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  • @CapitalZone
    @CapitalZone  2 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @NeerajGupta-tq6od
    @NeerajGupta-tq6od 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Retail traders: you can watch from 7:00 onward. Before that it is for ALGO trader only.

  • @sivvakumar5617
    @sivvakumar5617 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    In the 15secs if the price moves from 100 to 500 then your algo executes at 500 by getting the latest LTP. Then you are getting more slippage right Jegan.

    • @nokiak4095
      @nokiak4095 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes ihave the same doubt in SLL(algo)...if the pice jump and algo execute at latest trigger which is very high price ,then huge loss....did you got the answer brother ?

    • @sivvakumar5617
      @sivvakumar5617 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nokiak4095 No. He hasn't responded.

    • @nokiak4095
      @nokiak4095 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sivvakumar5617 ok let us ask in next live session

    • @amanikac
      @amanikac 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think after 15 secs if the ltp price variation is too much say more than 20 or 30% better wait for next 5 secs and see

    • @nokiak4095
      @nokiak4095 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@amanikac if the price variation is huge and order stay open without execution ,that could create problem as other orders already executed but one order got delayed....overall spread with much slippages

  • @ca.lakshminarayanreddyjamb4217
    @ca.lakshminarayanreddyjamb4217 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thanks for the detailed explanation. One small suggestion, your whiteboard pen marker is making heavy noise, it distracts the video watching. Especially when we are using headphones.

  • @yubrajbhoi1986
    @yubrajbhoi1986 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    So we just accept that even ATM options will have low liquidity? And how are retailers supposed to provide liquidity with no margin? I guess this is a good time to be an operator.

  • @ckd387
    @ckd387 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Don't show us the solution to manage freak trades..we dnt want to see freaky trades..raise ur voice fr the right

    • @shreyasbhomkar2187
      @shreyasbhomkar2187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He is not going to support, he already tweeted.

    • @ckd387
      @ckd387 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@shreyasbhomkar2187 ohh..toh yehi hai woh 'Chatur' ... badi jaldi famous bann na hai ese

    • @shreyasbhomkar2187
      @shreyasbhomkar2187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ckd387 ha bhai ye hai vo Chatur

    • @Traders.Mindset
      @Traders.Mindset 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      wo pagal ko trading he nhi ata.. ise acha comedy video banade..thoda channl chal jata✌️

    • @Rj-hm7cv
      @Rj-hm7cv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Traders.Mindset 😂

  • @ajaymehta6996
    @ajaymehta6996 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
    Sir,
    Freak trade me mtm loss 80% se jyada show karega to broker position automatically square of kar dega ???
    Sir please reply
    🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @tharmiakuppusamysubramania7890
    @tharmiakuppusamysubramania7890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Last week Bank Nifty 31700 straddle shoot up from Rs.455 to Rs.1921 in split seconds. Lots of retailers' capital is eroded in a split second.
    How to escape from this situation?

  • @Vijaykumar-tw5vp
    @Vijaykumar-tw5vp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thanks for making this video..
    Make a video on NO TRADING DAY on 1st Sep AGAINST THE SEBI NEW RULE..

    • @shreyasbhomkar2187
      @shreyasbhomkar2187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Jegan is not supporting retail traders, check his tweets. This big traders forgot their root. Nevermind I just unsubscribed him, I was great fan of him but his comments related to No Trading Day disappointed me.

  • @SumitWaaleVlogs
    @SumitWaaleVlogs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    sir tell me one thing if i deploy a hedge strategy like iron condor or butterfly, & suddenly o freak trade comes into our short strike price, then wat will happen there?

    • @mp1614
      @mp1614 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nothing will happen for IC or Butterfly. Freak trades impact only impact in 2 scenarios:
      1. While entering trade or exiting the trade. Whenever you enter or exit you should always execute limit orders.
      2. If you have placed Stop loss. The stop loss orders should be kept as SLL as Jagen explained. Since you are talking about hedged position there is no need for any stop loss so it will not impact.

    • @TVR9
      @TVR9 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mp1614 thanq very mich sir

    • @TVR9
      @TVR9 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mp1614 y not telling ''this'' any youtuber

  • @swapnilshinde1998
    @swapnilshinde1998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good information Sir. I have a query If I have done short straddle with hedging will freak trade cause a problem in that case. Please reply sir.

  • @sandeepkumar-of4wy
    @sandeepkumar-of4wy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Freak trade happen within seconds so by the time we check sms and log in to the broker account will be wiped

  • @lathaselvaraj9677
    @lathaselvaraj9677 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it not possible for algorithm to link the current spot price and modify Stop loss order

  • @rajeshkarale8283
    @rajeshkarale8283 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    when you place an order do you use market order or limit order; also while manually square off do you use market or limit? Stop loss order is clear

  • @krishna1st
    @krishna1st 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Jegan waiting for 15s isn't it too much? How do you handle if the market is continuously moving in one direction and no freak trade.

  • @adityaparakh
    @adityaparakh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Say I Initially sell for 100. Place SL-L for Trigger 130 , Limit 135.
    Is it possible that price jumps from 128 to 132 and nothing gets triggered.
    Or any price > 130 will activate the trigger ?

    • @Haha-sj3ew
      @Haha-sj3ew 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ltp > trigger will execute the trigger

  • @serioussam8869
    @serioussam8869 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks Sir, very nicely explained.
    Sir what do you think of 1st SEPTEMBER NO TRADE day, are you going to support it for benefit of retail traders against the WILD MARGIN RULES of SEBI.
    Even P R Sundar Sir is not saying anything, shameful because people have given so much support to him.

    • @shreyasbhomkar2187
      @shreyasbhomkar2187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Jegan is not supporting retail traders, check his tweets. This big traders forgot their root. Nevermind I just unsubscribed him, I was great fan of him but he disappointed me with his comments related to No Trading Day.

  • @howtovideos7667
    @howtovideos7667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Never ever place a market order, it's that simple. 😂

  • @mpvelu1961
    @mpvelu1961 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Trying to push algo...

  • @raghuk3141
    @raghuk3141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sir we are missing your great strategy videos these days

  • @pankajbhandari647
    @pankajbhandari647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome knowledge sir,
    Can u please clarify one more point for retailer, if we are shorting an equity in intraday, example reliance share short at 2200.
    My SL trigger i am taking as 2250.
    So here how much percentage of difference is good enough for placing SL price so that we can make sure our SL will not be slipped.
    Like trigger price is 2250, so SL is 0.5%(2261) or 1%(2272) or how much percent of difference is good enough according to you sir to place SL?

  • @mostlysunny4u
    @mostlysunny4u 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Your videos are amazing and I have learnt a lot from your videos but now after I saw your tweets that you are not supporting retail traders on no trading day, I don't think I can stay subscribed to you. I'm sorry but you should try to support retails who watch your channel not big agencies who aren't supporting you

  • @narenderchawla1087
    @narenderchawla1087 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If nothing else NSE should limit prices to rational prices with some allowance. There will always be an order in which ITM ATM and OTM can be and should be. In freak trades mid strike is priced disproportionately. So all mid strike prices should be between the adjacent strikes with some deviation.

  • @varunreddt5568
    @varunreddt5568 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The letters on board are not visible....

  • @dibyokumarpradhan1140
    @dibyokumarpradhan1140 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this freak trade happening for option buyer?? where the buy order is getting executed at high price and sold at low price?? If this is the case then brokers need to fix their system. Actually the order should get rejected bcos of insufficient fund.

  • @ujjwalsinha6685
    @ujjwalsinha6685 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can anyone please tell if freak trades happen in cash segment also ?

    • @jeevajeeva2481
      @jeevajeeva2481 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No it’s 99 per won’t happen

    • @ujjwalsinha6685
      @ujjwalsinha6685 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jeevajeeva2481 ok

    • @Haha-sj3ew
      @Haha-sj3ew 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Circuit limits there in equity

  • @ruturajpatil4190
    @ruturajpatil4190 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir, exactly I started doing after freak trade. I started putting 20 point difference...

  • @interestinginvestments1805
    @interestinginvestments1805 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Stock options have even less liquidity than index options of non popular strike prices
    Yet stock options never had freak trade.
    This is definitely not issue of liquidity.

    • @raftmedia4456
      @raftmedia4456 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes

    • @sandeepmonish8864
      @sandeepmonish8864 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Freek trade is fraud don’t trade option even if ur positions are hedged no use example credit spread one strike goes up other don’t then ur positions will be squared off

    • @asifkhetanivlogs5626
      @asifkhetanivlogs5626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@sandeepmonish8864 yup those are frauds and nse bse sebi claims to protect interest of investors traders is doing nothing ....that makes more sure that big people are involved a new kind of loot started in stock market

    • @interestinginvestments1805
      @interestinginvestments1805 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sandeepmonish8864
      This incidence is going to affect habits and mindsets of lot of people.
      There's no solution to such events.
      Even hedging is not safe here.
      Habit of order placement at market price is also a dangerous one.
      For option selling, you practically need to have either unlimited supply of money or a mindset to take a trade and be mentally prepared to lose profit of full year or even to sell the house in worst case.
      Absent mindedness of exchange and regulator is more bigger problem.

  • @aries5534
    @aries5534 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This is especially happening because of SEBI's crazy margin rules

  • @KDSEducation
    @KDSEducation 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This one is confusing jegan .

  • @ramanpenitt
    @ramanpenitt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    SL-L with wide range ani cheppadaniki inta avasarama

    • @nokiak4095
      @nokiak4095 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha baga chepparu....direct market order pettesi , bid 100 unte, 120 aithe dont execute ani clause pedithe ela untadi bro

    • @ramanpenitt
      @ramanpenitt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nokiak4095 that is already there like 5% of mkt protection.
      I.e if no orders are there within 5% of LTP it won't execute.
      But it is there for only some platforms

    • @nokiak4095
      @nokiak4095 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ramanpenitt If LTP is a freak trade ?

    • @ramanpenitt
      @ramanpenitt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nokiak4095 SL trigger price is reference..
      If there are orders around SL which is already LTP (if you have kept far SL) then order will execute

    • @nokiak4095
      @nokiak4095 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ramanpenitt with naked eye or algo,there can be orders around SL which is LTP...but before our instruction goes to exchange the LTP changes within milliseconds or nano seconds (situation where LTP canbe freak trade ) so ?

  • @saravanans3221
    @saravanans3221 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am so fascinated with this digital board. Especially when you erased by rubbing it with your hand, just like how we do it on a black board.

  • @vibhavmisra009
    @vibhavmisra009 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    very nice video for retailers in these creepy trades

  • @aztec1122
    @aztec1122 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If a fraud comes and places huge huge order in single strike price in bank nifty, using algo and orders are executed within seconds. How can we escape these scenarios?

    • @aztec1122
      @aztec1122 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This was an example of freak trade. Anish singh thakur also suffered such a loss

    • @sandeepmonish8864
      @sandeepmonish8864 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes even in hedged position u will loose no use of option trading hear after better stop trading and invest in good stocks trader is thrown in to hell by sebi for sure

    • @coinbureaufx2250
      @coinbureaufx2250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aztec1122 why not contact Helen dickey today she's really the best when it comes to handling your investment and trades

  • @tkharishreddy
    @tkharishreddy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It happen in 37100 put today, spiked to 1921 rupees in one second. Next second it came back to normal price.v

  • @ak211
    @ak211 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best way to deal with freak trades... avoid trading.

  • @arunidiculla5622
    @arunidiculla5622 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2 sec and nano seconds HFT trade , you cant escape, Retailers are ripped off.

  • @ashisrauto8243
    @ashisrauto8243 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So sir what's about today's 36000 BNF

  • @Sanjeevsingh-iz5tt
    @Sanjeevsingh-iz5tt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks sir

  • @artoflearningtechnicalanalysis
    @artoflearningtechnicalanalysis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi
    My SLM always get executed
    Lol

    • @ruturajpatil4190
      @ruturajpatil4190 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes your slm will execute always and also in freak trade by difference of 700-800 rs

    • @ruturajpatil4190
      @ruturajpatil4190 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol

    • @artoflearningtechnicalanalysis
      @artoflearningtechnicalanalysis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ruturajpatil4190 no freak trade won't get my stop loss
      Coz I exit intra day itself
      And nowadays I don't put stop loss

    • @artoflearningtechnicalanalysis
      @artoflearningtechnicalanalysis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@urbutnoturs67 it does not get trigger when Voltality is high stop loss are eaten we should consider level broken when candle closes below that level and follow up candle comes

  • @caramireddych
    @caramireddych 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want your appointment Jegan sir

    • @CapitalZone
      @CapitalZone  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      For queries, chat here for appointments
      t.me/capitalzone

  • @gurudjain060607
    @gurudjain060607 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks

  • @shrutiskitchen3979
    @shrutiskitchen3979 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great teacher.

  • @imrankhan-dt7bm
    @imrankhan-dt7bm 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mr Jagan , iam sorry to tell you but u absolutely wrong,my trade triggered at very high even after putting limit stoploss ,cut my position after jumped the long triggered even I have surplus fund available, as you know market stoploss order is not available in zerodha, please don't missguide if you are not 100% sure.

  • @aamaadmi7389
    @aamaadmi7389 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Confused

  • @caramireddych
    @caramireddych 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir ,I am Ram I want to meet you sir

    • @CapitalZone
      @CapitalZone  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      For queries, chat here for appointments
      t.me/capitalzone

  • @simplyoption9472
    @simplyoption9472 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ftrade is in miliseconds

  • @opportuniest6023
    @opportuniest6023 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir please raise voice against freak trades

  • @ADITYAKUMAR-rx9gp
    @ADITYAKUMAR-rx9gp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    TODAY FREAK TRADE HAPPENED AT 36000PE STRIKE PRICE......MR JAGAN...NOW WHAT IS YOUR VIEWS ON SO CALLED LIQUIDITY...?

  • @neil4182
    @neil4182 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Retail trader is a guinea pig for SEBi, become investors or swing trader instead,this is the only way out I suppose

  • @artoflearningtechnicalanalysis
    @artoflearningtechnicalanalysis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is for guys
    Who are against no margin
    It is good there is no margin
    Listen to what I have to say
    For beginners they loose money because of over exposure......
    Trade for a year with one lot
    At the end of the year if you are profitable then go with two lot...
    If you are not profitable then what is the use of doing huge qty
    And then why you require over exposure
    For beginners........

    • @krishna1st
      @krishna1st 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bro let's say you get driving license , you go and crash your car. Now regulator comes and says ban all cars on the road.Does it make sense? Education is the best way to curb such things, not blanket ban on everyone

    • @artoflearningtechnicalanalysis
      @artoflearningtechnicalanalysis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@krishna1st bro crashing a car doesn't happen 99 percentage
      99 percentage of car crash happens then it is sensible to ban cars
      But 99 percent retailer loose money

    • @krishna1st
      @krishna1st 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@artoflearningtechnicalanalysis good point, my bad wrong example. Maybe I can compare it starting a business or passing IAS, something like that where 90% of people fail, will you cancel the exam or make it hard for people to start a business?.My point is, instead of out right ban regulator should educated them. The problem is the media glorifies stock market and makes people think it's easy to make money

    • @artoflearningtechnicalanalysis
      @artoflearningtechnicalanalysis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@krishna1st my just one question are you profitable???? For a year balance sheet........

  • @riankashyap1996
    @riankashyap1996 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    By algo he means prop desk software like GATs. Retail is dead hahaha 😂

  • @aamaadmi7389
    @aamaadmi7389 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    37000 pe freak trade

  • @gampaful
    @gampaful 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Freak trades Only give big loss to option sellers..not option buyers..for option buyers it's a big chance to make jackpot profit in only few seconds

    • @utsav1429
      @utsav1429 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂Like winning a lottery actually only hft's make option buying

  • @bankniftyview5901
    @bankniftyview5901 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir aap sab ne pehle bahut profit kiya hai aap sab 200 jitne you tuber mil kar sebi ke khilaf pradarsan karo ya fir fir scourt me file karo aap hum ko bol rahe ho to hum to kuch nahi kar sakte kyuki mere pass 25000 rs hi total savin hai aap logo ne pehle lakho me kamaya hai aap ke jaise 300/400 u tuber ek hoke is scam ke piche pad jao and scourt and pministet se mil ne ka time mago sab ek bar aana apna igo chod ke ek jaga ekttha ho jao

  • @amit4roopa
    @amit4roopa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks so much you have covered the topic beautifully

  • @peacemind3778
    @peacemind3778 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir this setup is not attractive, however previous vedios setup was good. I mean in which you taught us different strategy vedios. Sir make a vedio on your intraday system.

  • @sehaj252525
    @sehaj252525 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Chal be

  • @shanshammer9365
    @shanshammer9365 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am big big big fan of YOU and PR SIR....GOD BLESS U BOTH FOR TRAINING LAYMAN LIKE ME...GOD BLESS YOU

  • @sarathraj2449
    @sarathraj2449 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Worst intro music and video making

  • @Mallesh_Thumpeti
    @Mallesh_Thumpeti 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Handwriting is very bad.. don't use board next ..

  • @gurudjain060607
    @gurudjain060607 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks

  • @gurudjain060607
    @gurudjain060607 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks