Lesson of Professor Heinrich Neuhaus: Chopin Ballade F-moll (with English subtitles)

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  • Lesson of Professor Heinrich Neuhaus
    Chopin: Ballade F-moll, Op. 52
    Performed by 3rd year student Esja Elinajte and recorded by Pavel Lobanov on February 26, 1962.
    LP, Melodiya
    My gratitude to Nosh (Noshirm) for editing the English translation, as well as Andre (Truecrypt), Erwin (Pianopera), and Nosh for the notes to this video (preface and below)!
    Notes:
    02:41 Neuhaus often uses this term to denote the sense of a “unity of opposites”, a “thesis-antithesis-synthesis”, as it were. A mastery of the pedal is “tricky”. Neuhaus demonstrates what he means, but he doesn't explain it in words. Pedaling is very hard to teach, and requires innate skill, good ears, and the ability to really listen to one’s own playing and instantly adjust to new conditions, pianos, acoustics, and so on.
    08:12 Neuhaus seems to be saying that it is acceptable for the student to play the passage as she had originally, even if he preferred the other version.
    13:14 Rich but not loud, “dense”, a full, sonorous forte.
    14:02 Corot is famous for his use of subdued colors and for the misty, atmospheric effects in his landscape art. His art is ethereal, with subtle highlights. This seems to be the effect Neuhaus is seeking here.
    17:15 Neuhaus was particular about fingering. He esteemed the great Ignaz Friedman, but criticized some of his fingerings in Chopin.

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  • @tyu3456
    @tyu3456 8 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    "It doesn't need to be shown - it needs to be heard." Young pianists today are in sore need of this advice.

    • @klavesin5
      @klavesin5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Absolutely, you are spot on

    • @dwacheopus
      @dwacheopus ปีที่แล้ว

      Especially pianist lang lang

  • @metteholm4833
    @metteholm4833 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I´m reading his book now. Wonderful!

  • @JamesVaughan
    @JamesVaughan 9 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    A master teacher if ever there was one…Neuhaus' ability to reveal all the hidden depths, infinite subtleties and resplendent beauties of this masterpiece is truly the mark of a great pedagogue. And I think it is so true that pedaling is one of the hardest things to teach, requiring not just meticulous listening skills and utmost concentration, but strong intuitive learning skills. Even if this was not one of them, it is easy to see how Neuhaus produced so many brilliant pupils!

    • @metteholm4833
      @metteholm4833 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Neuhaus and Goldenweiser were colleagues at Moskou Conservatory. Goldenweiser went for relentlessly strict disciplin and traditional practice-methods, whereas Neuhaus was very liberal. It was all about the artistic truth (technical studies as well, of course). The two did not get along! At one occasion Goldenweiser (d. 1961) sneered at Neuhaus: "You are a awful (or something worse) person - and I shall NOT attend your funeral". Neuhaus (d. 1964) calmly answered: "But I shall attend yours". He probably did.

  • @ErikBrabantsPianist
    @ErikBrabantsPianist 8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This is absolute gold, thank you so much.

  • @pianist9
    @pianist9 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    No word can describe my feeling at this moment, it is so magical and amazing, seems like traveling with a time machine. Thanks so much for posting and spending time on adding English subtitle!

  • @rutasstarke5682
    @rutasstarke5682 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a phenomenal attention to details of interpretation by the great Heinrich Neuhaus. This recording of his lesson is a real treasure !!!!Thank you so much for uploading.

  • @ji94552
    @ji94552 9 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you so much for the English subtitle.

  • @Florestan1207
    @Florestan1207 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I like his remarks, often very funny and always on the spot. I recognize his way with words from his famous book on piano playing.

  • @funklover24
    @funklover24 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is so interesting and fascinating - thank you so much for uploading.

  • @JuliaPikalova
    @JuliaPikalova 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What a treasure!.. Thank you

  • @tirolerhut79
    @tirolerhut79 9 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    thanks so much for the subtitles - this is such a treasure!
    There is also a lecture of Neuhaus on Schumann's symphonic etudes, if you can find time for another subtitled video :)

    • @tirolerhut79
      @tirolerhut79 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +tirolerhut79 I am also dying to hear Grinberg's comments on Beethoven Sonatas. (there is a recording out there!)

  • @pianist9
    @pianist9 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks so much for this precious audio clip and the translation!! Really appreciate your effort and sharing!

  • @christiankircher369
    @christiankircher369 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Esja Elinatje is a very good pianist . To play this ballade like this not everybody is able to do so peffectly. So what we hear here are the last instructions of interpretation after a long work of study and preparation. the last instructions before going to a piano competition for example or before a recital. its necessary to say this as many people believe this is the only work the great teacher does. They also teach how to play technically and they chose the right fingering and so on. at least the most serious teachers does. and not many are able to do it correctly. Goldenweiser Neuhaus Cortot for example were such great teachers.

    • @alysa683
      @alysa683 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      this is actually Esther Yellin paying (formerly also written as Esja Elinajte), one of the greatest pianists still alive who has never quite made it to the popular mainstream and stardom, however she still teaches and lives in Switzerland. Read about Esther here estheryellin.com/

    • @leo32190
      @leo32190 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Alisa Sedneva no she died by jumping off an apartment

  • @andreaanderheggen4300
    @andreaanderheggen4300 9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Esja Elinajte is an old name version of "Esther Yellin" (Estera Elinaite). She has just recently published new recordings she found after 30 years. She is 75 years old and still lives in Switzerland. For more information about this artist, visit this website here: www.estheryellin.com

  • @musicisgoodforyou5986
    @musicisgoodforyou5986  9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    *****
    Thank you for your kind words, Nosh, as well as your contributions to these projects! My hope is that Russian-speaking listeners will be able to 'decipher' at least some (if not all) of the unintelligible words of this great master of the Russian piano school.
    Yes, Philippe's is a great channel, so "an hommage à Philippe" it is.

  • @christiankircher369
    @christiankircher369 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    its not really a piano lesson its a lesson of interpretation. there are no technical instructions so its for demonstrating the musicality to the public. its much more pleasant work than doing technical instructions and forming the pupil to get the right sound and contact with the piano. Cortot for example did give such lessons to his pupils and his assisatant did the technical workinstructions. Cortot went to russia to show how to play the chopon etudes and had a lot of success with it. the russian pianists were convinced and changed their way to teach these etudes. its chopin technique which is necessary to play this ballade. of course liszt is the same way but the soundresearch of chopin and his legatotechnique is so important.

  • @pianomaly9859
    @pianomaly9859 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the work of translating this. Yellin's playing is beautiful but inhibited here. (Who wouldn't be?!)

  • @canman5060
    @canman5060 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He has written a monumental book on piano playing.

  • @gunayagamaliyeva1708
    @gunayagamaliyeva1708 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    великий маэстро.........

  • @liedersanger1
    @liedersanger1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your comments on Neuhaus’ emphasis on the melodic line and on listening to the inner voices reminds me that he was one of Horowitz’ favorite teachers…

  • @musictop7630
    @musictop7630 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am russian/estonian pianist and it's very interesting to listen this masterclass!

  • @pianopera
    @pianopera 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Maybe not one of Neuhaus's star pupils -- he had so many of them! -- but an interesting lesson for sure...many thanks for translating his illuminating thoughts.

    • @musicisgoodforyou5986
      @musicisgoodforyou5986  9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      pianopera
      It was my absolute pleasure to work on this video, Erwin! Besides from being a great teacher, Neuhaus had a very interesting - and in a way unique - speaking style, which unfortunately might have gotten lost in translation somewhat.

    • @alysa683
      @alysa683 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      this is actually Esther Yellin paying (formerly also written as Esja Elinajte), one of the greatest pianists still alive who has never made it to the stardom. Read about Esther here estheryellin.com/

  • @peterectasy2957
    @peterectasy2957 ปีที่แล้ว

    greatest Ballade by great Neuhas -)

  • @philippebauduin436
    @philippebauduin436 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So inspiring ...to my ear , Kissine and V.Ashkenazy could perfectly render the underlines ...and countermelodies in Chopin's music, so much influenced by JS Bach and W.A. Mozart....spacibo bolshoe

  • @Bokgat
    @Bokgat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is near perfecto cant find many modern (certainly) or past (even) coming close!!!!

    • @epicaunleashed8764
      @epicaunleashed8764 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's because there are barely any people in the whole wide world that can match his level of talent. Not many people are born with the ability to understand music as well as this man did.

  • @danquinn1773
    @danquinn1773 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    17:43 - Capri sun?

  • @mvcpastkambcstccr8563
    @mvcpastkambcstccr8563 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @cescllopis
    @cescllopis ปีที่แล้ว

    What kind of piano is it,please?

  • @אלינורהיצקוביץ
    @אלינורהיצקוביץ 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    З

  • @Bokgat
    @Bokgat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im thinking: shut the F up, she or he is doing a great job, although I saw his point at the start,,,, but near the climax.....Man oh man