Damn! That is nice. Plates are perfect & that leather cut is phenomenal! I have a couple red logo IC belts that are plated to look like the original that Savage polished with Brasso
awesome belt. plates are thick and the etching is nice and deep. leather cut is my favorite too for the IC. its that 88-92 style of cut. if you cant get a Parks or Millican, esp. for the classic designs......shit this is definitely the next best thing. looks like the work is quality too. at the end of the day, its all about the happiness of the consumer. if the buyer is happy and satisfied, that's all that matters.
I've seen them done both ways by Milican made belts. Some point to the left, some point inside like mine. Take this guys Milican made belt for example. Go to 4:25 seconds in. th-cam.com/video/CfIkDIXmpKw/w-d-xo.html
It's funny you say that because I just recieved a message from someone on Facebook that said the complete opposite! LOL. That Cory, aka championship dreams, got his plates from ORM. He also was sure the leather was made by someone else until I showed him the stamp on the strap. People like to think they know everything when in fact it seems that no one knows shit! Hahaha. Regardless, ORM makes great belts, Championship dreams makes great belts. I believe that these were made by Championship dreams because the etching and the non wavey plates are synonymous with american made belts.
Hey John, if you had to order an ic belt; who has Better plates. Classic shields or Orm. Also, I have recently learned that championship dream gets their plates from Classic Shields and puts them on high quality American leather. Either way you got a steal for 700 bucks. Championship dreams uses the same 4.2mm plates that Classic Shields uses. Who has better plates over seas. Thx
Ooof. That's a good question. Both belt makers make a good belt, but CS has their own cnc etching machine and don't have to farm it out like ORM does. That means faster turnaround time. My classic shield tag belt is the best etch belt I own. And I got it in 3 months. With orm you'll probably wait a year but it will be a quality belt as well. It's a toss up but right now I'd say CS.
Looking at getting a belt. Dave millican ripped me off and took my money but never delivered my belt. What’s the difference between his belt and that wing eagle you have.
I'm on a few belt groups on Facebook. That's where I go to get information on belts and who the best belt makers. The groups I follow are: Brothers of the belt, Championship Belt Brothers, A&Js belts inc., ORM belts, multi-continental Belt Society
@@naitch1761 First off, I love this belt, but if I'm gonna be honest, no for these two reasons: 1. The main plate is not as curved as my Milican was. The curve on this belt is just a hair too flat for my 100% liking. 2. The leather is good, the tooling is great and so is the cut, but the leather is not as floppy as my Winged eagle. (My WE leather is REALLY floppy) The IC leather flops, but I belive the leather is too thick for it to truly flop around. Huge difference between my winged eagle and IC. But you can't tell any of that when it hangs beautifully on a wall. The plates are excellently etched and every bit as deep and detailed as my old Milican!
John, another George Clooney review! I have to believe with all the knowledge I have gained in the hobby that in 2021. Classic Shields makes the best belt. I even believe in my heart that Corey King from Championship Dreams orders plates from Classic Shields and put the belt on his own leather, he even adds a 1 piece belt tip from belt performance. IMHO nobody makes plates any better then CS. Your tag belt is probably the nicest etch belt I have ever seen! Your triple crown is the same as mine. My only suspicion is the lack of curve in plates, but great belt. Let me know about CD vs Classic shields, which way would you go?? Thx
I paid about $700. This belt was purchased second hand. If you are looking to get this belt from the maker himself these days it might be in the ballpark of 1000
Those are beautiful belts there! I dont have instagram or facebook but how much does orm or championship dreams belts cost. The ic and winged eagle only.
ORM = 1250 Champ dreams = ?? I bought the IC belt second hand and not directly from championship dreams. But my guess is that the IC would cost more since the plates are made in america.
Not gonna lie my wwe intercontinental legends Edition etching is almost as deep. Your border lines on the main plate may be a bit deeper but not by much. Im in no way bashing your belt its gorgeous the intercontinental is one of if not my favorite of all time. Id say I like yours over mine its something about the main plate shape and size thats more on point than the wwe shop version. Anyways damn nice purchase enjoy that belt man it's a classic.
I have to say...of all the belts that the wwe shop puts out....the IC belt is by far the best that they sell. I have never seen a legends version of this belt, but the belt on the white strap that they sell looks really good. Throw that belt on real leather and most people wouldn't be able to tell the difference
@@johnjon246 The legends Edition is basically the same plate wise to the white strap version. Only difference is the wwe logos. The Legends version has the old block style just doesn't have the F on it unlike yours. The etching on yours is crisper the wwe shop etching seems rounded off. Im about to get it releathered with a Paul Martin strap that simulated strap on it looks good but you know the rest.😄
@@jasonkidd1689 Gotcha. I've seen and compared my belt to the legends belt and while the legends belt has better etching than its predecessor, it's still not as deep as an american made boot.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Championship Dreams gets their plates from Pakistan. All that American made talk is just wrong. Nowadays Corey orders plates from Custom Shields and is currently having Romeo Anderson re-leather the CS plates. I don’t know who in Pakistan made that particular belt, but it appears on par with a Classic Shields, so it could be them for sure. Far from an American belt maker though. This has been verified by multiple actual belt makers in the US. The belt is a nice belt; just wanted to clear up the misinformation. Those are Pakistani plates.
And I've heard the complete opposite from several american belt makers. Think whatever you want to think...but there is no pakistani belt maker who's art and etching looks identical to mine. Show me proof and then we can talk.
MrJuanderfull it’s probably a cast plate like Fandu uses. Those are also made in Pakistan. Keep in mind Classic Shields is a Pakistani company and they make belts on par with Millican etc.
Yeah that belt is made by Classic Shields. I know there work anywhere. I think the reason he thinks that Pakistan belts are bad is because every has an ORM belt. ORM is horrible and there “HD” belts are not actually HD.
Plates are pretty good but not the best. A few plating issues but nothing outstanding. Overall let down imo on the leather job. AJ Gittings if he wants to be respected in the hobby needs a proper stamp
Plating does have some minor blemishes. Overall though etching is Crisp and no wavey plates. The leather could have been better. It's not floppy enough for my liking.
Hahahahahaha! You're a funny guy. I'd rather have a ring accurate belt with the actual WWF logo than an inferior quality on stiff strap wwe shop version of the belt with the wrong logo.
@@johnjon246 I bet you think those kids on TH-cam that have those walls of “toy” replica belts are soooo cool. We don’t have toys. These are actually trophy belts as in the whole reason wrestlers wear belts to begin with. Trophies were to bulky to carry from town to town so they started with belt buckles and ended up with shields on genuine cowhide bootstrap (after they ate the cow). But hey u keep playing with ur over priced $400 China made toys on plastic straps 🤙🏽🤙🏽
@@johnjon246 sorry John that tagged the wrong guy the previous comment was meant for the kid you replied to. Your trophy belt is 💯 happy you were able to get one man
Amazing! This is one of my favorite IC belt, which reminds me when The Rock had it, Stone Cold, HHH and Shawn Michaels, alongside the Big Eagle.
Damn! That is nice.
Plates are perfect & that leather cut is phenomenal!
I have a couple red logo IC belts that are plated to look like the original that Savage polished with Brasso
Thanks! Im very pleased with the plates. And I may have seen your belts already. Did you post them in a facebook belt group?
@@johnjon246
Yes.
Theirs also been a few more people get the same style plates as well
@@insaneshanesworld9600 is that finish purposefully painted like that?
@@johnjon246
Yes sir. It's made to look like the one that Savage ruined by polishing with Brasso
Love the color of blue on the globe. It's the same as the 1988 Honky Tonk Man version from WM4. Love it!
Yes sir it is!
@@johnjon246 this version of this title is my favetet
awesome belt. plates are thick and the etching is nice and deep. leather cut is my favorite too for the IC. its that 88-92 style of cut. if you cant get a Parks or Millican, esp. for the classic designs......shit this is definitely the next best thing. looks like the work is quality too. at the end of the day, its all about the happiness of the consumer. if the buyer is happy and satisfied, that's all that matters.
Amazing looking belt!!! One thing I did notice, the left inner side plate is pointing in the wrong direction I do believe.
I've seen them done both ways by Milican made belts. Some point to the left, some point inside like mine.
Take this guys Milican made belt for example. Go to 4:25 seconds in.
th-cam.com/video/CfIkDIXmpKw/w-d-xo.html
I have an IC replica that I don't love. I'd love to find one like you've got there.
HD plate from ORM are made in the US.
I used to follow Championship dreams he always emphasize on deep etching. it looks terrific brother
The only replica belt that is close to your belt is the Master Seriesth-cam.com/video/6WCYKeL_U30/w-d-xo.html
It's funny you say that because I just recieved a message from someone on Facebook that said the complete opposite! LOL. That Cory, aka championship dreams, got his plates from ORM. He also was sure the leather was made by someone else until I showed him the stamp on the strap. People like to think they know everything when in fact it seems that no one knows shit! Hahaha.
Regardless, ORM makes great belts, Championship dreams makes great belts. I believe that these were made by Championship dreams because the etching and the non wavey plates are synonymous with american made belts.
@@johnjon246 fuck! Ok good to know but God nice belt really enjoy
MrJuanderfull yes Championship Dreams get the plates from overseas.
John I hope you kept that one! It's so beautiful 😍
Still got it!
Do you have links to the sellers you've talked about? Championship Dreams, Millican, ORM etc.. can't seem to find them
I'm in the market for a classic Reggie IC belt and I am wondering if its better to get a 4mm dual plated or 4mm gold plated? Which is more accurate?
Bro there is no dual plated IC belt
Hey John, if you had to order an ic belt; who has Better plates. Classic shields or Orm. Also, I have recently learned that championship dream gets their plates from Classic Shields and puts them on high quality American leather. Either way you got a steal for 700 bucks. Championship dreams uses the same 4.2mm plates that Classic Shields uses.
Who has better plates over seas. Thx
Ooof. That's a good question. Both belt makers make a good belt, but CS has their own cnc etching machine and don't have to farm it out like ORM does. That means faster turnaround time. My classic shield tag belt is the best etch belt I own. And I got it in 3 months. With orm you'll probably wait a year but it will be a quality belt as well.
It's a toss up but right now I'd say CS.
Hi I'm in Australia wanting to start collecting belts don't know what seller from eBay sells a good belt can u recommend
Noooo Ebay! Do facebook belt groups instead.
Congrats brother looks great! Keep up the good vids
Thanks man! Much appreciated!
I’m interested in purchasing this belt what is the best way to go about purchasing my first belt
Join a Facebook belt group. There you'll find out who the belt makers are and how much.
Are those black lines down the sides of each side plates cut outs, black bars or just painted in black lines?
If you go full screen on the video, when he gets to the side plates you can definitely see they are painted lines.
Are those real plates
Watching wwf back in the day I always preferred the classic IC belt over the smaller Winged Eagle
Looking at getting a belt. Dave millican ripped me off and took my money but never delivered my belt. What’s the difference between his belt and that wing eagle you have.
Mine was made in 7 months and a fraction of the cost.
Brother are you on a belt group? do you recommend me a group to get those kind of beautiful belts? Thanks enjoy your holiday.
I'm on a few belt groups on Facebook. That's where I go to get information on belts and who the best belt makers.
The groups I follow are: Brothers of the belt, Championship Belt Brothers, A&Js belts inc., ORM belts, multi-continental Belt Society
@@johnjon246 thanks brother I am on orm group on Facebook but I will definitely go see the other ones.
Very nice purchase!
How much do these cost on average?
900 - 3000
how much do you pay for buy the title please, i´m very interested
Beautiful belt sir. How much was it if you don’t mind me asking?
"The key to Brilliance is simplicity" -Bruce Lee. I just ordered a SD from Pakistan. I'm jealous. Shoulda researched a little.
Who was the maker?
my God this is amazing! Great buy . Hope to find something of that quality for my next belt.
do you think it is better than your Dave Millican?
@@naitch1761 First off, I love this belt, but if I'm gonna be honest, no for these two reasons:
1. The main plate is not as curved as my Milican was. The curve on this belt is just a hair too flat for my 100% liking.
2. The leather is good, the tooling is great and so is the cut, but the leather is not as floppy as my Winged eagle. (My WE leather is REALLY floppy)
The IC leather flops, but I belive the leather is too thick for it to truly flop around. Huge difference between my winged eagle and IC.
But you can't tell any of that when it hangs beautifully on a wall. The plates are excellently etched and every bit as deep and detailed as my old Milican!
@@johnjon246 thanks brother. I'm like you I love a good curve on my main plate.
John, another George Clooney review! I have to believe with all the knowledge I have gained in the hobby that in 2021. Classic Shields makes the best belt. I even believe in my heart that Corey King from Championship Dreams orders plates from Classic Shields and put the belt on his own leather, he even adds a 1 piece belt tip from belt performance. IMHO nobody makes plates any better then CS. Your tag belt is probably the nicest etch belt I have ever seen! Your triple crown is the same as mine. My only suspicion is the lack of curve in plates, but great belt. Let me know about CD vs Classic shields, which way would you go?? Thx
Did Championship Dreams shut down?
They're down, they're back, they're down again. I have no idea. Lol
@@johnjon246 damn ._.
does he still take orders
Not too sure
Man… you still got a Overseas belt lol. It came out about CD being like classic shields plates. Still a nice belt tho
Is this for sale?
You can't afford it
@@johnjon246 lol…good answer
Is this IC belt for sell?
No it is not
Do you know where I can get the IC belt from ?
@@kevinparks7310 you can get ANY belt from either classic sheilds or ORM belts.
@@johnjon246 how can I get the belts from classic sheild or orm?
Holy cow man. I gave you the names. Google it.
What a beautiful belt.
Also WWE shop belts aren’t etched at all they are cast mold plates made from pot metal.
Omar quoted me 700 to a winged eagle. Does that sound right ?
It sounds about right
Would you mind sharing how much you roughly paid for this?
I paid about $700. This belt was purchased second hand. If you are looking to get this belt from the maker himself these days it might be in the ballpark of 1000
I think the Blue...could be darker
..just my own op.
I kinda agree with you.
3:58 Yes 😃
Looks great
Those are beautiful belts there! I dont have instagram or facebook but how much does orm or championship dreams belts cost. The ic and winged eagle only.
ORM = 1250
Champ dreams = ??
I bought the IC belt second hand and not directly from championship dreams. But my guess is that the IC would cost more since the plates are made in america.
MrJuanderfull Thank you. Very helpful.
Crisp.👌
3:52. You're welcome.
For what?
Not gonna lie my wwe intercontinental legends Edition etching is almost as deep. Your border lines on the main plate may be a bit deeper but not by much. Im in no way bashing your belt its gorgeous the intercontinental is one of if not my favorite of all time. Id say I like yours over mine its something about the main plate shape and size thats more on point than the wwe shop version. Anyways damn nice purchase enjoy that belt man it's a classic.
I have to say...of all the belts that the wwe shop puts out....the IC belt is by far the best that they sell. I have never seen a legends version of this belt, but the belt on the white strap that they sell looks really good. Throw that belt on real leather and most people wouldn't be able to tell the difference
@@johnjon246 The legends Edition is basically the same plate wise to the white strap version. Only difference is the wwe logos. The Legends version has the old block style just doesn't have the F on it unlike yours. The etching on yours is crisper the wwe shop etching seems rounded off. Im about to get it releathered with a Paul Martin strap that simulated strap on it looks good but you know the rest.😄
@@jasonkidd1689 Gotcha. I've seen and compared my belt to the legends belt and while the legends belt has better etching than its predecessor, it's still not as deep as an american made boot.
@@johnjon246 If you dont mind what's the measurement on the main plate hight and width of your Intercontinental belt.
nice ic bellt
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Championship Dreams gets their plates from Pakistan. All that American made talk is just wrong. Nowadays Corey orders plates from Custom Shields and is currently having Romeo Anderson re-leather the CS plates. I don’t know who in Pakistan made that particular belt, but it appears on par with a Classic Shields, so it could be them for sure. Far from an American belt maker though. This has been verified by multiple actual belt makers in the US. The belt is a nice belt; just wanted to clear up the misinformation. Those are Pakistani plates.
And I've heard the complete opposite from several american belt makers. Think whatever you want to think...but there is no pakistani belt maker who's art and etching looks identical to mine. Show me proof and then we can talk.
MrJuanderfull it’s probably a cast plate like Fandu uses. Those are also made in Pakistan. Keep in mind Classic Shields is a Pakistani company and they make belts on par with Millican etc.
Yeah that belt is made by Classic Shields. I know there work anywhere. I think the reason he thinks that Pakistan belts are bad is because every has an ORM belt. ORM is horrible and there “HD” belts are not actually HD.
MrJuanderfull yeah man those plates are classic shields hands-down
Oh they do, and they are killing it! Their belts are very well made. I'm going to be ordering a classic tag from them in the future
Left side plates are crooked.
How heavy
About 5.2 lbs
Boy, that belt sucks! Lol! Just kidding! Looks like a fine looking belt! Wish I had one in that condition!
Plates are pretty good but not the best. A few plating issues but nothing outstanding. Overall let down imo on the leather job. AJ Gittings if he wants to be respected in the hobby needs a proper stamp
Plating does have some minor blemishes. Overall though etching is Crisp and no wavey plates. The leather could have been better. It's not floppy enough for my liking.
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Yes sir
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Sorry wwe shop belts are way lot better
Hahahahahaha! You're a funny guy. I'd rather have a ring accurate belt with the actual WWF logo than an inferior quality on stiff strap wwe shop version of the belt with the wrong logo.
@@johnjon246 I bet you think those kids on TH-cam that have those walls of “toy” replica belts are soooo cool. We don’t have toys. These are actually trophy belts as in the whole reason wrestlers wear belts to begin with. Trophies were to bulky to carry from town to town so they started with belt buckles and ended up with shields on genuine cowhide bootstrap (after they ate the cow). But hey u keep playing with ur over priced $400 China made toys on plastic straps 🤙🏽🤙🏽
@@johnjon246 sorry John that tagged the wrong guy the previous comment was meant for the kid you replied to. Your trophy belt is 💯 happy you were able to get one man
No, they are not. Not in authenticity or accuracy. Most wwe shop belts look like toys compared to hand crafted belts