Cart, you're wrong. Sorry my guy, Purdue's scheme has changed and the way they are playing is totally different. Cart doesn't know what he's watching. Greg is right. Cart's gonna do the "they don't have a rim protector" thing probably, but the reality is the design is that they are forcing drives into traffic, 3 or 4 guys, and forcing you to make cross court passes to open shooters. Some teams will be able to do it more than others... but it's not quite "pack line" but it's awfully close. They've totally flipped how they play defensively post-holidays, not just the players on the court (though Cox and Furst are both plus-defenders), and Smith is your roving destroyer getting steals off the ball.
Braden was not even thinking about guarding TJ Mamba like go ahead bro shoot that 3 lol. Same defense MSU is gonna see. Go ahead any player on MSU, try and make a three.
@@dancurran6779 Exactly. It's the same lazy analysis that lead all of Twitter to decide that Edey wasn't a good rim protector because he didn't block a lot of shots... even though he was specifically asked not to try so he'd stay out of foul trouble. "Purdue gives up open looks." Yeah. To your crappy shooters. On purpose.
I can’t tell if you’re trolling. Braden is very good defensive IQ off ball and puts himself in great positions to get steals but can get exposed 1 on 1 often
@@stevesmith1811 I wouldn’t go as far as to say he should be on the all defense team, but I honestly think the narrative of him getting exposed defensively extremely exaggerated. There are a select few 6’6 guards that could give him issues just based on size and the ability to shoot over him. As a tiny guard you’re going to get that at times, but there really aren’t that many of those guards in this conference outside of Kasparas and Dylan Harper.
With regard to CJ Cox and his offensive output, I feel you guys are not being consistent. It's not like he missed a bunch of shots. You previously said Purdue shouldn't "run any action" for him, because you'd rather Braden or Fletch take those shots. That's what's happening! When the defense is such that he's left open he's taking and generally making shots. But he's not the focus of the offense, so I don't know how you can say it's dumb to run plays for him because you want Smith and Loyer taking the shots, and then when that happens you complain that he's not scoring. Not sure what you want him to do.
Purdue’s defensive efficiency has gotten so much better the last month. I get that the competition hasn’t been elite, but they also looked bad defensively against less than elite competition early in the season.
Bittle had TKR’s number defensively but if he can keep making free throws I’m ok with a less than efficient performance from the field. In conference play Purdue is #1 at forcing turnovers and 2nd on the defensive glass. Braden is leading the conference in steals. They’ve changed their identity and it’s working.
I did. TKR played like trash, when he had his back to the basket except one time. All the other times something bad happened and he was shooting very close to the basket. It was so bad that when he caught the ball with his back to the basket, I would scream a the TV. Now to his credit, he did pass the ball a couple of times. I will also say that it was clear that the key players for Purdue were tired and played tired.
TKR is 59% FG and 42.9% 3pt this year. I get the frustration with his lack of rim protection, TO's at times, and very average FT shooting, but getting worked up over 1 game where his FG was down is a bit much.
This is fast food basketball commentary. I know you understand the game in general but these are comments from guys examining box scores. You cannot watch Purdue play 6 weeks ago and then watch them today and not give them credit for improving. They’ve bought in. They’re playing aggressively. They’re hitting their assignments and most importantly they’re not letting more athletic players bully them. I don’t expect you to break down film of every game but lately your assessment of Purdue has been super academic. Entertaining but not very quality. Fast food.
Final comment, I don’t want to hear anything from Greg about “rosie comparisons” on CJ Cox when I heard him comp LJ Cason to Damien Lillard earlier this season lol 😂
There are some stylistic similarities between Carsen and Cox, and I think people get carried away with that. I don't expect Cox to ever be as good as Carsen was as a scorer consistently, but he's a far better defender and rebounder. The rest kind of remains to be seen. For now, Cox is giving them what they need - a strong perimeter defender on the ball.
@ I think that’s exactly the comp people are making. Just acknowledging the stylistic similarities. Not saying he will ever be the volume scorer Carsen was. It’s a unique situation where you’re even given the green light as a player to shoot as much as Carsen did to average 24ppg. Imo it’s purely a stylistic comp.
I hear you on CJ Cox- but from a score and team offensive efficiency standpoint, can you not have a good game shooting 0/0? 0/4 is a bad game, 1/8 is a horrible game. The shots CJ isnt taking are going to someone else. I'd rather see some middle ground, have to at least be a threat... but I don't hate 0/0 entirely, this isnt a Gabe Cupps thing.
As for CJ vs CE, they are night and day: CJ is a defender first with a take what they give you shot... CE was/is a shooter first middle and last. He had to be hidden on defense. They are clearly different players and should be viewed as such.
Love to all of this. G with the reverse jinx attempt for himself, Cart openly unstoppable on his own frustration with TKR not knowing he's about to be national player of the week. And the schedule shade. You guys are great.
Bittle affected a ton of shots. Even in drop coverage he was able to make Braden uncomfortable trying to shoot over him in the midrange at times. Didn’t realize how good of a rim protector/defender Bittle is until watching this game.
Good description by Greg of Mick Cronin at 25:15 as the leader of UCLA's "Band of Misfits". Can we get the graphics department at Sleepers Media to prepare a cartoon version of Cronin as the "Pirate Captain" (with his well-known red mustache and beard) to go with Cronin's bald head? Yeah, that graphic for upcoming UCLA preview and recap videos would complete this metaphor.
TEAM defense has improved. There is no individual lockdown defender and/or rim protector. Looking forward to seeing the team continue to grow and get better.
For sure Purdue has to be able to win at Michigan State to win the conference this year due to the schedule. Purdue's schedule is much tougher than Michigan State's schedule and in this era where you only play most teams once, schedule matters. The Purdue at Michigan State game will likely determine the conference champion and I believe will be a very close game that comes down to the last minute.
7 straight wins and you guys keep knit picking this team because some people have bad takes. This is the same MSU team you guys made fun of for looking like they would be middle of the pack, now Carter thinks they are final four?
Purdue defense made it so tough for Bittle to get the ball. They denied top side post and shaded hard weak side making it so hard to force a pass in which is why Bittle took so many 3s.
My takeaway from this 2 game stretch as a Purdue fan is that these west coast teams really don't care that much about basketball. The atmosphere was pretty bleh.
Love the show. Love you guys. Can we can the TKR thing. As bannerman for Purdue. He’s not first team big ten or all American. He’s a good player and very good fit for Purdue. He’s elite in pick in roll with Braden. Both can be true
Purdues success is dependent on growth of the younger players and working as a team. Heide, Colvin, Cox will up their game as we get closer to tournament time. I expect Purdue to have a good year but unfortunantly one or two poor shooting games may limit their title chances
They referenced CJ Cox going scoreless at the 9:49 mark and talked about that until 13:43. Nearly 4 minutes banging on CJ Cox, as if his lack of consistency is Purdue's fatal flaw. These guys are straight up haters. This is a 26 minute video if you cut out the ads and they spent 15% of the total video banging on CJ Cox. If the tone of this video doesn't change in the remaining 14 minutes, it will be the last SM video I watch. Update: They moved on to banging on Camden Hedie immediately after. Haters.
The game I watched. Purdue looked like crap. They looked like a team that has played to many games and was on the road; yes good players but tired and working hard on defense. Now Oregon? They just looked like they were sick or something. Dudes missing shots that were wide open and a step slower than normal. As a Purdue fan, I feel like Purdue dodged a bullet here, in that they ran into a team that was flat on their home court. I wonder if some of the Oregon players had the flew or were out a bit too late the night before. What I was super disappointed in was TKR throwing up all the garbage he did and the rest of the team that doesn't play that much not stepping up. TKR tried like mad for sure and I do appreciate that. Braydon and Fletch looked like guards who were just exhausted. Oh and that freaking dunk that Colvin had that he was pushed from behind 100% should have been an intentional foul.
Purdue got a tough draw for big ten schedule. Play MSU Illinois and Michigan a combined 4 times and only get 1 of those at home. None of the other 3 best teams in the league only get 1 home game against the other contenders
the fact you guys act like serious people are saying TKR is 1st Team All-American is hilarious. always have to give tongue & cheek compliments to Purdue lol.
I don’t know for sure if it’s a bit for reaction or not but Carter is clearly a Purdue hater. Greg asks Carter his thoughts and mostly negative answers until Greg convinces Carter to change his mind. Greg is clearly unbiased in these and I can’t understand the hate he gets but Carter on the other hand 😳
G, they are only allowed to shoot when they are open...if you want to continue pissing on the zero point stat lines, please at least tell us how many open shots you saw them pass on
high-quality video content!There are some things I don't understand:I have a wallet address with usdt in it and I have a recovery phrase.:(laugh nominee buzz game expose field wash shoe world sadness bicycle grain).:How do I extract them?
Heide, TKR, Loyer, and Colvin (gets lost) are moderate to bad defenders, which is maddening given Colvin and Heide athleticism? You can't have all on the floor at once...... Cox as a defender is disruptive and aggressive. TKR cannot close out on 3s with a hand up, it's like they are tied to his hips. Just on hand up buddy, just one, Smith is harder to shoot over then TKR.
@ the outcome would’ve been the same and wouldn’t have changed the fact that the refs blow the whistle on nothing more than they blow Matt painter’s shaft
Who are these Purdue fans that have these insane takes on "CJ is the next Carsen, TKR is the best big in the B1G" and other jumping the gun statements? Stop it, be better, we're a knowable fanbase and you're giving us a bad name. I bleed black and gold and love my Boilers but keep it in reality. On a side note, MSU's schedule is soft as marshmallows as far as playing at home and road games in the B1G for sure, it's a joke.
Dude there is not a lot to do in Lafayette/ West Lafayette. Let us cook. Also, the word is knowledgeable. We are not knowable. We are a mystery wrapped in corn dog batter inside an astronauts helmet underneath Jim Gaffigans blue Jean covered woke ass.😅
I don’t watch any other recaps…but do they crap on other teams role players as much as they crap on Purdue’s? They are role players for a reason. The story is Purdue’s defense. Everyone is bought in and playing together on that end and it makes Purdue’s margin for error much bigger.
Cart is feeling confident because he knows MSU doesn’t have to go to Mackey. If MSU were playing Purdue at Mackey he’d be a lot more scared.
I believe they have picked up the slack on the defensive end of the floor which has helped them tremendously in my opinion
Not only that but boxing out and rebounding much better now.
Cart, you're wrong. Sorry my guy, Purdue's scheme has changed and the way they are playing is totally different. Cart doesn't know what he's watching. Greg is right. Cart's gonna do the "they don't have a rim protector" thing probably, but the reality is the design is that they are forcing drives into traffic, 3 or 4 guys, and forcing you to make cross court passes to open shooters. Some teams will be able to do it more than others... but it's not quite "pack line" but it's awfully close. They've totally flipped how they play defensively post-holidays, not just the players on the court (though Cox and Furst are both plus-defenders), and Smith is your roving destroyer getting steals off the ball.
Braden was not even thinking about guarding TJ Mamba like go ahead bro shoot that 3 lol. Same defense MSU is gonna see. Go ahead any player on MSU, try and make a three.
@@dancurran6779 Exactly. It's the same lazy analysis that lead all of Twitter to decide that Edey wasn't a good rim protector because he didn't block a lot of shots... even though he was specifically asked not to try so he'd stay out of foul trouble. "Purdue gives up open looks." Yeah. To your crappy shooters. On purpose.
Braden Smith is really underrated defensively. Should be on the All Big Ten Defensive team too
I can’t tell if you’re trolling. Braden is very good defensive IQ off ball and puts himself in great positions to get steals but can get exposed 1 on 1 often
@@stevesmith1811 I wouldn’t go as far as to say he should be on the all defense team, but I honestly think the narrative of him getting exposed defensively extremely exaggerated. There are a select few 6’6 guards that could give him issues just based on size and the ability to shoot over him. As a tiny guard you’re going to get that at times, but there really aren’t that many of those guards in this conference outside of Kasparas and Dylan Harper.
@@stevesmith1811he leads the Big Ten in steals.
Carts gonna lose his mind when he sees TKR is the Naismith player of the week…now that’s comedy
Oregon got away with like 6 flagrant fouls on top of the 2 they got called for
With regard to CJ Cox and his offensive output, I feel you guys are not being consistent. It's not like he missed a bunch of shots. You previously said Purdue shouldn't "run any action" for him, because you'd rather Braden or Fletch take those shots. That's what's happening! When the defense is such that he's left open he's taking and generally making shots. But he's not the focus of the offense, so I don't know how you can say it's dumb to run plays for him because you want Smith and Loyer taking the shots, and then when that happens you complain that he's not scoring. Not sure what you want him to do.
Purdue’s defensive efficiency has gotten so much better the last month. I get that the competition hasn’t been elite, but they also looked bad defensively against less than elite competition early in the season.
Bittle had TKR’s number defensively but if he can keep making free throws I’m ok with a less than efficient performance from the field.
In conference play Purdue is #1 at forcing turnovers and 2nd on the defensive glass. Braden is leading the conference in steals. They’ve changed their identity and it’s working.
Yeah, Oregon for sure had a plan of attack defensively Commit a bunch of flagrant fouls and see what doesn’t get called.
..Steven Bardo called the game and I remember him saying Purdue’s defense may be the best in the Big10…but no way he knows b’ball as well as Carter 😂
..TKR’s misses were layups?…did you actually watch the game?
I did. TKR played like trash, when he had his back to the basket except one time. All the other times something bad happened and he was shooting very close to the basket. It was so bad that when he caught the ball with his back to the basket, I would scream a the TV. Now to his credit, he did pass the ball a couple of times. I will also say that it was clear that the key players for Purdue were tired and played tired.
TKR is 59% FG and 42.9% 3pt this year. I get the frustration with his lack of rim protection, TO's at times, and very average FT shooting, but getting worked up over 1 game where his FG was down is a bit much.
He has only shot a few wide open threes all year. He is not a threat outside the paint. But goddamn does he play hard!
This is fast food basketball commentary. I know you understand the game in general but these are comments from guys examining box scores. You cannot watch Purdue play 6 weeks ago and then watch them today and not give them credit for improving.
They’ve bought in. They’re playing aggressively. They’re hitting their assignments and most importantly they’re not letting more athletic players bully them.
I don’t expect you to break down film of every game but lately your assessment of Purdue has been super academic. Entertaining but not very quality. Fast food.
They did give Purdue credit for improving
Final comment, I don’t want to hear anything from Greg about “rosie comparisons” on CJ Cox when I heard him comp LJ Cason to Damien Lillard earlier this season lol 😂
There are some stylistic similarities between Carsen and Cox, and I think people get carried away with that. I don't expect Cox to ever be as good as Carsen was as a scorer consistently, but he's a far better defender and rebounder. The rest kind of remains to be seen. For now, Cox is giving them what they need - a strong perimeter defender on the ball.
@ I think that’s exactly the comp people are making. Just acknowledging the stylistic similarities. Not saying he will ever be the volume scorer Carsen was. It’s a unique situation where you’re even given the green light as a player to shoot as much as Carsen did to average 24ppg. Imo it’s purely a stylistic comp.
I hear you on CJ Cox- but from a score and team offensive efficiency standpoint, can you not have a good game shooting 0/0? 0/4 is a bad game, 1/8 is a horrible game. The shots CJ isnt taking are going to someone else. I'd rather see some middle ground, have to at least be a threat... but I don't hate 0/0 entirely, this isnt a Gabe Cupps thing.
As for CJ vs CE, they are night and day:
CJ is a defender first with a take what they give you shot...
CE was/is a shooter first middle and last. He had to be hidden on defense.
They are clearly different players and should be viewed as such.
CJ is only a defender first cuz he’s on a team with Braden/Fletch/TKR… once they’re gone he’ll be the offensive focal point
Unless CE could poke it away for Dunk the dude was not interested in defense at all.
Love to all of this. G with the reverse jinx attempt for himself, Cart openly unstoppable on his own frustration with TKR not knowing he's about to be national player of the week. And the schedule shade. You guys are great.
Cart’s Michigan State gettin’ it done, and now he hatin’ on Purdue lol
It's gonna be fun when TKR goes for 25 and 10 at Breslin.
This was gonna be my comment too. Carter is gonna be so incredibly mad.
Boiler fans here, consider the source. Cart and Greg are good dudes but theyre fans of the Michigan teams. They hate that we are good.
Been saying this for a while
Been saying this forever
Carter, the kryptonite for MSU is Fletch.
Fletch is better!!
..you beat 13th ranked Oregon on their home court 2000 miles from home…not too shaggy
Shabby?
Bittle affected a ton of shots. Even in drop coverage he was able to make Braden uncomfortable trying to shoot over him in the midrange at times. Didn’t realize how good of a rim protector/defender Bittle is until watching this game.
Good description by Greg of Mick Cronin at 25:15 as the leader of UCLA's "Band of Misfits". Can we get the graphics department at Sleepers Media to prepare a cartoon version of Cronin as the "Pirate Captain" (with his well-known red mustache and beard) to go with Cronin's bald head? Yeah, that graphic for upcoming UCLA preview and recap videos would complete this metaphor.
TEAM defense has improved. There is no individual lockdown defender and/or rim protector. Looking forward to seeing the team continue to grow and get better.
For sure Purdue has to be able to win at Michigan State to win the conference this year due to the schedule. Purdue's schedule is much tougher than Michigan State's schedule and in this era where you only play most teams once, schedule matters. The Purdue at Michigan State game will likely determine the conference champion and I believe will be a very close game that comes down to the last minute.
“A cone defensively” 😂 I love my boilers but that’s funny
These guys were banking on Purdue dropping the Oregon or Washington game😅
This recap is worth watching just for the Greg flip
This recap had me laughing. Love you guys
7 straight wins and you guys keep knit picking this team because some people have bad takes. This is the same MSU team you guys made fun of for looking like they would be middle of the pack, now Carter thinks they are final four?
I mean if we are going to buy MSU being tops with its issues, why can’t you buy Purdue continuing to win with its issues?
If Oregon was ranked 13th and were playing on their own floor, and Purdue can hold them to a 0.8 pts/possession has to be a PU positive.
We may not stay in front but we can help and poke the ball away!
Ultimate it is the wins that count not points per game.
Can’t wait to see how the Boilers will do against Michigan… ether one.
Purdue defense made it so tough for Bittle to get the ball. They denied top side post and shaded hard weak side making it so hard to force a pass in which is why Bittle took so many 3s.
Oregon did a good job holding off one of the best offenses in the league, but an absolutely embarrassing showing on offense themselves
My takeaway from this 2 game stretch as a Purdue fan is that these west coast teams really don't care that much about basketball. The atmosphere was pretty bleh.
Love the show. Love you guys. Can we can the TKR thing.
As bannerman for Purdue. He’s not first team big ten or all American.
He’s a good player and very good fit for Purdue. He’s elite in pick in roll with Braden.
Both can be true
Alot of those missed shots were floaters. Not all layups for TKR.
Purdues success is dependent on growth of the younger players and working as a team. Heide, Colvin, Cox will up their game as we get closer to tournament time. I expect Purdue to have a good year but unfortunantly one or two poor shooting games may limit their title chances
They referenced CJ Cox going scoreless at the 9:49 mark and talked about that until 13:43. Nearly 4 minutes banging on CJ Cox, as if his lack of consistency is Purdue's fatal flaw. These guys are straight up haters. This is a 26 minute video if you cut out the ads and they spent 15% of the total video banging on CJ Cox. If the tone of this video doesn't change in the remaining 14 minutes, it will be the last SM video I watch.
Update: They moved on to banging on Camden Hedie immediately after. Haters.
The personal thing with Carter is he realizes TKR is the 6'8" big that Carter thought he was. At Albion college.
I expect CJ to be more aggressive moving forward
why can i buy tickets for Purdue at the Chrysler center for $27 ????? Boiler Up....good luck finding $27 tickets at Mackey
The game I watched. Purdue looked like crap. They looked like a team that has played to many games and was on the road; yes good players but tired and working hard on defense. Now Oregon? They just looked like they were sick or something. Dudes missing shots that were wide open and a step slower than normal. As a Purdue fan, I feel like Purdue dodged a bullet here, in that they ran into a team that was flat on their home court. I wonder if some of the Oregon players had the flew or were out a bit too late the night before. What I was super disappointed in was TKR throwing up all the garbage he did and the rest of the team that doesn't play that much not stepping up. TKR tried like mad for sure and I do appreciate that. Braydon and Fletch looked like guards who were just exhausted. Oh and that freaking dunk that Colvin had that he was pushed from behind 100% should have been an intentional foul.
Lose lose situation for Oregon. If they lose, it’s embarrassing, but if they win, it’s just another “they should’ve won at home, not special”
Welcome to the Big Ten for Oregon ig
I wonder if Snapping Turtle will be available for us to pick up in the transfer portal
Purdue got a tough draw for big ten schedule. Play MSU Illinois and Michigan a combined 4 times and only get 1 of those at home. None of the other 3 best teams in the league only get 1 home game against the other contenders
the fact you guys act like serious people are saying TKR is 1st Team All-American is hilarious. always have to give tongue & cheek compliments to Purdue lol.
If a team drops 58 points at home it is both a poor offensive performance and a good defensive performance
Nobody making shots at an 8am Saturday west coast tip off
I don’t know for sure if it’s a bit for reaction or not but Carter is clearly a Purdue hater. Greg asks Carter his thoughts and mostly negative answers until Greg convinces Carter to change his mind. Greg is clearly unbiased in these and I can’t understand the hate he gets but Carter on the other hand 😳
to be fair a loss to minnesota counts for 2 losses and should eliminate you from big 10 contention
G, they are only allowed to shoot when they are open...if you want to continue pissing on the zero point stat lines, please at least tell us how many open shots you saw them pass on
Hail Purdue...Greg is unfair to Purdue
MSU with a way more favorable schedule
high-quality video content!There are some things I don't understand:I have a wallet address with usdt in it and I have a recovery phrase.:(laugh nominee buzz game expose field wash shoe world sadness bicycle grain).:How do I extract them?
Tell the truth- is your mktg plan just to rage bait? Come on, fess up.
Heide, TKR, Loyer, and Colvin (gets lost) are moderate to bad defenders, which is maddening given Colvin and Heide athleticism? You can't have all on the floor at once...... Cox as a defender is disruptive and aggressive. TKR cannot close out on 3s with a hand up, it's like they are tied to his hips. Just on hand up buddy, just one, Smith is harder to shoot over then TKR.
You know how to own it when officials screw someone over? How about the refs calling fouls on ghosts all game against Oregon
How about Bittle taking out colvins legs and not calling a flagrant, which would have ejected him
@ the outcome would’ve been the same and wouldn’t have changed the fact that the refs blow the whistle on nothing more than they blow Matt painter’s shaft
Who are these Purdue fans that have these insane takes on "CJ is the next Carsen, TKR is the best big in the B1G" and other jumping the gun statements? Stop it, be better, we're a knowable fanbase and you're giving us a bad name. I bleed black and gold and love my Boilers but keep it in reality. On a side note, MSU's schedule is soft as marshmallows as far as playing at home and road games in the B1G for sure, it's a joke.
Purdue had a pretty favorable schedule relative to the other contenders at least one of the previous 2 B1G titles, let's at least acknowledge that.
Dude there is not a lot to do in Lafayette/ West Lafayette. Let us cook. Also, the word is knowledgeable. We are not knowable. We are a mystery wrapped in corn dog batter inside an astronauts helmet underneath Jim Gaffigans blue Jean covered woke ass.😅
Schedule doesn't get you 3+ games
I don’t watch any other recaps…but do they crap on other teams role players as much as they crap on Purdue’s?
They are role players for a reason. The story is Purdue’s defense. Everyone is bought in and playing together on that end and it makes Purdue’s margin for error much bigger.
I am with you Brad, not sure who Greg is following on socials, but I haven’t seen any of those things posted.
Smith is so overrated.
Wow... not even trying to be creative with the trolling. At least make me laugh a little.