I have been playing for 4 years now and this is by far my favorite deck. I am not a great deck builder, but this is one I built a couple years ago with red card and chip chip before they were banned. Absolute insanity. Every ladder finish I have completed is thanks to this deck. These days i run pokegear/mail plus a green's engine. I have found it to be more consistent for the turn 1 evolve and lab. I have also found spinner to be better than lotto. I also run muscle band and choice band to fix math. Not trying to nitpick you Andrew I love all your vids. Thanks for showcasing this deck!
Theres no point your playing silent lab to turn of dedeene anyways so your opponents wont even get a chance to bench them when not going first (most expanded decks prefer going second as well). Even in the best case situation where your opponent starts with dedeene, you entire deck is based on match up and if you don't pair ageist a deck thats using just special energys you instantly lose. In other words telescopic sight does not help you at all. This decks entire game is decided on turn 1 it does not benefit from a card that helps it take 6 prizes faster since it can do that at anyspeed with the lock in play.
It might be interesting to see if Honchcrow can work in Standard once the new Path to the Peak stadium is released in Chilling Reign. It's not quite as powerful as Silent Lab but your opponent won't be able to use abilities from their rule box Pokémon.
I had some problems getting basic pokemon out (the mulligans my opponent got were insane), so I subbed out some of the excessive trainers for 2 dedenne and a ditto. Entertainment allows me to put out basic pokemon and dedenne's attack can do a stupid amount of damage for 1 energy, especially if you failed to stop them from attaching energies. Ditto gives me an extra chance at getting honchkrow out and yes, while silent lab negates its ability to do that, usually I'm able to evolve it before that happens. It's been working like a dream.
So I've been jamming this a bunch. In 30 games I don't think I've used the nest ball single time. Any suggestions for replacements? Add more consistency perhaps with another dig item?
It’s just good vs special energy decks. When everyone plays ultra Necrozma/garbodor it’s good otherwise it’s terrible. You often lose when your opponent can just ko your lone honchkrow GX vs welder decks
It'll only be affective on GX and V and the most prominent ones won't even be benched, Dedenne and Crobat wouldn't get their abilities off with Silent Lab and if they do get to be played at that point its too late or won't matter.
@@yoadsasson2375 that what I'm thinking but then again u can't hit v's and silent labs might deter them from dropping certain supports anyone. I think it could work but it's not a deffo improvement
I've also been playing honchkrow from guardians rising with swoop across tapu koko. As with telescopic sight and koko you do 50 damage to all ur opponents bench v's and GXs. If your opponent has a full bench of gxs and v's honchkrow does 280 damage to any pokemon on the second turn.
how come this isnt banned considering several other cards were banned because they can bring out evolved pokemon that have disruption abilities that are potentially way less extreme.
@@nicholasfarrell5981 Sorry, Egg Splat. Discard any number of Exeggcute from your hand. This attack does 60 damage for each card you discarded in this way. Team Up Alolan Exeggutor. Pretty solid deck that hardocore loses to the big Crow but not much else.
Many people must have seen this video because when I played online last night I must have went up against like 20 Honchkrow decks. Hence, I conceded like 20 times. Lol
18:22 That's incorrect actually. Ultra Necrozma has the "tools" to beat it, it's just people play a certain version of the deck today that makes them highly prone to auto losing towards honchcrow but have a good chance vs anything else.
@@mak_707 it needs klefkey from steam siege, its a pokemon that can mimmick as a tool card then you need double Garbodor. You attach klefky to one garbodor turning of honchkrow's abitily so you can then attach a float stone to the other garbodor to turn it of for good. That said nobody is playing klefkey because honchkrow is just a counter deck and not something to be taken seriously.
@@kingwailord4143 ok, so there is 1 answer? still a terrible deck to play agaist: turn one lock is never fun, even if you eventually get the counter. not the best 10 m of my life.
I watched this video solely to see this deck play past turn 1. Have yet to play against it with Archie’s and not get the donk or lose to it instantly with Roto Motor Rotom
With this deck I've been running clay with random receiver and more item discard cards as when u clay you put all items into your hard with a potential of getting 7 items into your hand like order pad, crushing hammer, enhanced hammer, computer search, escape rope, trainers mail, dusk stone, peeking red card, tormenting spray ect.
Does the comment section not understand control decks are necessary for a healthy meta? There will be some decks that aren't fun to play against, but they also tend to have some really bad matchups.
This card - or atleast the dusk stone - really should be banned. It's not like ADP where you just have bad chances... for like 20% of all expanded decks you have literally NO chance for counterattack. It's ridiculous.
scroling down hte comments to find some actually saying this. i get Andrew and this is all about having fun but more positive) critical thinking is ever necessary.
Have you thought about using baby magcargo with the ability that lets you look for any card and put it on top of your deck? Might come in handy with hunchkrow-gx.
no since you automatically lose to anybody playing basic energy cards. Honchkrow is just a counter deck, it ether wins instantly or loses instantly and in this climate its losing instantly way more often then its winning.
I mean, it's already Expanded. If you're a Standard purist then its essentially banned already. But this deck is (how its called in Yugioh) Antimeta. Strong control but also dismantled if you don't play the type of deck you control in the first place.
I hate this deck!!!! But respect this toxic garbage. All they need to do is ban duskstone and bam almost beatable with special energy decks.Yep auto loss for me.
@@alexmezz4923 I can see Dusk Stone getting banned eventually because I'm making out some kind of pattern with banned cards and accelerating evolution. Still I'm not sure if banning it is really necessary right now
@@jackpulliam910 I've played against the old decks that had accelerated evolution and all were better than this , it's good but limited to a few alright cards , and it sees little standard play and little expanded, it's not game breaking on any level, so it likely won't be banned but ya never know
I'm on-off from this game for years. Comingback after couple years and face decks like this seriously ruins the experience. I wonder what new players feel when they play against broken decks like this. I wouldn't be supprised if a decent amount of them just never gets enganged with the game. What I also don't understand is..People having fun of killing every joy of their oppenents game?After a hard they at scool/work really the best thing you can do is sit down ruin others gameplay? How fucked up this community/game balancing team..
It would be nice if they had a version of "vanilla" mode. A mode using older expansions or something. Because yeah, expansion is the wild west and standard sucks when you come back after a time and all your decks don't work.
Why are you featuring these piece of shit decks in a game already dying due to a whole slew of other dogshit balancing issues??? Decks like these turn people off to playing the game.
Ahhh yes forgive my janky editing there in the middle of the games. Couple of jump cuts from where I ripped the clips for the intro ;)
No worries Andrew! You work hard pushing out great content, no need to apologize.
This was helpful. I wanted to see the cheatcrozma lose so when it cut I craid
The dark side is a path to decks some may consider... Control.
"Oh THEY play Silent Lab!"
Hard cut to the next match
My God this deck is insane
😒 lol sure it is
@@mah_sanity5635
its a speed run
For you if it goes well
Against you if it doesn't
There should be a montage of scoops from this deck.
I have been playing for 4 years now and this is by far my favorite deck. I am not a great deck builder, but this is one I built a couple years ago with red card and chip chip before they were banned. Absolute insanity. Every ladder finish I have completed is thanks to this deck.
These days i run pokegear/mail plus a green's engine. I have found it to be more consistent for the turn 1 evolve and lab. I have also found spinner to be better than lotto. I also run muscle band and choice band to fix math. Not trying to nitpick you Andrew I love all your vids. Thanks for showcasing this deck!
I think at least one telescopic sight in this deck would be good.
Theres no point your playing silent lab to turn of dedeene anyways so your opponents wont even get a chance to bench them when not going first (most expanded decks prefer going second as well). Even in the best case situation where your opponent starts with dedeene, you entire deck is based on match up and if you don't pair ageist a deck thats using just special energys you instantly lose.
In other words telescopic sight does not help you at all. This decks entire game is decided on turn 1 it does not benefit from a card that helps it take 6 prizes faster since it can do that at anyspeed with the lock in play.
@@kingwailord4143 Valid points. Thx
It might be interesting to see if Honchcrow can work in Standard once the new Path to the Peak stadium is released in Chilling Reign. It's not quite as powerful as Silent Lab but your opponent won't be able to use abilities from their rule box Pokémon.
I'll take a nice haagen dazs coffee as my free scoop please.
The editing was weird for this video, you skipped 2 games :(
Don't think he actually skipped them. They were the two insta scoop games at the very beginning of the video.
Its not, people literally quit when the Honchkrow hits the field.
The maniacle cackling goes so good with this deck 😈
I had some problems getting basic pokemon out (the mulligans my opponent got were insane), so I subbed out some of the excessive trainers for 2 dedenne and a ditto. Entertainment allows me to put out basic pokemon and dedenne's attack can do a stupid amount of damage for 1 energy, especially if you failed to stop them from attaching energies. Ditto gives me an extra chance at getting honchkrow out and yes, while silent lab negates its ability to do that, usually I'm able to evolve it before that happens.
It's been working like a dream.
Deck needs Muscle Band to hit better numbers against the likes of Zacian V and Guzma Hala to give you another out for getting Silent Lab into play.
Why not play telescopic sight? It wouldn't change consistency that much and it would double the bench damage speeding it up
So I've been jamming this a bunch. In 30 games I don't think I've used the nest ball single time. Any suggestions for replacements? Add more consistency perhaps with another dig item?
Wouldn’t level ball be better than nest ball in this deck?
What you guys think about playing piers supporter in this deck ?
It’s just good vs special energy decks. When everyone plays ultra Necrozma/garbodor it’s good otherwise it’s terrible. You often lose when your opponent can just ko your lone honchkrow GX vs welder decks
what happened at 17:07 and 27:14?
When will codes get restocked for eternatus
Check out Potownstore. They currently have a ton of codes for that one.
Are you able to use tool cards on Honchkrow? Can you not used telescopic sight for additional bench damage?
It'll only be affective on GX and V and the most prominent ones won't even be benched, Dedenne and Crobat wouldn't get their abilities off with Silent Lab and if they do get to be played at that point its too late or won't matter.
@@Rankurusu777 well that's what I'm saying Honchkrows damage goes to GX Pokemon anyway. So that would be more damage going to it
What do u think about adding telescopic sight to the deck?
that what I thought if u could squeeze 1 or 2 in it could help end games quicker putting more pressure in the opponent
@@vkdeen7570 u can 3 tap dedenne gx with sight
@@yoadsasson2375 that what I'm thinking but then again u can't hit v's and silent labs might deter them from dropping certain supports anyone. I think it could work but it's not a deffo improvement
I've also been playing honchkrow from guardians rising with swoop across tapu koko. As with telescopic sight and koko you do 50 damage to all ur opponents bench v's and GXs. If your opponent has a full bench of gxs and v's honchkrow does 280 damage to any pokemon on the second turn.
I might try this, how's it going? It seems really fun to play.
@@speedyboost_ its actually really fun make sure u add the mime with the scoop up blocker
Why don’t you play telescopic sight?
its useless when your playing silent lab to turn of dedeene (the main target of sight)
how come this isnt banned considering several other cards were banned because they can bring out evolved pokemon that have disruption abilities that are potentially way less extreme.
This is misery. I just want to have fun and play Eggdrop in expanded....
John Seiler forgive my ignorance, but what's Eggdrop?
@@nicholasfarrell5981 Sorry, Egg Splat.
Discard any number of Exeggcute from your hand. This attack does 60 damage for each card you discarded in this way.
Team Up Alolan Exeggutor. Pretty solid deck that hardocore loses to the big Crow but not much else.
@@spoileralertksua that sounds like a good time.
I loved this deck with omastar when boss's order wasn't in standard. With black market and shedninja.
Why energy lotto though?
Never mind. Special energy search I get it.
No field blower / faba? I know Honchkrow blocks tools and stadiums, but if your opponent manages to get a float stone on a trubbish you are screwed
Honchkrow doesn´t let your opp play special energies, tools or stadiums from their hand so Trubbish will never have a tool
ultra necrozma decks always choose to go second anyways ;)
@@TrickyGym They can sneak one with wobb though
@@letthereberockFTW Wobbuffet. + Sometimes you might wiff the t1 Honchkrow without losing
the deck can whiff
Insane deck = Crazy video editing
Many people must have seen this video because when I played online last night I must have went up against like 20 Honchkrow decks. Hence, I conceded like 20 times. Lol
18:22 That's incorrect actually. Ultra Necrozma has the "tools" to beat it, it's just people play a certain version of the deck today that makes them highly prone to auto losing towards honchcrow but have a good chance vs anything else.
What version would have a chance at this? The Garbador can't attach a tool so the ability won't activate...
@@mak_707 it needs klefkey from steam siege, its a pokemon that can mimmick as a tool card then you need double Garbodor. You attach klefky to one garbodor turning of honchkrow's abitily so you can then attach a float stone to the other garbodor to turn it of for good.
That said nobody is playing klefkey because honchkrow is just a counter deck and not something to be taken seriously.
@@kingwailord4143 ok, so there is 1 answer? still a terrible deck to play agaist: turn one lock is never fun, even if you eventually get the counter. not the best 10 m of my life.
The preview is brilliant!!
I might use that desk for fun
What’s your best expanded reshizard deck I’d like to know for a tournament in September
I wouldn't recommend Welder decks in Expanded, but that's just me.
Welder decks doesn't work in expanded
Who do you think you are telling me what works or not
I know what works in my city ok
@@nathanspokemongamesandfun7370 I mean, go ahead and try it. Don't blame us for the poor results
What formats is this playable in?
Expanded
Free wins:
Ultra Necrozma
Mad Party
Mew Cram
Etc
Etc
Etc
...
I watched this video solely to see this deck play past turn 1. Have yet to play against it with Archie’s and not get the donk or lose to it instantly with Roto Motor Rotom
Tyler Meyer oh cool, didn't know Roto Motor was still a deck.
Nicholas Farrell it may not be, but I sure enjoy that squiggly little ghost!
@@derphouse hey, play what you want. I just didn't think anyone was still playing that beautiful meme. Always fun to see in action.
With this deck I've been running clay with random receiver and more item discard cards as when u clay you put all items into your hard with a potential of getting 7 items into your hand like order pad, crushing hammer, enhanced hammer, computer search, escape rope, trainers mail, dusk stone, peeking red card, tormenting spray ect.
Dang guzma wars are a thing in expanded..
Hahaha Honchkrow GX is the best. I have an unlimited cube and the honchkrow line is beloved... but only by the player that drafts it.. hahaha
This deck recks me alot... I really wish hex maniac was still a thing
He gave up on malamar and decided to go full evil with the honchkrow
Does the comment section not understand control decks are necessary for a healthy meta? There will be some decks that aren't fun to play against, but they also tend to have some really bad matchups.
It looses to basic standard decks lmao
ok. but should control be like this? is it the only way?
Ah so it's kind of like Omastar but with Decidueye's attack
With a hint of Alolan Persian GX😁
Was just craving some expanded too 😎
This card - or atleast the dusk stone - really should be banned. It's not like ADP where you just have bad chances... for like 20% of all expanded decks you have literally NO chance for counterattack. It's ridiculous.
scroling down hte comments to find some actually saying this. i get Andrew and this is all about having fun but more positive) critical thinking is ever necessary.
The only deck that makes me hate expanded. Even Pheromosa/Latios donk was more fun to face
Call it T1- Quad Qrow..
Mannnn we played against each other a few times and I was using krow. Haha now there’s a video. Awesome haha
Have you thought about using baby magcargo with the ability that lets you look for any card and put it on top of your deck? Might come in handy with hunchkrow-gx.
27:13 Ah, I see both Mews suddenly decided to use transform to change to a whole different deck
But did you lose a game on stream?
Of course! You can watch the stream vod here twitch.tv/trickygym
Please play a garydos from rebel crash deck.
That card is so bad though. The gyarados from Team up is even better lmao
17:07 lmao
this is just evil
Will this deck be banned
no since you automatically lose to anybody playing basic energy cards. Honchkrow is just a counter deck, it ether wins instantly or loses instantly and in this climate its losing instantly way more often then its winning.
@@kingwailord4143 but lots of people in expanded play special energy
@@toivan1060 then maybe they shouldn't? This deck is not good enough for a ban lmao
I mean, it's already Expanded. If you're a Standard purist then its essentially banned already. But this deck is (how its called in Yugioh) Antimeta. Strong control but also dismantled if you don't play the type of deck you control in the first place.
@@toivan1060 not every deck does and its their fault for making their decks so linear.
Unfair gx really doesn’t seem that bad.
Rename to Mildly Upsetting GX
it isn't until you get judged to 4 and get your continuity cards erased. good luck doing anything in topdeck mode.
Sombres But the move by itself...
Brb buying this in paper
This deck=Scoopty Doops.
Finally this deck
I love honchdaddy
no guzma hala???
His second opponent deserve it, deserve to be called a loser and a coward 😏
These Honchkrow decks are so annoying to play against lol
Helmet
I hate this deck!!!! But respect this toxic garbage. All they need to do is ban duskstone and bam almost beatable with special energy decks.Yep auto loss for me.
Why would they ban dusk stone ?
@@alexmezz4923 I can see Dusk Stone getting banned eventually because I'm making out some kind of pattern with banned cards and accelerating evolution. Still I'm not sure if banning it is really necessary right now
@@jackpulliam910 I've played against the old decks that had accelerated evolution and all were better than this , it's good but limited to a few alright cards , and it sees little standard play and little expanded, it's not game breaking on any level, so it likely won't be banned but ya never know
Let’s gooooo dude! :)
Good game champ eeeeeeee
The crow is so horrible
I'm on-off from this game for years. Comingback after couple years and face decks like this seriously ruins the experience. I wonder what new players feel when they play against broken decks like this. I wouldn't be supprised if a decent amount of them just never gets enganged with the game. What I also don't understand is..People having fun of killing every joy of their oppenents game?After a hard they at scool/work really the best thing you can do is sit down ruin others gameplay? How fucked up this community/game balancing team..
It would be nice if they had a version of "vanilla" mode. A mode using older expansions or something. Because yeah, expansion is the wild west and standard sucks when you come back after a time and all your decks don't work.
Every time I play this deck I make the game go the full time to be a d*ck.
This deck is so annoying
this deck is actual aids and i say that playing necrozmodor.
I hate this deck, why would you show it to thousands of people.
I'm going to say 2 words and you all will hate me for this
ETERNATUS VMAX
I hate honchkrow GX
Why are you featuring these piece of shit decks in a game already dying due to a whole slew of other dogshit balancing issues??? Decks like these turn people off to playing the game.
busted deck!
Delete this.