@@light-qe3gv and only DC is actually comparable to likes of Oliveira and volkonovski. Majority of Jones's opponents can't even be compared to Dustin.
Devils advocate maybe here but tbf Reyes next fight after Jones would have been Jan whether he beat Jones or not. So had he gotten the decision over Jones, would that really have affected the Jan fight (and hence would it really have changed the course of his career)?
Like Lucas brought up Dana and the ufc have loved building that market over in the UK and have the perfect star for it 😂 this stipe shit makes no sense at all
it's not about the money and PPVs that jon could generate (which is average for his name) but it's about the UFC always having in their history that jordan type of legend..(in the long run names like these can bring many fans even years after the retirement)and you can already see Dana's vision when he talks about jon he was saying he's the greatest athlete of all time lol..they're pretty much creating a legend.
I know, right? Even when we take out the things Dana doesn't care about, like fairness, and only think about the things he *does* care about, which is money, Aspinal is so ready and able to be his new cash cow, as you said. Aspinal is the real deal. Fans will love him, just like they love Poatan. Tom and Alex are similar, in that they are both very grounded and humble, but outstanding in the cage. Give Tom a chance to prove himself, Dana!
@@GTari-ob6bj What they’re doing now is damaging Jon’s legacy and turning the fans against him. He’s already the most tainted person in the sport between the cheating and the arrests. If they want a Jordan they’ve picked the wrong guy and now they’re ruining his legacy. What will beating Stipe really do for him other than add a number to his record? Whereas feed Jon to Aspinall and you can create the next biggest star. In the absence of Jon, Francis and Stipe the heavyweight division will be devoid of star power and they’re much better off getting ahead now
The fans are going to get so loud and so angry that it's unlikely that the Jon vs. Stipe fight happens by November 2024. By the time they are supposed to fight, the fans are going to demand that Jon fight Aspinall.
Lol yeah right. Jones is only getting hate bcus he’s doing what HE wants to do. Both of these guys have averaged a similar amount of fighter per year since they started in the UFC and that’s with Jon’s “weight increase”. So why wouldn’t he be PFP? He’s been beating top talent for a lot longer. Compare the last couple of #1 PFP fighters and you’ll see Islam’s resume is the weakest. Volk, Usman, Izzy, Jon. Islam has 1 defense against an actual LW (Dustin) and his activity since 2021 is due to him gunning for the title. Both of these guys are victims and benefactors of their divisions. Who are the Dustin, Justin, Conor, Charles of LHW or HW? At what point has LW not been cursed and allowed the current champion to fight who they need to?
The best part about all of this... Despite my extreme anger at the way that Tom Aspinall is being treated... I really think Jon Jones will probably never win another fight in the UFC. Not even against Stipe. Stipe hasn't been partying. Stipe will be 43, but Jones hasn't been in his prime for at least 6 years.
@@starseeddeluxe Bro honestly forget stipe man. Let the man rest in peace, he has had a really good run but now he is too old to fight specially someone who takes roids and uses eyepokes. But if we were trying to go low; I'd say a LW charles olivera finishes the guy lol probably by rear naked choke. Delusional Jones fans don't understand the skill gap between LW and LHWs when Jones or most of his career was fighting natural middleweights (back in the old ufc days). His fight against a fatty old short DC ended up in a no contest because of Jon, that is how desperate the guy is.
Dama has to stop this bullshit. Jones is not p4p in the world right know. Nobody cares about jones vs stipe. Stipe is 42 year old and forgotten. Please give jones the real heaviweight aspinal
Exactly. I am furious right now with Dana White and the UFC. Dana should step down as matchmaker, and focus on running the business, and doing the press conferences. The way he has ignored Tom Aspinall, and blocked him from facing Jon Jones, is completely unacceptable.
@@starseeddeluxe Interim champ gonna be defending the title, what a joke, they should strip Jones and move Aspinall Blaydes as a title unification bout as the main event of 303 since McNuggets tapped out of the event.
Dana white is just jealous with khabib team and nothing or he is just delusional Jon jones is p4p 1 fighter oh common it’s doesn’t makes any sense he never fought after cyril gane
Demetrious Johnson said Islam Makhachev is pound for pound number one fighter now and whatever Dana White said shouldn't be taken seriously and he never fought even a day in his life and don't know anything about it.
all I want is for Jon to get viscously booed (against Stipe) and clowned during fight week and during the fight no matter the outcome. I just want Jon to know how much we want him to go away at this point
Jon Jones is allowed to retire on top, many others have. That doesn’t mean the fans have to take it as something it isn’t… an easy low risk legacy padding fight
Let's just call it what it is tho.... Most of Jones' wins are just padded low risk legacy fights. Who has he fought with insane knockout power? He didn't fight Rumble, he didn't fight francis, he didn't fight Jan, and he now refuses to fight Tommy. I just don't get it. This whole "jones is just the goat there's no debate" is ridiculous. There's always a debate. Look at who he fought early in his championship reign... Be honest with yourself.
@@dantemolina4481If Reyes wasn’t an inaccurate sloppy puncher he could have beat Jones, that stuff dosent win fights which is why he lost. It’s been 4 years let it go
@@saljewsteinbergowitz Casual, Rampage ? Machida ? Evans ? Guss ? 22-2 Teixeira ? Undefeated 15-0 DC ? You acting like he has a Khabib resume where he fought unknown people who don’t even have a wiki page🤣 Jones was world champion at 24 & has never lost a fight before, only by DQ. Dana & many UFC Legends already recognize Jones as the GOAT
@@brandonmoyd2942 Keep doing backflips on it bro. Luckily for you Jones might be gay. Your love for him blinds you from the fact that, no matter how sloppy Reyes was Jones was sloppier. 3-2 reyes. Keep crying bro.
The reason why Dana loves Jones so much is because Jones never slapped Dana like he has slapped his wife. Same thing with Dana , he has slapped his wife but never slapped Jones. Which means , there's a fair chance that these two are gay. I am waiting for them to come out without hesitation 😊 after all , it's the pride month! ❤️
Cuz he had a shitty run outside the cage, he ain't getting any marketing offers when it's all done, so the only thing he's attached to is the "goat status" and he won't put it in risk losing in the very end of his career, but the fans aren't stupid, we clearly see Jones ducking Aspinall, and in case they've fought and Jones had lose he would still be considered the goat by the majority, that's what he don't gets, instead of showing some warrior stuff fighting the real deal he prefers to stain his legacy doing all of this BS. It is what it is...
Yeah, "more engagement than any sports team" - this is so clearly and objectively not true. He's in a bubble of his own delusion, if he really believes that.
@@digg_7 Trump is having that effect on him lol..im not American so i'm neither republican or democrat but what i've noticed about Trump this last decade is if he decides that something is true when it's clearly not he doubles down on it and from his confidence you'd start thinking if i wasn't so sure about you being so wrong i'd believe you just based on the way you say it..and of course people who use such 'technics' know this.
@@waynemcnabb979 He fought Gane in March 2023, between the first and second Islam and Volk fights. He was in the p4p list when Volk was #1, probably even before that when he decided to return.
These Russians are built different man. And i agree. I watched the fight with Reyes. I was yelling at my screen when Reyes lost that fight via decision. Complete robbery
The judges ruined dominick reyes career with that decision, and now Dana white is going to ruin Tom Aspinall career to hype up Jon roids Jones. It’s all about Jon.
Volk also fought at welter weight in his past, and Volk and Islam both weighed 178 pounds on fight night, exactly the same..When you weigh the same there is no advantage concerning weight, no matter which weight class you fight in..I don't think Jones is even the best heavy weight in the division..Let alone current P4P best. Promoters will promote..
Dana Red Calls Jake Paul a disgrace to fight a 58yr old man and yet glazes Jon Jones and hypes of Jones Stipe Match where stupe is 43 yr old and probably will get more CTE after this fight and also says the UFC makes best fight best and yet gives Jones stipe rather that the interim Champ Aspinal.
Lucas is hilarious. He's one of the greats. haha. Lucas is the only funny American MMA media person. Oh, and Jed Meshew is super funny. But the English across the pond have outstanding UFC content, and make the UFC great.
We'll never know how Reyes would have been as champ. Hard to say how that robbery affected him mentally. He's chinny either way tho, so ur probably right.
We figured it out boys, Dana offered gane the title shot bc if he beats aspinall he can say that gane was the real threat at HW and that proves Jon is the best in the weight class and best in the world to spite Ngannou
Lost against Reyes and Dos Santos, been drugged all his career, fought cormier while being doped and 10 years younger, ducked ngannou, now he's ducking aspinall, he's black... How can he be the greatest of all times? Daddy dana protects him like he does with McGregor, but at least McGregor made the UFC and MMA in general skyrocket worldwide in terms of revenues and popularity.
@@Waagghhboy I know, right? I basically agree with all of what the OP says, but what does "he's black" have to do with it? I don't get it. He's not fighting in dark clothing in a dimly lit room, where his skin color might possibly give him an edge.
Heavyweight is a fucking joke right now. I just want Derrick Lewis to go on some random run in his 40's and become champ just for the fucking meme of it at this point.
It's a shame too cause they are legit some of the strongest people on the planet in terms of bare hand combat due to their sheer weight and strength. Sure their skills aren't up to par with the lighter weight class but that's irrelevant when they are 60+ pound heavier than someone like Islam and knows how to throw a punch
The reason people become double champ is not necessarily that they move up to easier weight classes. The people who fight for double champ are often times long reigning champs who are like top 3 talent in the sport. It's not as if these are one defence people (aside from Conor)
or they know how to spot a specific champ who they think is very beatable by them. even GSP when he came back he came back a divison heavier against Bisping instead of prime woodley.
If the division above is the same or more skilled than the lower division, they would win 99% of time (other than perfect matchups/questionable champions) because of the strength and size advantage.
@@ItsameAlexsean o mally vs chito 1 performance?😂 BSD DIDN'T DO SHIT.Against poirer. Dustin was playing with him having fun. While sean was piecing chito before the injury.
I'll never consider the goat because of all the drug busts. Especially since how when he came back he got his ass kicked by Dominic Reyes. I can't consider him the goat as long as the "what would his career look like without the drugs" is still a question
Lucas I heard of you before I heard of mma guru or any of them. You are the fastest growing mma TH-camr and I just want you to know never listen to the haters people love your takes because you have fun with what you’re doing. You are schedule to be the biggest one too if you keep doing what you’re doing. Love the laughs and we appreciate you
Amazing video dude. Spot on. 1. "Jon Jones" is undefeated is total bullshit, you either go with official record which he has a loss on since he did something illegal and was disqualified by a dumb referee, or you take the unofficial route count that as a win but then obviously lost to Reyes so there's still a loss. Dude lost, period. 2. Jon Jones ducked Ngannou, he was talking about moving up to HW since 2013, was officially preparing to do his debut and for about 3 years while Ngannou was fighting he was magically not ready, until then once Ngannou leaves he's suddenly ready to come back and fights the dude who got wrestle fucked by the dangerous wrestler Ngannou, win or lose doesnt matter, and demolishes that dude very surprisingly (no one was surprised). And now wants to fight a geriatric Stipe who was last KOd stiff, can barely walk, hasnt fought in 3 years and is in his 40s. Genuinely what the fuck. Is this the HW legacy he wants to leave behind?
People move down all the time. Aldo from 145 to 135, Barboza from 155 to 145, Cannonier from HW to 185. Nobody has ever moved down to become a champion in a double champ fight tho
The fact that everyone thinks they know more about P4P rankings than Dana is unreal, he scouts every fighter we’ve ever seen in the ufc, he built this whole thing, this is one of the most unreal arguments I’ve ever seen. Jones moved up in weight and easily took the belt, Islam fought a featherweight and probably should have lost, Gaethje destroyed DP months ago easily, Islam hasn’t even cleared out his division
@@Dru2037 Volk is literally a better win than any Jones has ever had. Only DC is close. Olivera and Poirier are better than every single Jon win apart from DC. When will people realise LHW and HW are bad divisions with not much talent. Bantamweight to welterweight all have 70-90 guys in each division LHW and HW only have 30-40. They’re shallow bad divisions. By definition of pound for pound the champs of those divisions should be higher on any pfp list, they’ve faced more diverse and skilled competition on average.
Dana’s having a meltdown over the outrage for the Stipe gimmick fight/Ducking Tom. I love how loud the fans are over this bs, and it’s only getting louder by the week.
Honestly I don’t care that jones is fighting stipe they’re both old and will retire everyone knows aspinal is the real champ it’s all good I don’t need to see Tom vs Jon I know Jon will lose
Thats not how the sport works tho bro and you know that 100% all Jones fan will ever bitch about is how “Tom isnt the real champ” “Never beat Jones tho brah” “Jones wouldve smoked this dude” when Jones is ducking him while hes undisputed champ and Toms interim champ
@@areyalive18 He wouldn’t. Once Jones and Stipe fight Aspinall will be stripped of the interim belt. Jones will still be the Undisputed Champ until the next undisputed fight.
Reyes looked like he was on the verge of death, the last 2 rounds, if it was a fight to death Reyes would have died,just looked at the last two rounds Reyes shit his pants and the first 3 rounds were competitive
@@honorylealtad5596 there’s no more important rounds in a fight every round counts the same. And no round 4 was closer than round 3 which was clearly a Reyes round. If you disagree give an argument otherwise
@shaneg4388 I dont care if they officially count the same. When official score is a draw ( first 2 rounds for reyes and last 2 rounds for jones, and round 3 was close), you have to decide a winner, so you consider the "invisible rules" (last rounds are more important for ex) I know you can lil bro, it is not that hard to understand
@@honorylealtad5596 official score is not a draw tho what are you talking about. There are no 10-8 or 10-10 rounds here, there is a winner. You have zero idea how scoring works there are no “invisible rules” about last rounds counting more. And i would say first 3 rounds clearly Reyes, round 4 was close.
Jones didnt lose to Reyes . The fight was were judges picked accuracy over volume. I think it was close in some rounds. Jones did well in R4&5. but i do agree he should fight Aspinal. Currently islam has a better win streak, but jones has his time at LHW. I think his fight with Stipe is good too. Stipe is no joke
@@shaneg4388 watch it again Reyes gassed from r3 onwards strike counts were equal or Jones landed more by r5. In addition there was ground control by Jones from R3 onward. I think the fight was close but not a robbery and could be argued either way.
@@heartthrobheart6288 Jon had zero ground control in round 3 what are you talking about. Even in the rounds he got it Jon took Reyes down, did nothing and Reyes got back up almost immediately that counts for nothing. But everyone agrees Jon won round 5, that’s not relevant here it’s one round. Jon needs 3 rounds to win and i don’t see how anyone could possibly give him any of the first 3 rounds. Brutal robbery.
@@shaneg4388 significant strikes % jones 62% while Reyes 44% out of total significant strikes landed. Total strikes Jones 107 Reyes 119. Take downs Jones 2 out of 9 attempts, Reyes zero . Jones blocked many of Reyes strikes from R3 only Reye’s body kick were landing, and from R3 onward he looked tired and was only kicking while Jones picked the pace and stayed consistent. Again it was very close and Jones knows how to just do enough to grab the decision.
@@heartthrobheart6288 strike % is irrelevant why are you even bringing that up. Read the scoring criteria before trying to score a fight. Fights are scored by round, there was zero grappling in the first 3 rounds, Reyes landed both more strikes and the more impactful strikes in the first 3 rounds there’s no argument for Jon based on any stats
10:15 is not a hardcore take, it's a casual take, a hardcore knows the reason Jon ran through Gane, was because of Gane's non existent wrestling and grappling that an INJURED Francis exposed and it's the reason Francis won that fight even though he was compromised with the injury. Styles makes fights, Striker vs Striker, Striker (with no grappling and TDD) vs a wrestler
Just watched the Reyes Jones fight. Jones won that fight. Reyes was just getting walked down last 3 rounds. The last two rounds count the most and he was most inactive. Mistake in his corner told him he had the fight won. when it was still up for grabs. Judges got it right. Happy for Dominic though! glad he is back
Exactly. You don’t beat the champ by running away the last 3 rounds. These guys just can’t cope that he’s going to retire GOAT. They just can’t cope that their favourite fighter isn’t the GOAT. it’s quite embarrassing.
If stipe wins, are people gonna say it was a dumb matchup? Cause that would be a very legendary win and probably the best retirement fight of all time cause of jones having goat status. Stipe has better hands and could defend takedowns, so I’m pretty excited
Yes, because the returning linear champion should fight the interim champion. Even if Aspinall loses to Blaydes, it’s irrelevant. The interim could be being help by Strawberry Shortcake or by Superman, if there is an active interim champion who is willing and able to compete upon the return of the linear champion, they should always fight
I have never unsubscribed as much from a single channel as I have with this one. I keep giving him second, third, fourth etc chances and Lucas Tracy still manages to produce disappointing, garbage content. It’s just not entertaining 🤷🏿♂️
This is literally the same as Tyson fury fighting an out of prime washed up Derek Chisora instead of fighting Usyk for the undisputed heavyweight belt.
He is glazing Jones more than Flukas did BSD and Volk combined.
And that’s saying something
"flukas glazy" will never stop being funny to me
you can add kopylov to the mix and dana still clears
@@AllStarDFS Baldy needs to zip it up
Volk deserves to be glazed at least. 🐐
There’s no way Dana just repeats casual takes like “Islam beat a featherweight”, Jones has a shitload of middleweights on his resume
Don’t judge him. His getting old
facts
Half his fights are against mw or former mw
literally most of his so called "elite competition" are middleweights who have like 15 losses lmao
@@light-qe3gv and only DC is actually comparable to likes of Oliveira and volkonovski. Majority of Jones's opponents can't even be compared to Dustin.
that robbery literally ruined reyes career
then he would have been the worst champ in history if he's that mentally pathetic.
i think it's one of the most significant robberies in ufc history. it alters the whole alternative
Devils advocate maybe here but tbf Reyes next fight after Jones would have been Jan whether he beat Jones or not. So had he gotten the decision over Jones, would that really have affected the Jan fight (and hence would it really have changed the course of his career)?
Nah reyes was a stylistic nightmare for jones good frame, boxing , TDD and chinny which doesnt matter cause jones is pillowfisted
@@kdaneshyar1157yes everyone knows all your stats get 20% boost once you're champion
Dana could build Aspinall into a cash cow but would rather milk one last crappy pay check out of Jon Jones
Facts
Like Lucas brought up Dana and the ufc have loved building that market over in the UK and have the perfect star for it 😂 this stipe shit makes no sense at all
it's not about the money and PPVs that jon could generate (which is average for his name) but it's about the UFC always having in their history that jordan type of legend..(in the long run names like these can bring many fans even years after the retirement)and you can already see Dana's vision when he talks about jon he was saying he's the greatest athlete of all time lol..they're pretty much creating a legend.
I know, right? Even when we take out the things Dana doesn't care about, like fairness, and only think about the things he *does* care about, which is money, Aspinal is so ready and able to be his new cash cow, as you said. Aspinal is the real deal. Fans will love him, just like they love Poatan. Tom and Alex are similar, in that they are both very grounded and humble, but outstanding in the cage. Give Tom a chance to prove himself, Dana!
@@GTari-ob6bj What they’re doing now is damaging Jon’s legacy and turning the fans against him. He’s already the most tainted person in the sport between the cheating and the arrests. If they want a Jordan they’ve picked the wrong guy and now they’re ruining his legacy. What will beating Stipe really do for him other than add a number to his record? Whereas feed Jon to Aspinall and you can create the next biggest star. In the absence of Jon, Francis and Stipe the heavyweight division will be devoid of star power and they’re much better off getting ahead now
Jones im pregnant.. - Dana
More like Dana pregnant with Jon’s baby
That's what it says dummy
@user-yq5sl8wq7f lol I guess I can’t. I read it as “Jones is pregnant”.
Jones is the bottom though.
😂😂😂
Dana rly said that Jon is PFP #1 cause he said something scary to DC💀💀💀
Nah it's because he has German shepherd attack dogs, and likes to play with guns 😂
Right 😂😂😂
Thats what im saying bro, since when trying to mean mug someone 10 years ago makes you go up in the p4p, what is that level of babbling
I know, right? Jon's a bit of a sociopath. That doesn't make you current P4P.
As if Strickland doesn't say shit like that every other week 😂 Should he be p4p No1 now? 😂
I just love how absolutely every mma fan isn’t putting up with his nonsense !
The fans are going to get so loud and so angry that it's unlikely that the Jon vs. Stipe fight happens by November 2024. By the time they are supposed to fight, the fans are going to demand that Jon fight Aspinall.
@@starseeddeluxenah it's probably signed, the best thing we can hope for is the ppv flopping
It actually is awesome that the MMA community has been so vocal about all this crap. It's refreshing
Lol yeah right. Jones is only getting hate bcus he’s doing what HE wants to do.
Both of these guys have averaged a similar amount of fighter per year since they started in the UFC and that’s with Jon’s “weight increase”. So why wouldn’t he be PFP? He’s been beating top talent for a lot longer.
Compare the last couple of #1 PFP fighters and you’ll see Islam’s resume is the weakest. Volk, Usman, Izzy, Jon.
Islam has 1 defense against an actual LW (Dustin) and his activity since 2021 is due to him gunning for the title.
Both of these guys are victims and benefactors of their divisions.
Who are the Dustin, Justin, Conor, Charles of LHW or HW?
At what point has LW not been cursed and allowed the current champion to fight who they need to?
@@double0double0L yap
Ngannou punked the UFC & Dana has never gotten over it
Went on a whole ass tour just to cope about Ngannou in a round about way
Beautiful ain't it? @@slintisbased
where is Francis lmfao
@@alxbatistasitting on a pile of $30million
@@alxbatistaChilling with a net worth bigger than all the current champs combined (minus Jones maybe)
Dana is delusional with this take
A lot of his takes are tbh, after all hes a cocaine and gambling addict who likes slapping his wife up so why are we surprised that he loves Jones?
Cocaine is a hellava drug. Its not cheap
The best part about all of this... Despite my extreme anger at the way that Tom Aspinall is being treated... I really think Jon Jones will probably never win another fight in the UFC. Not even against Stipe. Stipe hasn't been partying. Stipe will be 43, but Jones hasn't been in his prime for at least 6 years.
@@starseeddeluxe Bro honestly forget stipe man. Let the man rest in peace, he has had a really good run but now he is too old to fight specially someone who takes roids and uses eyepokes. But if we were trying to go low; I'd say a LW charles olivera finishes the guy lol probably by rear naked choke. Delusional Jones fans don't understand the skill gap between LW and LHWs when Jones or most of his career was fighting natural middleweights (back in the old ufc days). His fight against a fatty old short DC ended up in a no contest because of Jon, that is how desperate the guy is.
I think he knows that what he says is wrong
But he wants to protect Jones as good as he can because it's Jones and he brings cash
Dama has to stop this bullshit. Jones is not p4p in the world right know. Nobody cares about jones vs stipe. Stipe is 42 year old and forgotten. Please give jones the real heaviweight aspinal
Exactly. I am furious right now with Dana White and the UFC. Dana should step down as matchmaker, and focus on running the business, and doing the press conferences. The way he has ignored Tom Aspinall, and blocked him from facing Jon Jones, is completely unacceptable.
@@starseeddeluxe Interim champ gonna be defending the title, what a joke, they should strip Jones and move Aspinall Blaydes as a title unification bout as the main event of 303 since McNuggets tapped out of the event.
If Jon is #1 p4p then beating Aspinall shouldn’t be a problem, right?
@@snake0911Exactly which is why he’s not even close to #1 pound for pound. Imo Aspinall absolutely bulldozes him rn
Dana white is just jealous with khabib team and nothing or he is just delusional Jon jones is p4p 1 fighter oh common it’s doesn’t makes any sense he never fought after cyril gane
I really care about the fight for the DISPUTED heavyweight belt.
*Undisputed
@@MM33003disputed*
@@MM33003lol he's making a joke
@@MM33003 *WOOSH*
The interim disputes it@@MM33003
Tracy is fucking hilarious. When he starts imitating
Imitation Tracy is the #1 mythical fighter
Fr tho Lucas is funny af 😂
“Turn on the lights, I got check under the bed I’m scared man” 😱 😂
He can't imitate to save his loife, he's a mad rat
Demetrious Johnson said Islam Makhachev is pound for pound number one fighter now and whatever Dana White said shouldn't be taken seriously and he never fought even a day in his life and don't know anything about it.
all I want is for Jon to get viscously booed (against Stipe) and clowned during fight week and during the fight no matter the outcome. I just want Jon to know how much we want him to go away at this point
Facts 😂 I really hope Stipe somehow knocks Jon out cold and than retires the only 3 time heavyweight champ in the ufc
jon would probably off himself if that happens
@@clkgtr12 His fragile ego can't handle that he'll be remembered as the guy who ducked Aspinall
@@daking8378we will collectively help him remember that
Problem is no1 shows up to his fights
Dana really lost his dignity here
It's been lost
It's been lost time and time again.
He lost his dignity when he smacked his wife
Jon Jones is allowed to retire on top, many others have. That doesn’t mean the fans have to take it as something it isn’t… an easy low risk legacy padding fight
Let's just call it what it is tho.... Most of Jones' wins are just padded low risk legacy fights. Who has he fought with insane knockout power? He didn't fight Rumble, he didn't fight francis, he didn't fight Jan, and he now refuses to fight Tommy. I just don't get it. This whole "jones is just the goat there's no debate" is ridiculous. There's always a debate. Look at who he fought early in his championship reign... Be honest with yourself.
@@saljewsteinbergowitz True, + He lost to reyes + hes on roids + he fights dirty...
@@dantemolina4481If Reyes wasn’t an inaccurate sloppy puncher he could have beat Jones, that stuff dosent win fights which is why he lost. It’s been 4 years let it go
@@saljewsteinbergowitz Casual, Rampage ? Machida ? Evans ? Guss ? 22-2 Teixeira ? Undefeated 15-0 DC ? You acting like he has a Khabib resume where he fought unknown people who don’t even have a wiki page🤣 Jones was world champion at 24 & has never lost a fight before, only by DQ. Dana & many UFC Legends already recognize Jones as the GOAT
@@brandonmoyd2942 Keep doing backflips on it bro. Luckily for you Jones might be gay. Your love for him blinds you from the fact that, no matter how sloppy Reyes was Jones was sloppier. 3-2 reyes. Keep crying bro.
The reason why Dana loves Jones so much is because Jones never slapped Dana like he has slapped his wife. Same thing with Dana , he has slapped his wife but never slapped Jones. Which means , there's a fair chance that these two are gay.
I am waiting for them to come out without hesitation 😊 after all , it's the pride month! ❤️
Mmaguru was on to something
Another Lucas Tracy classic right here. Seriously you're in your element when you're calling out Dana for his BULLSHIT
YEAAAAH!!!!!!! 😤😤😤
People forget how jones ducked Francis for three years
Right, and now Tom, even more obviously.
Cuz he had a shitty run outside the cage, he ain't getting any marketing offers when it's all done, so the only thing he's attached to is the "goat status" and he won't put it in risk losing in the very end of his career, but the fans aren't stupid, we clearly see Jones ducking Aspinall, and in case they've fought and Jones had lose he would still be considered the goat by the majority, that's what he don't gets, instead of showing some warrior stuff fighting the real deal he prefers to stain his legacy doing all of this BS. It is what it is...
I think Dana mistook pound for pound as £ for £
U spittin no Jones
I like what you did there!
Ha ha ha, that's a good one! I never thought of that. Yeah, Dana thinks with his wallet most of the time.
Lying about Powerslap's numbers too, the man is on mars
Yeah, "more engagement than any sports team" - this is so clearly and objectively not true. He's in a bubble of his own delusion, if he really believes that.
@@Terra_Lopez “what about soccer(football) teams?”, “I would say yes” Dana needs some oil for his brain
@@digg_7 Trump is having that effect on him lol..im not American so i'm neither republican or democrat but what i've noticed about Trump this last decade is if he decides that something is true when it's clearly not he doubles down on it and from his confidence you'd start thinking if i wasn't so sure about you being so wrong i'd believe you just based on the way you say it..and of course people who use such 'technics' know this.
Stipe wins via beating Jon with his cane
Jon joned wins by stipe suffering from cardiac arrest
That would excite Jon more than hurt him
@@mbekhan4667like the blob gaziev did?
Seriously tho I think Stipe could win by knockout. Stipe may just chad his way through Jones.. I'm sure Jones would love that.
It’s amazing how in a room with 4 grown men, no one speaks up and stop Dana from spewing nonsense.
Islam with the Comic Sans "Sorry"
isn't he fkn awesome
Promoter Dana ignoring failed drug tests is hilarious.
It's sad, is what it is.
I still can't believe that the last time Stipe fought he had the reebok shorts on 😭
And he got flatlined.
Dana white was not complaining when Volk was the #1 pfp
Jones wasn't in the P4P at that time.. he was out of it for 2 years.
@@waynemcnabb979 He fought Gane in March 2023, between the first and second Islam and Volk fights. He was in the p4p list when Volk was #1, probably even before that when he decided to return.
Its sad as fuck
JON JONES FIGHT ASPINALL NOW
Your cute little all caps comments won’t do anything.
@@MM33003jones will never step foot in a cage across Tom.
@@MM33003also tf is that response 🤣🏳️🌈
Jones will be 37 next month & way past his prime. Jones in his prime would finish Tom within 2 rounds
@@StricklandsBurner223he right tho
These Russians are built different man. And i agree. I watched the fight with Reyes. I was yelling at my screen when Reyes lost that fight via decision. Complete robbery
we have been blessed with a flukas glazy rant once again
Making Aspinall defend the interim belt is just insane. It's not even like the lightweight interim, it's the interim for the worst division 😂😂
The judges ruined dominick reyes career with that decision, and now Dana white is going to ruin Tom Aspinall career to hype up Jon roids Jones. It’s all about Jon.
Volk also fought at welter weight in his past, and Volk and Islam both weighed 178 pounds on fight night, exactly the same..When you weigh the same there is no advantage concerning weight, no matter which weight class you fight in..I don't think Jones is even the best heavy weight in the division..Let alone current P4P best. Promoters will promote..
Every person who saw the Ngannou fight knows that Ngannou absolutely dominated Gane, it was 3-2 for Nganou, the fans also see it that way
Nah gane 1 2 5
No one can argue with Lucas on this one. If you don't see this as it is, you simply just hate this guy.
Dana Red Calls Jake Paul a disgrace to fight a 58yr old man and yet glazes Jon Jones and hypes of Jones Stipe Match where stupe is 43 yr old and probably will get more CTE after this fight and also says the UFC makes best fight best and yet gives Jones stipe rather that the interim Champ Aspinal.
Totally agree! Tom is the man, and could be Dana's new cash cow, but Dana, who seems to care about making money above all, can't seem to see it.
you Americans crack me up man, the lucas tracy impressions are underrated af
Lucas is hilarious. He's one of the greats. haha. Lucas is the only funny American MMA media person. Oh, and Jed Meshew is super funny. But the English across the pond have outstanding UFC content, and make the UFC great.
His Irish accent is so on point haha
yeah man. he is good
The judges saved his legacy tbf if he lost to Reyes imagine how that terribly that loss would age.
We'll never know how Reyes would have been as champ. Hard to say how that robbery affected him mentally. He's chinny either way tho, so ur probably right.
10:38 That one killed me. "Someone turn the lights man, I need to check under my bed".
Dana sounds like a crazy politician.😂
all my homies hate bones
We figured it out boys, Dana offered gane the title shot bc if he beats aspinall he can say that gane was the real threat at HW and that proves Jon is the best in the weight class and best in the world to spite Ngannou
2d chess move
Congratulations on 90k, Lucas. Hopefully the streak continues with the next fight night
Lost against Reyes and Dos Santos, been drugged all his career, fought cormier while being doped and 10 years younger, ducked ngannou, now he's ducking aspinall, he's black... How can he be the greatest of all times? Daddy dana protects him like he does with McGregor, but at least McGregor made the UFC and MMA in general skyrocket worldwide in terms of revenues and popularity.
he's black😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You just slipped that " he's black " in there huh lol 😆
@@Waagghhboy I know, right? I basically agree with all of what the OP says, but what does "he's black" have to do with it? I don't get it. He's not fighting in dark clothing in a dimly lit room, where his skin color might possibly give him an edge.
bro is definitely a juve fan with that "he's black" 😂
You know you the 🐐 when they have high expectations for you at 37 years of age out of your prime🤣💀
Heavyweight is a fucking joke right now. I just want Derrick Lewis to go on some random run in his 40's and become champ just for the fucking meme of it at this point.
It's a shame too cause they are legit some of the strongest people on the planet in terms of bare hand combat due to their sheer weight and strength. Sure their skills aren't up to par with the lighter weight class but that's irrelevant when they are 60+ pound heavier than someone like Islam and knows how to throw a punch
Heavyweight and light heavyweight were always joke.
@@angrymaniac53seems that way historically tight? One big circus in some respects
The reason people become double champ is not necessarily that they move up to easier weight classes. The people who fight for double champ are often times long reigning champs who are like top 3 talent in the sport. It's not as if these are one defence people (aside from Conor)
or they know how to spot a specific champ who they think is very beatable by them. even GSP when he came back he came back a divison heavier against Bisping instead of prime woodley.
@@GTari-ob6bj there is no such thing as prime Woodley he always sucked lol. And I will hold that opinion of that dweeb until I die
If the division above is the same or more skilled than the lower division, they would win 99% of time (other than perfect matchups/questionable champions) because of the strength and size advantage.
He is the fool who sold Mighty Mouse.
That Flagrant podcast is so annoying. All of the dudes hosting it are fake as hell.
And they lliterally know nothing about anything.
Kiss arses one and all
Im like 5 minutes into the video and already loving the whole Dana White interpretations 😂😂😂🔥🔥🔥🤛🤛🤛
In past 27 months there is only 1 heavyweight championship fight since nganuo vs gane.
Dana talks about Jon the way Flukas talks about Kopylov and BSD lol pure delusion😂
BSD is great. The dustin fight was his sean'o malley vs chito vera 1 moment. He'll be back.
@@ItsameAlexsean o mally vs chito 1 performance?😂 BSD DIDN'T DO SHIT.Against poirer. Dustin was playing with him having fun. While sean was piecing chito before the injury.
@@buddybrick haha remember how you were talking about sean after the first chito fight. Now you're coping.
@buddybrick1176 sounds like you didnt watch the fight...
Peaches and cream ville is what jones calls a night in with the boyfriend
Excellent video. Beautifully articulated. Took the words out of my mouth. Subscribed!
Clickbait bro isn’t wearing the timberland pro in the video
You weird bruh
@@Knosferatu it’s a joke loser it’s okay if you didn’t get it
@@KnosferatuI’m wierd bruh
I'm a hard-core fan that's been watching since 2008. I'd be interested in it
That Jones Miocic card is going to be the most stacked card in history
If you’re not excited about the GOAT fighting the HW GOAT, regardless of their age, you’re not a real fight fan. Period.
Put Dana in a room full of casuals who wont question anything he says and take everything he says as the gospel
I love the work that you are putting these days in your channel. The editing is really clutch and you have improved a lot from a personal standpoint.
Usually the smaller fighter is more technical and skilled
Flukas glazy actually making sense this time
I think Lucas did a poll on whether we want to see jones and stipe or jones and aspinall
It’s wild that Dana thinks we care about Jones fighting Stipe…we should not buy that PPV to prove a point
I'll never consider the goat because of all the drug busts. Especially since how when he came back he got his ass kicked by Dominic Reyes. I can't consider him the goat as long as the "what would his career look like without the drugs" is still a question
Lucas I heard of you before I heard of mma guru or any of them. You are the fastest growing mma TH-camr and I just want you to know never listen to the haters people love your takes because you have fun with what you’re doing. You are schedule to be the biggest one too if you keep doing what you’re doing. Love the laughs and we appreciate you
Justice for Dominick Reyes 🙏
Amazing video dude. Spot on.
1. "Jon Jones" is undefeated is total bullshit, you either go with official record which he has a loss on since he did something illegal and was disqualified by a dumb referee, or you take the unofficial route count that as a win but then obviously lost to Reyes so there's still a loss. Dude lost, period.
2. Jon Jones ducked Ngannou, he was talking about moving up to HW since 2013, was officially preparing to do his debut and for about 3 years while Ngannou was fighting he was magically not ready, until then once Ngannou leaves he's suddenly ready to come back and fights the dude who got wrestle fucked by the dangerous wrestler Ngannou, win or lose doesnt matter, and demolishes that dude very surprisingly (no one was surprised). And now wants to fight a geriatric Stipe who was last KOd stiff, can barely walk, hasnt fought in 3 years and is in his 40s.
Genuinely what the fuck. Is this the HW legacy he wants to leave behind?
Tbh the reason why double champs take second belts moving up is because moving down becomes physically impossible
People move down all the time. Aldo from 145 to 135, Barboza from 155 to 145, Cannonier from HW to 185. Nobody has ever moved down to become a champion in a double champ fight tho
Jiri will be the first double champion going down a division
@clkgtr12 I can see this happen, since jiri is ain't that big at lw, and he is skilled enough for everyone at mw
@@lucastracymma8764 tj dillashaw went down for a second belt.
says who😂😂😂wtf ate u talking about
someone make a petition for tom!!
I can’t imagine watching this video not in 2x speed
The fact that everyone thinks they know more about P4P rankings than Dana is unreal, he scouts every fighter we’ve ever seen in the ufc, he built this whole thing, this is one of the most unreal arguments I’ve ever seen. Jones moved up in weight and easily took the belt, Islam fought a featherweight and probably should have lost, Gaethje destroyed DP months ago easily, Islam hasn’t even cleared out his division
It’s the “my favourite ufc fighter isn’t the GOAT” cope.
Flukas riding high off that mini
Documentary
Bro scrapped across the line to get above 60%
You gotta be the funniest mma TH-camr on the platform
No one can be the P4P no1 fighter forever. whether you like it or not. Islam is the P4P no 1 fighter right now.💪😎 👊
Beating Oliveira, Volk and Dustin doesn't put at the top of any list.
@@Dru2037 Volk is literally a better win than any Jones has ever had. Only DC is close. Olivera and Poirier are better than every single Jon win apart from DC. When will people realise LHW and HW are bad divisions with not much talent. Bantamweight to welterweight all have 70-90 guys in each division LHW and HW only have 30-40. They’re shallow bad divisions. By definition of pound for pound the champs of those divisions should be higher on any pfp list, they’ve faced more diverse and skilled competition on average.
Dana’s having a meltdown over the outrage for the Stipe gimmick fight/Ducking Tom. I love how loud the fans are over this bs, and it’s only getting louder by the week.
Honestly I don’t care that jones is fighting stipe they’re both old and will retire everyone knows aspinal is the real champ it’s all good I don’t need to see Tom vs Jon I know Jon will lose
You’re delusional if you think a win over Pavlovich makes Aspinall the real champ.
Thats not how the sport works tho bro and you know that 100% all Jones fan will ever bitch about is how “Tom isnt the real champ” “Never beat Jones tho brah” “Jones wouldve smoked this dude” when Jones is ducking him while hes undisputed champ and Toms interim champ
@@MM33003Aspinalls the champ
if jones retires after the fight tom will be promoted as undisputed champion
@@areyalive18 He wouldn’t. Once Jones and Stipe fight Aspinall will be stripped of the interim belt. Jones will still be the Undisputed Champ until the next undisputed fight.
The image of joe rogan popping up when he says woah 😂
Am I the only one who thinks Jones vs miocic feels like a bellator or PFL fight ?
Gonna hit 100k soon,gj lucas!
Well be praising Jones for the 460 days of no heavyweight title fights.
Im actually super hyped for the Jones/ Stipe card cause you know Danas gonna stack that mfer to the brim to make it look like people actually care
Reyes looked like he was on the verge of death, the last 2 rounds, if it was a fight to death Reyes would have died,just looked at the last two rounds Reyes shit his pants and the first 3 rounds were competitive
That’s not how fights are scored dude. You win 3 rounds that’s the fight
@shaneg4388 but round 3 was close little bro. And jones clearly won the most important rounds, like it or not
@@honorylealtad5596 there’s no more important rounds in a fight every round counts the same. And no round 4 was closer than round 3 which was clearly a Reyes round. If you disagree give an argument otherwise
@shaneg4388 I dont care if they officially count the same. When official score is a draw ( first 2 rounds for reyes and last 2 rounds for jones, and round 3 was close), you have to decide a winner, so you consider the "invisible rules" (last rounds are more important for ex)
I know you can lil bro, it is not that hard to understand
@@honorylealtad5596 official score is not a draw tho what are you talking about. There are no 10-8 or 10-10 rounds here, there is a winner. You have zero idea how scoring works there are no “invisible rules” about last rounds counting more. And i would say first 3 rounds clearly Reyes, round 4 was close.
No one is more over appreciated than jones.
Jon Jones is going to beat the breaks off Tom Aspinal . His resume speaks for itself.
What was Reyes’ resume when he whooped jon?
@@shaneg4388what's Reyes's resume today
Jon "the ducker" Jones? Or the eye poker? Steroid user?
@@shaneg4388 He beat Reyes mate get over it and Reyes lost his next three fights after Jones.
@@danielsimms4262 the face of the UFC before you started watching when McGregor came along
Jones didnt lose to Reyes . The fight was were judges picked accuracy over volume. I think it was close in some rounds. Jones did well in R4&5. but i do agree he should fight Aspinal. Currently islam has a better win streak, but jones has his time at LHW. I think his fight with Stipe is good too. Stipe is no joke
Accuracy isn’t even in the scoring criteria. Jon lost clear as day
@@shaneg4388 watch it again Reyes gassed from r3 onwards strike counts were equal or Jones landed more by r5. In addition there was ground control by Jones from R3 onward. I think the fight was close but not a robbery and could be argued either way.
@@heartthrobheart6288 Jon had zero ground control in round 3 what are you talking about. Even in the rounds he got it Jon took Reyes down, did nothing and Reyes got back up almost immediately that counts for nothing. But everyone agrees Jon won round 5, that’s not relevant here it’s one round. Jon needs 3 rounds to win and i don’t see how anyone could possibly give him any of the first 3 rounds. Brutal robbery.
@@shaneg4388 significant strikes % jones 62% while Reyes 44% out of total significant strikes landed. Total strikes Jones 107 Reyes 119. Take downs Jones 2 out of 9 attempts, Reyes zero . Jones blocked many of Reyes strikes from R3 only Reye’s body kick were landing, and from R3 onward he looked tired and was only kicking while Jones picked the pace and stayed consistent. Again it was very close and Jones knows how to just do enough to grab the decision.
@@heartthrobheart6288 strike % is irrelevant why are you even bringing that up. Read the scoring criteria before trying to score a fight. Fights are scored by round, there was zero grappling in the first 3 rounds, Reyes landed both more strikes and the more impactful strikes in the first 3 rounds there’s no argument for Jon based on any stats
My mental health getting worse when i hear someone hyping the jones vs stipe fight
Lucas you make a lot of sense. Good video.
10:15 is not a hardcore take, it's a casual take, a hardcore knows the reason Jon ran through Gane, was because of Gane's non existent wrestling and grappling that an INJURED Francis exposed and it's the reason Francis won that fight even though he was compromised with the injury. Styles makes fights, Striker vs Striker, Striker (with no grappling and TDD) vs a wrestler
Just watched the Reyes Jones fight. Jones won that fight. Reyes was just getting walked down last 3 rounds. The last two rounds count the most and he was most inactive. Mistake in his corner told him he had the fight won. when it was still up for grabs. Judges got it right. Happy for Dominic though! glad he is back
Exactly. You don’t beat the champ by running away the last 3 rounds. These guys just can’t cope that he’s going to retire GOAT. They just can’t cope that their favourite fighter isn’t the GOAT. it’s quite embarrassing.
based Lucas
"woah! Somebody turn on the lights! Check under the bed 🫣😰"
😂😂😂
If stipe wins, are people gonna say it was a dumb matchup? Cause that would be a very legendary win and probably the best retirement fight of all time cause of jones having goat status. Stipe has better hands and could defend takedowns, so I’m pretty excited
Coulda shoulda woulda. Truth is, Stipe is never going to win.
Yes it will still be a dumb matchup, it would just make Jon look worse than he already does..
Yes, because the returning linear champion should fight the interim champion. Even if Aspinall loses to Blaydes, it’s irrelevant. The interim could be being help by Strawberry Shortcake or by Superman, if there is an active interim champion who is willing and able to compete upon the return of the linear champion, they should always fight
even if he wins, who cares?
@@bbgsdrain obviously people over 25 who watched his career
Absolute W take. New subscriber.
(insert corny comment about meaty hooks or something)
If jon fights miocic and Stipe knocks jon out it may the greatest moment of "cherry picking gone wrong"
Lucas Tracy always yapping
❤❤❤Love it so much! Thank you so much Lucas!
I have never unsubscribed as much from a single channel as I have with this one. I keep giving him second, third, fourth etc chances and Lucas Tracy still manages to produce disappointing, garbage content. It’s just not entertaining 🤷🏿♂️
All this instead of just not watching
@@Totalnikkadeath It’s OK kiddo. I promise when Lucas sees your comment he won’t bang you. You can relax and stop trying
Just don’t watch then
@@danewa2008 I promise you kiddo, Lucas won’t see this and bang you. You can stop trying so hard 😂
This is literally the same as Tyson fury fighting an out of prime washed up Derek Chisora instead of fighting Usyk for the undisputed heavyweight belt.