Oh I’m sorry. Are you a sad wittle man? A wittle boy who can’t connect to your wittle boy feelings because you think the world revolves around your small dick, big truck and misogynistic brain waves. I feel sympathy for the people that have to deal with you and even more so, your brain that has to power you. ❤
She left out the sickest part of Kanye's abuse. He made a fantasy revenge sex video of her because she said she never agreed to being called a bitch in his song, and because she said that he and Kim recorded a phone conversation that Kim edited in their favor pretending that she had heard that lyric and approved it (an unknown person later released the entire unedited recording proving taylor was telling the truth).He had a realistic (sex) doll made specifically for his Famous video, where he depicted her 'naked' and sleeping in bed with him. There are behind the scenes of Kanye, Kim (who was the victim of revenge porn herself), and good 'ol Scooter laughing and playing with their Taylor doll.again, he had a life sized, realistic doll depicting down to her freckles what they imagined her naked body would look like and then filmed it for the entire world to look at. It doesn't matter if you like someone as a person, or if you enjoy their music. That's sick.
The way you explained how Taylor taking a break and experiencing life would enrich her songwriting , while also complimenting her craft by saying she’d be the best person to tell stories like that , was really profound . Great insight Nathan !
Lover is so under-appreciated. It’s a masterpiece, its momentum was stolen by the pandemic. It has always been a great album, and now because of the Eras Tour finally people start realising this.
The biggest problem was the singles, especially the first two. People REALLY didn't like them and it damaged the album's reception. It was also a very weird choice to not have released Cruel Summer as a single, it seemed to be an obvious choice.
I love Lovers as well. That summer I was jamming out to "you need to calm down" and the acoustic version of her song "lover" is just beautiful. I think what she meant when she said she was going to make a better album wasn't that the songs we're going to be better than the ones on reputation. I think that she wanted to create an album that was something that the general audience might accept more. She even used it to send out a positive message and to reveal who she really was as a person. Like it was part of this mass voting registration movement as well. It's like she used it to fight the villains. 😊
reputation was nominated for a grammy but wasn't in a main category, and because reputation was her comeback after all the 2016 drama, she really wanted it to be a success at the grammys too, she definitely felt that the industry still hated her
Here is a fact you guys at Welp might find satisfying, I know us Swifties sure do. Taylor's first two albums, the ones that she had released at the time of the VMA incident with Kanye, have outsold Kanyes ENTIRE CATALOGUE TO DATE, two times over. Those two records alone. 😄 ❤️ Taylor!
I hate when you guys say your channel sucks! It’s the best channel ever! It’s so nice and refreshing to see your guys’ point of view on all things Taylor Swift! Absolutely love the reaction & y’all are officially Swifties in my book
as a swiftie watching that documentary was really hard for me. She went through so much shit and she did absolutely nothing. 2016 was really rough for us swifties and her coming back from that will always be iconic and groudbreaking. Her talking about her ed and sa case always hurts each time I watch it bc it goes to show that people don't really care about what you are going though, they will just make stuff up about you like on magazines and put it out there not knowing what that person is going through. This documentary talks about a lot and you really get a good perspective into taylors life a little bit.
I appreciated and admired that that she chose to touch on the disordered eating in this doc, because it can be a really difficult and personal thing to talk about. )And as a bonus, I think there is also value for other people in hearing her say "I was not ok and this was not good for me")
Thank you for actually taking the time to listen and respond to this video and to hear her story. And I lover her Reputation/Revenge Tour and how she flipped the table on Kanye, Kim and the media. Proud of her❤❤
Nathan talking about Taylor taking time off and gathering new stories and coming back with deeper, richer stories…you’re not wrong. Thats what we got out of lockdown and her forced slowdown…evermore/folklore.
Lover for me is one of her best album. They're just hating her being happy specially the song Me! After 4 years Lover reentered the top 10 albums today! Thats crazy
Well, it's subjective, right? It's also my least favorite from her. And no, not because I 'hated seeing her happy.' I mean, no one feels that way. That's stupid
@@josephinakeam6197 nah majority of people hates the album because of me (as i stated on my main comment) and their comment is like it's not that deep song lyric wise. They just don't understand that she created it for fun and happiness. I respect your choice tho.
Everyone has their own opinions on preference but lover missed its day for a lot of reasons. 1. Ppl didn't like her getting political 2. Covid made this the only album that didn't tour post debut. The tour always pumps streams Tbh I think a lot of ppl just nvr got past the singles because of the above.
*Just to note.* when she is talking about the groping case and she mentions what the "lawyer" said "Why didn't you move further away?" if you actually look at the picture you can see that THERE IS a distance between him and her, so the PICTURE captures the moment HIS hand was on her A$$ and her MOVING AWAY from him towards the other woman (who happened to be HIS girlfriend) had this been a video instead of a picture we might have seen her moving away. Also in my mind, the timing of HIM suing her is iffy, it was right around the *hate train* had started (I know the incident was in 2012/2013 and the case went to court in 2017 so you draw your own conclusions) and I swear I think HE saw an opportunity here, "everyone HATES her now so if I sue her it will add to the hate and I have a good chance to win the case and get loads of money off of her" (could I be wrong? maybe but, that is how it felt and still feels)
OMG THIS SO MUCH!!! I was about to comment the same thing, I am glad someone else did as well. This is very much a gendered issue, and I have seen other men comment similarly and not seeing it from women's perspective, and clearly not getting it. And it irks me _so_ much... Being a good girl often means being invisible, silent ( i.e. silenced), polite, etc. That is the programming that too many girls receive from very early on and how they build their identity (as Taylor clearly has done). It is not healthy in a long run, and nothing anyone should aspire to be. Yes, we should all try to be good people, but let's not teach the future generations to be good girls.
The thing about Taylor is that she explained WHY she was voting for a certain candidate. She didn’t tell people who to vote for. She made a very intelligent post about voting. always going above & beyond.
I feel very sorry for whoever thinks an album that has iconic songs like "Death by a Thousand Cuts" (the bridge of this song alone is a masterpiece), "Daylight", "Cornelia Street", "Cruel Summer" is a bad Taylor album. There is no such thing as a bad Taylor album. Period.
Sorry to disappoint all of you Lover stans but Lover is her worst album. It has no specificity, sonic cohesivity and even the top class songwriting excluding a few songs. All of her other albums have a certain niche aspect about them. On Lover, there are so many weird songs. IFTYE being the album opener is so weird as it still drags the baggage of the past and prevents her from starting a new chapter in her life. Also, the song's production is so childish. The Archer is average, it is really overhyped but as a song about anxiety it lacks the lyricism essential for a Taylor song. I don't think I need to talk about ME, Yntcd and even the Man(an attempt to be too savage, but ending up as a foolish song). Daylight is again a childish song and gets the hype because of the little speech and comparison to Red. Paper Rings is so cheesy and weird. It seems to be written by a 6 year old girl falling in love and wanting to marry someone with paper rings. Inthaf is fine but I still don't know why it was on the album, its such a filler.
Taylor Swift will never ever stop writing and performing her music, it is like breathing to her.❤ The reason for the eras tour was because she had 4 albums released since the last tour and since she is re-recording her old music and bringing attention to that, and at the same time celebrating her prevoius work. Brilliant marketing strategy! Thank you for reacting to this documentary🥰
In reference to the Kanye thing, I just wanted to mention, Beyoncé gave Taylor back her moment at the next award show, I don’t remember if it was a VMA show or another. But she brought Taylor on stage so she could have her moment that Kayne took from her.
Yeah I believe it was actually later that same night I when Beyonce won what might have been the final award given out and she immediately asked Taylor to come out. It was truly a classy thing to do and she got to give a full speech but it's easty to see how the Kanye moment could effect her. This is such a brilliant doc.
It would have meant something if Beyoncé hadn’t been filmed earlier enjoying every minute of what Kanye did, if the audience hadn’t booed I doubt she would have asked Taylor to join her.
Lover is a great album it’s just under appreciated (because it doesn’t have a lot of sad songs lol 😂let taytay write happy songs too) I personally love lover one of my favorite Taylor Swift album.
soon you’ll get better is a sad song that is too sad lol, so I can’t listen to it, like I love lover so much (even being a sad song girlie) like it is still one of my most streamed albums.
Ok just finished the whole thing. Ryan and Nathan, that was FANTASTIC. That is one of the best redactions I’ve ever seen Seeing Taylor in Nashville in a couple weeks. This was the perfect pre concert prep. Well done!
Thanks guys for all that you do. Much love and respect ❤❤🙂 I just subscribed to your channel. I am SO PROUD of TS always being herself. And I'm a 39 yr old woman. So SO much respect for her.
I love how you guys had this whole spiel about the smart buisiness move of not getting involved in politics, right before the part where she got involved in politics
Lover is her most streamed album on streaming platforms so it’s doing pretty well!! And it isn’t her worst album, it’s very sweet and has many stand outs
Sorry to disappoint all of you Lover stans but Lover is her worst album. It has no specificity, sonic cohesivity and even the top class songwriting excluding a few songs. All of her other albums have a certain niche aspect about them. On Lover, there are so many weird songs. IFTYE being the album opener is so weird as it still drags the baggage of the past and prevents her from starting a new chapter in her life. Also, the song's production is so childish. The Archer is average, it is really overhyped but as a song about anxiety it lacks the lyricism essential for a Taylor song. I don't think I need to talk about ME, Yntcd and even the Man(an attempt to be too savage, but ending up as a foolish song). Daylight is again a childish song and gets the hype because of the little speech and comparison to Red. Paper Rings is so cheesy and weird. It seems to be written by a 6 year old girl falling in love and wanting to marry someone with paper rings. Inthaf is fine but I still don't know why it was on the album, its such a filler.
Maybe she'll stop touring after ERAS, but she has written a screenplay that has been greenlit and will go into production. There are so many things she can do. It will be fun to see her do her thing!
She will definitely not stop touring. She missed touring and that's the Eras tour is there. Not only she is performing from all her eras because she loves touring but also to promote her re-recordings era.
I hate when people say lover was a flop. It was #7 on the billboard charts last week (feb 2024) as well as #11 on the year end charts for 2023, despite being released in 2019. No one else can achieve that and if that’s how her “worst album” performs… that’s pretty amazing! ❤
I'm sorry, Imm'm at the lover part and wow, it honestly is a VERY good album. I love Cornelia street, lover, death by a thousand cuts, daylight and more. And soon You'll get better is about her mom who has been battling breast cancer.
I can’t see her retiring anytime soon - writing and creating seems to be as vital to her as breathing. I CAN see her taking a break from performing and just writing for other artists for a while.
@@primaveradel78 I sort of imagine that she’ll have a tour in 2026 since that will have been 20 years since she came out with her first album. But you could be right
Only a few minutes in. Where she talks about wanting to be a good girl. Its a bit more complex than just trying to be a good person. I think yes, most people want to be a good person.... But i think shes commenting here more on the pressure to be a "good girl" which is a message that starts from the moment we can talk, where little boys are encouraged to explore and take risks and be brave, little girls are rarely told any of those things and are instead encouraged to behave, to listen, to look after others, to take on household chores, to be "good". To be a good person is noble.... To be a "good girl" is a totally different thing and not necessarily something to aspire to.
Lover was an absolute success. It charted on all music charts almost. It wasn't a failure. And her first single ME! became one of the most stremed MV at that time. It has some of her most meaningful and deep songs.
I’ve been a fan of Taylor since she released her first single, Tim McGraw and my grandma is a country fan and still listens to Taylor’s first album on CD all the time lol. I saw her live on the Speak Now tour for my 16th birthday and now I’m 29 lol time flies!
This was such a great video to be able to watch from start to finish as it premieres!! Thank you guys for taking the time to watch the whole documentary and pause to discuss it and pay a lot of attention to all of it! Again, that was a great video!
Taylor's evermore and folklore albums do what you talk about at 23 mins. It's amazing what she does when she writes about imaginary stories and other people's perspectives.
anyone interested in the Dixie chicks part of this should listen to their song 'not ready to make nice' it's essentially their reputation song after the whole debacle.
Nathan: Taylor Swift writes songs from her own experience. Folklore and Evermore: What am I? Also she wrote Betty, Cardigan, and August from the perspective of three fictional characters.
the thing with Lover is the lockdown. Lover is a GREAT ABLUM but definitly one that wouldve shined so much more live. Kind of like reputation. A lot of ppl didnt like that album but when they saw the AMAZING tour it grew a lot on them. Lover definitly wouldve been so much more loved if it had had a tour.
It’s so funny how swifties actively ranked Lover as her worst album but will still listen to it so much that it’s in top 10 of BB200 in years after it’s released.
But are they listening to the whole album front to back??? Or just the good songs? Lover has a lot of great songs on it... but then there's a lot of "I Forgot that you Existed" fillers in it. I can see if 8 out of 18 songs are getting constant attention how someone will say Lover as a whole is trending. Her good songs from the album are like really, really good. Her other songs on the album are kind of mid to okay. Not bad by any means, but borderline forgettable.
@@RobGamesOn I honestly never connected with Lover as much as I did with 1989(only comparing her pop albums), and it’s too soon to say anything about midnights and reputation will always be in 1989s shadow.
I think maybe the reason why the Rep nomination was so important to her is more about the context of what she'd been experiencing around that time. 1989 had been the pinnacle of her career thus far. She had just essentially gone into hiding for a year after being decimated on social media by Kanye and Kim. She thought her career was over. Reputation was her big comeback and at the time, she probably thought the success or failure of Reputation was going to foreshadow her future success in the industry.
After the huge success of The Eras Tour, her re-records and her albums in the last 5 years, I'm 100% sure she is not done making music and Swifties are not done listening to her. I'm sure she'll stick around for about 10 years from now and even more actually as a public figure and the Swifties will keep listening to her music. She has officially become a SUPERSTAR and a POP PERSONA.
Taylor did take off for 2 years during the Pandemic! That’s when she wrote Folklore & Evermore & both of those albums were about characters that were fictional . Some songs, but very few on both albums were about t out her life m!
I'd like to make a revelation here. Taylor and her team do see what her fans and the general public think about her. Her management is always on social media figuring out the best way to launch a next project and make a public appearance by looking at what the fans are writing and talking about. I'm sure one of her management people do follow you and I really hope they do as your insights and takes on certain situations are fabulous. Keep doing whatever you're doing!! I'm sure one day you'll be one of the significant names on TH-cam under 'Taylor Swift reactors' or just 'reactors to music'.
guys you took that comment to heart about Lover being her worst album but that was only ONE person’s opinion. And not a popular opinion. And the album did VERY well, broke records, won nominations…
Kanye West and Kim Kardashian gave a prime example of when a malignant narcissist target's you and begins a smear campaign. Narcissist most always self-destruct as we have seen in the news Kanye isn't doing so well and Kim will have to put up with him due to the fact she had children with him. I have my opinions about Kim as well...
Lover did well!!! Just because you didnt hear about it so far... the Problem is there was no tour for lover because of covid 😊 and the she just released 3 albums during covid plus re-records
And you wondered about her inspirations: no, it’s NOT all about her own experiences. Folklore and Evermore are mostly about books she read, movies and tv shows she watched, and stories she imagined…
OH MY GOD i effing loooove taylor :') im so happy she's getting the praise she deserves. being 31, i'm genuinely so happy that i was able to grow up with her and her music.
Reputation album was when she came back from a year off, media didn’t like the album, she didn’t receive any Grammy nominations. Her next album was Lover which is completely diff. It did receive a nomination at Grammys but didn’t win. Then pandemic happened.
I'm late to the game, but 1989, the album before reputation, was a HUGE success. It was her first all pop album and her second album to win album of the year. So for reputation to not even get nominated for an award probably was a kick to the gut. More so because she was still overcoming the challenges of her public image at that time.
Ivy is about a real poet, the last great american dynasty is about the real rebecca harkness, beautiful ghosts is inspired & created for the movie cats, carolina was made after she read where the crawdads sing...so many outside influences on her songs. You should check out beautiful ghosts and carolina.
Lover album is by far the best Taylor swift album, one of her most streamed albums. Maybe the reason, people didn't like it because of the kanye west, kim drama and they had a lot fans back than, but tbh Lover is not a bad album. Lover is by far the best work with almost all of the tracks being popular
That Kanye recording their phone conversation really pissed me off because not long before that Kanye sent her a truck load of white roses for what? To say sorry in advance for the planned phone recording? And the worst part was the world sided with Kimye. And the truth only came out when their marriage was falling apart then "someone" leaked the real unedited phone conversation. It took two long years for the world to find out that they condemned Taylor based on an evil edited phone conversation. Thankfully karma is indeed her boyfriend. 😇 Well, gents I can honestly say that you two have become the newest swifties. Welcome to the fandom.👏
It is so silly Taylor had to endure hatred because of bat-shit crazy Kanye and zero integrity Kim...Kim is such an intriguing and smart person....it's a shame she has no morals.
We, as a society have a problem with people being too successful so we relish in their 'downfall '....then, once they've been torn down enough, we all pull back and say, 'wow, everyone was so terrible " as if we were never apart of it. We do it, especially to women, again and again and again.
I know you were kidding, but to clarify her point: no one cares what Billy Joel, Bob Dylan, Paul McCartney, or Paul Simon look like, or how old they get. All that matters is the music. With a woman, every person comments first on how they look, so getting older and not being "a shiny new thing" affects a woman's career, unlike a man's.
It's so... Odd? Interesting? Hitting different about what she said at the end bc 29yo Taylor didn't think she could get any bigger... And a couple of years after she has Folklore and Evermore... And then Midnights and the Eras tour... I wish I could show 29yo Taylor what 33yo Taylor is managing to do
It's such a joy watching you react to this! I loved the rants and how annoyed you got at the horrible ppl shown in the documentary, and i love your sense of humor It's such a good reaction, the kind that you revisit
The most powerful songs to me are political. We are going through something so scary right now with the far right taking away women’s rights to control our bodies. Among many other rights for minorities and lgbtq+. The main cause of death in Children under 19 years old in America are guns. This isn’t some normal thing to laugh off. I love Halsey’s (and Pink’s and Ariana grande’s) music because they have never been afraid to stand up for what’s right. And it’s so powerful and filled with love and unity.
Lover overall doesn’t identify as her “best” work but it has some of her most amazing melodies. It has lot of filler songs which aren’t that bad but not good as Taylor’s standards. That’s all. People are streaming its good songs nowadays since she selected those songs for her current tour.
Even if Taylor ever decided to retire, creating music is something I imagine she can’t stop doing. It’s in her heart and soul - that raw, pure talent and drive to create magic will always be there for her.
This video is really more about you guys.Nothing personal, just watch the documentary.( Taylor is a bigger star,than you two).💙🤷♂️ (believe it, or not).She really has shared alot of her life,with us.💜
This comment you wrote is more about you than us. Nothing personal, Just watch a different channel. We are bigger TH-cam stars than you , believe it or not.
Thank you for uploading this on yt. Lover is my #1 album. I don't have a consistent #2. Maybe Speak Now? I hope we get Taylor's version this week 😁Anyway ily guys!
lover is my favorite album of taylors, it's pop which i personally love but the lyricism is incredible. also, miss americana and the heartbreak prince is a song on Lover. the doc in named after lover lol
Reputation came out when people were still mad at Taylor for the whole Kanye/Kim phone debacle, on which she was later vindicated. Reputation is one of her best albums (and ironically what got me into her music) but was slept on when it came out. Lover isn't bad. It's just different. Tay was still trying to find her footing again, so it's kinda a transitional album before Folklore/Evermore and the re-releases brought her back to the top. It kinda makes me sad in retrospect that Reputation got snubbed. Some of her best work is on that album.
Lover is just now booming for some reason with cruel summer because of the eras tour. Also I think it was supposed to be released before rep but the drama happened so she made and released rep instead. Reputation doesn't have a Taylor's version yet!!! It's going to take off baby! I'm here for it! My fav album. I love everything of her of course..she doesn't have a bad song or album period....
I’m a twenty one pilots fanatic but I’m such a swiftie right now. I love this woman. I hope she and Tyler Joseph stay on alternating album release times and I’ll stay continually happy.
Shes working on Lover. Lover came out right before covid so the tour got cancelled and it was very overlooked but is swifties loved it. 😍 It gave us Cruel Summer! Reputation didnt do well at Grammys but the stadium tour was the highest grossing your in US ever as of 2018. She was really just hoping to do well because she was hoping the drama of the media was over, she thought everyone was still against her. Keep in mind she left the public view for 3 years before reputation came out and did no pr for it.
I think Taylor's fame, post her speaking up on politics, kinda makes it clear how her fans felt about her coming out against the hateful gop. She resonates with so many people.
Kim’s mom asked her to call Taylor and apologize and she refused. Also Kim used to be a fan of Taylor before she got with Kanye. I think Kim likes drama and either came up with the idea to make Taylor look bad or heard Kanye was planning something malicious to do to Taylor. Also in Kanye’s song famous music video Kanye had a replica of Taylor in bed with him and Kim.
I have only seen snippets of this and didn’t realize they left out the whole Scooter Braun debacle, which was huge in her life. Love your reaction. If you’re not familiar with that event, you should Google it. It was very impactful and the reason she wrote My Tears Ricochet
The thing worth the grammy nomination is that it was about Reputation. Reputation was her big big big come back after been heavily cancelled and after the whole internet turning against her. Every tabloid and/or magazine said the Reputation tour would be a massive failure and that she would be playing for empty stadiums (it ended up accomplishing some big things, but I can't remember now). So it REALLY was important to her to have that approval in that specific album. I'm sure she would be said if it was any other album, but not even getting nominated by the one album she kinda needed approval of was certainly big. Also, about Lover.... It's not a bad album. It's basically what she just said in the beginning of the documentary. If she doesn't top everything she's done prior, it will be seen as a massive failure. That's why people think it's bad. Only because in their minds (and I'm not discussing what it is true or not) it isn't as good as the other things she had done before. Even her "worst" album did greater than a lot of recent albums from others big celebrities. Because it's not bad.
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shut up and don't watch the video if it bothers you
Oh I’m sorry. Are you a sad wittle man? A wittle boy who can’t connect to your wittle boy feelings because you think the world revolves around your small dick, big truck and misogynistic brain waves. I feel sympathy for the people that have to deal with you and even more so, your brain that has to power you. ❤
Whoever smelt it dealt it 😂
Isn't this loser in every comment section? Get a life lol
She left out the sickest part of Kanye's abuse. He made a fantasy revenge sex video of her because she said she never agreed to being called a bitch in his song, and because she said that he and Kim recorded a phone conversation that Kim edited in their favor pretending that she had heard that lyric and approved it (an unknown person later released the entire unedited recording proving taylor was telling the truth).He had a realistic (sex) doll made specifically for his Famous video, where he depicted her 'naked' and sleeping in bed with him. There are behind the scenes of Kanye, Kim (who was the victim of revenge porn herself), and good 'ol Scooter laughing and playing with their Taylor doll.again, he had a life sized, realistic doll depicting down to her freckles what they imagined her naked body would look like and then filmed it for the entire world to look at. It doesn't matter if you like someone as a person, or if you enjoy their music. That's sick.
What is the name of the video?
@@Simona.2323 why would you want to watch it wtf
@@drawl13 I just want to see how crazy Kanye is 🤷🏻♀️
He is such a prick! I didn't like him before that but at the least respected him as an artist after all the shit though now I think he's a pig.
That’s f* psycho
The way you explained how Taylor taking a break and experiencing life would enrich her songwriting , while also complimenting her craft by saying she’d be the best person to tell stories like that , was really profound . Great insight Nathan !
jail to the person who said lover is her worst album
Period
That would be me.
@@josephinakeam6197 lover haters confuse me
Taylor's worst albums is equal to some others best album to he honest.
@marley cymón I'm not a "hater"...there are several songs on that album I absolutely adore. My least favorite Taylor album is still a good album.
Lover is so under-appreciated. It’s a masterpiece, its momentum was stolen by the pandemic. It has always been a great album, and now because of the Eras Tour finally people start realising this.
The biggest problem was the singles, especially the first two. People REALLY didn't like them and it damaged the album's reception. It was also a very weird choice to not have released Cruel Summer as a single, it seemed to be an obvious choice.
I love Lovers as well. That summer I was jamming out to "you need to calm down" and the acoustic version of her song "lover" is just beautiful. I think what she meant when she said she was going to make a better album wasn't that the songs we're going to be better than the ones on reputation. I think that she wanted to create an album that was something that the general audience might accept more. She even used it to send out a positive message and to reveal who she really was as a person. Like it was part of this mass voting registration movement as well. It's like she used it to fight the villains. 😊
@@enriquesanchez9016Cruel Summer was supposed to be the last single, but then the pandemic hit, so she scrapped it.
@@Clydrian But the thing is, it should've been the lead single or at least the second single. Choosing it as a last single was pretty absurd.
i appreciate lover so much more after tour
reputation was nominated for a grammy but wasn't in a main category, and because reputation was her comeback after all the 2016 drama, she really wanted it to be a success at the grammys too, she definitely felt that the industry still hated her
Reputation was so misunderstood. It was genius! It's probably my favorite I think.
YES!!! I love the David Tennant _Hamlet_! I used to use it in my classes. ❤️
Reputation lost to sweetener by ariana
I am not a Swifty, but I respect the hell out of her as a musician, and a person.
Here is a fact you guys at Welp might find satisfying, I know us Swifties sure do.
Taylor's first two albums, the ones that she had released at the time of the VMA incident with Kanye, have outsold Kanyes ENTIRE CATALOGUE TO DATE, two times over. Those two records alone. 😄 ❤️ Taylor!
where did you learn this??
@kaylabrunton7860 Wikipedia. According to the numbers they have listed on each of their wikipedia pages where the album's and numbers sold is stated.
I hate when you guys say your channel sucks! It’s the best channel ever! It’s so nice and refreshing to see your guys’ point of view on all things Taylor Swift! Absolutely love the reaction & y’all are officially Swifties in my book
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True! It is my fav channel right now!
This idiot agrees with David Letterman high fiving young Taylor when she was afraid to speak up.
They want women conforming, quiet and meek.
as a swiftie watching that documentary was really hard for me. She went through so much shit and she did absolutely nothing. 2016 was really rough for us swifties and her coming back from that will always be iconic and groudbreaking. Her talking about her ed and sa case always hurts each time I watch it bc it goes to show that people don't really care about what you are going though, they will just make stuff up about you like on magazines and put it out there not knowing what that person is going through. This documentary talks about a lot and you really get a good perspective into taylors life a little bit.
As a swiftie watching him talk about "being good" knowing what's coming is so funny
I appreciated and admired that that she chose to touch on the disordered eating in this doc, because it can be a really difficult and personal thing to talk about. )And as a bonus, I think there is also value for other people in hearing her say "I was not ok and this was not good for me")
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Thank you for actually taking the time to listen and respond to this video and to hear her story. And I lover her Reputation/Revenge Tour and how she flipped the table on Kanye, Kim and the media. Proud of her❤❤
Nathan talking about Taylor taking time off and gathering new stories and coming back with deeper, richer stories…you’re not wrong. Thats what we got out of lockdown and her forced slowdown…evermore/folklore.
Lover for me is one of her best album. They're just hating her being happy specially the song Me! After 4 years Lover reentered the top 10 albums today! Thats crazy
Well, it's subjective, right? It's also my least favorite from her. And no, not because I 'hated seeing her happy.' I mean, no one feels that way. That's stupid
@@josephinakeam6197 nah majority of people hates the album because of me (as i stated on my main comment) and their comment is like it's not that deep song lyric wise. They just don't understand that she created it for fun and happiness. I respect your choice tho.
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I like Lover more than the last 3 albums hehe
Everyone has their own opinions on preference but lover missed its day for a lot of reasons. 1. Ppl didn't like her getting political 2. Covid made this the only album that didn't tour post debut. The tour always pumps streams
Tbh I think a lot of ppl just nvr got past the singles because of the above.
*Just to note.* when she is talking about the groping case and she mentions what the "lawyer" said "Why didn't you move further away?" if you actually look at the picture you can see that THERE IS a distance between him and her, so the PICTURE captures the moment HIS hand was on her A$$ and her MOVING AWAY from him towards the other woman (who happened to be HIS girlfriend) had this been a video instead of a picture we might have seen her moving away.
Also in my mind, the timing of HIM suing her is iffy, it was right around the *hate train* had started (I know the incident was in 2012/2013 and the case went to court in 2017 so you draw your own conclusions) and I swear I think HE saw an opportunity here, "everyone HATES her now so if I sue her it will add to the hate and I have a good chance to win the case and get loads of money off of her" (could I be wrong? maybe but, that is how it felt and still feels)
It’s a big difference between being a good person and being a good girl in the eyes of the world.
OMG THIS SO MUCH!!! I was about to comment the same thing, I am glad someone else did as well. This is very much a gendered issue, and I have seen other men comment similarly and not seeing it from women's perspective, and clearly not getting it. And it irks me _so_ much... Being a good girl often means being invisible, silent ( i.e. silenced), polite, etc. That is the programming that too many girls receive from very early on and how they build their identity (as Taylor clearly has done). It is not healthy in a long run, and nothing anyone should aspire to be. Yes, we should all try to be good people, but let's not teach the future generations to be good girls.
The thing about Taylor is that she explained WHY she was voting for a certain candidate. She didn’t tell people who to vote for. She made a very intelligent post about voting. always going above & beyond.
I feel very sorry for whoever thinks an album that has iconic songs like "Death by a Thousand Cuts" (the bridge of this song alone is a masterpiece), "Daylight", "Cornelia Street", "Cruel Summer" is a bad Taylor album. There is no such thing as a bad Taylor album. Period.
Sorry to disappoint all of you Lover stans but Lover is her worst album. It has no specificity, sonic cohesivity and even the top class songwriting excluding a few songs. All of her other albums have a certain niche aspect about them. On Lover, there are so many weird songs. IFTYE being the album opener is so weird as it still drags the baggage of the past and prevents her from starting a new chapter in her life. Also, the song's production is so childish. The Archer is average, it is really overhyped but as a song about anxiety it lacks the lyricism essential for a Taylor song. I don't think I need to talk about ME, Yntcd and even the Man(an attempt to be too savage, but ending up as a foolish song). Daylight is again a childish song and gets the hype because of the little speech and comparison to Red. Paper Rings is so cheesy and weird. It seems to be written by a 6 year old girl falling in love and wanting to marry someone with paper rings. Inthaf is fine but I still don't know why it was on the album, its such a filler.
Taylor Swift will never ever stop writing and performing her music, it is like breathing to her.❤ The reason for the eras tour was because she had 4 albums released since the last tour and since she is re-recording her old music and bringing attention to that, and at the same time celebrating her prevoius work. Brilliant marketing strategy! Thank you for reacting to this documentary🥰
In reference to the Kanye thing, I just wanted to mention, Beyoncé gave Taylor back her moment at the next award show, I don’t remember if it was a VMA show or another. But she brought Taylor on stage so she could have her moment that Kayne took from her.
Yeah I believe it was actually later that same night I when Beyonce won what might have been the final award given out and she immediately asked Taylor to come out. It was truly a classy thing to do and she got to give a full speech but it's easty to see how the Kanye moment could effect her. This is such a brilliant doc.
It would have meant something if Beyoncé hadn’t been filmed earlier enjoying every minute of what Kanye did, if the audience hadn’t booed I doubt she would have asked Taylor to join her.
@@JOTennisVid was it? I could never recall if it was that same night but you are right I do believe.
@@cloverite I’ve watched that footage many times and she doesn’t look happy she looked embarrassed and shocked.
dying over the Lover album part 😂 she’s getting praised nowadays 4 years later!! doing 7 million streams per day on spotify only
Lover finally has a #1 on Hot100 and is doing 10M+ now 🥳
@@RandomGuy23_ talk about longevity! we love to see it
Lover is under appreciated. I love the songs Lover, Cruel Summer, Cornelia Street, and Paper Rings.
Lover has the most iconic songs. Especially the lover song is the ultimate wedding song. Honestly lover is a great album. Each era has its place.
Lover is a great album it’s just under appreciated (because it doesn’t have a lot of sad songs lol 😂let taytay write happy songs too) I personally love lover one of my favorite Taylor Swift album.
soon you’ll get better is a sad song that is too sad lol, so I can’t listen to it, like I love lover so much (even being a sad song girlie) like it is still one of my most streamed albums.
Ok just finished the whole thing.
Ryan and Nathan, that was FANTASTIC. That is one of the best redactions I’ve ever seen
Seeing Taylor in Nashville in a couple weeks. This was the perfect pre concert prep.
Well done!
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I’m seeing her in Nashville too! Have so much fun. 🖤
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Thanks guys for all that you do. Much love and respect ❤❤🙂 I just subscribed to your channel. I am SO PROUD of TS always being herself. And I'm a 39 yr old woman. So SO much respect for her.
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"Why didn't you scream? Why didn't you react quicker? Why didn't you stand further away from him?"
Or, you know, why didn't he not grope her?
Exactly! Like why was it on her to stop it when it shouldn't have happened in the first place!!
I love how you guys had this whole spiel about the smart buisiness move of not getting involved in politics, right before the part where she got involved in politics
Lover is her most streamed album on streaming platforms so it’s doing pretty well!! And it isn’t her worst album, it’s very sweet and has many stand outs
Sorry to disappoint all of you Lover stans but Lover is her worst album. It has no specificity, sonic cohesivity and even the top class songwriting excluding a few songs. All of her other albums have a certain niche aspect about them. On Lover, there are so many weird songs. IFTYE being the album opener is so weird as it still drags the baggage of the past and prevents her from starting a new chapter in her life. Also, the song's production is so childish. The Archer is average, it is really overhyped but as a song about anxiety it lacks the lyricism essential for a Taylor song. I don't think I need to talk about ME, Yntcd and even the Man(an attempt to be too savage, but ending up as a foolish song). Daylight is again a childish song and gets the hype because of the little speech and comparison to Red. Paper Rings is so cheesy and weird. It seems to be written by a 6 year old girl falling in love and wanting to marry someone with paper rings. Inthaf is fine but I still don't know why it was on the album, its such a filler.
Maybe she'll stop touring after ERAS, but she has written a screenplay that has been greenlit and will go into production. There are so many things she can do. It will be fun to see her do her thing!
She will definitely not stop touring. She missed touring and that's the Eras tour is there. Not only she is performing from all her eras because she loves touring but also to promote her re-recordings era.
I hate when people say lover was a flop. It was #7 on the billboard charts last week (feb 2024) as well as #11 on the year end charts for 2023, despite being released in 2019. No one else can achieve that and if that’s how her “worst album” performs… that’s pretty amazing! ❤
I'm sorry, Imm'm at the lover part and wow, it honestly is a VERY good album. I love Cornelia street, lover, death by a thousand cuts, daylight and more. And soon You'll get better is about her mom who has been battling breast cancer.
Thank you. When i heard "its her worst album", i was shocked, whoever said that. Like,, it is such a good album...
I can’t see her retiring anytime soon - writing and creating seems to be as vital to her as breathing. I CAN see her taking a break from performing and just writing for other artists for a while.
I think this is her last big tour...
@@primaveradel78 I doubt that. She's young, She'll probably just take a break.
@@primaveradel78 I sort of imagine that she’ll have a tour in 2026 since that will have been 20 years since she came out with her first album. But you could be right
Only a few minutes in. Where she talks about wanting to be a good girl. Its a bit more complex than just trying to be a good person. I think yes, most people want to be a good person.... But i think shes commenting here more on the pressure to be a "good girl" which is a message that starts from the moment we can talk, where little boys are encouraged to explore and take risks and be brave, little girls are rarely told any of those things and are instead encouraged to behave, to listen, to look after others, to take on household chores, to be "good". To be a good person is noble.... To be a "good girl" is a totally different thing and not necessarily something to aspire to.
Lover was an absolute success. It charted on all music charts almost. It wasn't a failure. And her first single ME! became one of the most stremed MV at that time. It has some of her most meaningful and deep songs.
she also started working on lover during rep so that's why they are so close together. But making lover made her so happy
I’ve been a fan of Taylor since she released her first single, Tim McGraw and my grandma is a country fan and still listens to Taylor’s first album on CD all the time lol. I saw her live on the Speak Now tour for my 16th birthday and now I’m 29 lol time flies!
Do you listen to the new albums? 😊
This was such a great video to be able to watch from start to finish as it premieres!! Thank you guys for taking the time to watch the whole documentary and pause to discuss it and pay a lot of attention to all of it! Again, that was a great video!
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Taylor's evermore and folklore albums do what you talk about at 23 mins. It's amazing what she does when she writes about imaginary stories and other people's perspectives.
anyone interested in the Dixie chicks part of this should listen to their song 'not ready to make nice' it's essentially their reputation song after the whole debacle.
Nathan: Taylor Swift writes songs from her own experience.
Folklore and Evermore: What am I?
Also she wrote Betty, Cardigan, and August from the perspective of three fictional characters.
Her two best albums . That's what you are.
Fiction can have elements of truth, and often does. Especially if you’re a songwriter and even more so if you’re Taylor Swift.
the thing with Lover is the lockdown. Lover is a GREAT ABLUM but definitly one that wouldve shined so much more live. Kind of like reputation. A lot of ppl didnt like that album but when they saw the AMAZING tour it grew a lot on them. Lover definitly wouldve been so much more loved if it had had a tour.
It’s so funny how swifties actively ranked Lover as her worst album but will still listen to it so much that it’s in top 10 of BB200 in years after it’s released.
But are they listening to the whole album front to back??? Or just the good songs? Lover has a lot of great songs on it... but then there's a lot of "I Forgot that you Existed" fillers in it. I can see if 8 out of 18 songs are getting constant attention how someone will say Lover as a whole is trending. Her good songs from the album are like really, really good. Her other songs on the album are kind of mid to okay. Not bad by any means, but borderline forgettable.
@@RobGamesOn I honestly never connected with Lover as much as I did with 1989(only comparing her pop albums), and it’s too soon to say anything about midnights and reputation will always be in 1989s shadow.
I think maybe the reason why the Rep nomination was so important to her is more about the context of what she'd been experiencing around that time. 1989 had been the pinnacle of her career thus far. She had just essentially gone into hiding for a year after being decimated on social media by Kanye and Kim. She thought her career was over. Reputation was her big comeback and at the time, she probably thought the success or failure of Reputation was going to foreshadow her future success in the industry.
After the huge success of The Eras Tour, her re-records and her albums in the last 5 years, I'm 100% sure she is not done making music and Swifties are not done listening to her. I'm sure she'll stick around for about 10 years from now and even more actually as a public figure and the Swifties will keep listening to her music. She has officially become a SUPERSTAR and a POP PERSONA.
Taylor did take off for 2 years during the Pandemic! That’s when she wrote Folklore & Evermore & both of those albums were about characters that were fictional . Some songs, but very few on both albums were about t out her life m!
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Taylor thought everyone was booing her, That was so sad. Taylor took that really hard.
Lover literally just went back to the top 10 of the Billboard 200. That person just hates fun.
I've only ever watched your TØP reactions, but I love documentaries and I'm a casual taylor fan and this was a really great watch..much love
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I'd like to make a revelation here. Taylor and her team do see what her fans and the general public think about her. Her management is always on social media figuring out the best way to launch a next project and make a public appearance by looking at what the fans are writing and talking about. I'm sure one of her management people do follow you and I really hope they do as your insights and takes on certain situations are fabulous. Keep doing whatever you're doing!! I'm sure one day you'll be one of the significant names on TH-cam under 'Taylor Swift reactors' or just 'reactors to music'.
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guys you took that comment to heart about Lover being her worst album but that was only ONE person’s opinion. And not a popular opinion. And the album did VERY well, broke records, won nominations…
I've watched this on Patreon twice but am watching it here too to give you guys some more views that you deserve ❤ it's such a great reaction!
Kanye West and Kim Kardashian gave a prime example of when a malignant narcissist target's you and begins a smear campaign. Narcissist most always self-destruct as we have seen in the news Kanye isn't doing so well and Kim will have to put up with him due to the fact she had children with him. I have my opinions about Kim as well...
Lover did well!!! Just because you didnt hear about it so far... the Problem is there was no tour for lover because of covid 😊 and the she just released 3 albums during covid plus re-records
And you wondered about her inspirations: no, it’s NOT all about her own experiences. Folklore and Evermore are mostly about books she read, movies and tv shows she watched, and stories she imagined…
OH MY GOD i effing loooove taylor :') im so happy she's getting the praise she deserves. being 31, i'm genuinely so happy that i was able to grow up with her and her music.
Most of the meet and greets are after her concerts, and when you are there her team or even parents pick people out to come meet her
I'm so excited for this!
We were proud she spoke out. Happy to know her mind
Reputation album was when she came back from a year off, media didn’t like the album, she didn’t receive any Grammy nominations. Her next album was Lover which is completely diff. It did receive a nomination at Grammys but didn’t win. Then pandemic happened.
I'm late to the game, but 1989, the album before reputation, was a HUGE success. It was her first all pop album and her second album to win album of the year. So for reputation to not even get nominated for an award probably was a kick to the gut. More so because she was still overcoming the challenges of her public image at that time.
Ivy is about a real poet, the last great american dynasty is about the real rebecca harkness, beautiful ghosts is inspired & created for the movie cats, carolina was made after she read where the crawdads sing...so many outside influences on her songs.
You should check out beautiful ghosts and carolina.
I still can't believe Rep didn't get album of the year. It was the AOTY.
Lover album is by far the best Taylor swift album, one of her most streamed albums. Maybe the reason, people didn't like it because of the kanye west, kim drama and they had a lot fans back than, but tbh Lover is not a bad album. Lover is by far the best work with almost all of the tracks being popular
Im so exciteddd cant wait to see you guys reactions🤍🤍
That Kanye recording their phone conversation really pissed me off because not long before that Kanye sent her a truck load of white roses for what? To say sorry in advance for the planned phone recording? And the worst part was the world sided with Kimye. And the truth only came out when their marriage was falling apart then "someone" leaked the real unedited phone conversation. It took two long years for the world to find out that they condemned Taylor based on an evil edited phone conversation. Thankfully karma is indeed her boyfriend. 😇 Well, gents I can honestly say that you two have become the newest swifties. Welcome to the fandom.👏
It is so silly Taylor had to endure hatred because of bat-shit crazy Kanye and zero integrity Kim...Kim is such an intriguing and smart person....it's a shame she has no morals.
We, as a society have a problem with people being too successful so we relish in their 'downfall '....then, once they've been torn down enough, we all pull back and say, 'wow, everyone was so terrible " as if we were never apart of it. We do it, especially to women, again and again and again.
I know you were kidding, but to clarify her point: no one cares what Billy Joel, Bob Dylan, Paul McCartney, or Paul Simon look like, or how old they get. All that matters is the music. With a woman, every person comments first on how they look, so getting older and not being "a shiny new thing" affects a woman's career, unlike a man's.
It's so... Odd? Interesting? Hitting different about what she said at the end bc 29yo Taylor didn't think she could get any bigger... And a couple of years after she has Folklore and Evermore... And then Midnights and the Eras tour...
I wish I could show 29yo Taylor what 33yo Taylor is managing to do
Taylor Swift cat in that video is worth $97 million. It’s the third richest animal in the world.
Lover is one of my FAVORITE albums!
I love you guys! ❤ you are amazing seriously also I agree don’t ever feel bad for feeling that’s part of why we love you 🫶
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It's such a joy watching you react to this! I loved the rants and how annoyed you got at the horrible ppl shown in the documentary, and i love your sense of humor
It's such a good reaction, the kind that you revisit
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The most powerful songs to me are political. We are going through something so scary right now with the far right taking away women’s rights to control our bodies. Among many other rights for minorities and lgbtq+. The main cause of death in Children under 19 years old in America are guns. This isn’t some normal thing to laugh off. I love Halsey’s (and Pink’s and Ariana grande’s) music because they have never been afraid to stand up for what’s right. And it’s so powerful and filled with love and unity.
Lover overall doesn’t identify as her “best” work but it has some of her most amazing melodies. It has lot of filler songs which aren’t that bad but not good as Taylor’s standards. That’s all. People are streaming its good songs nowadays since she selected those songs for her current tour.
The eras tour ends in December, Taylor said that herself, I was watching the eras tour live stream.
I so enjoyed your reaction! Recently found your channel and you guys are great. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you so much!
Even if Taylor ever decided to retire, creating music is something I imagine she can’t stop doing. It’s in her heart and soul - that raw, pure talent and drive to create magic will always be there for her.
This video is really more about you guys.Nothing personal, just watch the documentary.( Taylor is a bigger star,than you two).💙🤷♂️ (believe it, or not).She really has shared alot of her life,with us.💜
This comment you wrote is more about you than us. Nothing personal, Just watch a different channel. We are bigger TH-cam stars than you , believe it or not.
Thank you for uploading this on yt. Lover is my #1 album. I don't have a consistent #2. Maybe Speak Now? I hope we get Taylor's version this week 😁Anyway ily guys!
It’s odd that Reputation didn’t win best album because it’s the HIGHEST GROSSING TOUR IN HISTORY!!!
lover is my favorite album of taylors, it's pop which i personally love but the lyricism is incredible. also, miss americana and the heartbreak prince is a song on Lover. the doc in named after lover lol
Ryan's commentary on Rocky 3 is the deepest and meaningful sharing I've heard from Ryan. Congrats!
Hahaha. I mean, love you two!
I have my moments
And we caught it Ryan, yes, Tree Pine is pretty! We also love her.
Reputation came out when people were still mad at Taylor for the whole Kanye/Kim phone debacle, on which she was later vindicated. Reputation is one of her best albums (and ironically what got me into her music) but was slept on when it came out. Lover isn't bad. It's just different. Tay was still trying to find her footing again, so it's kinda a transitional album before Folklore/Evermore and the re-releases brought her back to the top. It kinda makes me sad in retrospect that Reputation got snubbed. Some of her best work is on that album.
Lover is just now booming for some reason with cruel summer because of the eras tour. Also I think it was supposed to be released before rep but the drama happened so she made and released rep instead. Reputation doesn't have a Taylor's version yet!!! It's going to take off baby! I'm here for it! My fav album. I love everything of her of course..she doesn't have a bad song or album period....
Swifties are a force to be reckoned with - we're passionately loyal to our Queen 😂
On a side note, I found your channel through your TS reactions so 👍
Welcome aboard!
Yassss re: The bitches on The View, both past and present!!!
Great reaction. Thanks you 2. 😊😊
In behalf of swifties, THANK YOU SO MUCH❤️
I’m a twenty one pilots fanatic but I’m such a swiftie right now. I love this woman. I hope she and Tyler Joseph stay on alternating album release times and I’ll stay continually happy.
Shes working on Lover. Lover came out right before covid so the tour got cancelled and it was very overlooked but is swifties loved it. 😍 It gave us Cruel Summer! Reputation didnt do well at Grammys but the stadium tour was the highest grossing your in US ever as of 2018. She was really just hoping to do well because she was hoping the drama of the media was over, she thought everyone was still against her. Keep in mind she left the public view for 3 years before reputation came out and did no pr for it.
sooo excited for this
Yes yes yes YES!!! ♥️💪
This one is very important!
Lover is my favorite album! You have actually reacted to a handful of the songs from lover (the man, the archer, false god)
I think Taylor's fame, post her speaking up on politics, kinda makes it clear how her fans felt about her coming out against the hateful gop. She resonates with so many people.
Kim’s mom asked her to call Taylor and apologize and she refused. Also Kim used to be a fan of Taylor before she got with Kanye. I think Kim likes drama and either came up with the idea to make Taylor look bad or heard Kanye was planning something malicious to do to Taylor. Also in Kanye’s song famous music video Kanye had a replica of Taylor in bed with him and Kim.
Kanye is a horrible human and Kim has no integrity - as intriguing of a person as Kim is - she has no morality.
I have only seen snippets of this and didn’t realize they left out the whole Scooter Braun debacle, which was huge in her life. Love your reaction. If you’re not familiar with that event, you should Google it. It was very impactful and the reason she wrote My Tears Ricochet
Only 4 artists have won album of the year 3 times and she’s one of them and amongst greats
i don’t like the person who said lover is her worst album. it’s not even close it’s in my top five
The thing worth the grammy nomination is that it was about Reputation.
Reputation was her big big big come back after been heavily cancelled and after the whole internet turning against her.
Every tabloid and/or magazine said the Reputation tour would be a massive failure and that she would be playing for empty stadiums (it ended up accomplishing some big things, but I can't remember now).
So it REALLY was important to her to have that approval in that specific album. I'm sure she would be said if it was any other album, but not even getting nominated by the one album she kinda needed approval of was certainly big.
Also, about Lover.... It's not a bad album. It's basically what she just said in the beginning of the documentary. If she doesn't top everything she's done prior, it will be seen as a massive failure. That's why people think it's bad. Only because in their minds (and I'm not discussing what it is true or not) it isn't as good as the other things she had done before. Even her "worst" album did greater than a lot of recent albums from others big celebrities. Because it's not bad.