The Sony a7III was my introduction to mirrorless cameras and I’ve not looked back. Having just bought the Sonya7IV, I am very happy with its bird AF and tracking. Thank you for the vlog!
I would absolutely love to see that one. I'm shooting the 200-600 on my A7 III and A7 R III and I'm thinking about upgrading to the Sigma 500 f4 Sports with the MC11. How does the adapted Sigma lens hold up with BIF in comparisson to the Sony lens? Thanks a Lot :))
Awesome video and a beautiful selection of images. You're blessed with a beautiful country. Sweden is a hidden gem to us Brits. The first time we visited, I was blown away by the air quality as we left the plane. A 3 hour drive, I was blown away by the beauty and colours of the landscape.
Nice to see that there’s is someone who don’t have a 20k setup to shoot wildlife. It’s just enough to have a good camera like the a7 IV and and good zoom lens to shoot nice pictures as I see at your channel. Thanks and keep it going!
Something else to consider is the A6700 now that it's readily available. I used to shoot with the A7iii and ended up having to decide between the two. As mainly a bird shooter the A6700 gives me 900mm at the long end of the 200-600. After watching quite a few comparison videos it really doesn't suffer much being an APSC over the a7iv full frame sensor. The sensor's new, it's got the latest autofocus system with the AI chip, shoots 11 frames ps and it's a good chunk of cash cheaper. Overall I'm happy with it.
A7 IV has the A1 tracking algorithms which is better than the A9, but the A7 IV lacks in shooting speed. A9 II and A1 will still be better, because that's what theyre geared for
I own the A74 and the 200-600 like you do. I was a little bit disappointed when photographing birds in trees. I expected that the Atificial-intelligence in this camera with bird recognition would be able to auto-focus on a bird behind a branch, which sadly is often not the case. TH-camrs often tend to praise their cameras, you are the first one that I found who mentions those problems in this video which I'm grateful for. I already suspected that something is wrong with my A74! Has anybody tried that very scenario with an A1? It's not the same sensor, but the same processor. The A1 has faster readout and should be faster. But object recognition should be the same... Has anyone compared the A74 vs A1 with birds behind branches?
Thanks for the feedback. My guess is that the object recognition is the same as you mentioned. Good thing though is that this most likely are 100% firmware and might be updated in the future?
Maybe bump into manual focus. The autofocus seems to pick up faster in weeds etc., on my sony a6000 with the new 200-600. It seems to "remember" somehow once it gets focus where I want. Might be similar situations for the newer cameras.
For video the much older GH5 still performs very well (except in low light) & the new OM1 does a very good job as a hybrid with the advantage of both micro four thirds being that weight of gear & price is much lower - any thoughts?
Hey fellow northerner! Just got the A7 iv myself! Its great, cant wait to take it to Africa for some proper wildlife photos! Noce video and great footage :)
I've just shot indoor with 12800 ISO, even under exposed (Green Python). The quality coming out of this cam is insane, especially after a Topaz treatment.
Takk for en fin og nyttig informasjon om A7 IV. Kjekt å følge deg. Du skulle komme en tur over til Norge. Nord Norge og Vest Norge har så mye fint å by på.
The editing on your photos is absolutely amazing. Each picture gives a different vibe i love it! How do you learn to edit like that? Do you light room and colour grading?
Awesome video and I love your work, I'm a nikon shooter (z7ii) it is a great camera but ng AF is failing me due to its lack of animal/bird eye AF tracking, this video made me buy the A7IV and a 200-600 for my bird photography needs, and it's coming tomorrow and I'm so excited to try it, Thank you for sharing your videos.
Already had a Sony 7 IV but after watching so many of your videos I decided to buy the Sony lens 200-600 for 1.3k €. Can't wait to run around with so much focal length. Took some nice pics already with my 24-105mm but being able to go till 600mm ... can't wait for it to try it out! :)
Hi. I thai King about Sony 6400 Channel to a7IV . I used this time lény 200-600 on my crop cam. Is there big difference, have you try 6400 with this lens? Thank you
I just sold my A9 like you I shoot mainly stills and I was not using the A9 what it was intended for. So I already have a A7riv which I love the pixels. Now I'm replacing the A9 with a A7iv to not only use it to enhance what I have the A7r4 for. I want to try some video and I think the A7iv will be able to do both. Thanks for you info. My mom was Swedish I would like to visit Sweden next. My mother died in 1986 and she grew up in America and didn't know much about Sweden. Just would like to trace her roots.
I took mine to Africa a few weeks ago and found the screen protector wanting lift on the back screen when shooting photos as it was getting hot so I had to move the screen to the side of the body.
Hello, Thank you for your informative videos. I have a question: between the Sony A7 Mark IV and the Sony A7C II, which one would you recommend for wildlife photography and videography? And which lens would you suggest, the Sony 200-600 G or the Sigma 60-600? Thanks in advance!
If you were shooting mostly birds, but also some portraits/landscapes, would you recommend a used A9ii in 2024 vs a used A7IV (somewhat similar prices on ebay)
Hi, would love to know more about the Sony A7IV and the Sigma 500mm F4 combination, specially the auto-focus in bird photography. Thank you in advance.
Hired an A1 and an A7iv for photographing wild hares in the north of Scotland. The A1 is incredible (obviously) but i the 30fps just meant I was filling memory cards in the span of 15 minutes. Ended up buying the A7iv as it just felt like a much better all-rounder. Not had any issues with the eye-tracking. Seems to work just as well as the A1
@@jerjaws no, i sealed my a1 also for the a7iv, its enough and I spend 5000€ its crazy. a1 colors are not as good, the shutter sound is like from a toy camera, display is not as good as others (canon) with the same megapixels... when I buy the a7iv it was 2100€ against 7300€... no-brainer to sell my a1
Hello Ole Nilson.... I watched your video very interesting...I still have the A7 lll and am considering whether to buy the A 7 lll or the A 9 ll, or is the sensor of the A7 lll more important than the A9 ll with 20 frames per second. Greetings René
Wonderfu detailed video. I do not have budget for a74, which one should I buy from a6600 and a7r3. Because different seasons in India, although both have environment sealing but sensor is protected in a7r3 only. Also fps is low in both. Kindly suggest me best in this price tag for Bird photography. Thanks
Hi Olle, you talked about working most of the time with “medium flexible spot” (when birds surrounded by branches and leaves) … Have you tried “expanded flexible spot”??? If so, what are the differences and when would you use this focus area? Please your recommendation…Thanks in advance!!! Great channel and work!!!
because you mentioned that you've been doing photography for most of your carreer: may I ask what exactly you do usually? like what did you shoot when you frist started doing it as a job and what dod you shoot now?
It started out as a hobby and I shot everything from landscapes to sport cars. It became my job very recently and It’s TH-cam and social media that is making it possible! :)
Hi Olle! Another youtuber and photographer here. I’ve just discovered your channel and I love your videos! 😊 I’m a Canon shooter for over 14 years. And I’m switching to Sony. 🙈 I’m looking into the A7IV but I’m worried about the rolling shutter. I’m mainly a portrait photographer but I also love wildlife and sports photography. Did you have any problem when shooting action and panning the camera? Did you notice warped backgrounds? Thank you so much! ❤ Subscribed! :)
Hi!🙌 That’s nice, i think the A7IV is an amazing camera. The problem only occurs in silent shooting. Those times it can be a little bit of a problem. But when I shoot in silent, I often shoot subjects that are sitting still anyways. Good luck with the switch!😊🙌
@@ollenilssonen Hi Olle! Thank you so much for your answer. It does help a tone! 😍 I’ll be shooting a lot of surf photography so no need for silent shooting. And in wild-life, as you said, I would use silent shooting only for still subjects. I didn’t think about that actually. This was great to clarify my doubts so THANK YOU! 🥰
Awesome video! I am quite happy with the A7IV too, also switched from the III. How happy are you with the Sigma 500mm lens? I am thinking of getting it too.
Hej Olle, fantastisk video. Olle jeg står og skal skete til Sony og har haft kigget på A7IV og A7RIV. Hvad for et af dem vil du men er bedst til fuglefotografi? Tak på forhånd.
I’m also in similar route for, wildlife videography and photography Little confuse between Sony a7 IV and Canon R6 Which one you recommended I sold my Panasonic S5 due to weak video autofocus
Good morning Explore I use to shoot canon had the eos 60D really nice camera. What I found with canon is that they wouldn't move on innovation.m So I got the Sony a6300 and had no regrets. Then got the a73 really nice camera had plenty of fun with it. Now I got the a74 and enjoying it, its different from the a73. I would recommend looking at Mark Galer on his recommended settings. Also Gary Friedman has a more tech book just like a manual. Gemini just type in the TH-cam search. Canon r6 has overheating in video, A74 gets hot when you switch the of button but will go for around two hours I fell out with canon as they don't innovate any more, they are not on the cutting edge Another reason I did change is the size and weight. I tramp and MTBike and weight/size can be crucial Cheers
How does this guy have so few subscribers, he seems like the nicest guy who knows so much on what he talks about! Definitely earned a new subscriber
I understand what you mean but not that much people are into wildlife photography
The Sony a7III was my introduction to mirrorless cameras and I’ve not looked back. Having just bought the Sonya7IV, I am very happy with its bird AF and tracking. Thank you for the vlog!
This video has some genuineness in it that other youtubers don't have. I like it. Keep creating your art, Olle!
Yes please make a video about the sigma 500 f4. And how it compares to the 200-600!
I would absolutely love to see that one. I'm shooting the 200-600 on my A7 III and A7 R III and I'm thinking about upgrading to the Sigma 500 f4 Sports with the MC11. How does the adapted Sigma lens hold up with BIF in comparisson to the Sony lens? Thanks a Lot :))
Yeah please! Iam a7r3 and 200 600.
One of the best youtube videos I have ever seen! So calm and beautiful with actual helpful field testing and amazing shots!
That makes me very happy to hear. Thank you!🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@@ollenilssonen Wonderful video!
@Olle Nilsson what lens cover do you have on you 200-600 mate?
@@guns25467 Rolan Pro, i have a video about accessories for the 200-600!
The a7iv was meant for Wildlife 33mp plus crop in 4K 60 paired with the 200-600 G lens with the waterproof Rolan pro sleeve super awesome.
Hey Man, a very crisp and clear video for sure and your final words on spending money on lens over a body is what I had in mind exactly !
Thanks man!
Yes I think it’s definitely the way to go!
What are you planning on getting?😃
Awesome video and a beautiful selection of images. You're blessed with a beautiful country. Sweden is a hidden gem to us Brits. The first time we visited, I was blown away by the air quality as we left the plane. A 3 hour drive, I was blown away by the beauty and colours of the landscape.
Your videos are always so peaceful to watch. Love your choices in background music💕
Really glad to hear that❤️
this channel is really underrated and youtube recommended it to me....after watching one video...I really watched all the videos of your channel.....
Again mate you are surprising me in these vdos.
Good job consider this as 2 yr back comment that fuels you😊.
What a striking video. The red eye on the viper was really something. thank you.
Awesome channel, nice guy, easy to watch, informative and entertaining
The video we have all been waiting for. Thank you Olle!
I’m glad you like it Scott!🙏🏻
Nice to see that there’s is someone who don’t have a 20k setup to shoot wildlife. It’s just enough to have a good camera like the a7 IV and and good zoom lens to shoot nice pictures as I see at your channel.
Thanks and keep it going!
Something else to consider is the A6700 now that it's readily available. I used to shoot with the A7iii and ended up having to decide between the two. As mainly a bird shooter the A6700 gives me 900mm at the long end of the 200-600. After watching quite a few comparison videos it really doesn't suffer much being an APSC over the a7iv full frame sensor. The sensor's new, it's got the latest autofocus system with the AI chip, shoots 11 frames ps and it's a good chunk of cash cheaper. Overall I'm happy with it.
Where I live the A7IV is the same price as the a6700. Though choice.
A7 IV has the A1 tracking algorithms which is better than the A9, but the A7 IV lacks in shooting speed. A9 II and A1 will still be better, because that's what theyre geared for
Just recently discover your channel. You're so creative💖💖💖
So much helpful this video was. Please make one on the Sigma 500mm f4 and how it works with a7iv and mc11 combination.
I own the A74 and the 200-600 like you do. I was a little bit disappointed when photographing birds in trees.
I expected that the Atificial-intelligence in this camera with bird recognition would be able to auto-focus on a bird behind a branch, which sadly is often not the case.
TH-camrs often tend to praise their cameras, you are the first one that I found who mentions those problems in this video which I'm grateful for.
I already suspected that something is wrong with my A74!
Has anybody tried that very scenario with an A1? It's not the same sensor, but the same processor. The A1 has faster readout and should be faster. But object recognition should be the same...
Has anyone compared the A74 vs A1 with birds behind branches?
Thanks for the feedback.
My guess is that the object recognition is the same as you mentioned.
Good thing though is that this most likely are 100% firmware and might be updated in the future?
Maybe bump into manual focus. The autofocus seems to pick up faster in weeds etc., on my sony a6000 with the new 200-600. It seems to "remember" somehow once it gets focus where I want. Might be similar situations for the newer cameras.
10:34 wich Lens?
For video the much older GH5 still performs very well (except in low light) & the new OM1 does a very good job as a hybrid with the advantage of both micro four thirds being that weight of gear & price is much lower - any thoughts?
Really well put together video Olle and your photos are stunning got a new sub here😃
Good video thanks
Jason
Inväntar min egna A7IV, hoppas den kommer snart! Härlig video
Håller tummarna!! Tack!❤️
Thank you ,very nice video.
Keep working on more episodes .
Glad you liked it!
Love this vid. Had to definitely subscribe and hoping to get a vlog about this sigma 500 vs other long lenses for wildlife
Nice video! I'm picking my new a7iv up on Thursday
Hey fellow northerner! Just got the A7 iv myself! Its great, cant wait to take it to Africa for some proper wildlife photos! Noce video and great footage :)
That’s awesome!
I’m jealous of the trip to Africa! Good luck!
@@ollenilssonen Every year for 10 years now! Cheers :)
What lenses are you taking to Africa?
Your photos and videos have wonderful colors. I love it.
Thank you so much!
I am definately subscribing to you channel for the awesome quality of the stuff
Thanks mate!!
Skit fina bilder Olle! Har precis skaffat en a7iv och so far so good!
Tack!
Fasen så gött!
Your work is beautiful and hard. i love these absolutely amazing, true thoughts and photos 🧡
Thank you so much 🙏🏻
Beautiful snake and photography, excellent video.
Great review mate!
I love the look of your photos!
I've just shot indoor with 12800 ISO, even under exposed (Green Python). The quality coming out of this cam is insane, especially after a Topaz treatment.
This is camera in my dream ❤
Takk for en fin og nyttig informasjon om A7 IV. Kjekt å følge deg. Du skulle komme en tur over til Norge. Nord Norge og Vest Norge har så mye fint å by på.
Kul att höra!
Ja Norge är riktigt vackert! Var nyligen där faktiskt!
The editing on your photos is absolutely amazing. Each picture gives a different vibe i love it! How do you learn to edit like that? Do you light room and colour grading?
Thank you so much!
I mostly use lightroom and photoshop. Will be doing some editing tutorials during this winter!
@@ollenilssonen That would be awesome and very much appreciated! Thank you for putting out your content 😁
I love Your Video.. I'm Form Bangladesh.. 🇧🇩🇧🇩🇧🇩
Awesome video and I love your work, I'm a nikon shooter (z7ii) it is a great camera but ng AF is failing me due to its lack of animal/bird eye AF tracking, this video made me buy the A7IV and a 200-600 for my bird photography needs, and it's coming tomorrow and I'm so excited to try it, Thank you for sharing your videos.
Are you pleased with the Sony?
How do you find the A7iv for birding?
yes, very much, sold my nikon gears actually@@luap1983
Already had a Sony 7 IV but after watching so many of your videos I decided to buy the Sony lens 200-600 for 1.3k €. Can't wait to run around with so much focal length. Took some nice pics already with my 24-105mm but being able to go till 600mm ... can't wait for it to try it out! :)
Oh that's awesome! and what a price you got it for!💪
I remember the first time I tried 600mm focal lenght. A new world!
Love this video Olle, thank you!
Hows the rolling shutter? And iv read than after 1/1000 speed you loose one stop of light?is it true??
Hi. I thai King about Sony 6400 Channel to a7IV . I used this time lény 200-600 on my crop cam. Is there big difference, have you try 6400 with this lens? Thank you
I guess it's the best camera for the price, and also the 33 MP is great.
I just sold my A9 like you I shoot mainly stills and I was not using the A9 what it was intended for. So I already have a A7riv which I love the pixels. Now I'm replacing the A9 with a A7iv to not only use it to enhance what I have the A7r4 for. I want to try some video and I think the A7iv will be able to do both. Thanks for you info. My mom was Swedish I would like to visit Sweden next. My mother died in 1986 and she grew up in America and didn't know much about Sweden. Just would like to trace her roots.
Hi,
I'm thinking of buying a sony A7 iv for wildlife. Do you also take photos with an electronic shutter? Is the electric shutter usable?
We are of course talking about the A7 4
I took mine to Africa a few weeks ago and found the screen protector wanting lift on the back screen when shooting photos as it was getting hot so I had to move the screen to the side of the body.
Hello,
Thank you for your informative videos. I have a question: between the Sony A7 Mark IV and the Sony A7C II, which one would you recommend for wildlife photography and videography? And which lens would you suggest, the Sony 200-600 G or the Sigma 60-600? Thanks in advance!
How is the Sony a7iii for wildlife and is it better the the a6600 or a6700?
Thank you, it was very helpful.
how did you edit that intro... the text was turning with the drone's right turn.. seemed epic.
If you were shooting mostly birds, but also some portraits/landscapes, would you recommend a used A9ii in 2024 vs a used A7IV (somewhat similar prices on ebay)
Hello, what camera do you recommend for sony 200-600 for 4k filming and bird photography a6700 or a7IV?
I don't own a Sony but you had me with the sweet FPV footage in the beginning so now I'm learning about a system I don't even have 😁
So very very best job bro...
Great video, beautiful photos
Hi, would love to know more about the Sony A7IV and the Sigma 500mm F4 combination, specially the auto-focus in bird photography. Thank you in advance.
Me too! :)
Hired an A1 and an A7iv for photographing wild hares in the north of Scotland. The A1 is incredible (obviously) but i the 30fps just meant I was filling memory cards in the span of 15 minutes.
Ended up buying the A7iv as it just felt like a much better all-rounder. Not had any issues with the eye-tracking. Seems to work just as well as the A1
The A1 runs circles around the A7iv. The A7iv is a great entry level camera
@@jerjaws no, i sealed my a1 also for the a7iv, its enough and I spend 5000€ its crazy. a1 colors are not as good, the shutter sound is like from a toy camera, display is not as good as others (canon) with the same megapixels... when I buy the a7iv it was 2100€ against 7300€... no-brainer to sell my a1
Some lovely pictures...
Hello Ole Nilson.... I watched your video very interesting...I still have the A7 lll and am considering whether to buy the A 7 lll or the A 9 ll, or is the sensor of the A7 lll more important than the A9 ll with 20 frames per second. Greetings René
I have plan to buy this camera;Only one big issues: Overheating.But if they will fix this that on the next firmware update I will be happy to buy it.
Wonderfu detailed video. I do not have budget for a74, which one should I buy from a6600 and a7r3. Because different seasons in India, although both have environment sealing but sensor is protected in a7r3 only. Also fps is low in both. Kindly suggest me best in this price tag for Bird photography. Thanks
Love your work 💞❤️
Thanks for the support❤️
Great video! Convinced me on getting this camera.
What tripod and lens were you using in this video mate?
Great video! I wonder if the "MENU" on the Sony A7IV is much clearer than on the Sony A7III?
Thank you
How about using tht camera to take long exposure photos?
Hii.. I have a question. When you shoot in compressed raw .. is it shoot in mechanical shutter or electronic shutter...??
I just started wildlife photography with canon 250d with 75-300mm lens. Is it okay? Any tips from your side
How about Sony A9 compare to Sony A7IV which will you recommend
Hi, how is the af of your combo instead of a7iv and Sony 200/600? Thank you
Hi. I’m reading about AF problems with the Sony a7 IV and the 200-600 combo. You see any of this Ollie ? Thanks. 👏🏻😀
Hi!
No I’ve haven’t experienced any issues with the AF!😃
Nice job, I like your video.
Is the a7iv better than a7riv ? for wildlife photography
Your footage looks great!
Thanks!
Grymma bilder på huggormen! Ser fram emot fler! :)
Tack Daniel!🙏🏻
due you use mechanical vs electronic?
essa camera é sensacional, pena que no brasil custe meus rins.
Hi Olle, you talked about working most of the time with “medium flexible spot” (when birds surrounded by branches and leaves) … Have you tried “expanded flexible spot”??? If so, what are the differences and when would you use this focus area? Please your recommendation…Thanks in advance!!! Great channel and work!!!
Please post one review about your Sigma 500mm lense with A7IV
Hi ... What lens is that ?
If you guys want a good hobby camera, consider looking into the Olympus E-PL10 or E-P7
because you mentioned that you've been doing photography for most of your carreer: may I ask what exactly you do usually? like what did you shoot when you frist started doing it as a job and what dod you shoot now?
It started out as a hobby and I shot everything from landscapes to sport cars. It became my job very recently and It’s TH-cam and social media that is making it possible! :)
@@ollenilssonen oh that's very cool! and you just make money through commissions in your local area I'd assume ?
Im torn between the a7 iv and the Nikon z6ii can anyone give me some opinions ?
Im mostly doing animal and landscape photo but wonna have a some video capability
Hi Olle! Another youtuber and photographer here. I’ve just discovered your channel and I love your videos! 😊 I’m a Canon shooter for over 14 years. And I’m switching to Sony. 🙈 I’m looking into the A7IV but I’m worried about the rolling shutter. I’m mainly a portrait photographer but I also love wildlife and sports photography. Did you have any problem when shooting action and panning the camera? Did you notice warped backgrounds? Thank you so much! ❤ Subscribed! :)
Hi!🙌
That’s nice, i think the A7IV is an amazing camera.
The problem only occurs in silent shooting. Those times it can be a little bit of a problem. But when I shoot in silent, I often shoot subjects that are sitting still anyways.
Good luck with the switch!😊🙌
@@ollenilssonen Hi Olle! Thank you so much for your answer. It does help a tone! 😍 I’ll be shooting a lot of surf photography so no need for silent shooting. And in wild-life, as you said, I would use silent shooting only for still subjects. I didn’t think about that actually. This was great to clarify my doubts so THANK YOU! 🥰
@@LauraBChi, how do you like the A7iv for birding in terms of viewfinder lags, fps burst and AF? Thanks for sharing
Very relieved to learn I will be able to use the a7iv when I have my hands on 😜🤣
Thanks for sharing this video. How do you find tracking a bird in flight with burst photography? Do you get a live view in the viewfinder? Thanks
Great video! This is the baby A1 lol
Do you find a7IV with FE600 enough reach for birding ? - Do you shoot a7IV in crop mode ? (14Mpix)
Awesome video! I am quite happy with the A7IV too, also switched from the III. How happy are you with the Sigma 500mm lens? I am thinking of getting it too.
Thanks bud!
I’m really happy how it performs. I’ll make a video on it soon!👍🏼
Wat about the A9? Even the frist would be.a great wildlife camera right?
Definitely! It’s a beast!
Ollle! splendid done, have a good day,
I love Nikon
Hej Olle, fantastisk video. Olle jeg står og skal skete til Sony og har haft kigget på A7IV og A7RIV. Hvad for et af dem vil du men er bedst til fuglefotografi? Tak på forhånd.
Tack!
Har du hårddiskkapacitet så är A7RIV riktigt vass för möjligheten att beskära mycket. Men annars är jag väldigt nöjd med A7IV!
Can we shoot astrophotography or night scapes using A7 IV ? If yes, what are the most suited lenses to serve the purpose ?
Definitely!!
I have the Sony 20mm 1.8 which I’m very happy with!
I have the A6300 and absolutely love it for wildlife…shooting MF only though through my birdingscope😀
I’m also in similar route for, wildlife videography and photography
Little confuse between Sony a7 IV and Canon R6
Which one you recommended
I sold my Panasonic S5 due to weak video autofocus
Good morning Explore I use to shoot canon had the eos 60D really nice camera. What I found with canon is that they wouldn't move on innovation.m So I got the Sony a6300 and had no regrets. Then got the a73 really nice camera had plenty of fun with it. Now I got the a74 and enjoying it, its different from the a73.
I would recommend looking at Mark Galer on his recommended settings. Also Gary Friedman has a more tech book just like a manual. Gemini just type in the TH-cam search.
Canon r6 has overheating in video, A74 gets hot when you switch the of button but will go for around two hours
I fell out with canon as they don't innovate any more, they are not on the cutting edge
Another reason I did change is the size and weight. I tramp and MTBike and weight/size can be crucial
Cheers