YES' Great Comeback: The Making of 90125 (1983) - Episode 1 - Documentary
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- From the initial XYZ jams to Cinema and the Trevors leading 80s Yes into their most successful album to date. 90125 was one of the biggest selling albums of 1983 and here's a dive deep documentary on EVERYTHING that led to its creation. The documentary uncovers the intricate process behind the album’s creation, revealing how Rabin's innovative songwriting and guitar work, coupled with Horn's cutting-edge production techniques, reshaped the band's sound for a new era, blending progressive rock with modern pop elements. #yes #trevorrabin #jonanderson #chrissquire #alanwhite #progressiverock #classicrockband #documentary #80srock
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Bro, you are really doing an incredible job of slowly carving out a place for your work in essential Prog appreciation. If that makes sense. I feel like you are a budding Sam Dunn. I really look forward to episode. You get clips and audio that’s always new to me and I’ve been in the genre since 1978. Hands down, the video you produce is vastly superior than any commercial video documentary of any of these bands. Your sly humor and the excitement you convey when you tell stories about how you made your bones discovering these gems. Nice editing, well written but not boring narration and great pacing. I learn loads each view. Thanks! 🙏
Thank you very much NoShowShattuck. Your feedback means a lot to keep going without Bats from Hell but love for Prog and Classic Rock. Stay tuned for Part 2, as we'll go deep into the music side of things, the compositions and the gigantic TOUR!
Seconded!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Awesome! Are you open to receiving packages from the US? I have a cd I would like to send you.
Yes of course. I have a US address i use for this. Email me at jcm1129films@gmail.com and i'll share it. I thank you in advance :)
Changes is a masterpiece! The whole album is unreal! Changed my musical life!
Changes is such a percussive piece, amazing! Thanks for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2!
When 90125 came out, it blew my mind in a way no album had done for about 7 years.
All of that sappy, crappy music of the '80s was flooding the radio and I thought no album would ever come out by anyone and astound me.
Thank God I was wrong. Yes managed to do it with this album and I went and bought the deluxe added tracks CD with lots of accappella and a few bonus tracks. Now, I love it even more!
Trevor Horn. His contribution cannot be understated. He's a musical genius was the perfect person to act as Producer.
He is , a tremendous CREATIVE MIND! Thanks for watching. Stay tuned for Part 2!
I also like Drama, and the Return Trip of Fly From Here.
Trevor Rabin deserves all respect!
Damn right MICHAEL. Tired of Rolling Stone praising Alex Lifeson so much (another GIANT)....what about RABIN!!!!!
With Yes sound streamlined and on steroids, this album stands on its own or as part of the Yes discography. Its just like Abacab. So different and yet so familiar. Pure brilliance.
Absolutely! Abacab and this one were game changers for both bands, thanks for bringing this up. Hope you enjoy Episode 2!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories You bet! Great as always 😍🤩😍🤩
Brilliant. That sums it up. Abacab was also standalone excellent 😊
@@TheTwangKings Couldn’t agree more!🙏🏻🎧
@@mattleppard1970 that's what a lot of fans don't realize. Many dismiss these albums as sellouts, but they need to understand that all artists need change. Just like Miles Davis with his Bitches Brew album. Old fans hated it, but it made history.
"Beware of 90125"
I've heard people say the same thing about all Collins era Genesis, which is just silly.
I've heard people say the same about Relayer ffs.
Thanks for the video. Some great stuff on that album.
Yes, both 70s and 80s Genesis rocks. I think some fans are too narrow minded but fortunately not everyone is like that. Thank YOU for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Glad to have found you.
I initially found your videos after doing some A/B testing some wretched speakers using In The Light as reference. I mean... 1990s, Sony surround speakers. Not good. Didn't matter though.
It sounded so good even on those garbage speakers, we had to switch to another track.
We kept becoming hypnotized and losing focus. It just sounds too good. IT was funny.
I started watching the documentary and was initially annoyed. I was like: "This is more about their stupid touring schedule".
Then I saw that the running time and the multiple episodes on each album.
I was happy again.
Thoroughness is something I appreciate and prefer, in this age of ever shrinking communiques.
Thank you for your work.
@@mutecartography9707 Zeppelin's 'In the Light' is a trip to Heaven for me!
JPJ is SO bloody good I consider him to be one of the greatest musicians of the 60's & 70s worldwide.
Another outstanding episode. I was 10 in 1983. I listened to 90125 and Genesis Three Sides Live almost everyday
A two album combo that ROCKS. I need to spin my copy of Genesis TSL now! Thanks for watching. Stay tuned for Part 2!
When 90125 came out, I remember saying this is the year when Yes sold themselves out just to make money. I also said that this will the end of Yes. I was right.
Well Steve Howe sold out with ASIA first and look at Yes today...sad.!
@@dallasbrunson3677 i loved three sides live
Remember when that Album came out, picked up tickets and went to the CNE Grandstand to see YES LIVE for this tour. IT was amazing!! TO this day still one of my fav concerts. Not sure if folks that weren't around then realize how HUGE this album was at the time. Funniest part was you had the original Yes fans Love it and all the young kids who thought YES was a brand new amazing band! LOL
Looking at the touring dates in 1984, listening to the bootlegs and the music market back then, i am SURE it was a hit. You are right this definitely made new fans think YES was a new band, and there's nothing wrong with that. RABIN saved YES!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories remember it was late summer and the Canadian National Exhibition was on so it had to be within the last two weeks of August. Also remember the Encore they played Roundabout and the crowd who was on their feet most of the show went CRAZY!
Would love to get a bootleg of that show if you know there is one out there. Thanks for your dedicated work. Being a Zep Lover, Page was my early Guitar inspiration, ended up playing in a Zep cover band for spell. Cheers Brother!!
I found the bootleg you are looking for. There's a download link! Enjoy! forgotten-yesterdays.com/downloads.asp?ftype=1&qsectionid=11&qdownloadid=748
I love Hearts - the rhythm section behind the guitar solo ❤
I actually LOVE that part, it's HEAVY as hell. It's just the happy part were Anderson goes Two hearts are better than one....Thanks for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2!
Tony Kaye was very involved with Hearts. One of my faves!
It's one of my favourites from 90125, it's like Awaken crossed with a power ballad.
Saw them play 90125 live in Dortmund. Wonderfull concert
@@rikske1960 I saw the 90125 tour at Pine Knob (Michigan)
The "9021live" tour was an incredible experience!
I saw that on TV around the time I discovered Close to the Edge. Both styles of music blew me away, and as I became a big fan, I knew they were diverse and loved/love it all
Each Yes album is a mood. Sometimes it's a Fragile day, sometimes it's a Talk day, CTTE evening by the fire, etc. It can't be understated how this album opened the door to that generation discovering the earlier classics. 90125 is a great open road spin. Excellent doc!
As much as I appreciate the greatness of their 70s prog classics, my love of 80s rock and big production triumphs. Before I talk to Yes fans , I always preface the conversation with “90125 is my favorite era of Yes and nothing anybody can say will deter me”..
Great doc JCM, Big Generator doc was a treat as well, can’t wait for part 2.
Your docs enhance my love of my record/cd collection.
Recovering from surgery, your docs and enthusiasm help pass the time.
Thanks again
Thanks so much Rick! I wish you full recovery and much health man! Let Music be Much Healing Force!
@ Rock on JCM , thank you !
I was 13 when 90125 came out. It utterly blew my mind. I listened to it obsessively. It was my gateway into the old yes catalog - “Classic Yes” came next and I was addicted. I then went down the “The Yes Album”, “Fragile”, and “Close to the Edge” Rabbit hole, and I was changed as a human being.
90125 is an amazing album, it just has to be taken in context. And I’m sorry, but “Hearts” is the best song on the album, and a true Yes song in the classic Yes vein.
Another often overlooked gem is Jon’s “Song of Seven”. There are some rough spots, but there are also some truly magical moments.
You got Classic Yes next, i just got it on cassette tape, it's a GREAT Compilation. I can only imagine how you felt discovering these albums. Hearts i like the EPIC parts, the happy singing I don't, i've tried trust me!!! Thanks for watching. Stay tuned for Part 2!
You make the best music documentarys on TH-cam!!
Thank you very much! Making more coffee now for Episode 2 coming up :)
Trevor Rabin was a genius in a weird period. He kind of really bridged the 70s into the 80s.
It's very hard to pull off what he did back then, people underestimate him TOO much, specially in the realms of PROG experts. Wish they could sit down and play what Trevor did :)
His sound taste, which he poured into his production tendencies, was abhorrent to me. He had a great voice but his compositions and his way of singing were never my taste.
He brought a lot of money to those guys, but the sound of those two albums became horribly dated almost instantly.
He was given way too much power in my opinion. Of course it was fresh air for those guys, but it was the beginning of the overproduced style, which they never abandoned after that.
But Rabin never recorded an album like Anderson's 1994 Deseo (truly forgettable). Funny how Rabin gets criticized for sounding dated while Jon gets a free pass. Trevor Rabin achieved what very few rock musicians do. His work on and off the stage is TOP. I am not endorsed by him to say this but as a guitarist/composer i cannot ignore the fact he was the John Paul Jones in Yes. And to this day many Zepp fans ignore Jones' legacy.
Robert Plant’s Pictures At Eleven certainly features some fine keyboard playing by Jezz Woodroffe, but this no typical 1980s album to me - it is in fact Robby Blunt’s big come-out moment, and he is spectacular.
Pictures At Eleven is one of my favorite albums from the 80s - and that’s spanning all genre from Allan Holdsworth to Hank Williams Jr.
Robby Blunt is stellar.
Pictures is a favorite of mine. Agree 100% Blunt was Robert's best solo career guitarist indeed. I did a retrospective on Jezz in case you haven't watched it. th-cam.com/video/q82hRFrjmoA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Na-Bs04qTBQTn0K6
Thank you soooo much for this video!!! I knew Trevor was a Monster guitar player and singer, but boy he had an interesting ride in his career!! A very well deserved, about time, recollection of his life! Thank you again JCM!!!!!
Trevor Rabin is a guitar hero. I love how his career really covers EVERYTHING. The fact he went into soundtracks, says a lot. Arranging scores is HARD!
90125 was the release that really got me into the band. I knew of them before then (my dad even had TYA) but 90125 was the one that made me a fan for life.
So cool this album made you a fan for life, the way it should be for GREAT music right! Thanks for watching. Stay tuned for Part 2!
I still have the original vinyl copy of 90125 I bought in college. Led Zeppelin was my favorite band then and up until about 5 years ago, when I rediscovered Yes and. I also saw Yes at a concert at Notre Dame in the late 70's. I wasn't a diehard Yes purist when 90125 came out, and therefore wasn't upset when Trevor Rabin joined the band. I remember watching Owner of a Lonely Heart on MTV the first time. It just rocked. For a rock and roll fan like me, it gave MTV more credibility. Thank you JCM for featuring two of my most favorite bands!
You are 100% right, it gave MTV ROCK it needed. 90125 was a very important bridge for fans across many genres! Thanks for watching. Stay tuned for Part 2 David!
Excellent. I found Close to the Edge, Fragile, and 90125 all at once when I was 16 or so. I was blown away at how diverse this band could be - and accepted all lineups then for the music I loved 😊
I believe both Close to the Edge and 90125 were groundbreaking in their respective decades. Fragile maybe more so that Close to the Edge if you think about it. Thanks for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2!
Up in Massachusetts here there’s a little town about 7 miles northwest of Boston called Winchester. From that town came a man by the name of Jim Mouradian. He worked with his dad in the rug biz growing up. It turns out Jim was a huge Yes fan and bassist. He made a embroidered YES rug and presented it to the band in 1974 at a Boston Garden gig. He then became forever close to Steve and Chris, who’d contact him anytime they happened to be in town. Well FF to the early eighties and Jim started designing his own bass, the Mouradian Reality Bass. First one built went to none other than Chris and can be seen in the “Owner” video. Jimmy had Chris’ initials painted in black atop the army green body color. Tom Hamilton from Aerosmith got one later in the decade too! Jim was a local legend in Boston and sadly passed in ‘17. A dearly missed friend to me he was.
Fascinating! Chris's bass in "Owner" is certainly unique. I appreciate the story of how it came to be.
@@greggildersleeve3484 you’re very welcome my friend. I’m sure you could research Jim’s name out there and gain more info on him. Not only was he the sweetest guy one could ever come in contact with, he was also a fantastic family man and bassist. At the end of his life he’d been playing with blues legend Ronnie Earl. Again, I’m sure you can find him out there on YT and google. I miss him so much!
This is SO cool! I love finding out things like this that never make the R&R biographies. The authors rarely tell us fascinating things like your story.
Chris Squire is a huge influence on my bass playing and one of the greatest ever. I know he said he was in awe of John Entwistle, but I think Chris is definitely the better bassist.
I would have loved to meet Jim Mouradian and bought a rug from him. He could have made me a Turkish type rug.
Is his shop still open?
Thank you so much for sharing your story with us all 😃
@@beatlesrgear well…it was Jim’s dad’s business and is long gone - in fact for the entire time I knew Jim (which was over thirty years,) he repaired guitars. His kid Jon is still in the guitar repair biz too. If you wiki Jimmy maybe you’ll find some info about him and that incredible bass he made for Chris!
Pat Badger from Extreme played a Mouradian bass also.
Bravo! Although I’m a huge Genesis fan, I don’t know much about Yes’s story and their 2nd act in the 80’s. I just know the songs. Looking forward to part 2.
Fellow Genesis fan here, and i do listen to their "pop" era more than the 70s for some reason (have all their albums). Glad you enjoyed this first take into the world of Yes 90125! Thanks for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2!
Really nice documentary. I really appreciate you examining it within the context of the time!
My Pleasure Geoff! Thanks for watching. Stay tuned for Part 2!
Hello José,
It was in January 1983, that I began collecting Led Zeppelin bootlegs, and I also began buying Yes albums. Starting with *The Yes Album* (1971), *Fragile* (1971), and then, *Close To The Edge* (1972).
Listening to ‘Heart of the Sunrise’ for the first time that year, in mid-spring, the song induced a clairvoyant vision of the woman I would meet seven calendar years later - the love of my life - my then-future-wife, Cindy. 🌄🔮👱🏼♀
And speaking of Steve Lukather... I have a funny story to tell. Whilst I was away at several boarding schools in the late 1970s, my first roommate, who was a hardcore Yes fan, kept on putting down the bands TOTO and KISS - and in particular, guitarist Steve Lukather - saying that his guitar parts were rudimental compared to Steve Howe’s more complicated and intricate playing. As for me, even at age 13 going on 14, I was intelligent and open-minded enough, with wide-ranging tastes to take it all in and appreciate all three artists. However, I was not yet fully the avid Yes fan I would eventually become. TOTO had just had their first big hit in the autumn of 1978 with the single, ‘Hold The Line,’ from their 1978 eponymous début studio album released that October.
Anyway, my roommate - he would literally spend hours and hours praising Steve Howe and Yes, while simultaneously criticising the TOTO lead guitarist, saying that the big power chord riff in ‘Hold The Line’ was too simple, and has no imagination or sophistication. LOL!
Now we all know that Steve Lukather is a fine guitarist indeed - and I must mention that he, along with his other bandmates in TOTO were already well-seasoned and established L.A. studio session musicians, playing on countless hit records starting in the mid-1970s: Jeff Porcaro played drums on the sessions for the Steely Dan albums, *Pretzel Logic* (1974), *Katy Lied* (1975), and *Gaucho* (1980) for example. Also, in the 1970s, Steve Lukather played guitar with big-name artists like Boz Scaggs, then in the 1980s, with artists as diverse as Lionel Richie, and of course, Michael Jackson - he played the main guitar riff and bass on ‘Beat It’ - earning the respect of both Michael Jackson and his producer, Quincy Jones - not to mention the millions of Michael Jackson fans and around the world.
As for the album, *90125* - when I first heard it on the FM radio in the fall of 1983, I was at first undecided, but I did end up buying the album for myself before Christmas that year and would go on to purchase and love many more Yes albums. It was so great to have keyboardist, Tony Kaye back in the fold. And I agree, *90125* sounded futuristic back then - and still does today! In 1984, I would go and see Yes perform live twice: First in a huge sports arena in the spring, and then again during the summer at a large outdoor amphitheatre. And one more thing: I prefer the superior sound of the TDK brand of high-bias, IEC Type II audio cassettes - with vintage, Dolby-B noise-reduction audio processing - of course.
Amazing! Amazing! Amazing! Thank you!
Can I suggest a small rabbit hole to dive down into: it has been said by a few people (Quincy Jones included) that the Jon & Vangelis album: "The Friends of Mr. Cairo" (which had the song: "State of Independence" ... which of course was redone by Donna Summer (and as if to 'wink' back at Donna Summer, Jon added the line "Macarthur Park in the driving snow...")) got the attention of the 'Gloved Wonder' who used it for 'inspiration "Billie Jean".
As preposterous as it sounds, the interviews are all out there. Kind of shocking to think that the cute songs Jon and Vangelis did would go on to influence the 'King of Pop'.
JCM - your videos are a real treat! Keep up the awesome work.
M
Friends of Mr Cairo - so good 😊
I checked State of Independence out, and OMG....it's definitely a rabbit hole worth chasing! Quick question, when you talk about the Macarthur Park nod, when did it happen? Gloved Wonder lol, i know who that is. Well Vangelis was a genius so i am not suprised he inspired Thrilling...projects. Thanks for watching. Stay tuned for Part 2!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Check out Friends of Mr Cairo, too
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories :
"Two down there you go
McArthur Park in the driving snow
Uptown they're digging it out
Better lay your claim"
Sounds very cool, but I don't get the Donna Summer connection.
McArthur Park (Someone left the cake out in the rain) came out in the early '70s and I think it was Nilsson who recorded and released it.
I saw the 90125 concert in Denver on a snowy night. Berlin failed to show, because of snow. What a mind blower.
You saw 90125 live, that's AWESOME! No Berlin opening? They didn't have Take my breathe away still, that's interesting! Thanks for watching!
Thanks! Your mention of BEGINNINGS, Trevor Rabin's first solo album, is bringing people to my channel. Because 5 years ago I uploaded the SOUTH AFRICAN version of this album on RPM Records. Which is vastly superior to the worldwide Chrysalis released version, and has different songs, and a different mix.
Oh that's great news! I posted small bits so people want to check out the whole thing. I need to get this on CD. You do great service to the rock community by posting this! Wish i had a South African mix of this masterpiece!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I'm a huge fan of Trevor Rabin, and I've always thought his first album had so much potential. The solo albums he recorded after it, all went for that Foreigner Top 40 rock sound, which is no crime, but his versatility and musical language is just so diverse. But that Top 40 pursuit got him to Chris Squire.
Can't Look Away in 1989 went back to what his first album did. You do great work :D
How strange that ALSO Steve Howe's first album was called "Beginnings". Maybe they discussed that coincidence briefly during the Union tour. :D
"Hold On" was always my favorite track on 90125, but I liked "Hearts" too. I was a huge Steve Howe - Yes fan before 90125 came out, so I get how some people thought it wasn't really Yes, but I liked it for what it was - I always said Yes was one of the few bands that "went eighties" with some style.
Yes and Genesis definitely went eighties in style! Absolutely! I just wish Steve Howe was a good sport about it by the time Union happened you know? I am a classical guitarist too, Howe was an inspiration but man...he should appreciate RABIN hahah.
When this album came out , I had to have it and loved it and also saw the Tour as well.
Wow you saw this tour!!! I've heard many boots from it and WHAT A BAND....WHAT A SHOW! Thanks for watching. Stay tuned for Part 2!
Great presentation of the reawakening of Yes with Trevor Rabin. The historical context was appropriate and the actors such as Phil Carson and Trevor Horn were active to give a push to our beloved artists (T. Rabin, C. Squire, T. Kaye, J. Anderson) to unimaginative heights with the projecs like OU8120. Thank you for your amazing research. Nowdays is very different. We should do all the research, act like the major labels, present our work by ourselves, push ourselves with the "new technology" and wait to see if something will happen. But all these artists - musicians, producers were the musical geniuses.
They were musical geniuses indeed, the more i study the context behind these albums, i am amazed at the INDUSTRY and what it was. Much is said about the gossip and excess but man....THESE Artists DELIVERED the Goods! I am glad you enjoyed the history behind it, lots of hours making this :) Thanks for watching. Stay tuned for Part 2!
Thanks JCM for doing episodes on this iconic album. I was 16 years old and in high school when this came out. I played my album and cassette continuously back then. Not a bad song on it. And, that includes "Hearts".
Hearts is not a bad song, thing is i hate the HAPPY PART lol. The rest is ON point! As always, Thanks for watching. Stay tuned for Part 2!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I can see your point on that.
Trust me, it's not a personal attack on Hearts as a composition. It's just that Anderson could have done so much better. I don't think Trevor Horn was happy...lol.
....... I must confess that I began to watch the video with a suspicious point of view. But I stayed and slowly you convinced me that you did an extensive research about Trevor Rabin's career. Of course I am a big Yes fan and I was disappointed when Steve Howe was not there. We cannot deny the abilities of another ex-Yes man Trevor Horn in the production. But Rabin is a complete musician without any doubt. Though his lyrics are (to my taste) a bit comnercial and clichè- oriented, with the touch of Anderson and Squire the results were simply killer......
SidAlienTV, thank YOU for sticking around and checking the episode. I definitely based my script on my admiration for Trevor Rabin's work, he could do it all. As a classical guitar student in my teens i also have the same regard for maestro Howe. I you tune in for Episode 2 as i'll go deep into the songs!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I will check the Episode 2, and I will congratulate you for the excellent videos (I am already subscribed to your channel)! If you are curious about my Renaissance version of Yes´"Madrigal" (Feat Natalia Nekare) here is the link:
th-cam.com/video/6jSZFl8_Jns/w-d-xo.html
And here the instrumental version:
th-cam.com/video/wUPuSEaKvCQ/w-d-xo.html
You approach your video making like Yes approach a composition. Tight, precise, accomplished and always a masterclass!
Wow, i thank you very much for this. Hope you enjoy Part 2 of 90125!
And The Brilliant Orchestral break in "Owner"
YES! Signature moment indeed! Thanks for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2!
Can't wait for Part Two! 90125 and "Owner" made a Yes fan out of me at age 20. They had the Big '80s arena rock sound of Asia but with a little something extra. I'd never heard anything like "Changes," "Leave It," or "It Can Happen" (still a personal favorite) before. I appreciate this in-depth look at 90125. So many things I never knew before, such as why Tony Kaye left and later rejoined. The detailed background of Trevor Rabin is much appreciated. I see now why he wasn't thrilled to be "joining" Yes; he had so many other options. He contributed so much to Yes, but they contributed so much to him. The original "Owner" is catchy but nothing more. The contributions of Anderson and Horn elevated it to something that stands the test of time.
Hey Gregg! Working hard on Part Two. Man so cool you heard this coming out, wish i was a teen back then. 90125 definitely had a VERY innovative sound to it. I did the background on Rabin because i am TIRED Prog Media and fans push him away like he "ruined" Yes when in fact, he saved the band. Anderson did play a great part on the lyrics but unless Horn and Rabin were involved, it could have been Tormato Part 2 (in terms of sound). The original Owner sounds like an 80s ad for a restaurant or car dealership lol. (the arrangement i mean, the brilliant melody was already there).
Get the Big Generator album.
It is almost as good as 90125, but not quite. But it is a must have for every true Yes fan.
@@beatlesrgear I have Big Generator. While it has a lot of good songs, for me it's less memorable than 90125 or Talk.
Sir what a great vid!! I remember the 80s all too well......if I had one wish, I would take us all back there and put those who did not have the pleasure (and supreme luck) to be a young adult back then in the front of the bus.
As for Yes and prog rock....Trevor brought the goods. But this caused major problems for their older fans. No different than Van Halen when they made "Jump" which was huge for us teens, but the 70s fans hated it.
The thing with prog rockers is that they were intellectual stoners. Think Floyd.
Whereas glam and metal rockers were partying stoners. I was not a stoner, just drunk. A lot. But the 80s were a party!! The 90s turned out the lights with grunge and anger, moody and depressing songs.
Yes got huge due to MTV, not just Rabin. You couldn't have a hit unless you had a hit video for the most part. The 80s were visual whereas the 70s were conceptual. You would hear entire albums played on the radio at night in the 70s. Now you won't hear a song over 3 minutes.
My understanding is Rabin and Howe had huge, HUGE problems. Much like Bad Company (with Brian Howe instead of Paul Rodgers) and Van Halen (with Sammy instead of DLR) a lot of bandmates and fans think bands "sold out' in the 80s. They pretty much did. Jefferson Airplane went to Starship and put out "We built this city" which is pure pop syrup that makes a psychedelic rocker want to almost vomit....but it SOLD. The 80s were about artists cashing in on things they would never do (or wear)......Aerosmith, VH, Heart.....they all changed their tune (literally). They had to. MTV demanded it, and so did the fans. Especially the younger ones and females.
Yes changed and exposed me and others to them. 90125 was a great album, with the 80s techno-sounds. But the 70s stoner fans didn't like it at all. I would prefer to listen to Love will Find a Way than a 15-minute synth jam......
The problem that Howe allegedly had with Rabin was his own fault you know? I will cover this on Episode 2. At least it got YES back in action with the best possible platform. PHIL CARSON from Atlantic was right in making this work! MTV 80s was a product of its time and i'm glad we have albums like 90125 to enjoy! Thank YOU for watching :) Agree that concise songwriting beats 15 minute jams because, not every long jam is really THAT musical after a while.
The mixture of new blood (Rabin!) and classic yes combined with the mastery of Trevor Horn! Looking forward to this JC.
Hope you enjoy this one Thomas!
It's a beautiful documentary about a beautiful band and album.
Thank you
Jose😊
I remember the "Owner of a Lonely Heart" video and the mystery keyboardist/ Eddie Jobson.
Thanks for watching Dan, talking about an album one likes it's so much different than LOVE BEACH haha. Stay tuned for Part 2!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories awesomeness!
Fun fact: Yes is a progressive music act. The early 1980's was an era of progressive pop music. This era played right into the wheelhouses of Yes and Genesis. I was not shocked that they did so well.
I think Yes and Genesis were the guys to do it BEST. Learning to Fly by Pink Floyd never sounded right (and i love it), it's just AWAY from their 70s concept.
a tale of two Trevors ..Cinema was always the stand out track for me
Cinema was a brilliant introduction for their shows indeed. I sense Genesis influences there! Thanks for watching. Stay tuned for Part 2!
This was really interesting, lots of details and great background on the formation of this iteration of Yes. Well done. BTW Sarm is a word not an acronym but it's a tiny detail and doesn't alter the story one bit..
I almost went for SARM instead of the acronym hehe, my bad, but i'm glad you enjoyed Part 1. The second episode is packed as well, premieres Saturday October 12th!
I wouldn't call myself a Yes fan but I DO like some of their records though - "90125" is one of them.
Another excellent video! 👍
An album worth loving and revisiting indeed Andy! Thanks for watching. Stay tuned for Part 2!
Great theme song! You nailed it sound wise, and got very creative! My ears are pleased. 🙏🏽
Thanks so much JOE! I definitely got cue from CHANGES and OWNER of a Lonely Heart, wanted to give my take on these masterpieces. Much admiration i have for TREVOR RABIN! Stay tuned for Part 2!
I was in junior high school and all I remember and all that was stamped upon my brain during the early morning hours is moms cigarettes in the bathroom with the romantics and 90125 blairing on the radio. It was inescapable.
While I'm not a fan of YES, I'll tap a foot to OOALH. Great work as always Jose.
Thanks so much Scott! MORE STUFF coming up! Thanks for watching. Stay tuned for Part 2!
Great episode!
Thanks Drew! Hope you enjoy Episode 2 plus the making of Big Generator all three episodes :)
one of my fave of all-time, my fave yes by-far. that album got my threw a couple of years in high-school with bad mental issues...
Albums that get us through high school will always have a special place. Mine were Relayer and Led Zeppelin III!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories huge album in my life... TY man
I appreciate your own opinion of this topic! I grew up with MTV and I watched their videos and before that I didn’t even know about Yes ?! I definitely became a fan of 90125 and Yes 👏🏾! Thanks 🙏!
You are so welcome! This album still holds up great, much better than Illegal Alien by Genesis i would say!
I learned more on this video than any other that you have put out, WOW!! Thanks so much. So much information to discuss with friends while connecting all these data points! Again thank you....Grace and Love❤❤
Glad it was helpful, gotta love YES right? So many albums, so many treasures. Thank YOU for watching. Stay tuned for Part 2!
I loved the XYZ stuff and I love 90125 too. The first Asia album is also brilliant
Asia's debut is very good, but it's SAD how they lost steam after that!!! Thanks for watching. Stay tuned for Part 2!
Fantastic as always. Thank you for all you've done for multiple fandoms. May you gain 30 more unique pressings of ITTOD!
Thank you very much. Trying out different bands has been a great learning process. I need to get a new copy of ITTOD man...i need it haha.
Great episode with lots I didn't know about, especially Trevor Rabin's early solo records and production. Cheers!
If you can, get Trevor's records, they are SO good. While they may have some tracks thay may not be highlights, it's a fascinating photograph into the monster player he was by 1981 just waiting to be in a band.....so many routes he could have taken! Thanks for watching. Stay tuned for Part 2!
I only got into Yes a few months ago and bought everything up to Big Generator and I think Hearts is the best song on 90125!
Great content, I’m hooked. I’m a zeppelin fanatic too!
Hey you're a Zepp fan too, that's awesome, i will do more Zepp content soon! Hearts i really like the epic / melancholic parts, it's the happy section the one that throws me off, but trust me, after these documentary series, i love it, i really do. Thanks so much for watching!
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The detail you go into is something I didn’t know existed in Rockumentary’s!
I’m obsessed with music and album covers and design! I’m hooked on your channel now.
Best late night drive album... lived in Cali in the 80s, had a fun little RX7, wore out the cassette version. 🎸
Mazda riding to the sound of 80s Yes, sounds like a great night drive Joe!
DOOD!!
YOU are amazing!
Your videos are second to none!
Wow, thanks! Stay tuned for Part 2 of the series, the songs, the tours and more!
It is truly one of Yes' best album. Saw them on this tour in Toledo, OH.
And every time I see Jon Anderson, I remember the late Evangelos Papathanassiou 🥲
state of independence ❤
Vangelis, the MASTER! Thanks for watching. Stay tuned for Part 2!
Olias of Sunhillow
Great job Jose!!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻❤
Thank you!! 😁
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Thank You amigo! Excellent work as ever! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thanks for a great video. I'm with you on Chicago and Meatloaf. Looking forward to part two.
Chicago...man they were truly one of the greatest 1969-1973 then...what happened right? Even Terry Kath felt bad of what they were playing past 1975. Thank YOU for watching Daniel!
Meatloaf's music wasn't very good, but he was an excellent actor.
I wish he would have made more films and concentrated on his acting career. He had true acting talent.
Very fine piece Sir !
That was very informative. Thank you so much.
Thank YOU for watching Paul. Stay tuned for Episode 2!
Cinema was a tour deforce for the ever expanding YES!
Yeah, it's a great opening, sets the mood indeed! Thanks for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2!
I have a couple of funny stories about the 90125 tour. I will share on episode 2 when you cover the tour.
90125 is a masterpiece imo and one of my favorite albums ever made! I also loved Alan Whites drumming and yep Trevor was and is a beast!
The rhythm section of 1984 YES live was ....ABSURD hehe. Great is an understatement! Thanks for watching. Stay tuned for Part 2!
I really like this album! My introduction to Yes back in the fledgling MTV era. I have a German first pressing and it’s one of the best sounding albums in my collection. PS I love It Can Happen. Sometimes great minds don’t think alike!
It Can Happen is a great track, it's just the happy bit in Hearts i Don't like hehe. I need to get a late 80s early 1990s CD pressing, the remaster took an already high treble album into a compression ear bleed lol.
'Hearts' guitar solo, one of Trevor's best, hands down.
It is! The part i don't like is Anderson sappy happy bit! The rest is GREAT.
JCM I realized during this I hadn’t subscribed even though I love your LZ videos. So that’s taken care of and the Cinema analysis is so in depth. The Rabin and Anderson solo records sounding so similar, it just seems in hindsight that this was supposed to happen, and the universe/simulation made it happen.
Welcome to the channel James hehe. Glad you subscribed. Anderson's Animation sounds like 90125 RIGHT? It kinda tells why Big Generator had them fighting on the creative side of things and i wanna talk about that album.. will do, real soon!
Awesome! Do Supertramp! Thank you for this and all your Zep vids. Really enjoy.
Glad you like them! Supertramp, oh man, there's a lot in their story to discuss. Btw i JUST got a used CD copy of 2002's Slow Motion, can you believe i loved it?
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Hmm. Upon your recommendation, I will check it out. I kind of stepped out after Free as a Bird. Which I liked. I was fortunate to catch them in 97. I really enjoyed it, but without Roger and Dougie, it bugged me. Sorry to Ramble on (see what I did there) lol. Really appreciate your stories. 90125 story was on point. They reinvented themselves gloriously. Rock on JCM.
Slow Motion fools you at first. You see the grey cover and think, boring...but it's like a great BAR BAND with no pretentiousness. just playing from FEEL. Give it a chance! Let me know what you think!
Outstanding!!! You even covered the Keith Emerson non project
Add the sound of the greatest drummer since who knows when Stewart Copeland's snare drum. If Stingo hadn't waddled off like he did, we would have had a lot more amazing music from them boys. They influenced all the dinosaur bands, snare sound and Andy's guitar.
@@widescreennavel I think they did the right thing they went out on top… Sting went have to have his fantastic solo career any other guys to do their thing. I think that’s the best way to do it. And Then they had some reunions. It’s all good.
@@JohnnyArtPavlou I passed up the Syncro tour like a fool..."o, they will be back next year" I said to myself...
@@widescreennavel There’s a video of that performance, you can watch it any time. 👍
@MichProgNerd My copy of 'Drama' doesn't have that song. Are you sure it's on 'Drama'??
I'm not a Yes fan ,but this album was popular and I loved the single Owner of a lonely heart, and I bought the album on cassette and I have a copy on TH-cam, and I still listen to the album
What a single right Duane? From a production standpoint it's really one of the all time 80s greats!
Epic documentary as always JCM. To add some personal insights I was 17 when this Yes album came out and was confused and disappointed. It sucked and Roundabout from 1971 was the benchmark. 1980 marked a turning point for Rock and was the last great year for albums: Eagles, Stones Emotional Rescue, Springsteen’s The River, Kinks Low Budget (1979) t Then you get this weird sound, Yes, Asia , Police, even the Kinks release Come Dancing…it was bad…I put this Yea album into the bin of confused attempts to redefine their sound.
I can definitely understand why you would label this as confused but what an attempt, at least the musicianship didn't suffer but excelled right? Thanks for watching. Stay tuned for Part 2!
If you think 90125 sucks, you'd better go back and listen to it again on a decent sound system.
We musicians consider it a masterpiece and it has proved itself to be just that.
How dare you dunk on Chicago, “Hard to say I’m sorry.” How DARE you, sir!
At age 12, 90125 was my first foray into “Yes.” I was backwards compatible with all the old albums and then on to the new. Same with “Rush”. Power Windows was my first intro to “Rush”. And I discovered and ultimately loved all the old and the new. I don’t understand why people can’t appreciate an artist’s growth and adapting to the times.
90125 and Power Windows share some big production 80's DNA for sure- I think it's the kind of sound that kids could get more easily (I'm one of those too).
It's not hard to say i'm not sorry for the Chicago Burn haha. Power Windows is an album i like, much more than some other Rush works imagine! Thanks for watching. Stay tuned for Part 2!
great start to it. looking forward to the rest. would also like to see you tackle supertramp later...
I got Supertramp's underrated album, 2002's Slow Motion, it was on the discount bin at the record store and to my surprise, i liked it!
My personal favorites: TYA, Fragile, C2TE, G4T1, Drama, and then 90210. The first 5 listed are mandatory listening - just like: ITCOTCK, LTIA, Red, Discipline, 3OAPP, and Zoooom by King Crimson. : )
They are mandatory indeed. I have a tough time though with The Yes Album, i prefer their debut and Time and A Word by a mile.
I've seen it mentioned multiple times that the reason the catalog number, and therefore the title, was changed (from whatever it was) to 90125 was because Atco couldnt get the original number synchronized across all their territories. They didnt want to have an album titled 90124 or 80102 to wind up with a catalog number like 84673 in Brazil or Thailand or wherever.
Well according to an author on a book on the album, it wasn't down to the catalogue itself. While you are right these were the numbers on it, it was a matter of preference over the numbers! Still, it's a very OCD detail by them! Thanks for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2!
I'm going to be brutally honest here. When 90125 came out I wasn't up to speed on Yes, I'd heard of them but that was it. The problem was they ran it into the ground, I almost got sick of it. I started paying attention again when Big Generator came out, I loved it. Then started listening some to 90125 songs again and got Union when it came out. That really kick started my fandom for the band, then slowly started collecting all of their music. So I basically like all of the lineups, but especially the "Yes West" lineup from this version of Yes.
Yes West definitely sparked interest for a new generation of fans and that's what Steve Howe had such a tough time understanding. Too bad he doesn't understand the current state of YES pushes people away with those studio albums. Thank YOU for watching!
I was at the super secret warm up gig at Millersville University, about 2000 people in the gym.
Tell me more Andrew! What year, 1984? NICE!
The first song I heard, without knowing who was in the band at the time, was 'Our Song'. Not my favorite, but based on the first guitar break in that song, I would have assumed Steve Howe was still in the band. There was not much as a player that Rabin couldn't do stylistically. Yes, CttE is their masterpiece, but 90125 not only kept Yes afloat for many years, it added a new dynamic. I'm as huge a Yes fan as possible, and I think that album is really well made. (Also of note: Chris Squire says Page swiped the riff for 'Closer' from the first Firm album.)
New Dynamics YES, it added that for sure. I think in the same way Relayer did after Topographic Oceans you know? uh oh i didn't about the CLOSER riff, but well Squire wasn't nice to Moraz...karma? Heheh. Thanks for watching. Stay tuned for Part 2!
What???
How could Jimmy Page swipe a riff from a band he was in?
What does this have to do with Yes??
@@beatlesrgear watch the video. Page is mentioned. Also it was Squire who made that claim about Page. Only they know the truth. It was an incidental comment.
A good way to start the day. Jcm my man
Thanks Justin! Making this has been exciting, it's different to talk an album one actually loves!
my man ,
Your work gets more and more riveting . Kudos . Would love to see you tackle " The Royal Scam " and the absolute sickness that is the Chuck Rainey & Bernard Purdy Express .cheers from America 🇺🇸
Thank you Jeffrey! Man the Royal Scam, wow that's a tough one, would you believe GAUCHO is my favorite by them? Steely Dan has a lot of stories!
+1 Royal Scam content. Wildly underrated record with some perfect songs
AMAZING !!!
Thanks for watching Aldo. Stay tuned for Part 2!
Looking forward to this one!
Btw, at 1:05, closed caption says 1986, while the graphic says 1996.
@@jaywilson7832 thats weird. I said 1996 maybe the caption software picked up my voice saying 1986 but no, it was the mid 90s! Thanks for watching!
OK Sir.. Thanks for showing how Trevor incorporated the Sample sounds into the synthesizer. He's an incredible Producer and Musician. But I love "HEARTS". Even if U don't
I only hate Hearts" happy melody. The rest i enjoy very much :)
I saw them during this tour. I saw them at the Centrum in Worcester in May 1984. The concert was supposed to be in February 1984 but Rabin was injured. Also, during It Can Happen in May 1984, Jon Andersen actually fell through an opening in the metal floor. The other musicians just kept playing after Andersen just disappeared under the stage. They just kept playing the music for It Can Happen. Eventually, Andersen came back up, uninjured but shaken up.
Oh wow, he fell through a door? HOW, that's dangerous stuff. Thanks for watching. Stay tuned for Part 2!
The stage was made of what is called diamond plate metal. There was a square opening on the stage where the one had access to beneath the stage. Someone forgot to replace the lid (a stage hand). At the beginning of “It Can Happen” Jon Andersen started to walk backwards while facing the audience. He fell through the hole. Rabin and Squire got together and looked down the hole, but kept playing the beginning of the song-Then Andersen showed up back on stage to applause and the song commenced.
Robert
I remember that Jon fell through an open grate in the floor. The stage was sort of set up like that warehouse flooring. (You can see it on 9012Live. He was stepping backwards and just dropped like a rock. The band appeared surprised when the vocal part came and went without Jon singing. I remember Trevor and Chris looking down the square opening in the floor. I really thought Jon was hurt. It seemed like it took forever for him to come back up. Curiously, my ticket stub reads February 9, 1984 for the Centrum in Worcester, MA. Apparently that date was cancelled due to Trevor's ruptured spleen (see Feb. 9, 1984 date). I guess the concert was rescheduled for May 12, 1984.
That was awesome, this chapter(s) of Yes has always confused dafuq outta me. Looking forward to finding out if you ever warmed up to Leave It and which of its videos is your favorite. 😉😂
Oh man that's a tough question on my favorite videos Armakk hehe. Thanks for watching. Stay tuned for Part 2!
The last actual classic bit of Yes that didn't need to have a fan defend it to explain why it's ok. It's just good. The vibes aren't quite prime 70's stuff, but it's much closer than people probably thought at the time. It spent a long time sounding very fresh and contemporary and now it's motif is front and central in pop, despite it not really being seen as such, but that OMG 1980's thing the kids think is in, that's very much 90125 and Trevor Horn's production
Trevor Horn's production was KEY. Absolutely! Thanks for watching. Stay tuned for Part 2!
Love your docs, fantastic. Dont know if you're a Rush fan. Would love to see their albums given your treatment. 2112, Hemispheres, Moving Pictures.... I'll keep my fingers crossed. 😁
Hey Mark thanks for watching this one! Oh man i rather be honest i am not a Rush fan BUT i tend to really enjoy their 80s synth era for some reason as well as Counterparts. I would like to cover their final Tour: lots of subtext there!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I'd take what I can get! Thanks again for the awesome vids
Interesting topic
Thanks for watching. Stay tuned for Part 2!
Great album!!
Thanks for watching! Hope you enjoy Episode 2 of this series!
12 minutes and 33 seconds-The lick guitar he used in your acoustic colo on YES tours.
Your guitar sound during "90126" at 5:30 reminds me of Fripp's pin-trumpet sound in "The Sheltering Sky". 🙂
Wow that's so cool, thanks man! I appreciate it.
I love this album. This album achieved what Tomato failed miserably at. 90125 is in my top 5 Yes albums.
Agree with you 100%
I want my part two now. Sung to I want my MTV 😂
It will arrive, worth waiting hehe. Thanks for watching. Stay tuned for Part 2!
"Run with the Fox" has always been a favorite family Christmas tune? 🔥
Or Fox on the Run by Sweet. Both tunes Rock !!!!
It’s pretty much what you would expect a 1980s Yes album to sound like.
Yes but both Drama and 90125 started in alternate universes indeed!
Necessary!
Thanks for watching James. Stay tuned for Part 2!
Can you imagine a *super* group with Jack Bruce, Keith Emerson, Trevor Rabin and Cozy Powell?? My mind cannot wrap itself around that possibility. Perhaps when AI reaches the singularity, it will devise and compose tunes that will be an amalgam of these four powerhouses' talents. I hope I live long enough to hear that!!
I bet it would have been a killer combo of Rabin and Emerson shredding along Powell's tremendous drumming and Bruce's astute harmonies!
Also Rush released the follow up to the blockbuster Moving Pictures entitled Signals which saw the band use more synthesizers and Geddy Lee singing in a lower octave and eschewing the shrieking he did in the 1970s. Also Supertramp’s Famous Last Words was released and the band imploded as Roger Hodgson quit the band and the band were living a real life Spinal Tap experience of Roger quitting and the fact that manager Dave Margereson was ousted for Rick Davies’ wife Sue.
Styx would unleash Kilroy Was Here in 1983 and while I love the album if you replace High Time with Renegade it would have been amazing but the trouble was Tommy Shaw was snowblind from his cocaine and other drug addictions and his drinking got out of control so he quit the band and Dennis DeYoung refused to replace him.
What a year, thanks for all these references, they get me into the music rabbit hole to think about the different scenarios. I've never liked Styx, there's something missing for me!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-StoriesThey were a phenomenal band. Listen to pre-Cornerstone they were an amazing American prog rock band but when they went to Europe in 1978 on their first European tour with Dire Straits as opening act the press loved Dire Straits and hated Styx saying they were dinosaurs from a bygone era and Dennis DeYoung read the reviews and was shocked as he was an Anglophile (his four favorite bands were The Beatles, The Who, The Rolling Stones and Pink Floyd while Yes, King Crimson and ELP were in his Top Ten and cites Tony Kaye, Keith Emerson, Rick Wakeman, Rick Wright and Jon Lord as his favorite keyboard players). Plus Styx were pretty much huge here in the States and had success in Europe but changed to survive (as did Genesis, Pink Floyd, Rush and Yes). I recommend Equinox, Crystal Ball, The Grand Illusion and Pieces of Eight as checking out Styx. The Wooden Nickel albums were Kansas before Kansas.
Jose', THIS is what you do best.