Which is why Ben Simmons isn't thriving in Philly, this style of ball is what's mainly played overseas and players faults are hidden from value Isaiah Thomas would benefit from this too.
The beauty of this system is it’s a modern take on the original play style of the game. Watching this footage almost looks like vintage basketball play.
@@Avogadros_number I can admit it’s not show stopping, but it’s effective as hell. It’s the same idea as the early 00’s Spurs, boring to watch but consistent title contenders.
@@Avogadros_number actually not,this system is pretty much the same with how 14 spurs system and current GSW and heat plays but its not perfect More passing mean more turnover especially against good defense. This strategy is possible because the defender at this level dont have the length and instinct to distrupt the passing lanes. Imagine playing this type of games against jimmy,kawhi,giannis or the entire raptors team that can distrupt the passing lane without leaving their marked man Also this level of communication isnt possible without perfect chemistry of the entire team and the only 2 team to pull of this kind of play to championship is just GSW and spurs
@@a-t5380 More importantly, they have one on one with the current players. That allows both the recruit and the players to provide input about how the recruit might fit in.
What I find most interesting about this system is that it fixes the problem of not being able to recruit head to head against the big teams by not trying to compete for the same type of player. By creating a very different system they've increased the quality of their recruitment pool by emphasizing different traits.
This... This is what all the other comments are missing. Most teams are looking for the the absolutely most talented players they can recruit... the biggest, the quickest, the best shooters and rebounders. Obviously the majors are going to attract the best talent, and they can afford play traditional basketball using their extreme (and deep) talent pool. The smaller schools have to find a way to be different if they want to win consistently. My first two years of college basketball was with a JUCO with all white guys. As you can imagine, the vast majority were slow. Our superpower was shooting, but how do you ever get a shot off when your defenders are so much quicker? Screen, after screen, after screen. That was how we played. Probably not as intensely or as disciplined as Bellarmine, but we made it work with a bunch of unathletic, slow, shooters. It worked for us, too. We went 25-7 on the season and 13-1 at home. We either pounded them inside with our bigs or punished them with excessive 3-point shooting. But multiple screens are where it all started.
Thats the same basic principal behind moneyball. When the Oakland A’s were a small market team trying to compete with big spenders like the New York Yankees, they emphasized different skills (namely, on base percentage) and saw value in players that other teams passed up, because those other teams weren’t looking at the right qualities.
It’s kind of like football teams that run the Wing T or Flexbone. Pro style offenses only work if you have big and offensive lineman and have a qb that can make throws. Wing T uses angles and misdirection to make a less talented offensive line more competitive.
I remember this video being the catalyst to keeping tabs on how Bellarmine did this year, and now they’re ASUN tournament champs. It’s too bad they can’t go dancing this year due to the lame NCAA rules, but it’s still awesome to see such a unique style of basketball like Bellarmine be so successful
@@morganewing304 it’s really is, considering that for 4 years the players they recruit know they won’t be able to make the NCAA tournament. Bellarmine has petitioned to the NCAA to reduce the probation period from 4 years to 2, which is a step in the right direction. The only reason that rule has been in place is to discourage D2 teams from making the transition to D1 too soon, so I don’t think it’ll be phased out entirely anytime soon
I've been playing pickup basketball with the same group of guys now for a little over 20 years. As we got slower, we adopted this style of play against younger players. We can pass faster than they can run. We win about 80% of the time.
That's pretty cool, you guys took a page from the greats. the reason a lot of HOF players had to change up their game as their athleticism started to decline
I used to run and screen and cut and run and screen and cut ... it is a young person's style. As you grow older you can do it, only with "the same group of guys" because you know exactly where each of you will move towards (the word running is not usually associated with what we do past some age ahaha)
This is beautiful basketball. Just absolutely beautiful team basketball. If there was an NBA team that played like this I would watch them every game. The closest thing I can think of are the 2010-2016 Spurs teams.
@@blowc1612 you build the right team i think it could. a lot of teams play hero ball and as great as some players are it makes the game predictable in some stretches where in this offense you’re in constant conflict instead of knowing who’s going to have the ball/taking the shot
@@timandmonica you do understand that's still college..the NBA has ELITE college level talent AS BENCH WARMERS 🤣 this doesn't work in the NBA because I higher BIQ players that can anticipate the pass and are quicker to be able to disrupt the passing lane. There's a reason why you don't see this ridiculous amount of passing, since it would be a TO. In the NBA excessive passing LEADS TO TO.
That last play where they have the guard make the Iverson cut and the other guard sets multiple screens is INSANE. Genuinely genius. I love how fluid their offense looks. So smooth man.
this is a larry bird system. This is how he literally he played, how he scored and passed the ball. He didn't dribble the ball too much. He never held the ball for more than 3 seconds and moved without the ball consistently. Unbelievable
Okay. But does this system work (with the right players, assuming) ? I mean, compared to the Duke, Kentucky, Gonzaga schemes? We know that most of the top College football teams, follow the Nick Saban "sytle" of "pro style, RPO" scheme. I just wondered if this style of play is successful at the top levels of college.
Exactly! Same thing I always think about Mugsy Boges. Every team should have 1 player under 5'7" just to throw him in and disrupt plays. Crazy that nobody has done it since. When you have every player used to playing guys 6'4 and up having a wild card like that would completely change the game.
Not ironic, it makes perfect sense. It’s all about exploiting the opponents weakness and that weakness just happens to be defense. This system eats the clock so it gives your opponent less time to play offense. Pretty simple.
@@ispartacus1337 As if players like Mugsy Boges are a dime a dozen lol that dude was exceptional for his height. That's like saying "why don't teams just find guys that can do Kareem's hook shot?" ... Earl Boykins was barely taller than Boges and had a long NBA career in the modern era, but these guys are extremely rare.
This is beautiful basketball: very team oriented, unselfish, lots of court awareness. So much more fun to watch than the penetrate and pass out for 3 point shot or pound it in to the post play.
Yea, I had to deal with that in high school and it INFURIATED me. People, players, and even coaches, frankly don't realize how much more fun and effective it is to move the ball quickly down the court and find the quickest way to score. It's way quicker to score when you move the ball quick and dribble as little as needed.
Beautiful basketball. In the NBA and your higher level NCAA Men's team can overcome this with pure athleticism and length but I am surprised many Women's college team and WNBA teams are not doing this.
I'm a Saint Mary's fan and watched the game we played against Bellarmine this past year. I came away very impressed with their crisp passing and calculated cutting. Their offense was complex and they ran it very well. Our length bothered them but it was definitely a closer game than anyone on our side anticipated. Fun team to watch.
This will not only exhaust the defense physically, but also mentally. It's hard trying to keep track of the ball when it's always moving, and if you can't do it consistently, not only will your opponent score, but you will start to feel defeated before the game is even in the 4th quarter.
That and people get sloppy on defense with more and more passes. Off ball movement is a hidden gem in winning championships and if everyone is moving while the ball is moved to everyone, no defender can slack but they also can’t watch the ball while watching their man. I would hate to play against that style of basketball
@@eli6797 yeah I love to play defense and it makes it so much easier when people dribble and screen cause it mkaes it a lot easier to match up with the player. As soon as heavy passing starts it gets a lot more difficult because just like in sports like soccer it makes it easier for someone to lose a player as it increases off the ball movement
This reminds me of a line from Moneyball. “If we try to play like the Yankees in here, we will lose to the Yankees out there.” Playing the game how you want is better than trying to keep up with more individually talented players at their own game.
@@13floss Did you miss the bit at the start of the video where it showed how they've been winning more since this coach started? This works. Does it work as well as being a big-time program with gigantic resources and the most talented players in the country? Of course not but he is maximising the quality of players he has which is the very definition of good coaching.
@@kgill99 I’ll say this: my university just played Bellarmine tonight and I was at the game. They were the most active opponent Jacksonville State had faced all year and kept them on their P’s and Q’s. It was amazing watching the cuts and passes, the SID department I work for were joking about count dribbles in the game. We got the win but it was close, and there was almost a fight after the game. Can’t wait to play them again!
Coach is a Hoop God…..simple science…the ball can move faster than a defender..bonus the defender wears down having to constantly be in chase mode….brilliant
@TheMrCaptainStfu but it’s more confusing on the defensive, I’m pretty sure the offense knows the plays like the back of their hand to pull it off that well, making it like muscle memory eventually to where your just running to your individual spot like a dance team, so no one person is doing to much or has to think too hard, while the defense is on a wild goose chase looking for the ball
@TheMrCaptainStfu yeah but this team is obviously built for cardio. Just like West Virginia with the full court press. Other teams usually can't keep up
@TheMrCaptainStfu it’s take more of a toll to be reactionary rather than knowing what’s coming. Think about it like a high paced football offense. The defense is always more gassed than the offense
@TheMrCaptainStfu they do have an edge because they know what play they’re running and the defense doesn’t 😂. It takes more of a toll mentally and physically to play defense
Riley Wallace, coach of Univ of Hawai'i 1987-2007, ran this style of play. It was fun to watch and allowed our under-recruited players to compete night in and night out. More easy baskets as most are at the rim.
@@kookthekid8338 keep in mind their losses are to teams that are staples of the tournament. #1 Gonzaga, #2 UCLA , #7 Purdue , Murray State, West Virginia, and Saint Mary’s. That’s a tough non conference schedule.
This is such a fun style to watch and play. When I was a kid, my father, a great college basketball player from the 50s, would have us practice moving the ball without dribbling. Once we stopped complaining about not being able to dribble we had so much fun totally dismantling our opponents for easy layups.
@@TheHubeef To each his own, I guess. If you think it's fun to play with guys who just ball hog and then cast from 25 ft all game because they all think they're Kobe, then OK, whatever. But if you like to win as a team, it's fun to move the ball around and get the open shot while the dudes on defense are getting gassed running around trying to keep up. Everyone gets touches, everyone scores. It's all good.
In 1986, College NCAA I was starting varsity as a freshman for a Nationally ranked team, coming from NJ 2 Time All Star Ledger 1st Team All Everything, which is BIG SHIT in NJ. Played for a nationally ranked team in high school and college. This Coach WOULD NOT ALLOW A PLAYER TO JUMP OFF ONE FOOT for a lay up. IT SUCKED PLAYING THAT WAY. My basketball resume is BIG! I play like Kyrie Irving and Dr J with a Devin Booker Steph Curry shot and game IQ. I transferred away from the non lay up coach and had a blast again jumping off my left and / or right foot to slam and jam and pass and play. You can play on THAT only passing team and pretend you are a real player when you are not really. Take one dribble to your left or right after a good ball fake and shoot vs ONLY passing you dumby ;) I had another coach that refused to talk, communicate, or make eye contact with any referee. To make a long story, short, we went 25 and 4 and would have won the Group 4 states if our coach had half a brain. You can play pass only and I will be having more fun, playing better, and WINNING! No NBA team has ever even done that for even one possession. GIVE IT UP you basketball non players on pretending that passing is not a thing.
I've been to one NBA game in the past 5 years and 40% of the game was people faking a foul and taking free throws. Not sure why anyone watches it anymore.
It's hard for me to adequately express how much I love this video. I was coached to play basketball in a similar way, with a pass first--screen away--look for the open cutter, back cuts type of offense. When bball is played this way, it's like a beautiful symphony, poetry in motion. I love this so much. This made literally made me laugh out in pure joy as I watched this team basketball in action. I'm now a BIG fan of the Bellarmine Knights!
Anyone with hands will snatch a pass. M2M litterally destroys this strat. Regardless of what they say, the players are still cutting, theyre just not screening. Its litterally like white kids never learned how to dribble, but they all own hoops. If they had half the team swinging and the other half screening and cutting they would be a menacing team, because they lack ego, and hold awareness.
This was only a practice drill when I played. Our coach had two die and whatever they landed on, that’s how many times we had to pass it before we could shoot. We weren’t allowed to dribble either. When we got the ball, we’d have to stay where we were and wait for our teammates to get open. Taught us about passing, cutting, and when you were on defense, taught us about man on man.
Oh, teams thought that when our coach yelled a number out that it was the play we were running, but it was how many passes we needed to make before shooting. If we shot before then, we came out of the game, even if it were wide open.
Great video, thanks. I watched Murray State beat Bellarmine by almost 20 early this season. (it was close at half time). I immediately noticed Bellarmine's unique style of offense. I also noticed they struggle a bit on defense and they turn the ball over. A LOT. To be fair, Murray St is having a great year and are tops in their conference, so that played a part.
It's a very smart strategy. Like anything it will be figured out but knowing when to go to this with certain personnel, match ups etc. and being an expert in refining it's execution brings a more mental chess aspect/high basketball IQ/feel requirement to the game. Love it. Poetry in motion.
Love it man! My high school coach was cut from the same cloth. Super old school game. High ball movement, low scoring. Our practices had a 5-10 pass minimum per play before even attempting a shot. We unfortunately didn't have the personnel to pull it off. We kinda just did what we wanted during games and lost a lot 🤦🏿♂️ this is my first time seeing this type of play in modern basketball. Take note, it works extremely well.
The editing and graphics on this video make this system so clear that I'm easily understanding the Xs & Os like I never have before. You did an amazing job with this video and I can't wait to watch more. And wow is Bellarmine fun to watch!
As an European who's been watching other sports and never really watched basketball before last year, i always found it weird how little passes there are. But this looks a lot like how you play handball, pass around the perimeter until there is a crack in the wall and attack it. Pretty dope looking
This is how we taught to play basketball in Europe in the early/mid 2000s. Constant rotation and screens + 1 dribble layups/shots, very little driving.
@@j0kersmoker i know drills like this system, but also the game at least in germany was different to this in the early and mid '2000s' on the amateur level i know and especially on the pro level. I would have say it was a lot more pick and roll/pop + and i different to today postup but not from the guards like here. i guess mids 00 rattelsdorf, crailsheim and göttingen made noises implementing the guard terror scheme which also plays with very small lineups but a totally different offensiv approach (very fast shots) and lots of press defence ... Not so common, but very new and good results for the 'money'. Göttingen even made it to the bbl and etablished then there.
in Europe players are able to stand in 3 second box as much as they want, so many of those cuts would be close with zone defence, so this won't be that easy in Europe to do this
I’m from Louisville, KY. I went to Bellarmine college for training camp back in HS & this is in fact what they do. This is practically what they teach you during drills as well, as a HS player.
Having looked into the 1-4 high UCLA offense recently, I can see some inspiration from the wing series in Bellarmine’s main offensive series, with the way they run their scissor action being equatable to the post sprint down and back screen for a lob over the top
Not really. Running a better system that is superior you always get an advantage. The more talented the players running the superior system the more you win by.
@@Marclouispierre No. "Not really" is correct. If you're viewing running this kind of offense as a talent mitigation strategy then the point has been missed.
I’d say the main reason is that nba rotations don’t run nearly as deep and the gap between a superstar and a role player is bigger than in college. Schemes like this wouldn’t allow your star to create offense for others
It’s only because NBA guys won’t buy into being unselfish at all times. You can barely get 90% to contest a layup let alone pass up the first open 30 footer they see
In my 25 yeaars of coaching, I have always practiced my offense without dribbling. If the ball hit the floor, it was a turnover. Forced my players to learn how to cut, move, screen and never stand still. Also forced us defensively to play harder, stay with guys, not get back-doored and able to withstand long defensive possessions. Works like a charm, especially if you have shooters and finishers. All these players now want to dribble the life out of the ball, and they don't need to.
So good! Haven't seen another team do this since Ralph Miller's OSU......the true workings of this system keeps everyone's focus on high speed. Also makes it fun, and fun to watch.
Passing and cutting is the most beautiful way to enjoy (playing or watching) any team, ball sport. Everyone is engaged in each possession. They make it look so easy! But anyone who has actually played knows this requires a lot of focus, practice and team chemistry to execute the system to perfection
@@triptychlux I think what RSG is saying is that NBA hopeful college players wouldn’t want to play in this system because they can’t showcase themselves in this type of offense.
We played against a team that played like this. That was the MOST tired that I had ever been with time still left on the clock.. Everyone's energy was on -10% and we still had 4 minutes left to play in the game.
People who say this is boring to watch, well I won't say you're wrong, but I find this way more beautiful and entertaining than what's being played in the NBA these days. Shows a lot of team play and rewards unselfishness. Also, it's great to watch them adjust their offense when their main play is a no go. They adjust by changing the passing rather that trying to do a flashy individual play. Great to watch.
This is dope! My cousin played for them for 4 years, he loved playing for Coach Davenport! He ended up leading Division II (They were D2 at the time) in scoring once or twice and was a two time All American. Scotty definitely utilized Rusty’s shooting ability and willingness to move without the ball as good as any coach could’ve. He lit up Indiana and Louisville a couple of times.
it makes perfect sense too. I am a Texas Tech fan who is well known for having an amazing Defense as they originated the "no middle" d. One thing I have always noticed is when a team gets into a passing rhythm they can manipulate the fast pace movement of the Tech defense then boom someone is open for a wide open 3. However, running a normal offense that utilizes screens and dribbling is rarely effective unless there is a mistake by the d or some truly amazing skill from the opposing player.
As a Louisville fan i know Bellarmine very well. I aslo think you should look at another small team from Kentucky, the Eastern Kentucky Colonles. They are one of the best offenses in the country. One of the fastest tempos and paces in the country. As well as a great defense that press the whole 40 minutes.
This would be a fun system to play in. Everyone is involved and their combined high IQ play is what gives the team success. Its such a contrast to the modern basketball style of 1 player with the ball and 3 guys stand there waiting for a pass. Here everyone is the assist man and the scorer. Any play could be your chance to help out. Thats just beautiful basketball.
As a fan of the old UCLA high post motion offense, I am 1000% on board with Bellarmine. It is so nice to see such great off ball movement in today's game. Glad someone is bringing it back to the modern game, no matter the level.
Absolutely beautiful. Phrase we use often is "the dribble doesn't change the view for the defense, the pass does." We're not to this extreme, but this is our goal.
As a player (I wasn’t a great scorer, but I was always on the court due to my commitment to defense) I can say that I had a much more difficult time w/ unselfish teams. Passing makes playing defense exhausting! I’ll admit, in moments I’d lose my discipline and cheat. Great passing breaks a defense down physically, yes... but over time-mentally. I was more athletic than most guards I’d cover, but if they passed well as a team, I could be neutralized. I LOVED it when players dribbled... that’s when I could direct them where I wanted them to go and sneak a couple steals.
To be honest, how they work to get the open passes it is also exhausting for the offense ... One thing i like to check out after the video is, if they utilise there bench more then the opponents. n germany there where a few small ball teams, with lots of press defence which did quite well for some time (and they had to use there bench more then the normal team through this tactical approach)
@@christiang5209 So true. With so many cuts and movement off the ball, you exhaust yourself on offense. Whereas with isolation or pick&roll, only 1 or 2 players are spending energy on the offense while the others can rest a bit.
Pure and efficient form of basketball. It's also a great style to teach young players to help them learn how to read the defense and their teammates. Bellarmine makes this look simple, but it's more complicated than it looks. Great job to this coach!
There is a version of this in Soccer called the Tiki Taka. It’s all about pass and move. Keep the ball more then your opponent. Barcelona and Man City are known for this style of play and they have dominated in the last 20 years. It’s beautiful to watch at times and frustrating at other times.
So fun to watch. Doug Moe's Denver Nuggets used to run a passing game like this. They were my favorite team to watch back in the day. Never won a ring, but always solid competitive competit
They are playing fundamentally advance basketball a lot of teams just rely on a few players but this team gets every player involved amazing vision team
An offense that has lots of passes, ball and player movement than dribbles, the least amount of ball screens, and also a read and react offense. Imagine Steve Kerr watching this video.
@@ciamciaramcia99 The Warriors run more ball screens than Bellarmine but compared to the rest of the NBA they are on the lower end. They also run more off ball screens than Bellarmine does though just based off these clips.
I looked it up and noticed that no one even has more than 4 assists per game this season. Everyone gets touches to be able to pass the ball. Truly the definition of Spurs basketball. I couldn’t even how mind numbing going against a offense like this especially with how much IQ those players have. Boring style of play, sure, but effective, hell yeah
Brilliant. I watch teams programs all the time tyring to deny the ball the entire game on defense. ROI often not there if you don't have the right personnel resulting in among other things, iso play, poor passes, court vision, no movement. But, constant passing becomes a way to apply non stop pressure to the opponent.
And now they’re conference tournament champs-and NCAA Tournament participants in the hearts of everybody who understands how pointless the 5-year tournament ban for new D1 teams is
I love this! We tried this my junior year of high school the final year before our coach had to retire with health issues. I think we called it Flex? It was constant movement and cutting, but the amount of times the lane or baseline ended up wide open from drawing the defense out was so satisfying.
This is just about identical to "The Wheel" my high school ran. Never thought of how little we dribbled in the half court until now... Crazy hard to defend even when you know what's coming. We played against "The Wheel" my senior year (after a coaching change we switched offenses and were nowhere near as good) and still lost... :( When I coached high school we installed "The Wheel" and basked in all it's glory as we raked in the W's!
This is my Alma Mater. The DII championship was incredible to experience as a student of a small school. Lucky to be there during that time. Scott Davenport is an amazing person and an incredible coach
This isn’t too far away from how the warriors play at times. Lots of offball screens leading to great pass opportunities and stressing the defense out constantly.
@@Avogadros_number true. Steph dribbles a ton sometimes and uses draymond pick and roll as well. I just mentioned this because I think this type of system is viable at all levels of basketball.
@@reginaldwilliams3681 The Spurs used something similar to beat the Heat in the Finals the last time they won the Title. There are lots of youtube vids showing off all the passing and how it wore down the Heat players. Beautiful basketball
This is ultimate frisbee! Know your space, create space for others, cut towards the handler to get a safe pass, get behind them if they're in pressure to dump.
This guy watched "Hoosiers" and took it to heart. Love watching this style of play, but the whole team has to buy into it. It's not for every team, but it's a thing of beauty when it works like this.
@@icemancometh1188 You have to pair quick passes with zone penetration. If nobody is driving to the middle of a zone, then you don’t get the elaborate defensive shifts that are needed for open looks.
@@icemancometh1188 In high school we dribbled less when we played zone, and passed more. So I agree with you. But that was just suburban high school so IDK how it translates to the college scene.
@@icemancometh1188 , quick passes alone don't beat a zone. You also have to draw defenders to the edge of their coverage areas by using judicious dribbles so that, when the ball is moved, the defenders' distances are too far to recover to their next defensive position in time. On-the-ball screens against perimeter defenders also accomplish drawing perimeter zone defenders to the edge of their coverage areas. .
This takes a lot of unselfishness and buy in from the whole team. A lot of sacrifices so that the team can succeed rather than the individual. Great video
I assume every player on that team knows they are not extraordinarily talented and they know what to expect when they join the team. They just want to play basketball and win as much as they can.
This is beautiful team centric textbook basketball and I love it. A form of the way basketball should be played rather than just one guy trying to crossover alone or taking 3s all day.
Only thing it works best with the 35 sec shot clock. If you notice the shot clock all the half court offense starts at 24 seconds. In the NBA if you subtract the time it takes to bring the ball up. There is about 16-18 seconds left to run a half court offense which gives a team less time to probe a defense with just only passes. Eventually you’ll need someone to make a play. That is why Durant/Lebron and many others are considered the best because those guys are rare.
All the cuts will end up moving them around and someone will end up getting a good look, a bunch of the examples in the video the defense started as a zone
Zone doesn't just sit still. If the ball is skipped the defense must shift towards the ball, the up top defenders will drastically shift. Off ball cutters will still pull backcourt defenders in zone. If you played ball at even a middle school level you would understand
I've seen a team blow their opponents OUT with this offense and the bad part is... they were down 2 players (3 on 5). They only played so they wouldn't have to forefit. 😳
Great breakdown of their offense. Props to this team for their discipline and teamwork. It's refreshing to see a team move the ball without having to put it on the floor. So many players today want to show off and break ankles but they actually slow the offense down with all the dribbling. This reminds me of Klay Thompson scoring 60 points with only 11 dribbles.
@@hoopvision68 In regards to the scaled up numbers compared to nba teams. Did you account for the increased shot clock. Because it seems like Bellermaine will use much more of the shot clock than most nba teams which will result in similar or greater time of possession even in a shorter game.
@@moto2442 Right. So that's the reason why I scaled it to passes per 48 minutes instead of passes per possession. That way we are comparing apples to apples. NCAA possessions are longer because of the shot clock, but there are fewer possessions per minute as a result (so it evens out)
This is some of the most beautiful team-centric basketball I've ever seen.
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This reminds me of the Classic Celtics and Lakers in the 1970s.
Which is why Ben Simmons isn't thriving in Philly, this style of ball is what's mainly played overseas and players faults are hidden from value Isaiah Thomas would benefit from this too.
This is dumb
The beauty of this system is it’s a modern take on the original play style of the game. Watching this footage almost looks like vintage basketball play.
Looks boring asf
@@Avogadros_number I can admit it’s not show stopping, but it’s effective as hell. It’s the same idea as the early 00’s Spurs, boring to watch but consistent title contenders.
@@coolblack1 bellarmine is literally garbage so idk how u call it effective
@@Avogadros_number actually not,this system is pretty much the same with how 14 spurs system and current GSW and heat plays but its not perfect
More passing mean more turnover especially against good defense. This strategy is possible because the defender at this level dont have the length and instinct to distrupt the passing lanes. Imagine playing this type of games against jimmy,kawhi,giannis or the entire raptors team that can distrupt the passing lane without leaving their marked man
Also this level of communication isnt possible without perfect chemistry of the entire team and the only 2 team to pull of this kind of play to championship is just GSW and spurs
@@bigman8477 It was good enough to move them from a D2 to a D1 team and they finished second in their conference last year.
I'm more impressed by the fact that these players are willing to put aside individualism for the better of the team, quite rare
Probably have a one on one with coach before they enter the program...they know what the deal is
@@a-t5380 More importantly, they have one on one with the current players. That allows both the recruit and the players to provide input about how the recruit might fit in.
yeah but i think it will hurt them if they tryna go to the league tho. this style of play allows no one to shine except the coach.
@@rjnsg2953 then the player can go play for another team
@@rjnsg2953 there's 100s of college programs, most college athletes know they aren't going pro
What I find most interesting about this system is that it fixes the problem of not being able to recruit head to head against the big teams by not trying to compete for the same type of player. By creating a very different system they've increased the quality of their recruitment pool by emphasizing different traits.
This... This is what all the other comments are missing. Most teams are looking for the the absolutely most talented players they can recruit... the biggest, the quickest, the best shooters and rebounders. Obviously the majors are going to attract the best talent, and they can afford play traditional basketball using their extreme (and deep) talent pool. The smaller schools have to find a way to be different if they want to win consistently.
My first two years of college basketball was with a JUCO with all white guys. As you can imagine, the vast majority were slow. Our superpower was shooting, but how do you ever get a shot off when your defenders are so much quicker? Screen, after screen, after screen. That was how we played. Probably not as intensely or as disciplined as Bellarmine, but we made it work with a bunch of unathletic, slow, shooters. It worked for us, too. We went 25-7 on the season and 13-1 at home. We either pounded them inside with our bigs or punished them with excessive 3-point shooting. But multiple screens are where it all started.
that’s a great point Julian. I didn’t think about that.
Thats the same basic principal behind moneyball. When the Oakland A’s were a small market team trying to compete with big spenders like the New York Yankees, they emphasized different skills (namely, on base percentage) and saw value in players that other teams passed up, because those other teams weren’t looking at the right qualities.
It’s kind of like football teams that run the Wing T or Flexbone. Pro style offenses only work if you have big and offensive lineman and have a qb that can make throws. Wing T uses angles and misdirection to make a less talented offensive line more competitive.
@IQFSanAntonio Thank you for that comment. Love hearing abt your basketball experience lol
I remember this video being the catalyst to keeping tabs on how Bellarmine did this year, and now they’re ASUN tournament champs. It’s too bad they can’t go dancing this year due to the lame NCAA rules, but it’s still awesome to see such a unique style of basketball like Bellarmine be so successful
What rules kept them out?
There’s a D2 to D1 transition period of 4 years. Happened when my school made that leap a while ago
@@calebderavil7464 that seems backwards. If anything they’re already at a disadvantage
@@morganewing304 it’s really is, considering that for 4 years the players they recruit know they won’t be able to make the NCAA tournament. Bellarmine has petitioned to the NCAA to reduce the probation period from 4 years to 2, which is a step in the right direction. The only reason that rule has been in place is to discourage D2 teams from making the transition to D1 too soon, so I don’t think it’ll be phased out entirely anytime soon
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“The goal is not to move the ball, but to move the opposition.”
- Pep Guardiola
This playstyle is actually very similar to Guardiola's on football
Never thought I would see pep mentioned in a college basketball video
The fastest player on the team? The ball. So cool.
@@HBIsBlessed Walai! Never thought so!.
My first thought was, this is a basketball version of tiki taka.
This was a great video
Awesome content, you should make a video on them
Yes better than urs
This information COULD quite LITERALLY BREAK the NBA
@@ifheavenwashuman ur under 18 dont talk to me little baby
This guy is you with a 40 inch vertical.
I've been playing pickup basketball with the same group of guys now for a little over 20 years. As we got slower, we adopted this style of play against younger players. We can pass faster than they can run. We win about 80% of the time.
That's pretty cool, you guys took a page from the greats. the reason a lot of HOF players had to change up their game as their athleticism started to decline
you're lying I saw you and ur granny at the YMCA getting canned
@@MrGoddlie came outta nowhere 💀💀
I used to run and screen and cut and run and screen and cut ... it is a young person's style. As you grow older you can do it, only with "the same group of guys" because you know exactly where each of you will move towards (the word running is not usually associated with what we do past some age ahaha)
Damn bruh I wish I was like you. It would be a honour to play with my peers for 20 years.
This is beautiful basketball. Just absolutely beautiful team basketball. If there was an NBA team that played like this I would watch them every game. The closest thing I can think of are the 2010-2016 Spurs teams.
This won't work in the NBA
@@blowc1612 you build the right team i think it could. a lot of teams play hero ball and as great as some players are it makes the game predictable in some stretches where in this offense you’re in constant conflict instead of knowing who’s going to have the ball/taking the shot
haha golden state plays like this
@bLoWc16 It won't work at D1, either.
Oh, wait.
@@timandmonica you do understand that's still college..the NBA has ELITE college level talent AS BENCH WARMERS 🤣 this doesn't work in the NBA because I higher BIQ players that can anticipate the pass and are quicker to be able to disrupt the passing lane. There's a reason why you don't see this ridiculous amount of passing, since it would be a TO. In the NBA excessive passing LEADS TO TO.
That last play where they have the guard make the Iverson cut and the other guard sets multiple screens is INSANE. Genuinely genius. I love how fluid their offense looks. So smooth man.
this is a larry bird system. This is how he literally he played, how he scored and passed the ball. He didn't dribble the ball too much. He never held the ball for more than 3 seconds and moved without the ball consistently. Unbelievable
Okay. But does this system work (with the right players, assuming) ? I mean, compared to the Duke, Kentucky, Gonzaga schemes? We know that most of the top College football teams, follow the Nick Saban "sytle" of "pro style, RPO" scheme. I just wondered if this style of play is successful at the top levels of college.
Good Question, High Level I.Q., Athleticism, and overall talent would only make this system harder to guard.
Not sure what you are talking about Larry was ball dominating player and often dripping
@@Averagegamer2023 you really never watched bird play just his scoring highlights
@@chikushodiz91 let him think what he wants 😂😂
This system is genius. Ironic how an old school system is still affective in the modern game.
Exactly! Same thing I always think about Mugsy Boges. Every team should have 1 player under 5'7" just to throw him in and disrupt plays. Crazy that nobody has done it since. When you have every player used to playing guys 6'4 and up having a wild card like that would completely change the game.
effective*
Old heads smiling in their seats right now👴🏾
Not ironic, it makes perfect sense. It’s all about exploiting the opponents weakness and that weakness just happens to be defense. This system eats the clock so it gives your opponent less time to play offense. Pretty simple.
@@ispartacus1337 As if players like Mugsy Boges are a dime a dozen lol that dude was exceptional for his height. That's like saying "why don't teams just find guys that can do Kareem's hook shot?" ... Earl Boykins was barely taller than Boges and had a long NBA career in the modern era, but these guys are extremely rare.
This is beautiful basketball: very team oriented, unselfish, lots of court awareness. So much more fun to watch than the penetrate and pass out for 3 point shot or pound it in to the post play.
Yea, I had to deal with that in high school and it INFURIATED me. People, players, and even coaches, frankly don't realize how much more fun and effective it is to move the ball quickly down the court and find the quickest way to score. It's way quicker to score when you move the ball quick and dribble as little as needed.
Agreed.
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Man, can't imagine if this style use in NBA now. Rather than giving to star player and ISO.
Boring trash play.
Beautiful basketball. In the NBA and your higher level NCAA Men's team can overcome this with pure athleticism and length but I am surprised many Women's college team and WNBA teams are not doing this.
They'd rather force and airball contested layups and finish games with a 40-30 score, then complain that they don't get paid as much as men.
isnt D1 highest level college basket ball (im a hockey guy)
@@bipity-bob it is. By higher level I meant elite teams like Duke, North Carolina, Kentucky, UCLA, etc.
Look up Netball, which is its own sport. Mostly women though, kind of like softball is to baseball. I don't now why the WNBA even exists.
@@poppinc8145 😂😂😂 only the US considers softball a woman's sport. Secondly, no one considers netball as basketball for women.
I'm a Saint Mary's fan and watched the game we played against Bellarmine this past year. I came away very impressed with their crisp passing and calculated cutting. Their offense was complex and they ran it very well. Our length bothered them but it was definitely a closer game than anyone on our side anticipated. Fun team to watch.
This will not only exhaust the defense physically, but also mentally. It's hard trying to keep track of the ball when it's always moving, and if you can't do it consistently, not only will your opponent score, but you will start to feel defeated before the game is even in the 4th quarter.
That and people get sloppy on defense with more and more passes. Off ball movement is a hidden gem in winning championships and if everyone is moving while the ball is moved to everyone, no defender can slack but they also can’t watch the ball while watching their man. I would hate to play against that style of basketball
@@eli6797 yeah I love to play defense and it makes it so much easier when people dribble and screen cause it mkaes it a lot easier to match up with the player. As soon as heavy passing starts it gets a lot more difficult because just like in sports like soccer it makes it easier for someone to lose a player as it increases off the ball movement
agree mrs mccarthy
How do you feel about having more homosexuals. In college basketball? You support anal stretching before games.
And if you're working hard to track your matchup, but your teammate loses their's, I'm sure that can feel frustrating
This reminds me of a line from Moneyball. “If we try to play like the Yankees in here, we will lose to the Yankees out there.” Playing the game how you want is better than trying to keep up with more individually talented players at their own game.
Spitting
That’s what analytics are at the end of the day are used for, maximizing the skill set of your players
They aint gonna win shit tho, same as Athletics. Just more useless analytic bullshit, looks good but is total crap as the end product.
@@13floss Did you miss the bit at the start of the video where it showed how they've been winning more since this coach started? This works. Does it work as well as being a big-time program with gigantic resources and the most talented players in the country? Of course not but he is maximising the quality of players he has which is the very definition of good coaching.
@@kgill99 I’ll say this: my university just played Bellarmine tonight and I was at the game. They were the most active opponent Jacksonville State had faced all year and kept them on their P’s and Q’s. It was amazing watching the cuts and passes, the SID department I work for were joking about count dribbles in the game. We got the win but it was close, and there was almost a fight after the game. Can’t wait to play them again!
Coach is a Hoop God…..simple science…the ball can move faster than a defender..bonus the defender wears down having to constantly be in chase mode….brilliant
@TheMrCaptainStfu but it’s more confusing on the defensive, I’m pretty sure the offense knows the plays like the back of their hand to pull it off that well, making it like muscle memory eventually to where your just running to your individual spot like a dance team, so no one person is doing to much or has to think too hard, while the defense is on a wild goose chase looking for the ball
@TheMrCaptainStfu yeah but this team is obviously built for cardio. Just like West Virginia with the full court press. Other teams usually can't keep up
@TheMrCaptainStfu they used to beat good teams
@TheMrCaptainStfu it’s take more of a toll to be reactionary rather than knowing what’s coming. Think about it like a high paced football offense. The defense is always more gassed than the offense
@TheMrCaptainStfu they do have an edge because they know what play they’re running and the defense doesn’t 😂. It takes more of a toll mentally and physically to play defense
Great job with the graphics, and the timing of doing repetitive replays. This was much easier to follow than a normal analytical basketball video
Riley Wallace, coach of Univ of Hawai'i 1987-2007, ran this style of play. It was fun to watch and allowed our under-recruited players to compete night in and night out. More easy baskets as most are at the rim.
It was so cool to see them finally move up to D1...and actually play well
@Honest Fan did you expect a transitioning D-2 school to be elite ?
@@MrPreds10 no but bro said they’re playing well, which obviously they are not compared to the competition
@@MrPreds10 also keep in mind, they’re 3-6 currently, and two of their wins are off D3 schools
@@kookthekid8338 They were great before this season. 2 years of very smooth transition to D1.
@@kookthekid8338 keep in mind their losses are to teams that are staples of the tournament. #1 Gonzaga, #2 UCLA , #7 Purdue , Murray State, West Virginia, and Saint Mary’s.
That’s a tough non conference schedule.
This is such a fun style to watch and play. When I was a kid, my father, a great college basketball player from the 50s, would have us practice moving the ball without dribbling. Once we stopped complaining about not being able to dribble we had so much fun totally dismantling our opponents for easy layups.
this is not a fun way to play. its a dumb way to play
@@TheHubeef To each his own, I guess. If you think it's fun to play with guys who just ball hog and then cast from 25 ft all game because they all think they're Kobe, then OK, whatever. But if you like to win as a team, it's fun to move the ball around and get the open shot while the dudes on defense are getting gassed running around trying to keep up. Everyone gets touches, everyone scores. It's all good.
In 1986, College NCAA I was starting varsity as a freshman for a Nationally ranked team, coming from NJ 2 Time All Star Ledger 1st Team All Everything, which is BIG SHIT in NJ. Played for a nationally ranked team in high school and college. This Coach WOULD NOT ALLOW A PLAYER TO JUMP OFF ONE FOOT for a lay up. IT SUCKED PLAYING THAT WAY. My basketball resume is BIG! I play like Kyrie Irving and Dr J with a Devin Booker Steph Curry shot and game IQ. I transferred away from the non lay up coach and had a blast again jumping off my left and / or right foot to slam and jam and pass and play. You can play on THAT only passing team and pretend you are a real player when you are not really. Take one dribble to your left or right after a good ball fake and shoot vs ONLY passing you dumby ;) I had another coach that refused to talk, communicate, or make eye contact with any referee. To make a long story, short, we went 25 and 4 and would have won the Group 4 states if our coach had half a brain. You can play pass only and I will be having more fun, playing better, and WINNING! No NBA team has ever even done that for even one possession. GIVE IT UP you basketball non players on pretending that passing is not a thing.
@@Worm537 "I play like Kyrie Irving and Dr J with a Devin Booker Steph Curry shot and game IQ" 🤣🤣🤣
I've been to one NBA game in the past 5 years and 40% of the game was people faking a foul and taking free throws. Not sure why anyone watches it anymore.
It's hard for me to adequately express how much I love this video.
I was coached to play basketball in a similar way, with a pass first--screen away--look for the open cutter, back cuts type of offense.
When bball is played this way, it's like a beautiful symphony, poetry in motion. I love this so much.
This made literally made me laugh out in pure joy as I watched this team basketball in action.
I'm now a BIG fan of the Bellarmine Knights!
Anyone with hands will snatch a pass.
M2M litterally destroys this strat.
Regardless of what they say, the players are still cutting, theyre just not screening.
Its litterally like white kids never learned how to dribble, but they all own hoops.
If they had half the team swinging and the other half screening and cutting they would be a menacing team, because they lack ego, and hold awareness.
This was only a practice drill when I played. Our coach had two die and whatever they landed on, that’s how many times we had to pass it before we could shoot. We weren’t allowed to dribble either. When we got the ball, we’d have to stay where we were and wait for our teammates to get open. Taught us about passing, cutting, and when you were on defense, taught us about man on man.
Oh, teams thought that when our coach yelled a number out that it was the play we were running, but it was how many passes we needed to make before shooting. If we shot before then, we came out of the game, even if it were wide open.
Great video, thanks. I watched Murray State beat Bellarmine by almost 20 early this season. (it was close at half time).
I immediately noticed Bellarmine's unique style of offense. I also noticed they struggle a bit on defense and they turn the ball over. A LOT.
To be fair, Murray St is having a great year and are tops in their conference, so that played a part.
It seems like an offensive system that if they start falling behind they have a tought time coming back.
Yeah, I’m not surprised at the turnovers. All that passing increases the chances that one would be loose.
This offense is almost exactly what my dad coached when I was playing youth basketball. Circa 1972.
We won a lot.
But did you have the gays on your team.
@@davidcook680 What does that have to do with anything?
@@MichaelPiz he must really have something against gays perhaps he’s religious
This just pushes the idea of positionless basketball forward, I love it
You still need some size though cause well the basket is 10 feet in the air.
??? Some of these are run through the 5 and others the guards
I cannot explain how much I love this
Try!
It's a very smart strategy. Like anything it will be figured out but knowing when to go to this with certain personnel, match ups etc. and being an expert in refining it's execution brings a more mental chess aspect/high basketball IQ/feel requirement to the game. Love it. Poetry in motion.
Love it man! My high school coach was cut from the same cloth. Super old school game. High ball movement, low scoring. Our practices had a 5-10 pass minimum per play before even attempting a shot.
We unfortunately didn't have the personnel to pull it off. We kinda just did what we wanted during games and lost a lot 🤦🏿♂️ this is my first time seeing this type of play in modern basketball. Take note, it works extremely well.
The editing and graphics on this video make this system so clear that I'm easily understanding the Xs & Os like I never have before. You did an amazing job with this video and I can't wait to watch more. And wow is Bellarmine fun to watch!
As an European who's been watching other sports and never really watched basketball before last year, i always found it weird how little passes there are. But this looks a lot like how you play handball, pass around the perimeter until there is a crack in the wall and attack it. Pretty dope looking
This is how we taught to play basketball in Europe in the early/mid 2000s. Constant rotation and screens + 1 dribble layups/shots, very little driving.
Reminds me of Netball too with less bounce passes
@@j0kersmoker i know drills like this system, but also the game at least in germany was different to this in the early and mid '2000s' on the amateur level i know and especially on the pro level. I would have say it was a lot more pick and roll/pop + and i different to today postup but not from the guards like here. i guess mids 00 rattelsdorf, crailsheim and göttingen made noises implementing the guard terror scheme which also plays with very small lineups but a totally different offensiv approach (very fast shots) and lots of press defence ... Not so common, but very new and good results for the 'money'. Göttingen even made it to the bbl and etablished then there.
in Europe players are able to stand in 3 second box as much as they want, so many of those cuts would be close with zone defence, so this won't be that easy in Europe to do this
@@vykintaspliavga5187 It would still work perfectly fine against a zone with a few adjustments: more 3pts, more mid-range open shots, less open layups
I’m from Louisville, KY. I went to Bellarmine college for training camp back in HS & this is in fact what they do. This is practically what they teach you during drills as well, as a HS player.
Having looked into the 1-4 high UCLA offense recently, I can see some inspiration from the wing series in Bellarmine’s main offensive series, with the way they run their scissor action being equatable to the post sprint down and back screen for a lob over the top
This more like the offense that Wooden used at UCLA during its dominance.
This is what James Naismith envisioned when he invented the sport. Just beautiful basketball
Who told you that?
This also seems like a good way to mitigate having 'less talented' individual players (relative to 1&done programs with pre-NBA players).
Great point
Not really. Running a better system that is superior you always get an advantage. The more talented the players running the superior system the more you win by.
@@johntallanger4036 Change "Not rely" to "To add to your point"
@@Marclouispierre No. "Not really" is correct.
If you're viewing running this kind of offense as a talent mitigation strategy then the point has been missed.
@@johntallanger4036 ✅ I read that wrong.
You should make a video of why certain extreme offenses in college would or would not be effective in the NBA.
I’d say the main reason is that nba rotations don’t run nearly as deep and the gap between a superstar and a role player is bigger than in college. Schemes like this wouldn’t allow your star to create offense for others
Having adult profrssionald play 70+ games makes a lot of strategies hard.
@@Rohan_Mehtain many cases I agree. But imagine joker running point from the foul line on those actions.
because its too risky for high major program coaches or nba coaches because if they have one bad season doing this you get canned immediately.
It’s only because NBA guys won’t buy into being unselfish at all times. You can barely get 90% to contest a layup let alone pass up the first open 30 footer they see
In my 25 yeaars of coaching, I have always practiced my offense without dribbling. If the ball hit the floor, it was a turnover. Forced my players to learn how to cut, move, screen and never stand still. Also forced us defensively to play harder, stay with guys, not get back-doored and able to withstand long defensive possessions. Works like a charm, especially if you have shooters and finishers. All these players now want to dribble the life out of the ball, and they don't need to.
That’s awesome!
I appreciate your insight, that's fascinating
I am guessing you just need tall players then.
I used to do no dribbling In parts of scrimmages in practice with my team all the time
this popped up into my feed, im a Bellarmine alum, was really cool to watch, thanks for covering this!
So good! Haven't seen another team do this since Ralph Miller's OSU......the true workings of this system keeps everyone's focus on high speed. Also makes it fun, and fun to watch.
Passing and cutting is the most beautiful way to enjoy (playing or watching) any team, ball sport. Everyone is engaged in each possession. They make it look so easy! But anyone who has actually played knows this requires a lot of focus, practice and team chemistry to execute the system to perfection
we see so much iso scoring these days old style looks nice to watch now. maybe people will appreciate wilt/bill/west/baylor etc after all lol.
@@triptychlux the reason we see so much is because people tryna go to the league play like this wont get u there.
@@rjnsg2953 it works at college level it doesn't need to be applied in nba imo
@@triptychlux I think what RSG is saying is that NBA hopeful college players wouldn’t want to play in this system because they can’t showcase themselves in this type of offense.
Not to mention stamina.
That teamwork brings tears to my eyes it’s a beautiful sight.
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We played against a team that played like this. That was the MOST tired that I had ever been with time still left on the clock.. Everyone's energy was on -10% and we still had 4 minutes left to play in the game.
I rarely watch basketball. But this is amazing, it really makes me appreciate the beauty of coaching and an effective game plan. Great breakdown
People who say this is boring to watch, well I won't say you're wrong, but I find this way more beautiful and entertaining than what's being played in the NBA these days. Shows a lot of team play and rewards unselfishness. Also, it's great to watch them adjust their offense when their main play is a no go. They adjust by changing the passing rather that trying to do a flashy individual play. Great to watch.
I know I’m not the only one trying desperately to incorporate this in nba2k 😂😂
LMAO
is it working
@@victor-nk9eh play wise, the scissors concept is, I just have to tinker with the tendencies
Good luck trying this with random players.
I'd love to see some "scissor action" as well
This coach is a Legend . Efficiency unheard of. Hands down. 💯
This is dope! My cousin played for them for 4 years, he loved playing for Coach Davenport! He ended up leading Division II (They were D2 at the time) in scoring once or twice and was a two time All American. Scotty definitely utilized Rusty’s shooting ability and willingness to move without the ball as good as any coach could’ve. He lit up Indiana and Louisville a couple of times.
I remember him he was a killer bro. I’m a Louisville fan lol
Troutman?! Loved that guy!
it makes perfect sense too. I am a Texas Tech fan who is well known for having an amazing Defense as they originated the "no middle" d. One thing I have always noticed is when a team gets into a passing rhythm they can manipulate the fast pace movement of the Tech defense then boom someone is open for a wide open 3. However, running a normal offense that utilizes screens and dribbling is rarely effective unless there is a mistake by the d or some truly amazing skill from the opposing player.
Bellarmine just won the ASUN conference tournament in just there 2nd season as a D1 team 😮
As a Louisville fan i know Bellarmine very well. I aslo think you should look at another small team from Kentucky, the Eastern Kentucky Colonles. They are one of the best offenses in the country. One of the fastest tempos and paces in the country. As well as a great defense that press the whole 40 minutes.
L1C4!
What's even better, how Louisville is the 4th-5th best team in the state
This would be a fun system to play in. Everyone is involved and their combined high IQ play is what gives the team success. Its such a contrast to the modern basketball style of 1 player with the ball and 3 guys stand there waiting for a pass. Here everyone is the assist man and the scorer. Any play could be your chance to help out. Thats just beautiful basketball.
Sounds like Guardiolas Barca
As a fan of the old UCLA high post motion offense, I am 1000% on board with Bellarmine. It is so nice to see such great off ball movement in today's game. Glad someone is bringing it back to the modern game, no matter the level.
Who’s here after Bellarmine won the ASUN
Absolutely beautiful.
Phrase we use often is "the dribble doesn't change the view for the defense, the pass does." We're not to this extreme, but this is our goal.
As a player (I wasn’t a great scorer, but I was always on the court due to my commitment to defense) I can say that I had a much more difficult time w/ unselfish teams. Passing makes playing defense exhausting! I’ll admit, in moments I’d lose my discipline and cheat. Great passing breaks a defense down physically, yes... but over time-mentally. I was more athletic than most guards I’d cover, but if they passed well as a team, I could be neutralized. I LOVED it when players dribbled... that’s when I could direct them where I wanted them to go and sneak a couple steals.
To be honest, how they work to get the open passes it is also exhausting for the offense ... One thing i like to check out after the video is, if they utilise there bench more then the opponents. n germany there where a few small ball teams, with lots of press defence which did quite well for some time (and they had to use there bench more then the normal team through this tactical approach)
@@christiang5209 So true. With so many cuts and movement off the ball, you exhaust yourself on offense. Whereas with isolation or pick&roll, only 1 or 2 players are spending energy on the offense while the others can rest a bit.
Pure and efficient form of basketball. It's also a great style to teach young players to help them learn how to read the defense and their teammates. Bellarmine makes this look simple, but it's more complicated than it looks. Great job to this coach!
There is a version of this in Soccer called the Tiki Taka. It’s all about pass and move. Keep the ball more then your opponent. Barcelona and Man City are known for this style of play and they have dominated in the last 20 years. It’s beautiful to watch at times and frustrating at other times.
So fun to watch. Doug Moe's Denver Nuggets used to run a passing game like this. They were my favorite team to watch back in the day. Never won a ring, but always solid competitive competit
They are playing fundamentally advance basketball a lot of teams just rely on a few players but this team gets every player involved amazing vision team
An offense that has lots of passes, ball and player movement than dribbles, the least amount of ball screens, and also a read and react offense. Imagine Steve Kerr watching this video.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure Kerr's GSW style includes plenty of ball screens.
@@ciamciaramcia99 The Warriors run more ball screens than Bellarmine but compared to the rest of the NBA they are on the lower end. They also run more off ball screens than Bellarmine does though just based off these clips.
I don't think Steve Kerr has to watch this video to know about the option to play this way lmfaoo
I always learn so much with these videos, love these new concepts you show
6:12 to get to the beautiful passing clips.
The term "pressing on offense" is genius
I looked it up and noticed that no one even has more than 4 assists per game this season. Everyone gets touches to be able to pass the ball. Truly the definition of Spurs basketball. I couldn’t even how mind numbing going against a offense like this especially with how much IQ those players have. Boring style of play, sure, but effective, hell yeah
Boring? I find it fun as hell to watch. So much movement.
Walvini
@@ghmongo same
Pasta man
Warriors kinda do the same thing
That is definitely a great way to create solid team adhesion. I like how they took something so fundamental and refined it. Great video!
Brilliant. I watch teams programs all the time tyring to deny the ball the entire game on defense. ROI often not there if you don't have the right personnel resulting in among other things, iso play, poor passes, court vision, no movement. But, constant passing becomes a way to apply non stop pressure to the opponent.
Getting all players involved is always a good thing than relying on 2 players per play. Idle players get sloppy and allowing the defense to rest.
And now they’re conference tournament champs-and NCAA Tournament participants in the hearts of everybody who understands how pointless the 5-year tournament ban for new D1 teams is
I like this style of play basketball, i really enjoy what how they move as just one organism
I love this! We tried this my junior year of high school the final year before our coach had to retire with health issues. I think we called it Flex? It was constant movement and cutting, but the amount of times the lane or baseline ended up wide open from drawing the defense out was so satisfying.
This is just about identical to "The Wheel" my high school ran. Never thought of how little we dribbled in the half court until now...
Crazy hard to defend even when you know what's coming. We played against "The Wheel" my senior year (after a coaching change we switched offenses and were nowhere near as good) and still lost... :(
When I coached high school we installed "The Wheel" and basked in all it's glory as we raked in the W's!
This is my Alma Mater. The DII championship was incredible to experience as a student of a small school. Lucky to be there during that time. Scott Davenport is an amazing person and an incredible coach
Kudos to the coach and players for making this beautiful basketball. I stopped watching NBA 15 years ago ...
AWESOME! I truly hope this coach wins a title and transforms the game the way it was meant to be played....AS A TEAM!!!
This isn’t too far away from how the warriors play at times. Lots of offball screens leading to great pass opportunities and stressing the defense out constantly.
yeah true it's hard for defenses to keep up with everyone constantly moving and the move flying around the court
Yeah but they switch it up. They don’t do this every single possession
@@Avogadros_number true. Steph dribbles a ton sometimes and uses draymond pick and roll as well. I just mentioned this because I think this type of system is viable at all levels of basketball.
mostly reminds me of some Triangle offense concepts and i see tons of the 2013-2017 Spurs in the other action.
@@reginaldwilliams3681 The Spurs used something similar to beat the Heat in the Finals the last time they won the Title. There are lots of youtube vids showing off all the passing and how it wore down the Heat players. Beautiful basketball
Basketball in its purest form. I wish more teams played like this...especially in the NBA.
Awesome basketball. Nice on the eyes to watch also. Its like hearing Mozart but seeing an orchestration play out through bball. Love this style!
I'm literally in awe!!
As a coach that was cool to see. I'm going to use some of this!
It’s the definition of “team basketball”
I loved your collaboration with Ben Taylor (Thinking Basketball)! Love your style of analysis and hope you grow!
This is ultimate frisbee! Know your space, create space for others, cut towards the handler to get a safe pass, get behind them if they're in pressure to dump.
It’s beautiful style of basketball! I could watch this all day
i had a basketball coach who sometimes let us play likethis in practice games to teach us to be better passing. It was lots of fun.
Amazing video, I haven’t coached in 3 years but this got the juices flowing. Lol
0:46 Man, we can't ever count out Team, that college basketball powerhouse.
Thanks for your time and effort to explain this in detail! Great review of the offense!
I love it..... This a. Real Coach. I'm so sick of these One man teams and Ball hogs. Much Respect.
This guy watched "Hoosiers" and took it to heart. Love watching this style of play, but the whole team has to buy into it. It's not for every team, but it's a thing of beauty when it works like this.
If a player doesn't buy in, he won't play. Pretty simple stuff. The coach and system is the authority for the program
That was cool, but nearly every team played them man/man. It would be interesting to see a large sample size against the zone defense.
Quick passes is how you beat a zone so I imagine they would be very successfull against it
@@icemancometh1188 You have to pair quick passes with zone penetration. If nobody is driving to the middle of a zone, then you don’t get the elaborate defensive shifts that are needed for open looks.
@@polkcountyboxbreaks well yeah but you don't really have to dribble to penetrate the zone
@@icemancometh1188 In high school we dribbled less when we played zone, and passed more. So I agree with you. But that was just suburban high school so IDK how it translates to the college scene.
@@icemancometh1188 , quick passes alone don't beat a zone. You also have to draw defenders to the edge of their coverage areas by using judicious dribbles so that, when the ball is moved, the defenders' distances are too far to recover to their next defensive position in time. On-the-ball screens against perimeter defenders also accomplish drawing perimeter zone defenders to the edge of their coverage areas.
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This takes a lot of unselfishness and buy in from the whole team. A lot of sacrifices so that the team can succeed rather than the individual. Great video
I assume every player on that team knows they are not extraordinarily talented and they know what to expect when they join the team. They just want to play basketball and win as much as they can.
This is beautiful team centric textbook basketball and I love it. A form of the way basketball should be played rather than just one guy trying to crossover alone or taking 3s all day.
Only thing it works best with the 35 sec shot clock. If you notice the shot clock all the half court offense starts at 24 seconds. In the NBA if you subtract the time it takes to bring the ball up. There is about 16-18 seconds left to run a half court offense which gives a team less time to probe a defense with just only passes. Eventually you’ll need someone to make a play. That is why Durant/Lebron and many others are considered the best because those guys are rare.
Refining and mastering the fundamentals breeds champions in every sport.
What if the defense just played zone..?
All the cuts will end up moving them around and someone will end up getting a good look, a bunch of the examples in the video the defense started as a zone
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Zone doesn't just sit still. If the ball is skipped the defense must shift towards the ball, the up top defenders will drastically shift. Off ball cutters will still pull backcourt defenders in zone. If you played ball at even a middle school level you would understand
Lol they’d give up 80% from the field
I've seen a team blow their opponents OUT with this offense and the bad part is...
they were down 2 players (3 on 5). They only played so they wouldn't have to forefit. 😳
I thought power play isn't a penalty in basketball, is it?
How good is the offence againts a zone?
this is the best video I've ever seen off this account and Hoop Vision always produces great content lol
Great breakdown of their offense. Props to this team for their discipline and teamwork. It's refreshing to see a team move the ball without having to put it on the floor. So many players today want to show off and break ankles but they actually slow the offense down with all the dribbling. This reminds me of Klay Thompson scoring 60 points with only 11 dribbles.
Does the number of dribbles in a game include the point guard dribbling the ball to the offensive end?
Good question... We didn't include the dribbles or passes completed in the backcourt in any of the totals
@@hoopvision68 In regards to the scaled up numbers compared to nba teams. Did you account for the increased shot clock. Because it seems like Bellermaine will use much more of the shot clock than most nba teams which will result in similar or greater time of possession even in a shorter game.
@@moto2442 Right. So that's the reason why I scaled it to passes per 48 minutes instead of passes per possession. That way we are comparing apples to apples. NCAA possessions are longer because of the shot clock, but there are fewer possessions per minute as a result (so it evens out)
Thanks for asking I was curious
There was a coach in the 1980s who had his players pass it up court rather than dribble. I think it was Ralph Miller.
This seems like it would be God-tier strategy in women’s basketball
Have a look at netball