All I need to know is, will the 30x30 Long Mill work for making guitar bodies, necks, and freboards, and it appears it does. I emailed Scienci yesterday to ask the same question and got a frankly very lazy reply, just directing me to the forum, the FB, and here on TH-cam. No attempt to sell, no attempt to ask me anything specific about my needs. I get that it's Monday morning, but tell St*****ie to step it up.
Ya, sorry about that one...Sometimes a saying just gets stuck in there and before ya know it, you've said it a dozen times. If you can make it through, it's well worth the watch!
A good tip is to just copy out each of the elements and test carve them individually into some plywood. That way you can test to make sure fiddly bits such as the string ferrels and pickups fit your model before you burn an entire test body and multiple hours of carve time.
Hey Scott! Great video! Super informative! Looking forward to the next one "at the end of the day....". Hmmm. A t-shirt in the making - sorry that stuck with me from one of your videos :)
This is spectacular. I am an Onshape Ambassador, and I teach middle school. We are currently working on a CNC Partscaster, and this is perfect or my Tele kids! I was wondering if you have any suggestions for flipping stock accurately (I am trying a laser center marking today) and what you use for hold down method, or if there is already a video on that?
Thanks for taking the time to make such a great video series, looks like a lot of work. I wanted to know if you could include STEP files with your downloadable files. Most CAD software will be able to import these files. I use Solidworks and fusion360 and STEP files are the preferred method of distributing CAD files. Thanks!
Well the machine can handle the forces by the look of it, but it's the spindle and the bits that are doing the work. What spindle and bits were you using for these insane cuts?
Was there more files for the project. I created an account in onshape and was able to open the dxf of the back and the stl image of the body, but was unable to find the design file to see the different levels and pocket measurements. The crv file would be useful with vcarve, (I use carveco). The file you were playing with in onshape seemed absent.
Yup! We forgot the link to the Onshape file! It's been added to the video description, but here it is directly: rb.gy/osqdyk There is a .crv in the original project file link though. Happy carving!
You can also click the top and bottom of the pocket and the measurement tool on the bottom right will tell you what the depth is without clicking into the extruder feature 👍
Really appreciate you sharing your experiences! Waiting on my oneinfinity ....and need to relearn cnc....built a jbass for my pops... but looking forward to doing more with cnc...and this channel seems like a great "Start point"...thank you sir! Looking forward to learning
That's why we make these videos, so we're glad it helped! Good luck with your future projects, it's an amazing hobby to be a part of. We're got new content coming our regularly, so subscribe away if you like what you're seeing!
so you say 1”x 16 “ boards for the test blanks. are you just stacking/ gluing 2 of those boards ontop each other ? to get the thickness? what kind of wood is it? pine?
@@SienciLabs awesome. wow that was a quick response . one more quick question. for cutting , you mention longer bits. is a 1/“4 long the only long bit inwould need to get? basically for pickup pockets and perimeter of the guitar ?and is it a down cut or compression bit?
@eross21 We aim to please 😉…There are a few different ways to get by with normal length 1/4” down cut bits. Basically cutting a little from each side. If you have a longer bit, you can do it just from one side like we did in our “second” guitar video. Check it out here! m.th-cam.com/video/7TvyiQoK9pU/w-d-xo.html
Can you take the blue outline body shape and reduce the overall shape of the body (not pickup, neck, bridge etc…) just the body by say from 100% to a smaller size like 75% or even down to 50% to make a mini guitar with the same neck, bridge and pickup routing spacing as the full size? I know the control cavity would have to be modified.
Yup, that should work. Like you said you'd have to modify a few things to make it work, but in theory it would carve. If you make one please share it on the socials with us! We want to see a mini Andy-caster!
@@SienciLabs right now I’m building a mini Wolfgang but with templates I made and cutting everything out with a router and belt/orbital sander. The neck is a shorter scale (basically the third fret is now the nut location) but the pickups cavities, Floyd rose and neck cavity is all original locations and specs. I have a onefinity elite foreman ordered with the pwn 2.2kw water cooled spindle, all will be here in a few more weeks. I have easel program I’m playing with right now, just learning the cad ropes so to speak.
So I have already got most of my parts, but the Jackson SLA/pro nut was out of stock. Solomusicgear Rocks! I was wondering what the scale length is,and will I be able to make modifications for a different nut?
Yes, get the nut width right and you are good. You can always file down or shim the underside of the nut for string height or open up the slots for bigger string gauges. More important is the string spacing that you want. The scale length is based on the inner edge of the nut so get that right but it isn't super critical as long as your bridge has adequate saddle distance adjustment. I personally recommend Earvana compensated nuts for better setups.
Hello , I thank you very much for doing this. I just ordered some parts. When I went to click the link for the truss rod, I found myself at Fret Guru's website. Could you let me know what type of truss rod you are using and the dimensions? Cheers!
In Sienci's software drop down menu, there's no Onshape link. I want to go with Vcarve Pro. Do you like Onshape better than VCarve pro? Just curious. Thanks
We're not exactly sure what you're looking for. They're 2 different use softwares: Onshape is a free software (with paid upgrades) that's used to create 3D models etc, and can be found online. Vcarve is the software used to import 3D models, create toolpaths, and save files to be cut on your cnc. So they are different softwares for different requirements. We recommend you check out some of our other videos to get a better feel for their uses. Let us know how it works out.
For sure! We've kept a couple of the testers for just that reason. We haven't decided what we'll be doing with them just yet, but rest assured, when we do we'll post the fun for all to see.
Using the step-by-step guidance we have in this series you'll be able to use FreeCad or any other similar software. The project files and 3D models are also available in the description if you'd like to import them and modify them from there
@@SienciLabs I downloaded the project files but there was only 1 dxf, the gcode directory and an stl of the body. No 3d file I could open with fusion360.
No it wouldn't be, just because the file wasn't designed in Fusion 360. I know that it's quite annoying, we wish design programs were all able to be more compatible
Thanks for the input. We definitely learned a LOT about how to do, and NOT to do for these types of videos. We've done a second guitar project where we applied those lessons if you're interested. th-cam.com/video/7TvyiQoK9pU/w-d-xo.html
"convenience is king, get yourself digital calipers". WTF does that mean? You can't read a dial caliper? That's like saying "convenience is king, get yourself a digital clock instead of an analog."
All I need to know is, will the 30x30 Long Mill work for making guitar bodies, necks, and freboards, and it appears it does.
I emailed Scienci yesterday to ask the same question and got a frankly very lazy reply, just directing me to the forum, the FB, and here on TH-cam.
No attempt to sell, no attempt to ask me anything specific about my needs.
I get that it's Monday morning, but tell St*****ie to step it up.
I wanted to watch this, but, seriously.... "at the end of the day" killed it for me.
Ya, sorry about that one...Sometimes a saying just gets stuck in there and before ya know it, you've said it a dozen times. If you can make it through, it's well worth the watch!
This is the only reason I bought a longmill
FYI…. another cnc luthier series recommends the practice carves be done in dense pink styrofoam! Very inexpensive
Yup! That's a great suggestion!
Looking forward to this series. I've built a bunch "the old fashioned way", can't wait to be able to do some on the Longmill!
Have fun!
Looking forward to seeing the whole series!!!!
We’re workin’ on it!
A good tip is to just copy out each of the elements and test carve them individually into some plywood. That way you can test to make sure fiddly bits such as the string ferrels and pickups fit your model before you burn an entire test body and multiple hours of carve time.
Absolutely bang on! Great tip. Thanks for that!
I've been looking for a series like this for a while. Thanks for doing it. At the end of the day, I hope I make a guitar.
It’s an amazing feeling playing something you built yourself, even if there are flaws. Satisfaction overload 🤘
Hey Scott! Great video! Super informative! Looking forward to the next one "at the end of the day....". Hmmm. A t-shirt in the making - sorry that stuck with me from one of your videos :)
Ha! You have no idea how hard it is the break that habit 😉 Thanks for the kind words!
This is spectacular. I am an Onshape Ambassador, and I teach middle school. We are currently working on a CNC Partscaster, and this is perfect or my Tele kids! I was wondering if you have any suggestions for flipping stock accurately (I am trying a laser center marking today) and what you use for hold down method, or if there is already a video on that?
Thanks Kevin!
We used index holes, and it's covered in video 2! let us know if we can help with anything else!
Informative and fun. Thank you!
Thanks! It’s even more fun once we start carving 🎸
How about making the headstock a blank shape so an individual can shape it themselves?
Thanks for taking the time to make such a great video series, looks like a lot of work. I wanted to know if you could include STEP files with your downloadable files. Most CAD software will be able to import these files. I use Solidworks and fusion360 and STEP files are the preferred method of distributing CAD files. Thanks!
We'll keep it in mind, but you can also export STEP and other 3D model files directly from Onshape as well if you wish (link provided in description).
Well the machine can handle the forces by the look of it, but it's the spindle and the bits that are doing the work.
What spindle and bits were you using for these insane cuts?
I guess you know, I am doing this.
Was there more files for the project. I created an account in onshape and was able to open the dxf of the back and the stl image of the body, but was unable to find the design file to see the different levels and pocket measurements.
The crv file would be useful with vcarve, (I use carveco).
The file you were playing with in onshape seemed absent.
The video was great, my wife even watched as guitars will be my retirement
Yup! We forgot the link to the Onshape file! It's been added to the video description, but here it is directly:
rb.gy/osqdyk
There is a .crv in the original project file link though.
Happy carving!
In Onshape you have to open the extrude for each feature to see the depths of the pockets.
You can also click the top and bottom of the pocket and the measurement tool on the bottom right will tell you what the depth is without clicking into the extruder feature 👍
Really appreciate you sharing your experiences! Waiting on my oneinfinity ....and need to relearn cnc....built a jbass for my pops... but looking forward to doing more with cnc...and this channel seems like a great "Start point"...thank you sir! Looking forward to learning
That's why we make these videos, so we're glad it helped! Good luck with your future projects, it's an amazing hobby to be a part of. We're got new content coming our regularly, so subscribe away if you like what you're seeing!
so you say 1”x 16 “ boards for the test blanks. are you just stacking/ gluing 2 of those boards ontop each other ? to get the thickness? what kind of wood is it? pine?
You got it! I glued up pine 2x10's.
@@SienciLabs awesome. wow that was a quick response . one more quick question. for cutting , you mention longer bits. is a 1/“4 long the only long bit inwould need to get? basically for pickup pockets and perimeter of the guitar ?and is it a down cut
or compression bit?
@eross21 We aim to please 😉…There are a few different ways to get by with normal length 1/4” down cut bits. Basically cutting a little from each side. If you have a longer bit, you can do it just from one side like we did in our “second” guitar video. Check it out here!
m.th-cam.com/video/7TvyiQoK9pU/w-d-xo.html
Can you take the blue outline body shape and reduce the overall shape of the body (not pickup, neck, bridge etc…) just the body by say from 100% to a smaller size like 75% or even down to 50% to make a mini guitar with the same neck, bridge and pickup routing spacing as the full size? I know the control cavity would have to be modified.
Yup, that should work. Like you said you'd have to modify a few things to make it work, but in theory it would carve. If you make one please share it on the socials with us! We want to see a mini Andy-caster!
@@SienciLabs right now I’m building a mini Wolfgang but with templates I made and cutting everything out with a router and belt/orbital sander. The neck is a shorter scale (basically the third fret is now the nut location) but the pickups cavities, Floyd rose and neck cavity is all original locations and specs. I have a onefinity elite foreman ordered with the pwn 2.2kw water cooled spindle, all will be here in a few more weeks. I have easel program I’m playing with right now, just learning the cad ropes so to speak.
I wish the series was a little more compressed. This takes an eternity to get through just to make a body. I sat through almost 2 1/2 hours.
We agree, so we made a simplified condensed tutorial for making a guitar here! th-cam.com/video/7TvyiQoK9pU/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for doing this Series! Can Carveco Maker import your models to produce the gcodes?
We don't have a lot of experience with Carveco, but I believe they have very similar functionality so you should be able to.
Just curious, what do I need to do to make it a lefty? I guess the easiest would be to just mirror everything in the final software.
I believe if you "mirror" the part in Onshape, you can essentially make a left hand version.
So I have already got most of my parts, but the Jackson SLA/pro nut was out of stock. Solomusicgear Rocks! I was wondering what the scale length is,and will I be able to make modifications for a different nut?
The scale is 25.5” so there’s a little room for play, but it’s based off typical Fenders. Let us know how yours works out!
Yes, get the nut width right and you are good. You can always file down or shim the underside of the nut for string height or open up the slots for bigger string gauges. More important is the string spacing that you want. The scale length is based on the inner edge of the nut so get that right but it isn't super critical as long as your bridge has adequate saddle distance adjustment. I personally recommend Earvana compensated nuts for better setups.
Hello , I thank you very much for doing this. I just ordered some parts. When I went to click the link for the truss rod, I found myself at Fret Guru's website. Could you let me know what type of truss rod you are using and the dimensions? Cheers!
Sorry about that! Here's the direct link to the truss rod we used! (This link actually works! ;) - We used the 440mm version.
rb.gy/xeay5g
@@SienciLabs Excellent! Thank you kindly.
Are there other guitar files like Les Paul or fender Strats? And with different pickup options?
Hey there, for the files we provide, no, we just the Telecaster style one. However, there are lots of great places to find other styles.
@@SienciLabs can those other styles be imported into Onshape? svg or stl or other type of files?
In Sienci's software drop down menu, there's no Onshape link. I want to go with Vcarve Pro. Do you like Onshape better than VCarve pro? Just curious. Thanks
We're not exactly sure what you're looking for. They're 2 different use softwares: Onshape is a free software (with paid upgrades) that's used to create 3D models etc, and can be found online. Vcarve is the software used to import 3D models, create toolpaths, and save files to be cut on your cnc. So they are different softwares for different requirements. We recommend you check out some of our other videos to get a better feel for their uses. Let us know how it works out.
That damaged one could be made to look extremely cool with some more wood removed and some colored resin.
For sure! We've kept a couple of the testers for just that reason. We haven't decided what we'll be doing with them just yet, but rest assured, when we do we'll post the fun for all to see.
I greatly appreciate it
We're glad you enjoyed it! If you're making your own, be sure to share your journey with us on the socials!
Hi sir im from india which software do you use for machining
Vectric Vcarve Pro
Could you imagine the guiter brian may and his father would of had created with a cnc router and an old fireplace mantle.
Right?! There’s a handful of amazing famous players who made their own! 🎸 🤘
will this work with FreeCad?
Using the step-by-step guidance we have in this series you'll be able to use FreeCad or any other similar software. The project files and 3D models are also available in the description if you'd like to import them and modify them from there
@@SienciLabs I downloaded the project files but there was only 1 dxf, the gcode directory and an stl of the body. No 3d file I could open with fusion360.
Fusion360 is able to open and work with STLs, did you already try that?
@Sienci Labs yes I did open the file in 360 but it would not be editable like the onshape file you have since shared. Ty for this series again.
No it wouldn't be, just because the file wasn't designed in Fusion 360. I know that it's quite annoying, we wish design programs were all able to be more compatible
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Bravo. Can you send me the file. Greetings
Thanks for the kind words. Here's a link to all the guitar project files. drive.google.com/drive/folders/1huh3h-nS4OIKGVxics7JUJKdJW2v0XdS
Too much exposition. Just do the thing! The first 14 minutes could easily be condensed into 3 minutes. Not sure if I'll make it much farther.
Thanks for the input. We definitely learned a LOT about how to do, and NOT to do for these types of videos. We've done a second guitar project where we applied those lessons if you're interested.
th-cam.com/video/7TvyiQoK9pU/w-d-xo.html
There is an online for all different body styles
Where would people be able to find it?
All it takes is one router injury to become a huge fan of CNC...
A lot of information that is all over the place, not very structured.
I'm an idiot 🤔🤨
I will continue waching the video, but 10 minutes talking without info.
We were learning too while filming this series. Being more concise was one of those things 🤓
6 минут послушал и надоело одно и тоже слушать Я Я Я Я Я .
CNC machines don't build, they remove material to get desired shape
You are too much talking brother
Thanka for the feedback
Get it together and get organized. Thousands of words said that added no value. Re-record this please!
"convenience is king, get yourself digital calipers". WTF does that mean? You can't read a dial caliper? That's like saying "convenience is king, get yourself a digital clock instead of an analog."