Oh God...I always thought it was "nobody does IT like Sara Lee" which is also true, and not a double negative. They should just switch... Also, there is much debate going on here. I am Hank...
@Mental Floss with regards to 6:20 , The slogan is perfectly fine as is. If you were to eliminate the double negative by replacing both words with positive counterparts, it would read: "Everybody does like Sara Lee". Which is again a perfectly fine, if uninteresting slogan.
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The earls of sandwich lived in the building that is now my school! The picture they used of the fourth Earl is hanging up in the entrance hall, and I tour-guide round the building on a Sunday afternoon. I am also very proud to announce that I was head of the Montagu house, named after the family of the earls of sandwich! Having John Green discuss something so close to home for me is awesome!! Thanks John!
Always learning new stuff. I’ve definitely heard of Nellie Melba (because I’m Australian), but I had no idea she had food named after her. Kind of bummed Pavlova didn’t make the list.
Also, Mrs. Fields was a ball girl for the Oakland Athletics in the late-1960's. On a semi-related note, in the mid-1970's, the same team hired a then-teenager named Stanley Burrell to be the owner's "eyes and ears". The players nicknamed him "Hammer" because they thought he looked like MLB legend Hank Aaron. He later became known as "MC Hammer".
4:00 John, you are a reasonably smart fellow, however, that is not a pun. sounding it as "nope unintended" grasps at a play on words, but not all wordplays are puns.
here are some from my country, Hungary: Újházy chicken soup - named after the cook who made it Jókai bean soup - named after the famous 19th century novelist who loved it. Gundel pancakes - named after the restaurant owner who collected special recipes for his business Dobos cake - named after the pastry chef who created it. Esterházy cake - named after Prince Paul III Anton Esterházy de Galántha, diplomat and politician in the 19th century.
A double negative is NOT illegal in English. Children are taught not to use it because so many use it incorrectly. Adults who understand it get to use it for rhetorical purposes.
William Mellis Christie (1829-1900) was born in Scotland but emigrated to Canada at the age of about 19 and founded a bakery that became the largest maker of biscuits in Canada by the 1880's. General Tao's Chicken is named after Chinese military leader Zuo Zongtang (1812-1885), though no-one seems to know why it's named after him.
The French dish 'vol-au-vent' (the puffy pastry is so light, it will fly away in the presence of wind, hence 'vol-au-vent') is called 'koninginnehapje' in Flemish because it was invented at the French court. Konining means queen (hence the name). It looks a lot like the 'chicken a la king' you were talking about.
Hey John!! Here is another one for you. In Chile Barros Luco Sandwich is named after Ramon Barros Luco, Chilean president in 1910. The sandwich includes beef and cheese.
Speaking of apples, McIntosh apples (and the computer that was named after them) are both named after John McIntosh who discovered the hearty, sweet, and bake-able fruit growing on a single sapling in some brush around his farm in Upper Canada in 1811.
"As long as" was originally part of the longer phrase "for as long as", where "long" referred to time, not distance, eg; "My foot has been hurting for a long time. For as long as it continues to hurt, I won't run." The meaning then was "for such time as", or more simply "while". When people shortened it by omitting the word "for" it became less obvious that this conditional only applied to ongoing things, and so people also began using the phrase for one-time conditions to mean "if".
I missed the Tournedos Rossini, which is probably some of the most indulgent food in existence (Tournedos, so beef filet, fried in butter, with a slice of light-fried foie gras, slices of black truffle and Madeira sauce, named after the composer Gioachino Rossini (probably mostly known for the William Tell overture and the Barber of Seville)
I'd like to compliment Mental Floss as a whole for making it a point to at least TRY to pronounce things correctly. As a native, when I heard "Louisville", I was more than impressed. Thanks!
I was at a health food store and I was looking through the magazines (as one does) then I came upon a really interesting magazine and after flipping through a few pages I was like man this a excellent magazine what does one call such a thing? so surprise surprise it was a mental floss magazine I was thrilled because I have heard about it and I never though id see one at my local grocery store but then a saw the price and slowly put it buck but it was still cool to find it
Omg I can't wait for Hank to be old so we can dress him up like Orville Redenbacher and he can sing Orville Redenbacher songs. I have seen the future, and it is beautiful~
Yeah, I was quite surprised at their response to the double negative. The only problem with double negatives is that they are often used unintentionally, leading to statements communicating the opposite meaning to what was intended. Double negatives aren't wrong if they're not used incorrectly. Triple negatives also aren't never not wrong haha.
"Nobody doesn't like Sara Lee" is a double negative used properly. I loved that there was a commonly used example of a double negative done right. I, for one, was disappointed when they changed it to "Nobody does it like Sara Lee."
Looks like people have mentioned Pavlova, but not that it was named for Anna Pavlova. Also yes, it's an Aus/NZ debate over who "owns" it. There was a funny segment on Adam Hills Tonight where Adam got a chef to make both recipes and made his guests blind taste-test them and say which was better. XD
Dame Nellie Melba lived in my home town for a while. JOHN GREEN MENTIONED SOMEONE WHO LIVED NEAR WHERE I LIVED (although at completely different times)!!!
Loved the video, and I don't know the exact rules on the office pork chop party, but I noticed three separate pork references (two bacon, one pork for the Salisbury steak) and only one contribution was made to the piggy bank. Just trying to get you guys to that party sooner if possible ;)
An American physician, Dr. J. H. Salisbury. In the original recipe the steak was mince beef round steak.invented by the Dr for patients who had poor teeth. The only reason that the USDA has to regulate the recipe is because if they didn't food manufactures would get away with as much cheap filler items as they can otherwise. Remember the usually only reason a regulation exists is because someone took advantage of someone else. Also a book called The Jungle.
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How many people noticed that he missed a Pork Pitch during the Salisbury steak info?
Good to see I'm not the only one who noticed he missed it.
+Mazekwon It was torture
They never got their pork chop party
great episode, I love how you crush the childhood so quickly at the end.
Oh God...I always thought it was "nobody does IT like Sara Lee" which is also true, and not a double negative. They should just switch...
Also, there is much debate going on here. I am Hank...
Who the heck is Hank?
Just enjoyed a John Greene/ Mental Floss bingefest! More please!
@Mental Floss with regards to 6:20 , The slogan is perfectly fine as is. If you were to eliminate the double negative by replacing both words with positive counterparts, it would read: "Everybody does like Sara Lee". Which is again a perfectly fine, if uninteresting slogan.
Wow. Youse guys always blow my mind. Thanks to Cast and Crew!! And Hank and John.
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Huh... I always thought the slogan was "Nobody does it like Sara Lee."
I thought of that as well.
Now I'm confused.
The earls of sandwich lived in the building that is now my school! The picture they used of the fourth Earl is hanging up in the entrance hall, and I tour-guide round the building on a Sunday afternoon. I am also very proud to announce that I was head of the Montagu house, named after the family of the earls of sandwich! Having John Green discuss something so close to home for me is awesome!! Thanks John!
He didn't put a coin in the bank the 2nd time he said "bacon"...
When John said "Thanks for watching Mental Floss" I could have sworn he said "Thanks for watching menopause" which I found hilarious.
he does that every time. I think he means it 😂😂😂
Does John realise that every single time he ends the show he calls it "menopause"?
Always learning new stuff. I’ve definitely heard of Nellie Melba (because I’m Australian), but I had no idea she had food named after her.
Kind of bummed Pavlova didn’t make the list.
"It's hard to get a doctor to prescribe the hot beef injections I so desperately need"? Things okay at home?
When I heard that line I paused and came straight to the comments...
Then I read the comments.
Also, Mrs. Fields was a ball girl for the Oakland Athletics in the late-1960's. On a semi-related note, in the mid-1970's, the same team hired a then-teenager named Stanley Burrell to be the owner's "eyes and ears". The players nicknamed him "Hammer" because they thought he looked like MLB legend Hank Aaron. He later became known as "MC Hammer".
"Nobody doesn't like Sara Lee" is litotes, not a double negative.
This channel makes my brain exponentially happier.
4:00 John, you are a reasonably smart fellow, however, that is not a pun. sounding it as "nope unintended" grasps at a play on words, but not all wordplays are puns.
I've seen way to many episodes of Mental Floss with John Green...
I think I have a nerd crush.
The a in à la king should have an accent grave.
avait la king :3 We need to put a needle (the accent grave) because you can't say avait. That's how I remembered it.
You're right I am french and I can confirm that it needs a "à"
THE "NO PUN INTENDED" IS STILL MINDBLASTING, OH GOSH.
Betty Crocker isn't real?!?!? My childhood IS a lie!
What I really learned from this is how surprisingly new many of these foods are. Boysenberries began in 1923? That's crazy!
What? Beef Wellington wasn't good enough to make the list?
here are some from my country, Hungary:
Újházy chicken soup - named after the cook who made it
Jókai bean soup - named after the famous 19th century novelist who loved it.
Gundel pancakes - named after the restaurant owner who collected special recipes for his business
Dobos cake - named after the pastry chef who created it.
Esterházy cake - named after Prince Paul III Anton Esterházy de Galántha, diplomat and politician in the 19th century.
he mentioned pork when talking about salisbury steak and didnt add a quarter. Thats like one tenth a pork chop that wont be in the pork chop party
thanks for watching menopause
your brothers with hank... i love his channel
A double negative is NOT illegal in English. Children are taught not to use it because so many use it incorrectly. Adults who understand it get to use it for rhetorical purposes.
So we can just say "punintended?"
I will never be able to look at Orville Redenbacher without seeing your face now. Thank John for me.
He missed a pork reference when he was talking about salisbury steak. So much for the pork chop party.
😢
He's missed four now in the videos I've watched
Don't forget the hot brown sandwich, it's made with turkey and bacon 🐖
I had a Papa John's ad before this video. I think that is awesome.
THE CAKE IS A LIE
My God I fell in love with this show
every third time you say "mental floss" i think you are saying "menopause" " welcome to menopause"
I burst with laughter when you said Hank looked like Orville Redenbacher. hahaha
6:34 What are you? a Gay fish?
Christa T Probably Fish >>>>STICKS....
Still funny.
I think that makes John Green move up to my favorite Vlogbrother. xD
That was just awesomely funny.
Also, the Webster of Merriam Webster hated the British so much, that's why Americans spell some words differently than the British.
I went to culinary school with a girl named Betty Crocker, it was awesome!
Aw, no Pavlova? Anna Pavlova would be disappointed.
Exactly my thoughts
Mental Floss is one of my absolute favorite series. I really need to subscribe to this magazine. Also...NO PUN INTENDED IS A PUN! o_o
You like fish sticks?
what are you, a gay fish?
When he first said it I heard 'fish dicks', and had to back up the video to figure out what I missed. Whoops.
Well, he did say he desperately needs hot beef injections. :-P
William Mellis Christie (1829-1900) was born in Scotland but emigrated to Canada at the age of about 19 and founded a bakery that became the largest maker of biscuits in Canada by the 1880's.
General Tao's Chicken is named after Chinese military leader Zuo Zongtang (1812-1885), though no-one seems to know why it's named after him.
Awesome video!
Very interesting that many of these seem like they were accidentally invented.
Thank you for the video.
The French dish 'vol-au-vent' (the puffy pastry is so light, it will fly away in the presence of wind, hence 'vol-au-vent') is called 'koninginnehapje' in Flemish because it was invented at the French court. Konining means queen (hence the name). It looks a lot like the 'chicken a la king' you were talking about.
Born and raised in Louisville, and I applaud your pronunciation.
I learned a lot of this from the show Good Eats. Nice to see it was accurate.
New respect for Reddenbacher has been applied to my life.
There are some dishes I've never heard of on this list. Interesting!
Hey John!! Here is another one for you. In Chile Barros Luco Sandwich is named after Ramon Barros Luco, Chilean president in 1910. The sandwich includes beef and cheese.
What about Anna Pavlova!!!!!! Famous ballerina who travelled to Aust?
I have never wondered that until now. Woah.
3:50 you mentioned bacon and didn't put in for the staff pork chop party
BEST EPISODE EVER!!!!! - love a foodie nerdfighter :D
Speaking of apples, McIntosh apples (and the computer that was named after them) are both named after John McIntosh who discovered the hearty, sweet, and bake-able fruit growing on a single sapling in some brush around his farm in Upper Canada in 1811.
Pizza was named after an actual person?! MIND BLOWN.
Just Margherita pizza. Not sure where "pizza" comes from, though.
"As long as" was originally part of the longer phrase "for as long as", where "long" referred to time, not distance, eg; "My foot has been hurting for a long time. For as long as it continues to hurt, I won't run." The meaning then was "for such time as", or more simply "while".
When people shortened it by omitting the word "for" it became less obvious that this conditional only applied to ongoing things, and so people also began using the phrase for one-time conditions to mean "if".
Thanks for answering!!
The only reason I came here was to see where pavlova ranks. Surely this was an oversight!
I need a gif of John exploding his brain.
I don't know about "pumped" but I love the intro. Brief but interesting.
I missed the Tournedos Rossini, which is probably some of the most indulgent food in existence (Tournedos, so beef filet, fried in butter, with a slice of light-fried foie gras, slices of black truffle and Madeira sauce, named after the composer Gioachino Rossini (probably mostly known for the William Tell overture and the Barber of Seville)
God I love Mental Floss!
I'd like to compliment Mental Floss as a whole for making it a point to at least TRY to pronounce things correctly. As a native, when I heard "Louisville", I was more than impressed.
Thanks!
I was at a health food store and I was looking through the magazines (as one does) then I came upon a really interesting magazine and after flipping through a few pages I was like man this a excellent magazine what does one call such a thing? so surprise surprise it was a mental floss magazine I was thrilled because I have heard about it and I never though id see one at my local grocery store but then a saw the price and slowly put it buck but it was still cool to find it
I have never before today heard of the Hot Brown sandwich but now I want one.
The pun bit. It just made me laugh. Genuinely laugh. Oh dear.
john green.....your awsome!!
Dude thank you for saying Louisville correctly. You rock.
Who told you Betty Crocker wasn't real?! The Batterwitch has her gnarled claws in everything.
best mind blown moment ever.
Omg I can't wait for Hank to be old so we can dress him up like Orville Redenbacher and he can sing Orville Redenbacher songs. I have seen the future, and it is beautiful~
As a Good Eats fan, I am cheering.
Indeed! He lives in Indy and has probably heard it correctly enough that he picked it up.
Yeah, I was quite surprised at their response to the double negative. The only problem with double negatives is that they are often used unintentionally, leading to statements communicating the opposite meaning to what was intended. Double negatives aren't wrong if they're not used incorrectly. Triple negatives also aren't never not wrong haha.
THIS INTRO GETS ME SO PUMPED
I like food. I do not wish to participate in angry food discussions, I just wish to profess my undying love of food.
"Nobody doesn't like Sara Lee" is a double negative used properly. I loved that there was a commonly used example of a double negative done right. I, for one, was disappointed when they changed it to "Nobody does it like Sara Lee."
If I ever make a breakthrough dish, I'll name it John Green after my favorite author.
Looks like people have mentioned Pavlova, but not that it was named for Anna Pavlova. Also yes, it's an Aus/NZ debate over who "owns" it. There was a funny segment on Adam Hills Tonight where Adam got a chef to make both recipes and made his guests blind taste-test them and say which was better. XD
I love Mental Floss WEEEEE
My favorite part of this:
"...many parts, and not just cow." was followed immediately by a banner ad for McDonald's.
Ummm, at 1:27, you guys have a Tally Hall trophy. My favorite band... I love you all, mental_floss salon designing staff.
john green........U ARE AWSOME!
I scrolled through the comments section waiting for Homestuck posts and I was not disappointed.
The open left parens in the salisbury steak diagram has given me a feeling of unsettlement and anxiety for the remainder of my day.
Love the mindblow at #14
Dame Nellie Melba lived in my home town for a while. JOHN GREEN MENTIONED SOMEONE WHO LIVED NEAR WHERE I LIVED (although at completely different times)!!!
Sometimes when John says 'thank you for watching Mental Floss' at the end of these videos, I hear 'thank you for watching menopause.'
I thought of this too when I saw the title! Mind you I didn't know some of the American brands myself!
The German chocolate cake thing was on V Sauce 2 yesterday.
Loved the video, and I don't know the exact rules on the office pork chop party, but I noticed three separate pork references (two bacon, one pork for the Salisbury steak) and only one contribution was made to the piggy bank. Just trying to get you guys to that party sooner if possible ;)
You have some amazing catching-up to do. Vlogbrothers is their shared channel and it is wonderful. Go, go to them, Kelly Pratt.
Food was invented by Thomas Foodington when he tried to use a chemical complex of protein, carbs, and fats to energize himself.
He was a pioneer.
I just wrote the exact same thing. I lived near a Sara Lee outlet store all my life and always thought the slogan was what you just wrote.
My mom grew up in Indiana and her house was very close to the Orville Redenbacher popcorn fields.
An American physician, Dr. J. H. Salisbury. In the original recipe the steak was mince beef round steak.invented by the Dr for patients who had poor teeth. The only reason that the USDA has to regulate the recipe is because if they didn't food manufactures would get away with as much cheap filler items as they can otherwise.
Remember the usually only reason a regulation exists is because someone took advantage of someone else. Also a book called The Jungle.
in France "Chicken à la King" is called "Bouchée à la Reine", "reine" meaning "queen" :)