mental ray, which we started developing in 1984 was with the industry until 2017, when we had reached the limits of its scalability. its DNA lives on in our in-house production pipeline. :)
"I use single letter variable names, it's called efficiency. I don't need comments. I have a degree in creative memory management." A few seconds later: "What is this variable for?" This will never not be funny.
Because basic was interpreted and the CPUs were not that powerful, having single character names and no comments in your code was actually a legit optimization technique. Of course, everyone knew that the perf critical part of your game had to be written in assembler...
Spent more time defragging my Disk TBH. There was also a disk compression tool... Forgot what it was called. But I actually used it. I had 40mb hard drive.... No chance of buying a bigger one. Glad I just had a computer. 😅
With auto degauss it would do it every time you turned the monitor on. Not much happened if you did it in succession but if doing it after having the monitored powered off for a day would give a very satisfying *BWUANG*
It would suck without being able to google those Q&A websites. You would have to read through large books to learn how to do something. Plus, my memory is bad so I can't remember basic things like "How to Do (X) in (Y)-Language" unless I've done it 10,000 times. So being able to do a quick web search to jog the memory is really useful.
@@robertjenkins6132 Well remember you probably only used few languages. AND speaking about writing device drivers, choice boils down to even fewer options. Basically you were writing C code all the time, and considering C itself has a "really short" keyword set you would have learned it pretty fast. The problem is that you wouldn't program that much of stuff unless you were really good in programming
I appreciate the C64 nowadays; what it meant/did for humble users and developers without deep pockets. Back then: different story. Wouldn't have touched it with the proverbial 10 ft pole. We were young, very spoiled developers. 😂
Missing: Getting cut off from the BBS because your sister picked up the phone in her room. Also missing: the 9 volt battery in the 300 baud Volksmodem dying.
The *Fort Apocalypse* title screen punched me in the face and rocket launched me to much better times in another era, in another universe. A lost universe.
This hits so close to home. When I was 10 or 11 I'd spend hours or sometimes days typing out data statements from computer magazines, listening to a-ha from an old record player someone in my building threw out
Hands down the funniest geek videos around... I'm a 90s nerd, but I had a hand-me-down Apple IIc. I would "program" games in basic by copying the code from books in the library.
Still to this day: did a backup with Timeshift that failed halfway through and corrupted my whole backups. Pretty sure it was a "skill issue" but definitely pushed me into making backups of my backups.
@@GSBarlev depends what you want... btrfs for anything that needs raid5,6 is not recommended, and using zfs on regular system can put you out for newest updates for quite some time... I just use zfs cause hard to remember so many commands for different systems
I'd love to now how that Zenith monitor is working with a C64. I had an amber one, and that had a PC 9 pin mono connection. Maybe he's right about the monitor not being compatible. Also, where would the sound come from? Also, a SNES cartridge? He's a time traveller!
That floppy drive had the same CPU as the computer. In theory you actually could play a game on the computer while the disk drive printed a spreadsheet on a daisy chained printer, though it would be tricky to setup.
"There it goes my 1000 lines of Basic Program", I remember when I use to do document typing with excel on desktop in Nigeria where we have very unstable electricity and no UPS, it was a nightmare.
I wrote my first (basic) program in 1988 (and first calculator program in 86), but yes all was exactly the same, becouse it was USSR and we was definitely late in personal computers. So disk drive is luxury and much pricier than zx, basic pokes, memory map, VDP registers and assembler codes - all remembered ✅Games from tape and then floppy’s. Not commodore 64 but ZX, than MSX2 128. Congrats- almost all nailed perfect 👌 And i have C experience on msx - Aztec C. It was hard, yep.
@ i have unused small bw tv named VL 100 (almost portable, 6 inch i think) so i MODIFIED it to have Video input and its was my first monitor for handmade RK86 computer (soviet one based on i8080 analog with 32kb ram and text only) and then first monitor for ZX spectrum clone. Later i obtained color tv middle size, similar to Yunost but other name. And got it connected to ZX tru RGB mod. Monitors was rare so we all do some TV modifications to connect ZX or other 8bit home computers
I had Quake 1 on 24 floppies (packed with WinRAR - the only app whose interface never changed since 1996)! It took about 3 hours to install. One day, disk 23 was corrupted, it was a real nightmare to create a new working version. Hahaha
Those things were expensive. A stock A500 sold for 500 UK pounds in 1988, that's $2000 in today's money. You'd need to mow a whole lot of lawns to afford that.
I feel very called out on this video and yet I am loving it so much because it is so great. I was a total Commodore snob and we all used to call the TRS-80 the “trash 80” and Atari users were annoying. And basically everything in this video lol ( and I did have the memory map mostly memorized ) SYS64738 baby! The only thing that an old timer like me would take issue with is I wouldn’t be caught dead with that monitor… commodore 1084 or 1702 or nothing baby! ( a couple of the jokes are technically more of a 90’s problem… monitor refresh rates and word processors on 10 disks and was more of a 1992+ kind of thing… and more in the PC realm, and basic didn’t come out u til DOS5 in 91 but so this is all so true and hilarious)
80s programming nerd here, there’s no substitute for 6502 assembly on a C64, best fun you can have coding. And no word processors until the 90s came on a single disk. WordPerfect 5.2
xMy apple IIgs was on the internet in 1990 and i had a removeable syquest hard disk drive for it and 12 inch graphics tablet.. it was souped up with sound card and a transwarpGS accelerator .. that thing lasted me from, 1987-1996… ! it was a beast…every slot was full. and all in color with a finder Macos interface
I once had a working floppy disk. I put it in it's sleeve, and then I wrote what was on it on the sleeve. With a ballpoint pen. I no longer had a working floppy disk.
6:26 - Zork reference 😁 It's 2024 and people are still making those "Interactive Fiction" games for Infocom Z-Machine. (I've never been able to beat _Curses_ (1993) by Graham Nelson.)
"this BASIC program took 3 months to write . . . from the magazine" - Man, those were the days. And then it took another 3 months to find the errors that you made.🙂
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this is really high definition for the 80s
betamax was amazing
Probably AI upscaling)
originally filmed on film reel
Nah, they did that annoying thing where they cut off the top and bottom of the 3:4 ratio and then upscaled it with ai.
it's upscaled
He became the Emacs guy.
Emacs
"You're saying its slow? I have time" 80s hit so hard
"What happens in the 80s, stays in the 80s. Except for Perl."
And Go, which time-traveled to the future.
@@sdstorm Go is glorious.
mental ray, which we started developing in 1984 was with the industry until 2017, when we had reached the limits of its scalability. its DNA lives on in our in-house production pipeline. :)
Our enterprise management software still runs on Perl. Adding new features every month.
"I use single letter variable names, it's called efficiency. I don't need comments. I have a degree in creative memory management."
A few seconds later: "What is this variable for?"
This will never not be funny.
Because basic was interpreted and the CPUs were not that powerful, having single character names and no comments in your code was actually a legit optimization technique. Of course, everyone knew that the perf critical part of your game had to be written in assembler...
@@fnunez This is soo true. All of it.
"My 12 years old neighbor writes a better Basic interpreter than that"
Brilliant reference to Simon's Basic :)
It's Simons', not Simon's, smh.
"I hear from the pitch if it loads successfully" that takes me back
I can still align a cassette deck by ear to load computer tapes.
"Printers that don't jam" fking golden
We'll have faster than light travel and alien-human hybrids before we have non-jamming printers.
I can't get my printer to jam. it flat out refuses to print if I don't go out and buy fresh ink cartridges for all colors.
That room is soo spot on. Also, who remembers to de-Gauss the CRT, too?
Give the side of the monitor a good whack to stop the image rolling
My TV doesn't have a de-Gauss button. Sounds like a luxury-problem
Spent more time defragging my Disk TBH. There was also a disk compression tool... Forgot what it was called. But I actually used it. I had 40mb hard drive.... No chance of buying a bigger one. Glad I just had a computer. 😅
@@henrikholst7490 Likely Stacker, DoubleSpace or DriveSpace.
With auto degauss it would do it every time you turned the monitor on. Not much happened if you did it in succession but if doing it after having the monitored powered off for a day would give a very satisfying *BWUANG*
Maybe he is an immortal programmer. I mean these setups and the knowledge of all the languages.
No StackOverflow, no ChatGPT... "when men were men and wrote their own device drivers" - Linus Torvalds
It would suck without being able to google those Q&A websites. You would have to read through large books to learn how to do something. Plus, my memory is bad so I can't remember basic things like "How to Do (X) in (Y)-Language" unless I've done it 10,000 times. So being able to do a quick web search to jog the memory is really useful.
They had bios back then doing all the driving work ..
@@robertjenkins6132 Well remember you probably only used few languages. AND speaking about writing device drivers, choice boils down to even fewer options.
Basically you were writing C code all the time, and considering C itself has a "really short" keyword set you would have learned it pretty fast.
The problem is that you wouldn't program that much of stuff unless you were really good in programming
I appreciate his work every day, but the man itself has become a loony.
80s C64 fan here. All totally spot on.
The Atari were better though. 😉
The C64 had 16 colors though, nobody used it with a monochrome monitor like in the video. But the rest is pretty accurate.
I appreciate the C64 nowadays; what it meant/did for humble users and developers without deep pockets. Back then: different story. Wouldn't have touched it with the proverbial 10 ft pole. We were young, very spoiled developers. 😂
Missing: Getting cut off from the BBS because your sister picked up the phone in her room. Also missing: the 9 volt battery in the 300 baud Volksmodem dying.
The *Fort Apocalypse* title screen punched me in the face and rocket launched me to much better times in another era, in another universe. A lost universe.
This hits so close to home. When I was 10 or 11 I'd spend hours or sometimes days typing out data statements from computer magazines, listening to a-ha from an old record player someone in my building threw out
“I never turn off my GeOS, it’ll probably never start again”
Sooooooo true.
What a potpourri of pain and nostalgia... It's like being reminded of a bunch of paper cuts you had forgotten about.
Ah typing from a magazine. I remember that
Thanks for documenting my life! :) Too funny, thanks!
Hands down the funniest geek videos around... I'm a 90s nerd, but I had a hand-me-down Apple IIc. I would "program" games in basic by copying the code from books in the library.
"The disk drive costs more than my computer."
That was true!
@@everaldopeixoto7634 The 1541 was $179 while the C64 was $129 in 1985.
To be fair you got a second 6502 😀
Infocom text adventures make use of that second cpu
"Computer enthusiast" - his poker face is full of enthusiasm.
I got a degree in creative memory Management ahahahaha
As a kid in the mid 90s I had such similar PC, it was a magic box which fascinated me every day.
"Let me debug it..." Proceeds to shake it violently. Perfection
Hooking up that C64 to a monochrome monitor though. You should have just used a cheap color TV to display all 16 possible colors in all their glory.
Yeah what the hell was that. I'm hoping he didn't accidentally press the button at the back of the monitor that puts it in green only mode.
the shocked "you have a C compiler?" got me
"Printers that don't jam"
"Big Brother is too busy figuring out DOS commands"
So f-ing perfect 😂
"then i end up fixing their VCR" lol nothing changed.
the backup function broke my backup
LOL
Still to this day: did a backup with Timeshift that failed halfway through and corrupted my whole backups. Pretty sure it was a "skill issue" but definitely pushed me into making backups of my backups.
thank god for zfs
@@darukutsu Wait, I thought it was ButterFS that was the magic sauce.
@@GSBarlev depends what you want... btrfs for anything that needs raid5,6 is not recommended, and using zfs on regular system can put you out for newest updates for quite some time... I just use zfs cause hard to remember so many commands for different systems
"I hear from the pitch when it loads successfully" ahahaha that brings back memories.
"I just need a 2nd computer"🤣
I'd love to now how that Zenith monitor is working with a C64. I had an amber one, and that had a PC 9 pin mono connection. Maybe he's right about the monitor not being compatible. Also, where would the sound come from?
Also, a SNES cartridge? He's a time traveller!
Nailed it with the burgundy silk shirt and huge aviator glasses. A leather bomber jacket would complete the look.
That was so spot on, it physically hurt. Or maybe my back is acting up. Who's to say.
Rooted in the 80s either way
The eyes opening up when talking about Tron. Perfection.
PS. I still have several C64s and Amigas in my attic. Some of them even run.
That floppy drive had the same CPU as the computer. In theory you actually could play a game on the computer while the disk drive printed a spreadsheet on a daisy chained printer, though it would be tricky to setup.
As a die-hard Commodore fan, I feel deeply insulted by the fact that I fully agree with the statements in this video.
"There it goes my 1000 lines of Basic Program", I remember when I use to do document typing with excel on desktop in Nigeria where we have very unstable electricity and no UPS, it was a nightmare.
I wrote my first (basic) program in 1988 (and first calculator program in 86), but yes all was exactly the same, becouse it was USSR and we was definitely late in personal computers. So disk drive is luxury and much pricier than zx, basic pokes, memory map, VDP registers and assembler codes - all remembered ✅Games from tape and then floppy’s. Not commodore 64 but ZX, than MSX2 128. Congrats- almost all nailed perfect 👌
And i have C experience on msx - Aztec C. It was hard, yep.
Did you have the Yunost TV?
@ i have unused small bw tv named VL 100 (almost portable, 6 inch i think) so i MODIFIED it to have Video input and its was my first monitor for handmade RK86 computer (soviet one based on i8080 analog with 32kb ram and text only) and then first monitor for ZX spectrum clone. Later i obtained color tv middle size, similar to Yunost but other name. And got it connected to ZX tru RGB mod. Monitors was rare so we all do some TV modifications to connect ZX or other 8bit home computers
Luxury. I remember ZX81 ram packs.
Not saving before turning off the computer 🫨🫨
So crazy that I got all the stuff from the 90s video and almost nothing from this one. Generations are real. Wild!
I had Quake 1 on 24 floppies (packed with WinRAR - the only app whose interface never changed since 1996)! It took about 3 hours to install. One day, disk 23 was corrupted, it was a real nightmare to create a new working version. Hahaha
Good old times. That really brings back memories. 😊
This is amazing, I feel like you could actually show it to a computer nerd from the 80's and they'd get all these jokes hehe
The German edition of Count Zero called Biochips came out in '88. He definitely should have an Amiga 500.
Those things were expensive. A stock A500 sold for 500 UK pounds in 1988, that's $2000 in today's money. You'd need to mow a whole lot of lawns to afford that.
The monitor mounted on books took me back 🤣
You say disk drives, I say cassette tapes.
I feel very called out on this video and yet I am loving it so much because it is so great. I was a total Commodore snob and we all used to call the TRS-80 the “trash 80” and Atari users were annoying. And basically everything in this video lol ( and I did have the memory map mostly memorized )
SYS64738 baby!
The only thing that an old timer like me would take issue with is I wouldn’t be caught dead with that monitor… commodore 1084 or 1702 or nothing baby!
( a couple of the jokes are technically more of a 90’s problem… monitor refresh rates and word processors on 10 disks and was more of a 1992+ kind of thing… and more in the PC realm, and basic didn’t come out u til DOS5 in 91 but so this is all so true and hilarious)
Compared to what I had access to in the late 80s, this C64 setup would have been a high tech super computer I could only dream of.
Yeah a disk drive AND a monitor? And the guy says he has no money.
You've just earned a subscriber.
This brings back memories 😄
0:08 Good old times, when you got rickrolled by your local radio station.
80s programming nerd here, there’s no substitute for 6502 assembly on a C64, best fun you can have coding. And no word processors until the 90s came on a single disk. WordPerfect 5.2
Can i go back? Just in time to catch the 90s coming and the good times rollin...
Nailed it. On so many levels.
Having a hard disc in the 80's... Mr money bags over here. Now where's that 16th 5 1/4" floppy disc so i can load this program..
xMy apple IIgs was on the internet in 1990 and i had a removeable syquest hard disk drive for it and 12 inch graphics tablet.. it was souped up with sound card and a transwarpGS accelerator .. that thing lasted me from, 1987-1996… ! it was a beast…every slot was full. and all in color with a finder Macos interface
🤣
Ugh.. I don't miss those days!
Thx
"Staying on level 1 in your game builds character" lol
I miss the pre-jam sound of the dot matrix printer. You could print in glorious colour with a Star LC-10.
I remember the 80's. Should have had a reference to Ultima by Lord British. Still, this was pretty bang on. I remember Edlin was a crap text editor.
Best chain of one-liners I've heard in ever
"Joysticks are the future!" Clickclick, clickclick, clickclick, click. 🤣
7:56 is gold.
Those damn green monitors really made crossing the New York traffic lights in Last Ninja 2 a hell more difficult ....
I once had a working floppy disk. I put it in it's sleeve, and then I wrote what was on it on the sleeve. With a ballpoint pen. I no longer had a working floppy disk.
Bro these are literally the glasses passed down to me by my 80s computer nerd dad
I was waiting for Ah-ha to show up and it did!
Still love that song. Reminds me of my childhood.
Don't forget the Commodore SX and DX-64, "luggables" that worked pretty well... with a 3" crt
This makes me nostalgic!
lmao imagine having a computer so undercooked that your disk drive needs its own CPU
- this post made by Atari gang
Calendar entry from the 1980's : "June 16, 2016 - ping pongpractice"
who has the key for my floppy disk storage case???
The Commodore 64 Programmer's Reference Guide is 50% of why I learned English as a kid.
Meanwhile, the guy with the IRIS 2000 workstation looking down on everyone else. You either compute or you eat. Not both. ;)
Real artists f*ckin ship!!!!
6:26 - Zork reference 😁
It's 2024 and people are still making those "Interactive Fiction" games for Infocom Z-Machine. (I've never been able to beat _Curses_ (1993) by Graham Nelson.)
I remember trying to understand Turbo Pascal in the 90s and I stopped at page 27 of the book.
He deserves his Netflix stand up special!
The stack of books under the monitor is so real...
1000 lines of code, just smash out another 3000 and presto, you've got DOS.
I'm triggered by the green monochrome screen on the C64, known for it's 16 colors.....
Finally, a video your haircut is suited to. ;))
he's baaaaackkkk
Just tried to change the video resolution to save my bandwidth but there is no options.
Ah... just need sometime.
If my Dad had an Atari I wouldn't have talked to him for a year!
0:05 *immediate* flashbacks 😂
0:08 That's got to be the most tasteful I've ever seen
Ouch! My own SID chip was broken for a while.
I'm sure this is recreated with AI in this amazing 4K version
joystick is the future!
Without Turbo 3600 my C=16 and Datasette 1531 were able to stop a time.
Nobody in the 80's would use the term AAA games, as it was not invented yet.
thin ice, very thin
for real though you should replace that original power supply, they are known to fry C64s
I use a 1200 baud rate when saving my basicode to cassette.
Hilarious! 🤣
Has this been GAN/CNN upscaled from 4:3 450 lines or have you travelled back in time?
"this BASIC program took 3 months to write . . . from the magazine" - Man, those were the days. And then it took another 3 months to find the errors that you made.🙂
I remember installing Linux and Windows from flopies 😊
OMG, where did you get the "Electric Dreams" poster!?