hit a teen mountain biker about my age. The kid was trying to ask for help, but couldn't speak as his jaw was shattered. The dude driving the Sur-Ron left as quick as he could... Never identified. A teen's future was immediately destroyed by someone who broke rules that are there for a reason.
These things are banned from BIKE trails for a reason. Wouldn't you agree motorcycles and mountain bikes don't mix? I can't wait for the day that Sur-Ron riders have their own trails... Too many accidents and reckless riders. It makes responsible riders look bad. It's a tricky thing to balance it! Stay safe.
Was down in Austin this past week. Did a 65 mile ride from Killeen on my Onyx RCR. People seem alright with 2 onyx bikes on bike trails.
The motor whine sounds like our cop sirens coming from a distance 😂
I have a TSDZ2 mid drive on my Fat Tad (I'm handicapped so I get away with murder) and I've gotten full air at the local MTB bike park - torque sensing pedal assist will let you *launch* even harder than Lance Armstrong - freaked me out the first time *both* wheels came up off the dirt, but when the back end came up and started to gyro on me I knew I had cracked the code (I can only push a pedal with one of my legs so way better results than I ever expected out of this tiny unit).
It's currently destroyed because I keep smashing it and I'm in the middle of some serious upgrades to give me more speed, torque, better brakes (disc brakes can't handle an unexpected -1500 foot elevation change, I found out the very hard way) and modify my handlebars/clips completely for the riding it does.
On the bench I'm assembling a back wheel with an Enviolo hub and drivetrain with Gates Carbon belt. They make a tandem bike kit which I can adapt to my tadpole's stupidly long chainlength and super weak idlers (also broken) with a jackshaft and a couple extra small gates sprockets. I knew the first time I went in sand my chain was doomed and I finally did and it was. Can't ride the Oregon Dunes National Recreation Area with that nonsense going on, nope.
If you want to go cheap, get a frame somewhere and get a mid drive with internal torque/cadence sensors (so it works right) then put the rest of the parts on you like. Most bikes that are good out of the box are pretty expensive and most bikes that are affordable need a bunch of upgrades (and then you're stuck with junk parts unless someone wants them).
EMXRON - Sur Ron Upgrade KitFor the batteries we worked closely with both Eon Lithium and Quasar Lithium to design both a 60v and 72v battery that were not only light weight, but fit under the stock lid with ZERO latch modifications. Yes, ZERO latch or lid mods; this means you can run any seat or body kit your heart desires! Our 72v 33AH pack is constructed with Molicels for high discharge output and only weighs in at only 26.5 lbs! The results are that with the EMXRON Kit you will have nearly triple the power output at 14+kW, better ride feel and control, greatly increased top speed and 20% more battery capacity for only 3 total lbs. ONLY 3 TOTAL LBS! As for our 60v 53AH packs, they weigh in at only 31lbs. This means 12+kW and over 50% more battery capacity for a 7.5 lbs increase. More than 10, or even 15 pounds less than the competition! Which on a sur ron is approaching 10% of the total weight saved by going with an EMXRON complete setup over other alternatives.www.electroandcompany.com/product-page/emxron-kit-sur-ron-upgrade-kit
7:17 Phones are waterproof now
really? what about an iPhone X that has had the screen replaced 4 times?
Check Priority Bikes. They have both non and electrified bikes, but you also can have options of Enviolo or Rohloff IGH (or even Pinion front gearbox) along with every single bike they sell already comes with Gates Carbon belt drive from the factory.
Not an affiliate but I kind of which I was...another crowdfunded cool thing that turned into an actual company.
I would expect them to be at Electrified Expo since they have some PEV models.
perfect response
Hear in Tulsa Oklahoma we have rentals everywhere scooters and bikes
Texans be like "Freedom for me not for Thee!" *fires revolvers into the air*
Why “not for the thee”? What texan says that?
@@loopholeculture pretty sure i heard it on rogans podcast =]
Chi battery 72 volt gladiator max 52ah!!!
That's great because the Sur-Ron does need a service new forks brakes and what will make your bike safer and ride even better so well done my friend 👏 😀
2:36 Why not out the top 25% (or out the sides AND top), it gives a more motorcycle feel with the raised gas tank area and gives you more knee / leg control of the bike making bars only a direction change vs momentum change
You want the 72v. Go big, or go home... And I know for a fact that you're able to handle the speed. You're no longer a rookie to the ebike world. 🙌🏾🤙🏾🤙🏾🤙🏾
Been there man lol good work
the analog bikers didn't give you static?
I would recommend ebmx 72 v battery and bac 8000👍
Stark Varg has a waitlist. Expected delivery right now is 2024. Dont sell your bikes for it unless youre ready to wait a long time without anything
72 volt, 50ish amp hour with the BAC 4000....Not interested in guessing, but that's the way I'd go, and have went...It's nicer when you bring the young ladies back to the bus and hear their freaky commotion, also crushing your enemies and seeing them driven before you is good....Ha..ha....
That dude with "is that motorized?" Real NPC 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I just ignore people like this, who cares? just enjoy the ride 🤙
Is that motorized?
No, it's electrified
Tell them they mean combustion motors! You've got magnets! Keep riding bro!
Congrats on the sponsorship
That was a perfect response. Nope. And rode off
Don't care about that.JUST RIIDDEEE
...why are the moto cross dirtbikers w gas motors deutsch bags.....what am I missing...
You absolutely responded proper ….. to the trail police. LoL
If u think that was trail police 💀
Should consider a KO nano controller. $699 price makes it good value compared to other stuff. Peak 17kw output is still wild.
Everyone I know who has a KO says they're garbage. Do you own one?
I just saw a shop selling the ultra bee for $8500 shipped in 5-8 days.
Dude, make sure trails are ebike allowing, thst makes it legal. This is also not an electric assist, and is just an electric motorcycle. People can and will make you leave, less likely if you take care and caution with trail direction and area rules. Don’t be that guy who is going uphill on the downhill trails. Nearly broke my neck when i got hit once, only an e assist, not even a sur ron.
Nope, nope annnd nope. No one will kick us Surron riders out lol, just deal with it
12:20 🤣 got eem
electric
mountain bikes are so good you can get them as light as 20kg and its a nice crooss over from a normmal mtb and surron
You're best off with the 72v battery the 1 that looks too big you can make it look like it fits.
Get ur dreams off that back burner bro ,keep up the good work gettin the word out on e bikes and the realization that fillin up on the pump is old hat. Thanx for what u do bro.
Looking at your videos and seeing how much it is bouncing up and down on your handlebar must be putting unnecessary fatigue on your wrists. Maybe check for loose spokes on your front wheel, or better bring your wheel in a bike shop so they can true your wheel.
Love your videos and life style.
Cheers
In the UK surons have become a scurge
What does that mean?
@Dillon Thomson hi. People have been using them recklessly and they have become a tool of choice for drug dealers. Police have clamped down on them. With a large number of them being seized and crushed. It's become such a problem that the UK government is now considering new ebike laws with some sort of registration and insurance being required, so as usual a few idiots have spoilt it for the rest of us
16:13 I like the stories, legit, plus keeps you going slower on those tight trails. Plus you need a light! REI less than $40
Good video
Hoping all my comments help the algo
Sur Rons come with daytime running lights that cannot be turned off
ebikes are not considered motor vehicles
No way man send it at the bike park ! Just dont case it and wreck the lip
Thank you for the constant uploads, great content.. love ediing and chilling with your videos playing. Making me want a Surron though....damn you
good response!
How the f is somethin legal to design . Build . And sell . but yet still illegal to use 🤦♀️🤷♂️🙄😡🤬😤
Chi battery is my assumption - I hear they are the go-to for Surron battery upgrades. Still rockin' the gopro?
You should get a EMTB to ride those trails
Love the mirror like that i have 2 of thos on my zero fx .. just like that !!!!
You did the right thing my guy! I was over here tripping on what you said & did! 😂
And also u do realize surrons were made to go wherever a reg bicycle goes just depends on the laws we’re u are and the power u have in it
Wymmmmm he almost got rear ended and u say it’s not a reason to honk bruhhh 😑🤦♂️🤣
You missed when I said “or is it?” I’m assuming or you wouldn’t have left this comment
i'd maybe try to work with a KO controller 😊 per haps some chi -n yer coffee?
when you master the tuning of the controller, get a ko motor !!😎
also check out powerful lithium from , i believe new jersey? they make batteries for a few different rides ..like a super long lasting onyx rcr battery .. so the skies the limit on customization :)
Why do you go on the sidewalks and paths with a Surron? Seems very unsafe to those on the paths :(
Not at those speeds
I always say, "It's electric, Boogie, Oogie, Oogie." 🕺🔌⚡
Get the gladiator 60v 60 bro u won’t regret it. Don’t worry about it sticking out the kit they have is good and u end up forgetting it sticks out
From what I know surrons rip up single tracks with there high acceleration and power like MX and it just ruins the trails for the bikers, so if it says no motor vehicles I would respect it
High acceleration 😂
Depends, but then there should be a lot more parks where they are accessible to ebikes then. I'd gladly pay to be able to use a well maintained park for it but uhhh... they don't exist in most places near me, and I don't want to just go onto peoples private property. I see that as far worse than public areas
Love the storys!
Heya Dillon,think its time to look at making your own battery if want a dirt bike destroyer get 3500 milliamp cells with 20-25 amp draw and 350 amp continuos draw ant bms or one of the Qucc ones
No I have a battery coming in the mail already. I talk about it in this video
Austin texas people don't get mad when they see ebike riders riding around all over Austin
Hang in there, more new companies are getting warehouses in the US.
If that's a mountain bike and hiking trail, which looks like it might be. Only class 1 ebikes are allowed, they are classified as non motorized, class 2s and 3 which yours is, are not allowed because they have a throttle, go to fast, and have no way to pedal. It is people doing what you're doing that will get e-bikes banned from trail systems. Unless that is a motocross trail.
I have both class 1 and 2 and only ride my class 1 on trails that are for mountain bikes.
They’re already banned it’s just such an insignificant problem that authorities will never care enough to do anything about it
@@loopholeculture a lot of trails allow class 1 only, but if they see class 2,3 e-bikes there they'll just ban all e-bikes
@@byronswogger I've been on strict class trails before and they simply don't care, it's the other riders that get pissed lmfao.
1 mountain bike rider once tried to keep up with me on my sur ron (stock) down a hill and he simply couldn't due to limitations of his bike and he got so fuckin pissed at the bottom he slammed his bike down and said you think your fast huh, pedal bikes are better and I said, well obviously not as you got demolished and e bikes are shit tons more fun, more air time, more intense corning around burns etc, then he flipped his bike in mid air (His bike was definitely an expensive bike) and then said back to me going, I'll do this to your bike, then I said, good on ya ruining your bike, try catch me then I rode off LMAO
So he ruined his own pedal ancient bike because I was shit tons faster then him 💀 He would piss his pants if I had a BAC4000 with a 72v 💀💀💀💀💀
@@bslothed3211 It's not a competition bro. And that's the best thing to say to angry guys on cycles. It's not a race, it doesn't matter if a stranger is going faster if they aren't a danger to you. Just chill out and don't be confrontational even if they are. Better to just ride off without trying to piss people off more
Gawd damn it this looks so fun. I have a razor mx650 for my son that I’m gonna upgrade asap, and then I wanna get myself something to go out with him but idk what.
Cash is tight these days and having something other than a car for short trips would be cool AF too.
Any advice from anyone on her would be cool TIA!
Also I’m in San Diego and I’ve also visited Austin a couple years ago and a friend of mine who worked at the what a burger said I MUST try it. So I did and it was soooo generic tasting!! 😂
Hey mate maybe check out B Rich channel he sources lots of ebikes from Ali and gets some great deals. He tells you how plus you could use the same suppliers to avoid potential scammers of ill repute 🤪Also he mods lots of Razor bikes with plenty of how to's, do and dont's and product links. Cheers
@@dickflinghammer2985 Thank you!!! Will do!!
@@Gargamel19 Quite welcome 😁
Crazy, all those amazing trails & it may or may not be illegal to ride on them, such a shame, and yes ramblings about film sets etc, is all good keep up the good videos
Bro there are so many cool campgrounds that you could explore around the hill country that are close to Austin within a few hours go check out the Medina river in Kerrville Texas. And there's a great trail around Northwest Austin by Highway 360 in Northwest Austin. I used to live in Northwest Austin off of FM620 But I recently moved to Florida.
Ever heard of CAB Motor works?
Got a Recon that will buck you like no other
Isn’t this thing supposed to be an electric motorcycle? Then ride it where motorcycles are legally allowed to operate. And if it’s on the road it should be licensed and insured. You want to compete with ICE bikes then stay off the bicycle trails period.
clean me up simp 👎
I hope you get to ride through New Orleans early next year i feel like it would be a good vlog
I think the guy was genuinely curious and you assumed his intentions were bad
Na cuz you can hear him say “oh yeah” sarcastically as I leave
Hey Dylan off subject, but you have to get your hands on one of those land Moto districts ASAP!
I saw one at the Mega Ride in Houston. Vlog coming soon
Awesome brother!
Love it when someone points out the no motor vehicle sign. Those where put up well before e-bikes. Because people where taking there gas engine 3-4 wheelers and gas dirt bikes . Shooting out poison exhaust down walk and bike paths. I had that happen one time. Told him what i wrote here and that he should educate himself and mind his own business then took off. He sat there stunned for a second then continued on his way.
It's a problem because people equal sh!t, you can't justify when somebody goes down a path doing 30mph plus when everyone else is under 20mph or on foot walking, jogging, etc... It starts to become a safety issue. I'm not against ebikes, but against stupid people.
Here in Oregon, some trails were built with state grants that were provided with that intent to ban OHVs before e-bikes were popular. OPRD has since clarified in 2019 that class compliant e-bikes are specifically excluded from that prohibition. I was able to point to the document and get restrictions and signage changed at a local trail this year to reflect that. Sometimes all people have to do is talk to the right people.
The reason for not wanting motorized bikes on trails is not because they produce “poison exhaust smells” but because they root out the trails if not ridden properly. it won’t matter too much on a trail like he was riding in the video but on a trail with jumps and berms it totally destroys the lips of jumps. I build mtb jumps and trails and I also ride dirt bikes and four wheelers so I know from experience. So just stay off the trails that are meant for bikes and ride trails that are meant for dirt bikes. Btw what do you mean by “poison exhaust”? Do you think that riding something gas powered is going to kill the environment? We have no control over when the world’s gonna end so why fixate on trying to preserve it by not using anything that’s powered by a combustion engine? Just a thought.
The reason for now wanting them isn’t bcs of the smoke and everything they don’t want them bcs they destroy the trails and jumps since they are heavier and have more torque a trail in California has already been closed bcs of Surrons bcs they were destroying the jumps
“Shooting out poison exhaust”. Get outta here tree hugger
KO has a controller for 695 USD IIRC
Thats a class 3 ebike
Don’t call it and ebike it’s an electric motorcycle
I tried Whataburger for the 1st time at the new location in Hollywood tonight. Instant impression of mediocre at best and if you put it next to a Fatburger it's not even half as good. Love your commitment to the grind buddy keep going 😎
Fuck you. California’s whole culture is mediocre at best
I ate Whataburger once. Way too greasy. Had to use the toilet soon after.
When is the ride in Houston? Want to hit that up...
What grips are on your bike?
Good vid dude and Chi battery and P51 bikes I am guessing
as a libertarian my dream is to ride my 5000w surron in the mountains as a smoke a spliff
Couple AA batteries be mint. 😊 the pa chair yarn was excellent dude.
@Dillon Thomson we have probably been on set together, been doing BG for a long time.
Wow omg I'd love one suron
whataburger is pretty crap in my experience, though its been a long time. DQ is much better in TX, wheras most here in LA are the lesser mall stands.
it was the right reply😅
Surron will get categorized as motorcycles soon. California will be the starting place. Sad
they leave the factory categorized as motorcycles. They've been motorcycles this whole time
Bad news for you Chris, they already are 💀
He just asked a question dam. Kids these days
You heard the same tone I did buddy
Bro you gotta monetize your gaming while you're chilling at night on TH-cam on a secondary channel I would totally watch you play some of the new a + games that are out and coming out.
AND YOU WANT AT LEAST A 72 volt brother go all out with the new motor new bac 4000 go all in dog
Came to see the karen male stayed to see the video
Nice ride, quality trail.
Nice wheelies!
Get helmet mounted night vision for night driving ghost