Why the Nissan R33 GTR is a $50,000 Driving Experience - One Take
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The R33 Nissan GTR doesn't get enough respect: The R32 is the lightest, "purest" one, the R34 is the fastest and rarest of the JDM-only Skyline range. But the R33, which is now 25 years old, and legal in the US, gets little love. In order to see what I was missing, I took out my pal Rutledge Wood's freshly imported and serviced R33 GTR for a spin!
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That was a great podcast! Boy he sure makes it tough not to like him! What an awesome guy!
@@cynickicksass Absolutely top-level human.
@@TheSmokingTire Jesus Christ that Twataura podcast was amazing!
@@cynickicksass Anytime we get to speak to a designer it's a great privilege.
@@TheSmokingTire it was a privilege to be hiding in the corner listening in!
"The occasional pops and bangs, but they're real and not programmed"
He's talking to you crackle tune guys
Hate that burble gunshot pops n bangs fad
Funny you say that with a Ford ST as a pic, between those and the new Supra's those are the most obnoxious sounding modern tuner cars.
@@yotday nothing's obnoxious these days unless you make it so or your car is called Lambo or F-Type SVR. Throwing cats and resonators out is what makes these four-poppers loud. VAG bois with their stock DSG EA888's shift overly often to hear that DSG fart because it's the only noise the engine produces 🌚 I'd also add STI's with two-steps to the obnoxious burble tune ricers
I have a tune on my Elantra Sport that has the tuner's "mild" pops setup that is programmed to mimic the factory Hyundai N performance cars. It's not super overpowering and I enjoy it, despite also hating the pops and bangs fad.
@@yotday Only if they are straight piped or have a loud aftermarket exhaust. Other than that they are quite
I really wish people would stop saying the R33 GTR is the “heaviest” of the Skyline’s. The R34 is actually heavier. True story.
The R34 makes more power to compensate. The issue with the 33 is that it’s much heavier than the 32 but doesn’t make much more in terms of power.
@@evasion3280 crank that booost
Sure LOOKS the heaviest.
@@evasion3280 they all ( r32,r33,r34) have the same power what do you mean??
@@dionisis2487 they are officially "rated" at 276 hp but in reality they make between 300-330 crank hp stock.
The Japanese inline 6 needs to make a comeback
Mazda 6 with 3.0L inline 6 and RWD is coming..
@@gigidy5 that’s funny I was looking into that yesterday, they’ve been talking about it for awhile now.
Barra and TVR speed six too!
It never left
@@jul3es47 Toyota and Nissan needs to get back into the game
Unpopular opinion: I'd rather have a R33 over a R32 AND R34 any day
Honestly nothing wrong with it
Factssss
Ok
You do you, man. I'd rather have an R32
I agree.
Rutledge has impeccable taste 👌🏻 Great vid as usual Matt.
He put an LS in a vintage 911? That’s tasteful 🤷🏻♂️
@@evorobin That is in fact tasteless as fuck. Might be fun. But not tasteful.
No kidding, midnight purple too, very tasteful
I really like R33’s design the best. Still sleek like the 32 but a little more aggressive and they’re not as square as the 34. Beautiful car!
Matt, nice to see you review something that is NOT new. I like reviews of low mileage clean stockish cars form the 1990s and 2000s. Please more like this.
We’ll see how it does. It’s much less fun and rewarding to drive old cars than new cars. But if the view counts are way higher for old cars, it might be worthwhile.
@@TheSmokingTire Thats definitely an opinion right there Haha. Numbers dont lie however. Makes sense.
@@TheSmokingTire wait driving old cars is less fun? You only own old cars!
@@TheSmokingTire How much of that has to do with the fact that the press cars you get can be handled with a lot less care on your part? I.e. you can push it harder and "abuse" it more since it isn't someone's pride and joy.
Anyone that watches your channel gets to see you launch control any new car that has it, meanwhile, everyone knows 7k rpm clutch dumps on GTR's are amazing, but you're not about to do that to someone's 25 year old gem of a car
@@Wallstreetavarice Exactly this. And I get to take a press car home and do what ever the hell I want with it (within reason) for a whole week. To do a review of a car in just a few short miles of driving, or just a morning, is a checklist. you're just going, "power, suspension, brakes, handling, ride, value." But to take a car home and live with it, you actually learn things and have a more rich experience for the review.
The R33 GT-R is actually the fastest chassis of them all. When the BNR34 came out and started racing in the N1 Japan series, they got wiped off the floor and race teams reverted back to using the R33 GT-R !!! Plus, even chief engineers at Nissan have described the 33 as the "most brutal at the limit".....
this is my favorite skyline. just love the eyes. idk its chill and aggressive.
Agree it was back when Nissan made damn good looking cars.
Same here man. This car has amazing proportions
For sure! It has some nice and gentle curves, with a good hint at some agression. Not so big of a fan of the 34's more brutish outwards appearance. Although they are still nice looking cars.
It's even better looking with the later/optional xenon/projector headlights.
R33 has my favorite front end, but I prefer the rear of the R32.
I owned a ‘93 R33 GTSt years ago, very nice car too. They have beefier seats than a GTR, but I did lengthen the seat rails 4 inches and installed a deep dish steering wheel. I’m 6’8” and did fit very comfortably after that mod.
Hi Matt,
Reason why the R33 feels light and very direct compared to the r32 is because R33 is actually not the heaviest of the 3 Skyline GTRs. R34 was the heaviest.
The R33 was also a ground up new car from Chassis and Aero design perspective (it's not just a wider longer shell on r32 chassis). Probably why the r33 was not considered by many prospective buyers to day, but now that budgets are forcing prospective buyers to look at R33s, the facts get highlighted and R33 is seen for what it was, i.e. an aerodynamic, agile beast which broke records and left competition in the dust.
I love the R33 the most, because it's the underdog. I also happen to think they look awesome.
I'm not a Nissan fan..... but totally agree and prefer the r33
@@big4g63t DSM guy checking in right here
@@CaptainTonus you got it! 91' in the garage
@@big4g63t same here, '91 GSX
@@CaptainTonus I'm in Va. , tsi awd project, 7th DSM in 20 years....
As a middle child that owns the same "middle child GTR" in LP2, thanks for the review! I daily drove mine for a few weeks and it really is a joy. Best value right now since the majority of R34s for sale are close to double the price of an R33 GTR. Get ready to spend big in 2024.
Crazy that this video dropped just moments after Silverado Canyon burst into flames 😵
I always had the biggest soft spot for the R33.
"it looks too brash and feels too cheap to satisfy those who aren't arch enthusiasts" - words of John Simister, CAR 1998. I do wonder what it might have been like if sold in proper numbers in the UK and the US as you say, especially once the ZX was discontinued. Bit of a Lotus though, I think; a car everyone wants but few buy.
My old school teacher had one of these
Fast wagons are kinda the same way. Everyone seems to want one but no one buys one and once the manufacturers discontinue them everyone gets mad like come on you could have bought one but never did
@@jasondunphy1170 that's awesome
R33 GTR is the underrated skyline! I was never a huge fan either until I saw one in person and had a chance to buy one. I love my R33 GTR V-Spec now, but mind you it's a restoration project like most lol
Gran turismo introduced me to this car. Its always been and will always be my favorite of the skylines. Plan on picking up a vspec soon
Do it. Bought my vspec a few years ago and I'll never get tired of it.
R33’s are on of the best Skylines ever made
My personal favourite
I agree. I love this model. I know r34 gets to be king of most desirable, but I just love the body lines of the r33. Especially the yellow r33 from the first fast and furious movie.
I feel like my personal top 3 skylines are
1.R34
2.R32
3.R33
@@jaylenweera7075 very cliche and typical
Live Oak Canyon Road in Trabuco Canyon, just a little to the south, is more clear if you have to film in the area again.
Facts
Love seeing some appreciation for the R33. My personal favorite GT-R!
Looks like he is driving around the ojai area in california. Its a beautiful drive if anyones wondering
The R33 has been my favorite Skyline since the first time I laid eyes on one.
USD $50,000 for a R33 ... ?? They used to come for $10,000 or less 10 years ago..
If only I was was my age 10 years ago... Alas, my skyline dreams will have to wait.
Yes exactly its extremely hard to justify now after seeing the days when BCNR33 would sit on car lots for months when they were priced at 10k because that was seen as overpriced. GTST R33s were $1,500 cars lol now people are saying the experience is worth the 5x more than they were, hardly.
@@KeenanStyles Exactly... "Back in the days" people prefered a R32 or a R34 over a R33... Or go for the Silvia series...
@@authenticmax6350 actually no. The R32s were 5k shipped out of Japan. The 34s were 20 to 30k shipped. Shipping is no more than 2k Roro St the most
@@Wiggy321 Might be like that in the US.. In Australia or New Zealand .. they have different shipping charges n regulations based on make year, ,engine spec n all...
lookin' good buddy. The GTR33 was the first Skyline I actually fell in love with. It's still 1 of my 2 unicorns.
Love the warmth of the exhaust tone on RB's
This video is literally the answer to one of my Superchat questions. Thank you!
IMO R33 is one of the best cars representing 90's-style
R33 is the first under 8 minutes around the ring. Best chassis of all 3 Skylines
276hp wasnt a regulation, it was a gentleman agreement in Japan, so the different brands wouldnt compete for customers just based on power :D
This cars so beautiful in the midnight purple!! I prefer my Skylines mostly stock as well. Maybe some aftermarket wheels and some carbon lip pieces but they don’t need much. Beautiful machines.👌🏽
I used to import them years ago in australia.15psi boost full exhaust ecu and rotating the cams for extra power.its called a stage 1 so 430hp and with a good clutch and good launch 11.8 on the quarter mile.not bad!
Sweet car and so happy you enjoyed it so much. Definitely a car that would fit well in your fleet
90s japanese cars just rock!
The R33 GT-R was one of my favourite cars from my youth, I always wanted one. They're so thin on the ground these days though, I doubt I'll ever own one. I can't find a single one for sale here in the UK, and there used to be pages of them for sale 10 years, and less, ago. And I miss that California weather! It's currently 28/30f here in England
Came for the Skyline, found out about an amazing belt, left happy......who knew?
Makes me very happy to hear Matt praise my favorite car haha
Matt sings praise to every GTR he drives, always makes me wonder why he never kept his 32 longer.
Cause he drives so many cars and the R32 probably loses its charm after awhile, it is an old car after all
I believe he got out of it for a decent chunk of change and needed more parking space.
Think he said someone made some insane offer for it, and Matt sold it to the guy.
The R33 GT-R is my favorite car with the same age as I am.
10:20 I agree about the hum of the engine, the most fun you can have is driving next to another rb26 powered car and matching rev's so you have an orchestra of engine noise, or if you're slightly off rpm's and it's like one machine fighting another for the noise.
I know Skylines are very new to the USA. But you HAVE to modify them. Stock they are far from that impressive, especially compared to modern day sports cars.
I was hoping for some BALLS commercial.
I had 2 R33 Skylines, they are fantastic cars imo. They look great too i think, better than the R32 :P
R33 with a healthy 450-500hp set up for some back roads is all I need. I personally like the design of it similar to the R35 just that weird bulbous shape intrigues me.
Feeling really good abt my $20k e90 335 after this one. “Matt Farah says its as good as an R33” is going in the BAT listing lmaoo
I was thinking the same thing. Why spend $50k when you could get an E90 that is way better looking and less than half the price.
I bought an F30 I was debating on an E90 335i but I needed a 4dr and I got a good deal on the F30 too
@@itsreallytheo Nice! If I can ever afford it I want one of the f30 M3's. I think they look fucking sick. Hope you enjoy it! I'd been trying to find a clean well maintained low mile e90 sedan for YEARS and in august finally the perfect one fell in my lap for an awesome price and I couldn't say no.
@@bradcomis1066 and its like 20 years newer lmao.
Feeling good abt my $12k e92 335 6 speed. I've seen clapped out ones for like 5k haha
Gran Turismo 1 baby, this was my work horse. Same color and all. Ahh to be 14 again :D
once you replace the steering, hicas are usually non active..there's a sensor for steering angle for the hicas system and hicas friendly steering usually required for the system to work
It just makes all the right noises
Oh my kind of GT-R. My dream would be a midnight purple on with nice rims, 6spd from the R34, lhd conversion and some modern turbo tech.
R33 for $50000 is quite high. I understand why it can be that high since there is so much demand for it. But if you don't want to buy to the hype you can get better performance car for a lot less money.
You finally got to drive one! Good video
The earlier GTR’s are an absolute pleasure to drive. I’ve got over 500 wheel HP in my R32 with upgraded brakes and suspension. @elyasrizkallah if you want to see it on Instagram. It’s a pure, mechanical masterpiece with dominant Motorsport pedigree. The road presence they have is also amazing. It’s unfortunate that Nissan bumped up a rung into supercar territory with the R35. I think they hit the sweet spot in the 90’s with pure analogue drivers cars and the R35 is a step in the other direction. Sure they’re super fast with their split second automatic transmissions an incredible 4wd and stability systems but is that what driving enjoyment is about? Instant shifts and 0-100 times? Not for me. I think Nissan know this too and hopefully the new Z is their step back to bringing the (more) analogue driver feel.
Rut was also host of America bbq tournament or whatever on Netflix. American top gear was my favorite show as a kid
The r33 is my favorite Gtr
Man that color is AMAZING! Almost black but not in direct sunlight...😍
r33 gtr is for sure a must have! great review like always🔥
Always liked the look of the r33 GTR.
I think there needs to be a future podcast so Rut can talk about this car. Love these guys
That's how we decided I was going to have a go! He was on the podacst recently and told me about the car. th-cam.com/video/PpEDAZvshn4/w-d-xo.html
What a nice areea, with the small parking lots for the small car shops, garages, stores and businesses, nice houses, and nice vibe with this narrow smooth road. I guess the ocean is close by, such a nice car and nice area, but I was like, here the populated areas will end, and he will get to a clean road, but it seems there were nice housing areas one after the other, after the other. Nice scenery, bad for testing cars:)
If you like the R33 GTR as a usable daily car. Wait until you discover a Stagea 260rs. The car you can take the kids / family around in and still enjoy an Rb26.
Rut is a lucky man. I love the R33 GTR. Has an ED 209 look from the original Robocop movie. That midnight purple GLEAMS in the sun!
Two of my mates had R32. They are the dogs danglies. That video makes me want one. Always wanted an R34 but never got round to it before the prices went up.
8:54 😂😂😂 a glitch in the matrix
imo the skyline is the first truly modern Japanese car, it feels more like a product of the 2000s.
Not the nsx?
Finally one older car rewiev
By far the most underrated Skyline. Looks so good, I don't get why people don't like it.
The reason people don't like it is simply because it did not fill the shoes of the BNR32 and have any where near the success in motorsports. That is legitimately the only reason. The car as a whole is vastly superior to the BNR32 in every way shape and form being a successor but when you go into something with high expectations not taking into consideration the changes around you whether is in motorsports or even the improving competition that the successor once competed with that creates a misconstrued point of view of the car. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a BCNR33.
The 33 is great. The only reason people hate it is because its got the uglist tail lights of the 3. Imho its the best looking from every angle but the rear and most usable version of the car.
Yesss yess !!!!!
You gotta get one of yours out his way for him or Zach to do a video on.
@@sudzkng7 id be honored if he gave a review of my clapped out ass r33 lol
This is my favourite skyline and coincidentally the only one I haven’t driven before.
I owned a 400bhp R33gtr - wasn't mental or bonkers but very capable and a goddamn epic daily to drive... back when petrol was under a £1 a litre 😕
btw the 33GTR can be turned into an EPIC fast road and track car - equally as much as the others... tons of aftermarket goodies for them - weight can be stripped out. A 6 speed from a 34 gtr drops straight in pretty much and that alone makes it feel like it has gained 100 ft/lbs of torque. Turbo swaps are common... the crank is longnose so isn't prone to crapping itself etc... these things are epic
the one thing i would say is at 3-400bhp you do get fairly bored of these. If you can get a 2 boost setup to go from 400 on low and 500 on high then THAT is alot of fun - especially if you stick a decent set of brakes on (btw the stock Brembos suck.. stick some D2 on there or Alcon or Wilwoods or 35gtr if they will fit).
btw i've owned 4 skylines over about 15-20 years.. and i'm considering a 5th lol... i should really give something else a try but i keep running back to them hehehe!
How big was that rock you hit? That was pretty loud.
The prices for Skylines are just nuts right now. 50.000 for a R33?! Yes it's a low mileage example in Midnight Purple and you could probably get one for around 40.000 if you don't care about colour or rarity but that's still huge money for most enthusiasts. I love that they get more appreciation now that they get older but sooner than later they will be completely unatainable for most people that grew up in the 90's like me and are now just old enough to afford a decent performance car.
Its interesting that you thought the fourtunes ride stiff and are a little bouncy, my GTST currently has the same setup suspension wise and thats exactly my thoughts on them.
R33 was actually faster than the 32 or 34, little do people know. It is the rarest, best looking IMO and has a racing pedigree, unlike the 34.
R34 was used in JGTC though
@@Maxx8666 Oh you're right. Somehow I got misinformed. My bad.
Inline 6’s sound so much better than v6’s! That’s a sick skyline
The R33 has become my fav used to luv the R34 but its boxy the R33 has curves and i root for underdogs
Perfect car
i really hope people keep hating these so the prices dont soar and i can get one
50k godzilla
Matt: It makes a nice little street car.
hahaha
Well the R33 gtr is the best handling gtr out of all.
First road car to run a 7 minute Nurburgring time!
Much better than 32 and 34 performance wise
Thats where you're wrong, a quicker Ring time is irrelevant. The BNR34 is vastly superior to the BCNR33 in every way possible as it is much more refined and has more durable parts. People don't do BNR34 turbos as a OEM+ upgrade for no reason. The Getrag transmission is also vastly superior to the glass transmission of the BCNR33. The Ring time is the only fact you're bringing to the table to back up your claim but yet the BNR34 has fast laptimes on Tsukuba, Suzuka, and Motegi. The BNR34 handles better as well being a shorter wheel base and it does not have as my gremlins dealing with oil pressure issues, constant coilpack issues, and prone to rust as easily as the BNR32 and BCNR33. The BNR34 is the better car. Its not called a successor for no reason. I've driven all 3 and the BNR34 is completely different from the other two just from being newer.
@@KeenanStyles ok Paul walker
Please continue all the hate on the R33 so that I can afford it bc its my favorite out of all the skylines. I need it under $40k for a lower mileage example and I am good.
There's a purple-colorshift r33 here in jersey. Seen it once pulling out of a ferrari dealership and its been on my mind ever since
The very first Skyline GT-R I ever saw in my life was at VIR way back in October 2007 and it was the same Midnight Purple you're talking about. It also had NJ plates!
thats almost identical to my car. hes got good taste.
Imo it is the best looking of all skylines, it surely might not bring the best driving experience but that’s another point.
Pretty sure I saw this car up on the lift at top ranked a few weeks back, pretty awesome, and great group of people over there.
Man that does sound great. Pretty subtle but great.
That is a great car, just saw rut on some cook off show on Netflix.. he's a great host and I made some great brisket.. keep it up guys great stuff
meanwhile in Japan, these cars are everywhere and cost $10k
Not true. Bcnr33s are averaging 3.7m to 6m yen right now in Japan. Gts-ts are running 1.4m yen to 2.7m. Gts around 1m.
Not even close they are going for an average of 3.6 million all day long here
Wow this is literally the exact R33 color I would buy if I could right now. Maybe in the future...
Matt looking good! take care of that health!
that midnight purple is doing things to me
I have no complaints about the r33 there awesome
Jezzz! That looks gooooood! Love that console!
Nice review! I cant want to not be able to afford one now lmao
Nice car. It's no Chevy Beretta GTZ, but... it will do.
Midnight purple r33>>>>>
I like the 33's the best
The car I've always wanted as a child.
Those tight roads remind me of old school San Remo rally stage!