Is Honda Elevate Better than Creta? | MotoCast EP - 65 | Tamil Podcast | MotoWagon.
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- Hello MotoFam, Welcome to another episode of MotoCast, First Ever Tamil Automotive Podcast. In this Episode we discuss about the newly Unveiled Honda Elevate SUV
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Hello MotoFam, can see lots of comments that we are negative about Elevate. The fact is we have expressed our views how Honda India has missed a great opportunity with the Elevate which would keep their dealers and Honda India cruise effortlessly with the Hybrid market share. They have the best 1.5L Hybrid which is available in the City.
The Mid Size SUV segment is a lucrative one which can be cracked only if their is something unique that creates an attention to prospective buyers.
Also Honda management has to keep down their ego, come down to the market and sell what the customer needs rather than being adamant on their legacy and values.
I'm not opposing your views. Respect your feedbacks and points and let's wait how it performs in the market.
Aptly reflected my thoughts.. They can provide more variants and let people decide based on what features they want in their cars.. Not launching with hybrid option eventhough they have the tech is a big disappointment..
Agree, thats ok if some specs are not up to satisfied to its rivals, but if price might be 11 to 17 lakhs ex showroom will be a decent price.
Swift response from Azir bro
Yes brother
I m agreed with your openion. As a Honda customer I am also disappointed with the product I have 4 gen city. I am purely waiting for hybrid suv.
Most car adding many Morden features which are less practical use and add more cost on the vehicle purchase. I think honda has not done that...
Truee
Yes, that's true.. there are no such unpractical features provided. But they will still charge u more than their competitors with those features.
Agree..But people nowadays started focusing on features rather than what they required for their practical use.
Ac vents are pretty normal even in top end, seems like brought from alto , Creta base model vents are damm good
Creta fancy toy
Honda is very adament. They should know that people are ready to buy their products. But it should match the competitor's features atleast. If it atleast had Ventilated seats, Air purifier, 360 degree camera, then people will definitely consider even without Hybrid. Wake up HONDA!!!! Grab the opportunity..😮
People would buy Honda for Hybrid not for those gimmicks and features
@@arv1ndgr yes. Other features are just a show man.
No need features diesel or hybrid is needed! Can also offer a turbo petrol as an option, many suv buyers are going for turbo petrols than NA engines nowadays!
360 Camera / Ventilated Seats / Air Purifier, it's just for a show-off;
360 Camera - Without that we can easily park the car with those 3 mirrors and Rear View Camera
Ventilated Seats - Lower down your windows, travel few kms and switch on the A/C and roll up the windows
Air Purifier - Namma Ooru Pollution kooda thaaku pudikka mudiyaadha enna 🤷♂
Enakku therinja varaikkum theva illadha aani
@@vmvirtuals8565 20lakhs kuduthu car vangura apo expect panrathula thapilla! Comfort kaga than car vangurom!
Expecting 25 inch tire and inbuild fridge and. Stove. May be little water tank. Some times we need to use toilet also...
LOL. And it needs to sing lullaby and tell Hinglish jokes and dance if possible. Our car buyer mentality is beyond funny. There is a reason we do not have good choices in cars in india. On one side we have tin cans like the creta and the other, we have unreliable dabbas like the tata/mahindras.
@@pavshan7178 then??? What about 2 wheeler. May be we can use horse, camels and elephants🤣🤣🤣
May be u two can go by walk...and can get all facilities roadside😂
@@mohanm867 u too going walking daily morning instead use it practically ur belly may reduce.
@@veeratamilan5292 truely i am not having belly😂you
Hi Hello I am Vijayshankar Excellent and Top class discussion about Honda Elevate and valuable point and I am disappointed with Honda version something I was expected as your team discussed regd hybrid car as elevate
12:17 very true😂 They did placed the c3 as hatchback and using the same platform anf engine to 4.3meter suv. Only save is c3 aircross will be only powerful 7 seater at that segment since ertiga, triber are under powered and carens, alcazar is pricey
Creta Base Model
1. 6 Airbag
2. All Disc Brake
3. Rear seat Head Rest
4. 60-40 Rear seat
5. Diesel option
Additional - Creta provides the option to upgrade to Top Model Features with 1.5 lakhs (people don't want sunroof options)
Elevate nothing can elevate Honda market....
Creta - The Best!!!!
TRUE 👍 ✔️ 👍 ✔️
You should check city base variant feature. They pack lot of adiquate features in base variant itself. Hope elevate follows the same. Creta is selling 12k units every months, Honda can't compete but good product to their lineup
Then why it is 3 starer in safty
Safety creata 👎
@@thiru1990dinesh bro gnacp sacm bro....onnum 3 month la governmental aguna therium tata safety ya illa therium paarunga😂
Creta 6 airbag,abs,ebs,pedestrian breaking.etc ellam iruku ana 3 star....xuv300 only 2 airbag but 5 star...
U can say chasis different but vibration is transmitter all over...nothing about that man
Honda oda Engine, comfort irukatum... They should feature it according to the Trend, oru feature practical perspective La irukanum....
How maruti adopted , & how Seltos created initial impression
That's a definite Lag of Honda 😢
@@inpursuitofhappiness366 yes I'm not only admitting it to my own view...
But sometimes it'll b an icing on the cake, what if it had some deal breaking point.
Already they dropped the Hybrid version for Elevate, coming to the market of mid Suv after decades & showing tat I too poses something is not a concern, might B those who own Honda r enthusiast will opt for a drive, but the idea is to dominate the market with the best in class N/A engine (this alone proves, but only those who knew they'll prefer, but they should attract the mass market to dominate, we can't afford to lose another OG in the market rather than having a post-credit stuffs 😂)
Thanks for clarifying that 8 seater Innova can be registered for private users.❤
I was about to ask this question to MW team
I have booked this n waiting. City vaanga poitu idhukagah waiting. Yenoda ullah kumurallah appidiye reflect pannirukeenga.
360 cam, ventilated seats iladhadhu varutham dha. BUT, panaromic sunroof ilamah. ADAS ilamah. Oru mid variant irundhu, right priced ah irundha..I will buy it for its refinement, space n comfort. I like the looks
Honda ivtec engine, comfort, reliability speaks/answers for all the critics you mentioned..but what you said is true ..the market is blind towards features now a days..
All companies nowadays have a reliable refined engine spacious Cabin with 6 airbags all disc brake
So this alone can’t be a selling option
Hence it has become feature driver
@@vigneshrheumatologist2751 yes
Should have given Hybrid and Civic 2024 interior, I would have definetly considered in my buying list with the available feature and engine, they should compete with Sub compact SUV's
Had high hopes. When they don’t reveal the price then they are not confident about the product.
Got it
Its just an unveil
Happened with most of the latest cars...VW ,skoda,MS,etc
Maruti disclosed the pricing of Jimny after months. That’s the way the auto industry works.
Motofam - somehow make Honda executives to see this podcast. I felt this podcast is genuine heartfelt expression(grief)from a Honda lover on how Honda May miss a great opportunity.
I cancelled my hyryder booking to wait for Honda SUV. Unless they price competitively it’s going to tough.
Whatever the size, but overall exterior looks like Nissan Magnite. My boss in Singapore he used civic and he is always honda fan. I have rided with his civic many times and its suspension is even stiffer than ecosport.
All your points in the discussion are acceptable & valuabe. In many products, high brands are less featured. Low brands are high featured. They have to compete with high brands, only with luxury features. But due to time cycle, low brands become high brands, & high brands will be out of competition & and market, because of changing generation & mind set of the customers. I expect your sincere feedback.
Hi team
I have heard your first impression on the Elevate was great i am using honda for years considering it
1. Best 1.5 engine smooth can be revved
2. We can talk about features list like missing power seat and ventilator seat and pan roof 360 cam - but consider what they have give is working well enough .good lane watch cam . Will then have good airconditioner it will takel those .what they hava works and useable at all time
Consider this and honda reablitity if the price this on aggressive it will thrive in the market
I hope Honda will into the hybrid on this since already city ehev have good reviews will can hope for it
Hello Aasir Sir.. I hv just checked with Ambatr Olympia showroom.. The salesperson said, obviously it will be priced somewhere from 20L plus.. It was too early for him to even detail on variants..
Asir bro is expressing on behalf of all HONDA fanboys who were expecting so much from them.🥲 #HappyforSuvbutnotsatisfied
Nice review... I feel all players trying to give all features which we don't need for Indian conditions and show us there product is best, keeping the price point high and making us to move towards there marketing strategy. Citroen C3 crack this strategy hope Honda try the same.
Honda Elevate Hybrid is definitely on the cards as they have announced it will come later on.
I think sales have not reached the mark. Ex ehev
@@saravanang2919 yeah Thats true. Honda’s Ehev is slightly overpriced.
Nice words... Thirumba etha poi nama underrated cars la pesuvom...!
Your reviews 💯 correct about current trends
People are expecting more... Honda Elevate is
disappointed modern customers no doubts
I was waiting for this podcast. I was really excited about Elevate as a product from Honda. But my expectations were crushed when I saw the product in its flesh.
I saw few people talk about Honda missing a turbo petrol engine in its Elevate lineup but I don't see turbo engines doing much nunbers in this segment.
Another complaint is that Honda's ivtec NA not having real power/torque figures (atleast in paper). But comparing the NA from other manufacturers, the numbers are relatively better stacked up in favour of Honda. Its about how you have tuned the engine.
The only place where I see Honda is falling short is a hybrid powertrain.
To sum up there is nothing special about Elevate that would pull me closer to it. Maybe a missed opportunity.
Nice video and good analysis...Honda is adamant. Everything will be decided by authorities in Japan...Indian Authorities just listen to them, and do as they say...They see Indian customers very cheaply...Best example is, 12-13L cars with no rear seat head rest...Even after customers feedback they didn’t change rather they stopped manufacturing cars itself…When common man can study market so well cant Honda study?...They know the customer requirement very well but yet they don’t care Indian customers…Very adamant…There concept is I will see like this only and people should buy like this only…Same thing is with 2 wheeler market also…They r happy to get generations of Activa but they are not ready to get CBR series to India…Honda will surely follow Ford’s way in India…
It's just a practical car. It doesn't matter who needs a good car, one that is reliable, fuel-efficient, and offers adequate power for a mid-size SUV. However, due to its small size as an SUV, if a panoramic roof is added, it may compromise structural integrity and raise questions about safety measures. There is no complicated turbo engine, but it provides a good amount of power and smooth refinement with Honda quality, unlike VW and Skoda's new cars. What else do you need? As an Indian, we need to pay 30 to 40% in taxes. Manufacturers have limitations in considering all aspects while producing the car within budget without compromising on quality. Additionally, if we look at the sales volume of hybrid city, it is not good. Moreover, opting for a hybrid may increase the car price and maintenance costs, especially considering the battery pack. Long-term ownership might not be affordable for many, so it's a good thing they haven't included EHV in elevate
Agreed
I would avoid Hybrid for now, coz the technicians in service centers are not trained upto the mark yet. Choose Ivtec you wont regret it. Pricing will decide its success or lose on Sep 4th. Eagerly waiting.
Bro tata prima 3530 tipper review pannunga
Please pannunga
Honda elevate has best ride ,engine,safety features and seating . Not only ventilate seat decide car sales if price is compatative most will buy.
Why no manufacturer considering Plug-In Hybrid for India ? That would make sense with range anxiety
Honda Elevate is big disappointment for me as I was expecting full spec with 360 degree camera, ventilated seats, Panoramic sun roof, full digital infotainment, power seat adjustment, Strong Hybrid and no much variant in engine(turbo option) spec too. . So planned to move towards MG Astor/Hector or Kia Seltos 2023 facelift or Hyndai Creta 2023 facelift.
For me Honda elevate front portion looks like honda pilot in honda canada
Happy with Honda elevate but price should be an concern..
Honda has good reliability and quality whereas hyundai or maruti
Elevate not having rear armrest in mid variants. Only top variant having rear armrest. But creta, seltos, taigun in others having other small essential features for lesser price than elevate
I've been waiting for this discussion since yesterday after launch...
When can we expect the creta facelift unveil? Any ideas?
you are 100% right I was expecting e-hv equivalent Elevate.. but it is a big disappointment. We are still waiting for 4 cylinder hybrid.... in mid size SUV.... LOL
So disheartening to see this kind of criticism from Motowagon. Just like the looks are subjective and personal preference , features also varies as per individual. What if i am just looking for a petrol engine why would i be upset about not having Hybrid engine option ? Elevate is still a decent car with required features. If the price is competitive with Creta , it will still be a hit in long run
They will correct it when they get a car from a showroom for it's review...😂
I think people are looking only hybrids what motowag saying. But honda done a wrong thing. Disappointed with motowagan.
You are misunderstanding their pov. He is telling that like hyryder if they ve launched with hybrid as a variant it would generate even more interest. Look at maruti when they launched 360 camera in all their nexa models after Baleno and many liked that. And people who are willing to spend 15+L will not mind the cost of hybrid batteries
Me personally was also looking for hybrid as there is no diesel from Honda. It's a very sincere disappointment that's been emoted by motowagon ppl! Also esp with features like ventilated seats being deliberately missed to a product which is going to be above 15l bracket is not a simple thing
All I am saying is give it a chance .. why so much negativity around this ? I have seen another vlogger also writing this off already. And you cannot be comparing apples and oranges. It sounds so biased to say something like this. I accept that Honda is trying to play safe but cannot demean a product even before it sees the light . And also features and engine options are personal preference, that doesn’t make it a bad product . If it priced accordingly would bring interest in the market.
Polarised front look
No sunroof
No hybrid
No type c charger
No ventilated seats
No electric adjustable seat belt
No auto hold break
Else
City in a cross over format
Still will do decently if price is set properly and hybrid is introduced soon from the second base atleast
Do or die situation for HONDA.
@motowagon. Elevate will crack the petrol lovers.
Since compared to maruthi/skoda twin, seltos and creta petrol engine, Honda ivtec is a step ahead, so elevate will pick from others petrol suv and also it will increase its own no
Hybrid. They should include it soon, AND GOOD MARKETING IS REQUIRED
lets say if e:HEV is launched in elevate, it will be around 24l on road, then also people will still ask y no air purifier, no panoramic, no ventilated seats? y spend 24laks for this? but fact is e:HEV is far superior and proven product in south east asian markets.. if this market is purely based on features then this will fail or it will sell in some decent numbers.. instead of e:HEV debate, Honda could have bought their 1l turbo engines.. which would have been a refreshing and welcoming change and can be used for sub4m cars like bringing back WRV with 1l turbo.. that will be purely game changer in performance point of view.
@ MOTOWAGON team, good topic for discussion. You were not able to participate in the launch event?
HONDA needs to pick clues from Suzuki, see how they have transformed their product line in terms of features, engine specs, product line-up. I have no doubt Honda Elevate will be an Engineering Marvel, couple of features like ventilated seats, electronic adjustable seats and of course a hybrid could have changed the game. I am hopeful Hybrid will be launched soon. Another area HONDA needs to work is service centers and service costs
Anyone who has fear for life will never buy Maruti. Horrible product and never even go near them.
In terms of safety Maruti has improved a lot, say Breeza, New Baleno, Vitara are safe products
Automakers are hamstrung by supply constraints. Automakers such as BYD and Citroen have been working for more than 7 years to secure suppliers to bypass compliance and regulatory burdens and suffer volume pressure. They have controlled costs but will take them time to spur volume.
It's understandable that buyers are frustrated about manufacturers omitting or doing away with expectations. But a simple dimension change would warrant a complete change in jigs and fixes at the supplier's plant and the only way is to procure from global suppliers and say what they are cheaper. Here comes the Basic Duty that is charged at 7 - 10 percent to level up with local suppliers, further increasing costs. So automakers when deciding to make a car entirely from scratch for a local market are forced to bargain and scramble for parts locally. And there aren't enough local parts manufacturers that will make whatever you want.
The government and the consumers must first take the heel of their necks, relax norms, relax regulatory burdens, and layers of compliance making it difficult for manufacturers to give what y'all need.
Now you may ask how legacy players like Suzuki, and Hyundai despite being international brands scoop out newer cars like a piece of cake. They had the first-mover advantage, and 3 decades of presence have given them their own sweet time to secure vendors. Major vendors such as Rane, ZF, SL Lumax plants adjacent or nearer to their plants, most of them made exclusively for them
Protectionism is killing business common sense. TATAs and Mahindra were though by many they'd die in a liberalized market but survived and thrived to the point they pip their interactional counterparts in sales and features and even performance.
Can i buy alcazar petrol dct or wait for seltos face lift.
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Which model to buy for Hyundai Creta ? And petrol or Diesel which one to pick
How do you justify a 5 lakh rupee difference?
I decided against buying hybrid because it doesn't make financial sense.
You are reviewing this as an enthusiast, not a practical buyer.
Nermayana motofam 😁kadaisi varaikum paathaachu❤️
Rightly Said!! Very Expected Features like Hybrid Variant, 360 degree Camera, Ventilated Seats were not provided!!
I dont think Top Variant will sell much in number. Maybe because of that 1.5 IVTech Engine, people might buy mid variant!
One off the best & safety car in indian road Honda 💪👍
Asir bro, I agree with you that Seltos and Hyundai are more advance w.r.t features and looks perspective. However Players like Honda, Renault & Nissan are few more manufacturers couldn’t build competitive products due to only poor planning and design engineering or Hyundai, Kia and Maruti enjoys any special privileges in India as they have strong base and government support with lot of subsidiaries. I guess this calls for a deeper SWAT analysis.
SWOT analysis
Nan honda amaze vangalam nu nenachitu irundhen. Ipo elevate ah patha apro Honda car vangalamane doubt varudhu. Because ivanga ipdi irundha oru 5 years kulla India vitu poiduvanga. Apro service and spares ku lam nan enga poradhu?😩
let's see the pricing, if the start at 10L end at 15 L still some decent volumes can be made , ventilated seats , panoramic sunroof etc are just a luxury not everyone needs it for an extra few lakhs.
Have you discussed the ground clearance 220m which is a plus for this segment of our road conditions and water logging.. compared to Creta or seltos is less
Creta most selling varients is E and Ex so I would say if elevate is able to match that price give must features under 15 lakhs for petrol, then they will easily sell and for people who want a alternative to creta seltos and grand vitara or hyryder, and as for not giving hybrid I think they want to play safe and maybe they don't want to compete with the top end diesels as of now, because a 1.5 diesel can be compared to hybrid in torque and performance, maybe they would have thought it might not be priced competitive with features, they might wait and introduce
Subscriber la pudikala aana Nan நேர்மையான motofam 😂
Excellent analysis. Honest opinion too. Keep it up.
Eventhough they have a refined 1.5 l N A engine, They would have give a turbo petrol engine for those who look for performance, to give a tough competition among other competitors VW group, Hyundai group,
Maruti has announced Jimny prices. Is it worth buying for the price for urban use? Feel it is not worth the price.
Definitely not
Who know after some more time honda may be come with facelift with all missing futures and hybrid
Should have given hybrid because it's related to mileage n saves money.
Very good analysis Future no focus Honda car industry
My point s top seller in this segment is creta its not hybrid so its clear indian ppl want feature rich car and some decent mileage hybrid resale also has no future so Honda wants if u want ehv go for city,suv means Elevate if elevate available in ehv no one ll buy city ehv ,suv has separate market
You are the blue sattai maran of car review
Whatever you gave the negative comment, Honda has reliability, a Refined engine... Very less mechanical issues when compare with your favorite Hyundai. In elevate you are not talking about the Positive side of the car... Each car has Pro and cons... But you listed only negatives... Why Bro.... Any Revange...?????
i loved the next gen tripod used.
Doordarshan/podhigai la kuda presentation better ah irukkum.. yen ya valathara?
Only selling point of Honda is their reliable engine, stability, steering feedback n build quality.
Bro.. out of everything if Hybrid is being hi-lighted as missing feature then Honda already told that they will start it after 3 years. It will be a plugin hybrid not a normal hybrid. But on a side note people just talk about features which they may not even use to fullest. They just demand features without a practical usable knowledge. Leaving VW/Skoda, Only Honda offers quality in every aspect.
Talk about cars not worry about manufacture's behavior n expectations
Bro younga kitta money iruintha next car enna vanguvinga 🎉 please reply
Honda dealers are happy with 2 Wheeler sales😂
Honda disappointed me i am waiting for book Honda three months but not satisfied ,So i go with KIA or HUNDAI.
kulu kulu seat mukkiam kumaru....
Thirupur mohan ❤
Beautiful coverage
Can you please review Honda CR V? Seems a new model is coming up.
Seriously me and my friends waited for honda suv ....
If u want to crack a competitive market Honda has to offer everything out such as all engine options like Diesel, 1.5turbo petrol, EHEV with all features but once again Honda failed to meet the expected level
Late and no latest car. But in india it is 1.5L NA or hybrid sales depends upon its cost and petrol consumption.
ventilated seats is given in Honda genuine accessories
Nice team work sir
Can we expect another video on Elevate before its launch?
Highly Expected Honda Elevate to become my 1st Honda car buying option...but my dream to own a Honda car disapointed me...Going back to Creta..
Nobody addresses the back seat middle hump. Causes discomfort.... Elevate
Really great explanation
DEF eh pathi can you explain either in shorts or full length video?
DPF bro athu
Elevate its a nice car to see
#Nermaiyaana_motofam 😂❤️✨
HelloMotowagan, I'm your subscriber but I must convey this to you please make the video more crisp to get more views i stopped watching your videos if it more than 20 mts... It was very informative but still you can reduce the time else we do fast forward 🙏🙏🙏
Honda missing options 1. Bose audio system , 2. Air purifier option
Ventilated seats also missing bro
@@manojkumar-cp4mf Yes , Doubt irundadu, Front / back , designla sharp illa 😞
@@saravanagr5301 Enaku pudichu iruku bro..
Road presence nalla irukum...camera la paakardhukum ..nearla paakardhukum ...neariya difference irukum.
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Without hybrid, it is no point to discuss about this elevate, it is just another so called SUV, in addition 1.5 ivtec.
Pure ev is ok for local drives, but for long drives hybrids are needed, can't wait for charging in traffic conditions.
For example,by considering if we take from coimbatore to Bangalore, we need min of 15k to 30k turbo charging points, with space for leisure.
Or else, automated battery replacement subscription model needed to be implemented. Way too pricey infrastructure.
Very much expected :) timing
I would still go for Creta, because Elevate neither offers hybrid to match the Japanese nor features to match Koreans.
Creta safety only just 3 star. Honda is more than 4 star
Yes you should buy creta hybrid 5 star😀
Yes this is copy of all cars
MG grill, kicks allows, seltas rear, Taigun rear view. Underrated car elevate bcs no ventilated seats 💺 cooled glove box 📦 and some unique features.... seriously Honda elevate underrated car
1:53 100% I agreed
Honda may think to exit slowly from India...may be they think there products not suitable for India. But without market analysis Honda may not do anything as we think.
I was also eagerly waiting for hybrid from Elevate, a big disappointment.
en manasula iruntha baarame koranjiduchu. #nermaiyana_motofam
(5 per ku naa enga poga, naan than account create pananum :P)
Do they have Hybrid in any of their "Run about" vehicle ?