To be fair though, a song about the idol worship of a baseball player is not exactly Punk. If that's what that song was supposed to be. I don't care if Sid Vicious was singing it it's just not Punk
@@charlesandrews2360 how come? I mean the overlap of sports and music goes far beyond the surface. Charboneau was a cult hero in Cleveland. I would get it if it was a song worshipping a widely recognized player, but as a former punk rocker (not that this gives me 100% authority) I think creating a song about a player such as Charboneau is punk af.
@@nomorefielders it's just an opinion. I was at disco demolition so I am familiar with the crossover music and sports. I was not a fan of that radio station but I was a die-hard White Sox fan happy to get into the game for $0.98.
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When I was in college I stepped out of my dorm room and walked right into Joe. Apparently he was friends with the guy living across from me. It was just after his rookie year and everyone at BGSU knew of him. I asked him to sign my yearbook from high school since that was the only thing I had . He signed it.. "Keep your grades up and your c*ck down ". I know injuries ruined his career but I still have an x rated yearbook memory from meeting him.
Joe gave me hitting lessons when I was a teenager. While I never made it as a baseball player, I had a lot of great memories with Joe and my father growing up.
@@zeldafreak1975 yes. he is in movie throughout in any sort of team gathering. his most proficient scene is a head first slide into third base near end of movie during playoffs or final game.
Amazing that you’d pick Joe Charboneau to feature. In 1980 I was a photojournalist with a suburban Cleveland newspaper and we were working on a big feature story on Joe. He generously agreed to meet me at his house where I photographed him with his 1950s hot rod. Although I was just a couple years younger than Charboneau, I was early in my career and felt a bit intimidated meeting the rising star. However, I remember him to be very welcoming and down to earth. I only spent 20 minutes with Joe, but I’ll never forget it.
To show you where, when and how I grew up: Born in Seattle in 1973, where I grew up. Japanese-American (showing HOW I grew up). What happened to Grady Sizemore? I thought that he was going to be a longtime star. And, speaking of a former Cleveland, I think that Ben (The Frenchman) Broussard got SCREWED in Seattle by Mike Hargrove. Made him a bit player. Broussard could have been a 20 HR player, if he got to play regularly. Not to hijack too much, but I don't feel like Mariners fans ever fully warmed up to Mike Hargrove (that crusty old grouch).
@@brianruyack7632 I remember the whole Super Joe thing but you wanna know what I remember more? Cory Snyders absolute cannon. He could throw the ball to fucking mars
@@unappealingundesirable2826 So the first thing you do is pathetically race-bait and then expect a response to the rest of your, otherwise appropriate, question. Pathetic.
As a life long Pittsburgh resident who is 59 years old, I was playing little, pony, and colt leagues in the 70's. I can't believe I don't remember this dude. Thank you so much for such an interesting and well made tribute to this man. I'm very impressed !
Where is Joe? He lives right down the street from me in Cleveland and we have a beer together every now and then. He is one of the kindest human beings you will ever meet. He has a heart the size of Municipal Stadium!!! If you would like to do a follow up I could talk to him. GO SUPER JOE!!!
I'd like to see that interview based off of this. Very intriguing topic, I'm sure he's a happy man despite the setbacks with injuries in baseball... also would want to hear his response to the folklore!
I was 7 years old in 1980 and it was the first year I really became aware of what was going in sports. I'll never forget . I always wondered what had happened to him
When I was growing up in Cupertino, my best friend's mom worked with Joe's mom at Kaiser Hospital in Santa Clara. We knew about Joe early on and I was able to get his autograph on a Spartanburg Phillies farm team envelope. Of course when he made it big I treasured it..... and still have it today.
I graduated Cupertino High School in 1981...James Harley...one of 4 Harleys that graduated CHS...Go Pioneers...delivered Papers to Steve Jobs...watched Kurt Rambis as a Junior High Schooler because my brother was class of 77...sister class of 1979...Kurt was larger than life...future Laker...Lived my first 17 1/2 years in Cupertino California. lived near Vallco Mall...I followed baseball and definitely looked forward to the box scores in the morning paper in those days. GREAT TIMES!
@@jameshar9592 Monta Vista 1980 grad. Also saw Rambis play Monta Vista many times. That area was a hotbed of basketball talent. Also saw Mark McNamara from Del Mar play many times during that same time. Did you know either of the Watt boys? Beth Falkowski? Jeanie Fitsimmons? All went to CHS and graduated the same year as you or close to it.
I lived in Cleveland when Joe appeared. Those were exciting times! Another amazing player was Ron Blomberg with the Yankees. When he came up to the plate, he looked like a giant playing a boys' game. He burned fast and brightly.
Ron Blomberg ("Boomer" to his longtime Yankee fans like me) was something special. My memory of him was of two things: the bat always looked like it was made of balsa wood when he swung, and his line drive homers would take only a second or two to go out. His muscular strength was his undoing as he kept pulling muscles over the years. I worked in sports radio and interviewed him some years ago; there was still that tinge of sadness to him, that "what might have been" vibe. I collect Yankee memorabilia, and every Blomberg piece is also signed "First AL DH". I know he wanted to be remembered for so much more.
Saw him play in Charleston. Great guy, just no pop left in his bat from the back injury . I have an autographed card and a picture with him during warmups one game. Chris Bando was also on that team
Great stuff! Really appreciate that you chose to celebrate a bolt of lightning rather than wax maudlin about the gloom that follows it. Thanks for the insights!
Thank for an interesting and well done video. The punk rock portion was the perfect device for tying the short but wonderful Charboneau era to the NE Ohio vibe of the early '80's. Kudos.
You tell a great story! I mean that in the best sort of way! You nailed the zeitgeist of that era and tied it to a baseball player. Love it! From now on Super Joe is SO PUNK! Well done!
@@sludge4125 He was banned from at least Johnny Malloys and is currently forbidden from holding baseball clinics on Ridgeville’s complexes because of multiple incidents.
Charbs was the hitting coach on a team I played for and he was every bit the character the stories make him out to be. But he was also fiercely loyal, the type of guy who always has your back, a hard worker willing to help the hitters whenever or wherever they needed, and someone who clearly cared about his players and the job he was there to do.
As a NYer in the 70s , I remember Joe C playing against my Yankees. Don't remember that shot into the left field upper deck, though. Interesting stuff on the Cleveland punk scene. We had Lou Reed , & CBGB,s did t know about the music scene in Cleveland. Nice job with this ..⚡
cleveland had The Waitresses "I know what boys like" Screamin Jay Hawkins I put a spell on you"The Moonglows ,The O Jays, Levert,The Dazz Band,.recently Kid Cudi < Machine gun Kelly, Bone thugz n Harmony,The James Gang,.Nine inch nails, Mushroom head,The black keyes,Tracy Chapman,Eric Carmen & the raspberries,Frankie Yankovi,Chrissie Hynde,Bull Moose Jackson..sooooo many national & international groups..........itz not by accident that the rock & roll hall of fame is there
i would have been glad to have only been a one hit wonder. I live in STL and have been a Cards fan with memories being old enough to follow them starting in 1960 and yet I remember Joe Charboneau with the Cleveland Indians, and they were in the American League. Good baseball story.
** Cleveland didn't go bankrupt, it went into default. The reason is that powerful financial institutions in Cleveland, who held the City's loans, tried to blackmail the City into selling its public energy utility. Cleveland Mayor Dennis Kucinich said, we're not selling. This is the only time in American history that a city government so pissed off its loan holders that the loans were called in, causing a default. Kucinich has since been vindicated as Cleveland residents have saved millions on their energy bills.
Thanks for the correction. I’m definitely not an expert in local government so when I saw that the city defaulted on it’s loans, I assumed that could be categorized under bankruptcy. Thank you for the clarification.
This man is correct...Cleveland needed its heroes back then and Kucinich was the youngest mayor elected to a major US city and was considered a hero for the working man back then, Super Joe was a big deal that year, he was in left field the night Large Len Barker pitched his perfect game.
Thanks for an VERY entertaining video. I grew up in nearby Akron and the military sent me to Alaska after high school. The first visit back to Akron was with a new bride and Super Joe treated us to a big night of offense in old Municipal Stadium. The fireworks after his homerun is a great memory and a good way to start a marriage.
Me watching the part about punk rock: I really don't understand how any of this has anything to do with a baseball player. Me watching the Joe Charbaneu song: Holy shit I stand corrected.
I always remember this guy because Dave Stapleton was runner-up for RoY. Stapleton had a really nice season replacing an injured Jerry Remy. Stapleton would have won the award a lot of years. Stapleton got one standard divination worse every season for the rest of his career but if he had been on the field in game six of the 86 series my teenage years would not have been ruined
I DO remember Joe. We ALL thought he was gonna be the shit after his first year. Ah, well. That's life. " Where have you gone Joe Charbenou, our nation turns it's lonely eyes to you".
I know of him because It was my 1st full year of collecting sports cards, and being the 1980 rookie of the year, his card was one to have in 1981. Back in those days, his card value went from 10 cents to 2 cents in a year 😂
On June 9th 1980 Charboneau hit a 3 run homer against the Yankees during a day game and at night sat in as a guest drummer for The Pagans. He then won MLB ROOKIE OF THE YEAR and a Grammy. Only Roger Maris was able to accomplish something similar when he hit 61 homers in 1961 and sing backup on "Runaway" by Del Shannon.
Loved going downtown, a ten-minute bus ride, to see The Tribe in '80, paying a buck to go into the bleachers and, with Municipal Stadium being so empty, by the 4th inning me and my buddies would be sitting behind The Tribe's dugout. Loved the sound of his bat when Joe would hit ropes into the left field stands. Always will remember that sound.
The closest thing to the next Reggie Jackson that I ever saw was Josh Hamilton, who unfortunately battled drug and alcohol abuse for many years. I saw Joe Charbonneau play when he first came up. Good player but I didn't think he was in the elite class of players......the only thing I remember about him was that he could drink beer from his nose.
I watched Hamilton as a rookie with the Reds and it was obvious in a second that he had rare gifts . Anyone with baseball sense could see it. That guy was a once in a lifetime talent
Little known fact, Joe Charboneau had a teammate friend named Kevin rhomberg, who was from Dubuque Iowa which is where I am also from. Kevin rhomberg was another example of a great hitter. Cleveland I think mishandled his career also. There's always too much pressure to give players of lesser ability south-of-the-border the first shots
I saw Harmon Killebrew hit a home run there in 1970. Joe DiMaggio also hit a home run there according to old timers. This unobjective, unimportant, non neutral video is written by homers, aka Cleveland Indians fans.
I remember Len Barker's perfect game, but he kinda flamed out too. As a Tigers fan Indians always seemed to never be able to fully put it together in the 80's.
Frank Howard did indeed hit a tremendous homerun off Whitey Ford in Game 4 of the '63 Series. It happened, however, not at Yankee Stadium, but at Dodger Stadium. The first two games of that series were played in New York, while the final two were held in Los Angeles.
Yeah, even near the end of his one good season, he was already losing it. But it was a great story for 2/3rds of the season, and he evidently was a great guy.
There was a movie called ship of fools that had a scene where a ballplayer relates how after an amazing rookie season it got out he couldn't hit a specific pitch and all he ever saw after that was that pitch. I always thought that was the deal here
Correct. The thing to remember is that visiting players did not get near as many chances each year as the home town player. And Mantle hit left handed most of the time.
There's been lots of guys like this. If you're from Pittsburgh, like me, you probably remember Mike Diaz. Kevin Maas, the Mormon slugger, was gone from the Yankees in a heartbeat. Randy Milligan and Larry Sheets from the Orioles, baseball is a funny game and how guys careers disintegrate a fascinating subject...
It's true. I'm not sure why, but baseball, more than other sports, seems to have more guys who have one hot year early on, then just flame out and 5 years later you forget about them until someone reminds you.
Watched the game on TV where Joe hit the ball into the upper deck in left field at Yankee Stadium. Guys would hit the ball into the upper deck in right field all the time but you never saw it in left. It was truly monumental. I was a 15 year old Yankees fan but couldn't help but to become of fan of the quirky young Cleveland outfielder.
I can’t remember the year, around 1989 or close to that, I was visiting in Hawaii. Inadvertently went to a minor league game, forget the name of the team, you guys can look it up. Sure enough, Joe came to bat and clubbed a homerun
@@WillieDuitt1 “I'll be a pharaoh soon Rule from some golden tomb Things will be different then The sun will rise from here Then I'll be ten feet tall And you'll be nothing at all”
Wow! That's a name from my younger days. Thanks for memories. I spent a few months in Cleveland in the early '70s. The city with the river that caught fire. lol Ah, Cleveland. I don't miss that city at all.
I remember Charbonneau we called him "Joltin Joe" as in DiMaggio. I also remember game #4 of the series. Ford vs Koufax. Howard's shot was the only earned run off Ford that day. He lost the game 2-1 on Pepitone's error. The Dodger's swept the series. It was a bitter defeat for us Bronx guys.
Howard's home run was in Dodger Stadium, not Yankee Stadium. Howard never hit a home run in the upper deck in left. A rumor popped up in 1968 that Howard hit a ball out of Yankee Stadium in the rain off Mel Stottlemyre. Just as Stott threw his pitch, a downpour started. Howard hit it foul toward the upper deck on the third base side. Blinding rains came and the ground crew put up a tarp on the field. After a long delay, play resumed. The ball wasn't found because a fan took off with it. He possibly left for good as it was a wet miserable cool day in May. It's no fun getting soaked and then having to sit in a wet seat in 50 degree weather.
The Charboneau story was so puzzling. Pitchers who have a meteoric rise and fall are a dime a dozen. Jim Bouton, Mark Fidrych, JR Richard, Denny McClain, David Clyde, Herb Score etc. But everyday players are usually immune to that.
Boutin pitched in the major leagues for 15 years. McClain was a three-time All-Star and won the Cy Young twice Andy was the American League MVP in 1968. J R Richard its in the Houston Astros Hall of Fame. Mark fidrych was the American League Rookie of the Year in 1976 and got injured in 1977. The only one of those pictures you named who was a bust was David Clyde. And everyone knows what happened to Herb Score in his third season after going 36-19 with an era of 2.69 and over 500 strikeouts in his first two seasons.
And speaking of Herb Score, my father always said the funniest thing he ever heard was two guys talking about the injury that happened to Herb Score. 20 years after the injury, at work he overheard one guy telling another guy about the incident. He told him the batter hit a line drive so hard that when it hit the picture in the eye socket the ball stuck there. And the other guy asked him, "Is it still there?"
@@charlesandrews2360 whoa whoa whoa… Super disingenuous reply. Boutin, for example won 39 games over a two year span then proceeded to go 16-36 over the rest of his career. He also didn’t play a single game between 1971 and 1978, and when he did return in 1978 he pitched 26 innings total and was out of the league again. He also most certainly didn’t play for 15 years. McLain was mercurial, and fantastic from 1965-1969. Led the league in wins in ‘68 and ‘69, however by 1971 he led the league in losses. He went 55-15 in 1968-1969. Then went 17-34 from 1970-1972. He went from leading the league in wins to playing for 4 different franchises and out of the league in a matter of 3 years. Like you said, we all know what happened to the Bird. No one outside of Houston knows who JR Richard is. And you yourself didn’t want to defend Score or Clyde. So…I think her original post stands up quite nicely. I’m not really sure why anyone would feel the need to try and negate a perfectly reasonable and pertinent comment. Come on, all this shit is easily found on the internet.
I met Frank Howard at an A’s game in 1979 when he was a coach with the Milwaukee Brewers. A giant of a man,my hand disappeared in his when he shook it. As an eight-year-old kid I was in awe of his size. But,he couldn’t have been nicer!
Spent the summers as a kid in Canton Ohio, remember the season, song and player well. Always wondered what happened to him as a player. Cool video, thanks
Already in the first minute there's a serious mistake made. Frank Howard of the Dodgers reached the upper left field deck in game 4 of the 1963 World Series in Dodger Stadium, not Yankee Stadium. You can even see that he's got his home Dodger uniform on. So Joe was only the second to do it after Foxx, assuming we can believe anything after this error.
Mickey Mantle did it several times in his career and Frank Howar did not hit a ball in the LF Upper deck. He did hit a 460' Double in the 1963 WS. Mantle also hit a double off the 457' fence. The Mick hit 3 HRS over the 461' CF, as did Moose Skowron
I remember him very well, I was a kid and I been a Yankees fan since 1976 I definitely remember "Joltin" Joe Charboneu hit BOMBS!! He just faded away, I always remembered him though.Him and Mark the "Bird" Fidrych Were Super stars that popped up and faded away.
Though I don't consider myself anything close to Joe talent-wise, some similarities surprised me. I exploded my sophomore year in college, batting in the .480s with power, and scouts took an interest in me. But like Joe, a back injury in the spring of 1980 changed my life forever. I never recovered from that injury, and the scouts disappeared overnight, leaving behind a lifetime of what might have beens.
Congrats on your career Mark. I was a JUCO All-american and top 50 pick but know several players like you who were robbed bu injury. I was hitting over .612 after my first month but ended the season .454 due to a hamstring issue, but was still blessed to live a little bit of the dream I had since seeing Frank Robinson play in Baltimore as a kid the day he hit the only ball ever to leave Memorial Stadium on Mother's Day 1966. Cherish the memories of your greatness. Many will dream and still never do as well as we did. I think Joe could have possible been like Adam Dunn but not Mike Trout!
@@keithshowell6688 Thanks for the kind words, Keith. After reading about all your success, I can assure you I was never in your talent class. But you're right about living that dream for as long as we did. For that one year, I felt like I was capable of anything when I came to bat. So glad you name dropped Frank Robinson, one of the greatest players in baseball history. I grew up in NJ, and we were all NY Yankees fans. As a young boy I remember those incredible Baltimore teams of the 1960s and early 1970s breaking my heart countless times. Those teams were so good, the O's roster looked like an all-star team! It took a while, but I grew to admire those incredible Orioles teams, but especially Frank Robinson. MVP in both leagues, Triple Crown winner, World Series champion, first Black manager, Hall of Fame career. A baseball resume without equal.
@@markb20 O's so true about Frank. I actually gave Frank an autographed picture of me the first time I met him and we laughed out loud but he kept me by his side for 1 1/2hrs during an exhibition of his career. Remember him robbing Roy White when the wall was low at Yankee stadium and Paul Blair assisting him out of the seats. Great memories! Pistol Pete Maravich actually gave me the best advice which changed my baseball career for the better!
@@keithshowell6688 Keith- I had to laugh when I read about your time with Frank R., you must have had a lot of self confidence in yourself to do that! And meeting Pistol Pete must have been amazing; I'd like to know what advice he gave you. Loved that reference about the old Yankee Stadium dimensions and Robinson robbing Roy White over the low fence and Blair helping him out. I have my own memories of White himself, along with Tom Tresh making similar catches and needing to be helped out of the seats (can you imagine any ballpark like that today? Or the monuments the Yankees had in "Death Valley"?). You brought up Paul Blair... wow. He had to be one of the fastest, smoothest outfielders in history, with the softest hands when he caught the ball. Of the great dynasties of the late 1960s through the 1970s (The Big Red Machine of Cincinnati, Finley's Oakland A's, the Yanks of the late 1970s- I'd pick the Orioles as the best. It seemed they had an All-Star at every position. I've worked in sports radio for years and one of my favorite trivia questions to ask was "The 1971 Baltimore Orioles had one of the greatest teams in history with four 20-game winners- name them". Everyone gets Jim Palmer, most get Mike Cuellar, many get Dave McNally, but NO ONE gets Pat Dobson! I've collected sports memorabilia for years, and some of my most cherished items are signed by those great Baltimore O's teams- especially Frank Robinson. Man, you were lucky to grow up a young fan of those teams Keith!
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In 1992 Brewers Finished 92-70 and was end of an Era but we had 2 of top 4 ROY vote getters including winner SS Pat Listache and P Cal Eldred. Brewers long time legends Rogin Yount, Paul Molitor and Jimmy Gantner were all calling it quits in Milwaukee after playing 15 years together. Brewers to there credit were stocking up on young talent to get ready for this day. With the 2 aformentioned ROY candidates. Brewers also had promising youngers in Power Hitter Greg Vaughn (26), Catcher BJ Surhoff (27), Darryl Hamilton 41 SB .298 BA (27) Power Hitter John Jaha (26), P Jim Navarro 17-11 3.33 ERA (25) and RP Doug Henry 29 SV (28) AFTER 1992 SEASON BREWERS WENT 14 SEASONS STRAIGHT WITHOUT A WINNING SEASON!!! When the Brewers refused/couldn't pay Paul Molitor to stay in Milwaukee after the '92 Season I was so upset with the Franchise and MLB I never returned as a fan. Sure I watched McGuire and Sosa HR Derby Season and Bonds HR Steroids Circus seasons but as a Fan I was finished. I'm still a Die hard Bucks and Packers fan but MLB is a rigged operations for the Large Market Teams and I just don't care. I attended dozens of games at Milwaukee County Stadium to root on the Brew Crew and loved every minute of it but I saw post season after '92 that MLB is for suckers. I love this channel because it brings back great memories but whenever this channel talks about what happened recently I zone out.
This was such a blast to work on! The intersection between my 2 favorite subjects is never something that won’t interest me.
To be fair though, a song about the idol worship of a baseball player is not exactly Punk. If that's what that song was supposed to be. I don't care if Sid Vicious was singing it it's just not Punk
@@charlesandrews2360 how come? I mean the overlap of sports and music goes far beyond the surface. Charboneau was a cult hero in Cleveland. I would get it if it was a song worshipping a widely recognized player, but as a former punk rocker (not that this gives me 100% authority) I think creating a song about a player such as Charboneau is punk af.
@@nomorefielders it's just an opinion.
I was at disco demolition so I am familiar with the crossover music and sports. I was not a fan of that radio station but I was a die-hard White Sox fan happy to get into the game for $0.98.
@@charlesandrews2360 oh that’s awesome! I totally get it though. Everyone has their own perspective
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When I was in college I stepped out of my dorm room and walked right into Joe. Apparently he was friends with the guy living across from me. It was just after his rookie year and everyone at BGSU knew of him. I asked him to sign my yearbook from high school since that was the only thing I had . He signed it.. "Keep your grades up and your c*ck down ". I know injuries ruined his career but I still have an x rated yearbook memory from meeting him.
Great story
So cool. 😎
Great memory!
Well, as they say: "No great cocktail story ever started over a salad."
Why can’t you do both… lol
What college West Valley
Joe gave me hitting lessons when I was a teenager. While I never made it as a baseball player, I had a lot of great memories with Joe and my father growing up.
well since nobody mentioned it- Joe C. was also an extra in " The Natural" with Robert Redford
Yeah in some ways his life paralleled the natural
Not surprising, since the movie was filmed mainly at War Memorial Stadium in Buffalo while Charboneau was a Bison.
Nice add on,cheers .
Happen to know which scene?
@@zeldafreak1975 yes. he is in movie throughout in any sort of team gathering. his most proficient scene is a head first slide into third base near end of movie during playoffs or final game.
Amazing that you’d pick Joe Charboneau to feature. In 1980 I was a photojournalist with a suburban Cleveland newspaper and we were working on a big feature story on Joe. He generously agreed to meet me at his house where I photographed him with his 1950s hot rod. Although I was just a couple years younger than Charboneau, I was early in my career and felt a bit intimidated meeting the rising star. However, I remember him to be very welcoming and down to earth. I only spent 20 minutes with Joe, but I’ll never forget it.
Was a teammate of Joe's on a 1975 summer league team, he's a sweetheart.
I remember him
Did he looked like he had lots of baseball talent.
A sweetheart? 😉
@@user-co7fb6qe5w yep
I never thought someone would mention Dead Boys and the Velvet Underground in a baseball video, but here we are. And I love it.
Yeah the internet has some pretty crazy videos
Me too!
And it was totally pointless.
@@marswillrule2431 someone’s mommy clearly didn’t give them a kiss on the forehead today. You wanna talk about it, champ?
Baseball Historian has returned, and this time he even brought a friend!
Nicely done! I've met Joe a few times over the last couple of years. He's a blast. Just a really great guy.
I feel like he has some awesome stories to tell
Where's he at these days? Not California right ?
I remember this guy's rookie season; it really looked like Cleveland had a longtime star on their hands.
Remember the Sports Illustrated curse? Joe and Cory Snyder on the cover. I was a Tribe fan in Royals country then.
To show you where, when and how I grew up: Born in Seattle in 1973, where I grew up. Japanese-American (showing HOW I grew up). What happened to Grady Sizemore? I thought that he was going to be a longtime star. And, speaking of a former Cleveland, I think that Ben (The Frenchman) Broussard got SCREWED in Seattle by Mike Hargrove. Made him a bit player. Broussard could have been a 20 HR player, if he got to play regularly. Not to hijack too much, but I don't feel like Mariners fans ever fully warmed up to Mike Hargrove (that crusty old grouch).
@@brianruyack7632 I remember the whole Super Joe thing but you wanna know what I remember more? Cory Snyders absolute cannon. He could throw the ball to fucking mars
@@unappealingundesirable2826 Grady Sizemore had a lot of injuries that curtailed his career.
@@unappealingundesirable2826 So the first thing you do is pathetically race-bait and then expect a response to the rest of your, otherwise appropriate, question. Pathetic.
As a life long Pittsburgh resident who is 59 years old, I was playing little, pony, and colt leagues in the 70's. I can't believe I don't remember this dude. Thank you so much for such an interesting and well made tribute to this man. I'm very impressed !
Where is Joe? He lives right down the street from me in Cleveland and we have a beer together every now and then. He is one of the kindest human beings you will ever meet. He has a heart the size of Municipal Stadium!!! If you would like to do a follow up I could talk to him. GO SUPER JOE!!!
I'd like to see that interview based off of this. Very intriguing topic, I'm sure he's a happy man despite the setbacks with injuries in baseball... also would want to hear his response to the folklore!
He is beyond humble. Such a nice guy!!!
I was 7 years old in 1980 and it was the first year I really became aware of what was going in sports. I'll never forget . I always wondered what had happened to him
When I was growing up in Cupertino, my best friend's mom worked with Joe's mom at Kaiser Hospital in Santa Clara. We knew about Joe early on and I was able to get his autograph on a Spartanburg Phillies farm team envelope. Of course when he made it big I treasured it..... and still have it today.
Great Story here. Thanks for Sharing it.
Do you know what high school he went to? I went to Cupertino but lived in Santa Clara okay
@@PlumbNutz He went to Buchser HS
I graduated Cupertino High School in 1981...James Harley...one of 4 Harleys that graduated CHS...Go Pioneers...delivered Papers to Steve Jobs...watched Kurt Rambis as a Junior High Schooler because my brother was class of 77...sister class of 1979...Kurt was larger than life...future Laker...Lived my first 17 1/2 years in Cupertino California. lived near Vallco Mall...I followed baseball and definitely looked forward to the box scores in the morning paper in those days. GREAT TIMES!
@@jameshar9592 Monta Vista 1980 grad. Also saw Rambis play Monta Vista many times. That area was a hotbed of basketball talent. Also saw Mark McNamara from Del Mar play many times during that same time. Did you know either of the Watt boys? Beth Falkowski? Jeanie Fitsimmons? All went to CHS and graduated the same year as you or close to it.
Unbelievable work, man! Never heard of Charbonneau before... What a personna! Thank you, long live baseball! Cheers 🍻🍻
Ya..I remember this dude. He was the next big character in baseball after Mark the Bird Fidrych had just flamed out.
Mark was a great guy
Clint Hurdle was another failure
Fidrych tore up his shoulder and arm.
Once again.. a masterpiece!! Bravo for Super Joe. Baseball Historian.. you're damn good at this.
Super Joe Charbonneau - what could have been, yet he made history.
First time seeing this channel. This guy is amazing !
I lived in Cleveland when Joe appeared. Those were exciting times! Another amazing player was Ron Blomberg with the Yankees. When he came up to the plate, he looked like a giant playing a boys' game. He burned fast and brightly.
True. Ronnie Blomberg's recoil was almost as violent as his swing.
I had heard that Blomberg would pig out on hot dogs before a game. True? I don't know.
First designated hitter in majors, Ron Blomberg.
an injured back will do that to a guy
Ron Blomberg ("Boomer" to his longtime Yankee fans like me) was something special. My memory of him was of two things: the bat always looked like it was made of balsa wood when he swung, and his line drive homers would take only a second or two to go out. His muscular strength was his undoing as he kept pulling muscles over the years. I worked in sports radio and interviewed him some years ago; there was still that tinge of sadness to him, that "what might have been" vibe. I collect Yankee memorabilia, and every Blomberg piece is also signed "First AL DH". I know he wanted to be remembered for so much more.
Saw him play in Charleston. Great guy, just no pop left in his bat from the back injury . I have an autographed card and a picture with him during warmups one game. Chris Bando was also on that team
Riverdogs game?
@@ajlewis765 Charleston, WV not SC.
Great stuff! Really appreciate that you chose to celebrate a bolt of lightning rather than wax maudlin about the gloom that follows it. Thanks for the insights!
Thank for an interesting and well done video. The punk rock portion was the perfect device for tying the short but wonderful Charboneau era to the NE Ohio vibe of the early '80's. Kudos.
Yeah, nice piece. I was installing commercial telephone systems in downtown Cleveland in 1980. Fun times. Remember Funky Poodle?
@@JoeP3300 Hmm...Funky Poodle doesn't ring a bell with me but I do remember Ghoulardi.
At 12 yrs old in 1980, I remember him well. Especially, growing up 30 miles from Cleveland. Thanks for this!!!
Duuude another slapper of a vid. LOVED the diversion into the history of Cleveland punk. Very cool and fun story!
Thank you so much for watching!
I can tell they pulled ideas from this footage for the first Major League film. Lol
You tell a great story! I mean that in the best sort of way! You nailed the zeitgeist of that era and tied it to a baseball player. Love it! From now on Super Joe is SO PUNK! Well done!
As a fellow Clevelander, I really appreciate this documentary
Glad we could provide some quality entertainment
He's now a chiropractor in North Ridgeville, Ohio with a penchant for getting in bar fights.
he has to be a senior by now...lol
Well, you got the North Ridgeville part right. 🙄
@@sludge4125 He was banned from at least Johnny Malloys and is currently forbidden from holding baseball clinics on Ridgeville’s complexes because of multiple incidents.
A Chiropractor has to drum up business somehow, lol just kidding. Joltin Joe Charboneau, I remember him well. Best Wishes to him.
@@dodgerblue7381 Super Joe. I wonder if he can still drink beer through his nose.
Met him many times at Tribe functions in the Cleveland area, such a class guy and still in phenomenal shape well past his 50's!
Charbs was the hitting coach on a team I played for and he was every bit the character the stories make him out to be. But he was also fiercely loyal, the type of guy who always has your back, a hard worker willing to help the hitters whenever or wherever they needed, and someone who clearly cared about his players and the job he was there to do.
That’s so awesome.
Those are great stories!
What team?
As a NYer in the 70s , I remember Joe C playing against my Yankees. Don't remember that shot into the left field upper deck, though.
Interesting stuff on the Cleveland punk scene.
We had Lou Reed , & CBGB,s did t know about the music scene in Cleveland.
Nice job with this ..⚡
cleveland had The Waitresses "I know what boys like" Screamin Jay Hawkins I put a spell on you"The Moonglows ,The O Jays, Levert,The Dazz Band,.recently Kid Cudi < Machine gun Kelly, Bone thugz n Harmony,The James Gang,.Nine inch nails, Mushroom head,The black keyes,Tracy Chapman,Eric Carmen & the raspberries,Frankie Yankovi,Chrissie Hynde,Bull Moose Jackson..sooooo many national & international groups..........itz not by accident that the rock & roll hall of fame is there
Thank you for the documentary...I met Joe at Cleveland Stadium for an autograph...he signed me one and was a very nice guy about it.
i would have been glad to have only been a one hit wonder. I live in STL and have been a Cards fan with memories being old enough to follow them starting in 1960 and yet I remember Joe Charboneau with the Cleveland Indians, and they were in the American League. Good baseball story.
** Cleveland didn't go bankrupt, it went into default.
The reason is that powerful financial institutions in Cleveland, who held the City's loans, tried to blackmail the City into selling its public energy utility.
Cleveland Mayor Dennis Kucinich said, we're not selling.
This is the only time in American history that a city government so pissed off its loan holders that the loans were called in, causing a default.
Kucinich has since been vindicated as Cleveland residents have saved millions on their energy bills.
Thanks for the correction. I’m definitely not an expert in local government so when I saw that the city defaulted on it’s loans, I assumed that could be categorized under bankruptcy. Thank you for the clarification.
This man is correct...Cleveland needed its heroes back then and Kucinich was the youngest mayor elected to a major US city and was considered a hero for the working man back then, Super Joe was a big deal that year, he was in left field the night Large Len Barker pitched his perfect game.
Thanks for an VERY entertaining video. I grew up in nearby Akron and the military sent me to Alaska after high school. The first visit back to Akron was with a new bride and Super Joe treated us to a big night of offense in old Municipal Stadium. The fireworks after his homerun is a great memory and a good way to start a marriage.
I remember Charboneau quite well. No one ever thought he would be the "next" Reggie Jackson. Absurd.
Me watching the part about punk rock: I really don't understand how any of this has anything to do with a baseball player.
Me watching the Joe Charbaneu song: Holy shit I stand corrected.
Rock N Roll brother
It’s clear that a 24 minute video was produced as an excuse to play and share that song. I respect that. Well done.
It’s actually not even funny how accurate this statement is.
Wow. I was just a kid and living in Cleveland. I remembered loving Super Joe and Mark the Bird Fidrich.
At one point years ago the Dead Boys were my favorite band, always loved the VU. Thanks for that unexpected treat of a video. Go Joe
Great documentary. I remember Joe as a 17 year collecting baseball cards n going to games n Joe was the talk of the town.
I always remember this guy because Dave Stapleton was runner-up for RoY. Stapleton had a really nice season replacing an injured Jerry Remy. Stapleton would have won the award a lot of years. Stapleton got one standard divination worse every season for the rest of his career but if he had been on the field in game six of the 86 series my teenage years would not have been ruined
I think you meant ”one standard deviation,” but I'm going to take your novel phrase, "one standard divination,” and run with it.
@@yankeegonesouth4973 haha. There was divine about Stapleton's career after his rookie year
No the missing Hall guy is Cesar Cedeno.
I immediately went and bought his card for $1, just like Perimeter Pascual. More videos on quirky players like those 2 guys please.
2 thumbs up for this suggestion
I doing the same thing......
Are you talking about Pascual Perez?
Saw Joe’s MLB debut in person at Angel Stadium in the 1980 season opener. Even saw him homer in the game.
I DO remember Joe. We ALL thought he was gonna be the shit after his first year. Ah, well. That's life. " Where have you gone Joe Charbenou, our nation turns it's lonely eyes to you".
Brings a tear to my eye
@@nomorefielders , c'mon.If you were following baseball then, you WERE rooting for Joe.
Woo,woo,woo.!
@NotPearlRoblox , that's good. Tell him to enjoy his senior years. He was a very good player. :)
Punk rock and baseball my two favorite things in life. Great video.
Hell yeah!
That was so much fun to watch! Thank you!
I know of him because It was my 1st full year of collecting sports cards, and being the 1980 rookie of the year, his card was one to have in 1981. Back in those days, his card value went from 10 cents to 2 cents in a year 😂
A very well produced and interesting mini-doc @Baseball Historian. Thank you for bringing Super Joe's comet of a career into close view.
On June 9th 1980 Charboneau hit a 3 run homer against the Yankees during a day game and at night sat in as a guest drummer for The Pagans. He then won MLB ROOKIE OF THE YEAR and a Grammy. Only Roger Maris was able to accomplish something similar when he hit 61 homers in 1961 and sing backup on "Runaway" by Del Shannon.
Loved going downtown, a ten-minute bus ride, to see The Tribe in '80, paying a buck to go into the bleachers and, with Municipal Stadium being so empty, by the 4th inning me and my buddies would be sitting behind The Tribe's dugout. Loved the sound of his bat when Joe would hit ropes into the left field stands. Always will remember that sound.
He batted .289, 23 HR, and 87 RBI in 131 games in his rookie season. Pretty good.
The closest thing to the next Reggie Jackson that I ever saw was Josh Hamilton, who unfortunately battled drug and alcohol abuse for many years. I saw Joe Charbonneau play when he first came up. Good player but I didn't think he was in the elite class of players......the only thing I remember about him was that he could drink beer from his nose.
I watched Hamilton as a rookie with the Reds and it was obvious in a second that he had rare gifts . Anyone with baseball sense could see it. That guy was a once in a lifetime talent
Josh Hamilton had one of the strangest careers in baseball history.
Great story but the reason that Ruth and Gherig never did it was because they were lefthanded and majority of Mantles ABs were also lefthanded
Mantle did it several times batting RH. Casey Stengel talked about it.
This was just a flat out great baseball video. Well done.
Little known fact, Joe Charboneau had a teammate friend named Kevin rhomberg, who was from Dubuque Iowa which is where I am also from. Kevin rhomberg was another example of a great hitter. Cleveland I think mishandled his career also. There's always too much pressure to give players of lesser ability south-of-the-border the first shots
Idea for next video: I think a video on the 3 Atlanta Aces would be great
^^^^
Always been my favorite pitching staff. I'm assuming you mean Maddox, Gavin and Smoltz.
Being that he’s my grandpa,I love hearing these stories.
The older Yankees couldn’t hit that spot because it was in left field and they batted left.
I saw Harmon Killebrew hit a home run there in 1970. Joe DiMaggio also hit a home run there according to old timers. This unobjective, unimportant, non neutral video is written by homers, aka Cleveland Indians fans.
Like Joe DiMaggio?
Great video! Never heard of this player until now, and I always like learning about new players!
12:32 "Teen-Age Coke Dance"... sounds like Cleveland to me ;)
Also Pere Ubu frickin rocks
AYYYYE MY GUY
I believe a back injury shortened his career. I met him last year at the gym I work out at. Super nice guy.
Well, I never expected to hear Rocket From The Tombs referenced in a BH video. Love it!
Mickey Mantle hit the Left Field upper deck several times. Casey Stengel spoke of this as well as others. Check your Baseball History.
I believe that was in batting practice
@@pinrod1 No it was in a game. Witnesses said in BP Mickey hit 2 balls out of Yankee Stadium in RF and 1 out over the LF bleachers.
I remember him on the cover of "Baseball Digest". He was one of the few bright spots on those horrible early 1980s Indian teams with Andre Thornton.
I lived for that baseball digest . I was a kid then and thought I was gonna be on the cover one day. Didnt quite make it!
I think Rick Manning was on a cover back then.
I remember Len Barker's perfect game, but he kinda flamed out too. As a Tigers fan Indians always seemed to never be able to fully put it together in the 80's.
@@mattpeckham667 that high leg kick!
Frank Howard did indeed hit a tremendous homerun off Whitey Ford in Game 4 of the '63 Series. It happened, however, not at Yankee Stadium, but at Dodger Stadium. The first two games of that series were played in New York, while the final two were held in Los Angeles.
I remember seeing Joe's HR at Yankee Stadium on live TV. I get to know his cousins later in life. He was a quite the sensation for a bit.
Yeah, even near the end of his one good season, he was already losing it.
But it was a great story for 2/3rds of the season, and he evidently was a great guy.
There was a movie called ship of fools that had a scene where a ballplayer relates how after an amazing rookie season it got out he couldn't hit a specific pitch and all he ever saw after that was that pitch. I always thought that was the deal here
Sounds like Bill Grabarkewitz
I’m not even 4 minutes in and you already got my sub. This channel is quality, I can just tell!
“mantle Gehrig and Ruth could not” YEAH 2/3 were lefties and the other batted lefty 70% of at bats.. hard to hit a ball 500 ft to Left field
Mantle did it several times batting RH and hit 3 HRS over the 461' CF. Batting LH the Mick nearly cleared the RF roof twice.
I wonder where he got his stats. Had to be word of mouth. No one kept track of this stuff back then
@@jerrykibbe6363 Yep.
@@vicdavy1 I saw Mantle hit a ball up there in the early 60s, and I saw Harmon Killebrew hit a up there, too.
Correct. The thing to remember is that visiting players did not get near as many chances each year as the home town player. And Mantle hit left handed most of the time.
Awesome video, and you taught me something, I never heard of this guy before.
Punk rock and baseball, great stuff!
Literally my 2 motivators
@@nomorefielders agreed
There's been lots of guys like this. If you're from Pittsburgh, like me, you probably remember Mike Diaz. Kevin Maas, the Mormon slugger, was gone from the Yankees in a heartbeat. Randy Milligan and Larry Sheets from the Orioles, baseball is a funny game and how guys careers disintegrate a fascinating subject...
It's true. I'm not sure why, but baseball, more than other sports, seems to have more guys who have one hot year early on, then just flame out and 5 years later you forget about them until someone reminds you.
Baseball is a game of failure.
A one-hit wonder, but MAN, what a hit that was!
He compiled more than just one base hit though 😂
I was a Royals fan in 1980. Super Joe was the talk of the Royals nation in August, 1980. I remember Super Joe.
I’m pretty sure Royals nation was talking about Brett on the cusp of hitting nearly .400 that season 🤷🏼♂️
Watched the game on TV where Joe hit the ball into the upper deck in left field at Yankee Stadium. Guys would hit the ball into the upper deck in right field all the time but you never saw it in left. It was truly monumental.
I was a 15 year old Yankees fan but couldn't help but to become of fan of the quirky young Cleveland outfielder.
As a former minor league player, I knew exactly who this video title was referring to. The Legend of Joe Charboneau.
Okay, now I need a Joe Charb rookie card
Same
Yes 1981 Topps #13
Get the 1981 kelloggs 3D card
Dave Kingman was another phenom. And a guy named Jim Fuller who had a cup of coffee in the majors may have hit the longest home runs ever.
Remember that one game where Kingman and Schmidt hit like 8 homers each?
just found this in my suggested. nicely done. subbed.
I can’t remember the year, around 1989 or close to that, I was visiting in Hawaii. Inadvertently went to a minor league game, forget the name of the team, you guys can look it up. Sure enough, Joe came to bat and clubbed a homerun
Dead boys "young, loud, and snotty" isn't just one of the best punk albums, one of the greatest rock albums,, period!
YES. 100% agreed friend
Sonic Reducer.....best song of the punk era.
@@WillieDuitt1 “I'll be a pharaoh soon
Rule from some golden tomb
Things will be different then
The sun will rise from here
Then I'll be ten feet tall
And you'll be nothing at all”
Punk sucks.
Wow! That's a name from my younger days. Thanks for memories. I spent a few months in Cleveland in the early '70s. The city with the river that caught fire. lol Ah, Cleveland. I don't miss that city at all.
I seem to remember seeing Joe Charboneau's name listed in the credits of the movie "The Natural".
I remember Charbonneau we called him "Joltin Joe" as in DiMaggio. I also remember game #4 of the series. Ford vs Koufax. Howard's shot was the only earned run off Ford that day. He lost the game 2-1 on Pepitone's error. The Dodger's swept the series. It was a bitter defeat for us Bronx guys.
Howard's home run was in Dodger Stadium, not Yankee Stadium. Howard never hit a home run in the upper deck in left. A rumor popped up in 1968 that Howard hit a ball out of Yankee Stadium in the rain off Mel Stottlemyre. Just as Stott threw his pitch, a downpour started. Howard hit it foul toward the upper deck on the third base side. Blinding rains came and the ground crew put up a tarp on the field. After a long delay, play resumed. The ball wasn't found because a fan took off with it. He possibly left for good as it was a wet miserable cool day in May. It's no fun getting soaked and then having to sit in a wet seat in 50 degree weather.
The Charboneau story was so puzzling. Pitchers who have a meteoric rise and fall are a dime a dozen. Jim Bouton, Mark Fidrych, JR Richard, Denny McClain, David Clyde, Herb Score etc. But everyday players are usually immune to that.
Boutin pitched in the major leagues for 15 years. McClain was a three-time All-Star and won the Cy Young twice Andy was the American League MVP in 1968. J R Richard its in the Houston Astros Hall of Fame. Mark fidrych was the American League Rookie of the Year in 1976 and got injured in 1977. The only one of those pictures you named who was a bust was David Clyde.
And everyone knows what happened to Herb Score in his third season after going 36-19 with an era of 2.69 and over 500 strikeouts in his first two seasons.
And speaking of Herb Score, my father always said the funniest thing he ever heard was two guys talking about the injury that happened to Herb Score.
20 years after the injury, at work he overheard one guy telling another guy about the incident. He told him the batter hit a line drive so hard that when it hit the picture in the eye socket the ball stuck there. And the other guy asked him,
"Is it still there?"
@@charlesandrews2360 I didn't say they were 'busts' they just disappeared real quick.
@@charlesandrews2360 whoa whoa whoa…
Super disingenuous reply.
Boutin, for example won 39 games over a two year span then proceeded to go 16-36 over the rest of his career. He also didn’t play a single game between 1971 and 1978, and when he did return in 1978 he pitched 26 innings total and was out of the league again.
He also most certainly didn’t play for 15 years.
McLain was mercurial, and fantastic from 1965-1969. Led the league in wins in ‘68 and ‘69, however by 1971 he led the league in losses.
He went 55-15 in 1968-1969.
Then went 17-34 from 1970-1972.
He went from leading the league in wins to playing for 4 different franchises and out of the league in a matter of 3 years.
Like you said, we all know what happened to the Bird. No one outside of Houston knows who JR Richard is. And you yourself didn’t want to defend Score or Clyde.
So…I think her original post stands up quite nicely. I’m not really sure why anyone would feel the need to try and negate a perfectly reasonable and pertinent comment.
Come on, all this shit is easily found on the internet.
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Shut up. The average length career for a major league pitcher is under 4 years.
Not everyone can make the Hall of Fame.
"Angels Ace Dave Frost"....lmao
I met Frank Howard at an A’s game in 1979 when he was a coach with the Milwaukee Brewers. A giant of a man,my hand disappeared in his when he shook it. As an eight-year-old kid I was in awe of his size. But,he couldn’t have been nicer!
Remember his Nestle's Quik commercial? It's on YT...
Spent the summers as a kid in Canton Ohio, remember the season, song and player well. Always wondered what happened to him as a player. Cool video, thanks
I wasn't alive to see this kid.. but man do I remember him from reading countless books. What coulda been!
Already in the first minute there's a serious mistake made. Frank Howard of the Dodgers reached the upper left field deck in game 4 of the 1963 World Series in Dodger Stadium, not Yankee Stadium. You can even see that he's got his home Dodger uniform on. So Joe was only the second to do it after Foxx, assuming we can believe anything after this error.
geez tom relax.
Mickey Mantle did it several times in his career and Frank Howar did not hit a ball in the LF Upper deck. He did hit a 460' Double in the 1963 WS. Mantle also hit a double off the 457' fence. The Mick hit 3 HRS over the 461' CF, as did Moose Skowron
@@theplayersclub1126 facts is facts
@@vicdavy1 The Mick probably won more barroom brawls than Charboneau.
I played against Joe C in Buffalo when he was playing with the Del Sassers. Nice guy, shook my hand after the game.
Well done.
Thank you for amazing stories like this!
Super huge fan of your content. Very entertaining and well put together
I love a good baseball/punk rock mashup.
Yeah you don’t see too many of those these days
I remember him very well, I was a kid and I been a Yankees fan since 1976 I definitely remember "Joltin" Joe Charboneu hit BOMBS!! He just faded away, I always remembered him though.Him and Mark the "Bird" Fidrych Were Super stars that popped up and faded away.
Though I don't consider myself anything close to Joe talent-wise, some similarities surprised me. I exploded my sophomore year in college, batting in the .480s with power, and scouts took an interest in me. But like Joe, a back injury in the spring of 1980 changed my life forever. I never recovered from that injury, and the scouts disappeared overnight, leaving behind a lifetime of what might have beens.
Congrats on your career Mark. I was a JUCO All-american and top 50 pick but know several players like you who were robbed bu injury. I was hitting over .612 after my first month but ended the season .454 due to a hamstring issue, but was still blessed to live a little bit of the dream I had since seeing Frank Robinson play in Baltimore as a kid the day he hit the only ball ever to leave Memorial Stadium on Mother's Day 1966. Cherish the memories of your greatness. Many will dream and still never do as well as we did. I think Joe could have possible been like Adam Dunn but not Mike Trout!
@@keithshowell6688 Thanks for the kind words, Keith. After reading about all your success, I can assure you I was never in your talent class.
But you're right about living that dream for as long as we did. For that one year, I felt like I was capable of anything when I came to bat.
So glad you name dropped Frank Robinson, one of the greatest players in baseball history. I grew up in NJ, and we were all NY Yankees fans. As a young boy I remember those incredible Baltimore teams of the 1960s and early 1970s breaking my heart countless times. Those teams were so good, the O's roster looked like an all-star team! It took a while, but I grew to admire those incredible Orioles teams, but especially Frank Robinson. MVP in both leagues, Triple Crown winner, World Series champion, first Black manager, Hall of Fame career. A baseball resume without equal.
@@markb20 O's so true about Frank. I actually gave Frank an autographed picture of me the first time I met him and we laughed out loud but he kept me by his side for 1 1/2hrs during an exhibition of his career. Remember him robbing Roy White when the wall was low at Yankee stadium and Paul Blair assisting him out of the seats. Great memories! Pistol Pete Maravich actually gave me the best advice which changed my baseball career for the better!
@@keithshowell6688 Keith- I had to laugh when I read about your time with Frank R., you must have had a lot of self confidence in yourself to do that! And meeting Pistol Pete must have been amazing; I'd like to know what advice he gave you.
Loved that reference about the old Yankee Stadium dimensions and Robinson robbing Roy White over the low fence and Blair helping him out. I have my own memories of White himself, along with Tom Tresh making similar catches and needing to be helped out of the seats (can you imagine any ballpark like that today? Or the monuments the Yankees had in "Death Valley"?).
You brought up Paul Blair... wow. He had to be one of the fastest, smoothest outfielders in history, with the softest hands when he caught the ball. Of the great dynasties of the late 1960s through the 1970s (The Big Red Machine of Cincinnati, Finley's Oakland A's, the Yanks of the late 1970s- I'd pick the Orioles as the best. It seemed they had an All-Star at every position.
I've worked in sports radio for years and one of my favorite trivia questions to ask was "The 1971 Baltimore Orioles had one of the greatest teams in history with four 20-game winners- name them". Everyone gets Jim Palmer, most get Mike Cuellar, many get Dave McNally, but NO ONE gets Pat Dobson!
I've collected sports memorabilia for years, and some of my most cherished items are signed by those great Baltimore O's teams- especially Frank Robinson. Man, you were lucky to grow up a young fan of those teams Keith!
That Cleveland "song" is aces.
and you might even see this guy...yeaaaaaah!!!
Lol
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In 1992 Brewers Finished 92-70 and was end of an Era but we had 2 of top 4 ROY vote getters including winner SS Pat Listache and P Cal Eldred. Brewers long time legends Rogin Yount, Paul Molitor and Jimmy Gantner were all calling it quits in Milwaukee after playing 15 years together. Brewers to there credit were stocking up on young talent to get ready for this day. With the 2 aformentioned ROY candidates. Brewers also had promising youngers in Power Hitter Greg Vaughn (26), Catcher BJ Surhoff (27), Darryl Hamilton 41 SB .298 BA (27) Power Hitter John Jaha (26), P Jim Navarro 17-11 3.33 ERA (25) and RP Doug Henry 29 SV (28)
AFTER 1992 SEASON BREWERS WENT 14 SEASONS STRAIGHT WITHOUT A WINNING SEASON!!! When the Brewers refused/couldn't pay Paul Molitor to stay in Milwaukee after the '92 Season I was so upset with the Franchise and MLB I never returned as a fan. Sure I watched McGuire and Sosa HR Derby Season and Bonds HR Steroids Circus seasons but as a Fan I was finished. I'm still a Die hard Bucks and Packers fan but MLB is a rigged operations for the Large Market Teams and I just don't care. I attended dozens of games at Milwaukee County Stadium to root on the Brew Crew and loved every minute of it but I saw post season after '92 that MLB is for suckers.
I love this channel because it brings back great memories but whenever this channel talks about what happened recently I zone out.
Joe Charboneau is one of those players that have you think about what could have been had he not hurt his back.