I know how you feel dude. I tried to mow my yard with a chainsaw, it was such a pain in the ass. It's almost like the chainsaw was designed for something else.
It definately does start in gear. I have a yz250f strictly trail ride it. Its bone stock besides a brake lever and muffler. Ignore most of this stuff because hes blowing smoke up your butt. Doesnt stall easy has good suspension starts in gear lots of torque and tons of power. Mines an 09 aswell. All of these things hes talking about is user error. Im 6'3 240lbs and its a great bike
I have a 09 250 aswell and its all but stock and the fork seals are blown and it is a rocket ship and has plently of torque down low it power wheelies in 4th gear, im also 6"3 and 85kg or like 200ish pounds
Why not buy a WR 250F ? Wide ratio (maybe up to 6 gears),more low end torque,bigger tank ,electric and kickstarter ,bigger fly wheel ,softer suspension ,ok cons more weight.
I have a 2011 yz250f that I have used for a while now I do desert, very variable terrain, rocky, very sandy or very technical with roots or very high speed flats. I got to the point where the 450s where letting me behind in the flats. Everyone told me to upgrade to a 450, but what I did is a swap the gear box of a wr250f into my yz250f, its a complete beast now, i don't plan on getting a 450 now that get caught up with the big bikes on the flats because on technical and whoops they get smoked. I love my bike light strong responsive and now faster!
People are talking crap, but this seems to be a common thing. People cant go and buy 3 different bikes for different off road styles. Whats more for someone like myself who lives near Chicago, there are a loads of yz250f for sale locally, and not a single wr250r. So figuring out how well you can rock one of these on a trail is relevant.
Agree to all the points here, have owned this model which I have used for Enduro for years, now has Rekluse old Z start and modified suspension and works quite well . Think you can make a 250 F work well for Enduro riding to a certain level, but it just lacks too many features of a true enduro bike, Its really as Vegas explains.
Wow, so much hate in the comments. What's wrong with you people? His video was very informative for someone looking to buy a yz250f. I own a 2012 and have dealt with all the problems he is explaining. Lighten up..
Haha, man, this is a youtube, I'm used to be critiqued one a daily basis. It's ok, sometimes I learn stuff from the trolls but there will always be keyboard worriors.. Thanks for watching tand taking the time to leave me a goos comment. Btw I switched to a yz250fx, and absolutely love it
If u don't like the suspension turn your compression and rebound screws out 4 turns or more if that isn't soft enoth. If u don't know where they are located they are at the top and bottom of both forks and the rear suspension has compression and Rebound screws aswell. I ride a 09 250f in the bush sometimes most of the time on the track I love it for bush and track just adjust your suspension
This should be more like what to consider when buying a bike. These are not cons, these are just things to think how are you going to ride and where. The yz 250f is a great bike, its just not an enduro.
I had a battery die six miles from the truck In deep mud that inhibited push starting because it gummed up the rear tire on the swing arm. I had to push the bike over a mile to find a hill steep enough that I got it bump started but I’ll never buy another bike that doesn’t have a kick start ever again.
@@vegasromaniac I say that only to highlight my belief that having a kickstart is not as negative a feature as I’ve seen a lot of people point out. I’ve always preferred mx bikes over trail bikes or dual sports for trail riding but that’s just because of my ride style. Electric start is cool as long as it works but I don’t think it’s worth it unless paired with the backup. Again just my personal opinion, good video man.
Hi I'm 16 i have a 2009 yz 250f I've been riding for two years now started on a 2008 ttr125 sold for a 2009 crf150rb then sold for my yz250f I ride track and Bush and have no problem tackling bush trails and hill climbs flying through rockey sections I have no problems with exercising my clutch finger haven't stalled my bike in for ever the only downside to the bike is it comes with a hard suspension but you can easily change the compression and rebound to your taste so the bike is not the problem it's the rider in this case
Im 16 and have a 2008 yz250f. i have it for a month now. I used to ride a yz85 its a good track bike but absolutely useless on enduro/trail and now that i ride more enduro then track i bought the 250 and its allot better. Today i went first time for a tight forest trail ride and didnt really have a problem even tho the bike needs allot clutch work skill it dosnt relly bother be as i learned it on the 85 because it neded to be in high revs all the time.where my friend "26 years" on a 2008 rmz 250 had a problem in them trails and stalled allot because of lack of clutch work. I usualy ride in wide open terrain where the top end power is good so tight forest trails were allot diferent then what i usually ride and it was a great expierance. Btw great videos man keep it up
I have the same bike for trail riding and it’s just fine if you know how to work it, enduro def would make life a little easier, I appreciate the light weight of it
Vegas RoManiac I got my yz250f as the yz250fx was out of my budget. Sometimes you have to sacrifice one thing for another, I sacrificed electric start and a wide ration trans for lightweight and snappy power for half the price! I think it works well for trails if your a decent rider, and enduro is obviously easier but if you suck it up and get used to it this thing rips very well on trails!!! Great video buddy
my bike has agressive power mapping and a smaller sprocket and i have not one of these problems riding in trails besides the riding the clutch sometimes
Salut. M-am plimbat 2 ani cu YZ 125 din 2001, dupa ce am trecut de la pinion spate de 48 la 52 dinti, diferenta s-a facut enorma, aveam deajuns ''torque'' :).
I have many of the Sam's problems with my ktm 250sxf. the guy before me gave it softer suspension so that's nice but the short ratio gearbox is the biggest problem for me because I ride mostly fire roads
That white in back days motocross bike for motocross enduro bike for enduro or trail one is to fast for one thing and other is too slow for the other thing
You want a yz250fx....torque, more compliant initial stroke, wider gear box, and lighter than a WR. Put a tusk kit on it, and you can ride it on the street (if you don't live in California). Oh and its FAST.
On my 2010 250f it can handle climbs well but I never use 1st gear cause I loose traction so I go up them in 2nd cause my first gear is short as for no reason
OH MY GOD, KICKING IT ON A HILL, ITS TOLLING BSCK WHAT WILL I EVER DO, IF ONLY THERE WAS AWAY WHERE U COULD MAKE UR FRONT WHEEL NOT MOVE AND BE ABLE TO KICK IT
I dont get #6 cause if you hammer ANY bikes throttle in a higher gear than your speed corresponds, it gonna bog itself down. So why is that a complaint? I dont understand
@@vegasromaniac I still dont get it, in my mind, I'm thinking along the terms that if your going 10 miles an hour and you shift into 3rd or 4th gear and hammer your throttle wide open, no matter the bike, its gonna bog on you and stall out. Or do you mean that it's just easier to do it on the 250f's?
I HATE 4 STROKES! Give me my 2015 12 Year old design YZ 250 2 stroke any day of the week & twice on Sunday! I had a 2011 YZ 250F & hated it, got rid of it after 6 months.
I have a 2013 YZ250F and trail ride it every time I leave the house, just got to be an aggressive rider n work the clutch. If you like getting a work n making yourself a better ride it’s gonna be tuff. It’s just gonna get easier the more you push yourself n your not going to get better or faster if your going to be going slow the whole time and not getting out of you comfort zone
I would like to add that you keep saying it’s made for motocross but you still complain about how it doesn’t work for trail, yes it’s made for motocross, it’s supposed to be on a track or maybe racing around dirt roads, it’s not made for trail riding, at all. It is quite specifically made for racing on a track scenario. Btw the 2013 I think and newer have so much better suspension, I’m planning on getting the same kit and putting it on my early 2004 model.
I have a yz250f. 1 tune your suspension 2 I ride mine in trails all the time and have no issues with torque 3 it’s had enough power where I can be going 1/4 throttle in 5th and pin it and it pick up and wheelie. Maybe you should learn how to ride it and maybe tune your suspension before you say anything about it. 🙄
I think you just don't what you are riding. Give that bike to someone that does and they'll show you that all those cons are just opinions. There is horsepower there, 5th gear will net you 70mph and being a MX bike, there's bottom end as well and more than a trailbike since they are built for torque. Trailbikes are just the tamed versions. If you want power, get a 250 2T but you supposedly don't like those. Those got power, but once that powerband kicks in going up a slope, you'll know it.
You should buy a bike that fits your riding, or learn how to ride it. Suspension is supposed to be set to your riding weight and type of riding that’s on you. Jeezers man
Man you have problems ,if you don't like the bike sell it and go buy yourself a nice enduro bike okay You're just talking shit man that bike has alot of power and tork and great suspension You are trying to give the bike a bad name
Dave White i’m new to the sport and i already know that if i want to mainly ride trails with my yz125 i need a heavy flywheel, change the sprockets and maybe a 18” rear wheel
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I know how you feel dude. I tried to mow my yard with a chainsaw, it was such a pain in the ass. It's almost like the chainsaw was designed for something else.
Well said
ETX MX you're the goat
😂😂😂😂
thats a good ass joke bro😂
This is the best comment ever
I feel you bro. I tried to drink soup with a fork. It’s like forks are not made for soup.
There are TONS of people that trail ride MX bikes and love them. You just have to know what to do
Or a rekluse auto clutch lol
It definately does start in gear. I have a yz250f strictly trail ride it. Its bone stock besides a brake lever and muffler. Ignore most of this stuff because hes blowing smoke up your butt. Doesnt stall easy has good suspension starts in gear lots of torque and tons of power. Mines an 09 aswell. All of these things hes talking about is user error. Im 6'3 240lbs and its a great bike
I have a 09 250 aswell and its all but stock and the fork seals are blown and it is a rocket ship and has plently of torque down low it power wheelies in 4th gear, im also 6"3 and 85kg or like 200ish pounds
I’m 5,2 and I’m gunna get one lol
Have you ever tried to start yours with shoes on? I just picked up a 2011 last night
@@DymaTiizeD my kick start lever ripped holes in my shoes but you can still do it
@@DymaTiizeD i only ride streets and kick my bike in vans all the time
Why not buy a WR 250F ? Wide ratio (maybe up to 6 gears),more low end torque,bigger tank ,electric and kickstarter ,bigger fly wheel ,softer suspension ,ok cons more weight.
ka4172 250 lbs
Because it is more expencive !
These bikes are fun to ride fast. I'll take my old air cooled tractor in technical stuff.
I have a 2011 yz250f that I have used for a while now I do desert, very variable terrain, rocky, very sandy or very technical with roots or very high speed flats. I got to the point where the 450s where letting me behind in the flats. Everyone told me to upgrade to a 450, but what I did is a swap the gear box of a wr250f into my yz250f, its a complete beast now, i don't plan on getting a 450 now that get caught up with the big bikes on the flats because on technical and whoops they get smoked. I love my bike light strong responsive and now faster!
People are talking crap, but this seems to be a common thing. People cant go and buy 3 different bikes for different off road styles. Whats more for someone like myself who lives near Chicago, there are a loads of yz250f for sale locally, and not a single wr250r. So figuring out how well you can rock one of these on a trail is relevant.
It will do it but not easy
Agree to all the points here, have owned this model which I have used for Enduro for years, now has Rekluse old Z start and modified suspension and works quite well . Think you can make a 250 F work well for Enduro riding to a certain level, but it just lacks too many features of a true enduro bike, Its really as Vegas explains.
It's not a trail bike, not made to go slow. Yup, that's been said.
Wow, so much hate in the comments. What's wrong with you people? His video was very informative for someone looking to buy a yz250f. I own a 2012 and have dealt with all the problems he is explaining. Lighten up..
Haha, man, this is a youtube, I'm used to be critiqued one a daily basis. It's ok, sometimes I learn stuff from the trolls but there will always be keyboard worriors.. Thanks for watching tand taking the time to leave me a goos comment. Btw I switched to a yz250fx, and absolutely love it
It will make you a better rider in the long run having to feather the clutch like that and all the other things too.
Don't blame the bike blame the rider
dont hate the player hate the game
Facts
Ever looked into a fly wheel weight? turns the engine into a much more usable platform for slow riding and enduro
Thanks a lot my friend, I appreciate your time and patience
If u don't like the suspension turn your compression and rebound screws out 4 turns or more if that isn't soft enoth. If u don't know where they are located they are at the top and bottom of both forks and the rear suspension has compression and
Rebound screws aswell. I ride a 09 250f in the bush sometimes most of the time on the track I love it for bush and track just adjust your suspension
Put a huge rear sprocket on the rear. Will be easier to climb hills and a ton slower
This should be more like what to consider when buying a bike. These are not cons, these are just things to think how are you going to ride and where. The yz 250f is a great bike, its just not an enduro.
Yep, I loved itx till I got my fx
I had a battery die six miles from the truck In deep mud that inhibited push starting because it gummed up the rear tire on the swing arm. I had to push the bike over a mile to find a hill steep enough that I got it bump started but I’ll never buy another bike that doesn’t have a kick start ever again.
Hmmmmmm
@@vegasromaniac I say that only to highlight my belief that having a kickstart is not as negative a feature as I’ve seen a lot of people point out. I’ve always preferred mx bikes over trail bikes or dual sports for trail riding but that’s just because of my ride style. Electric start is cool as long as it works but I don’t think it’s worth it unless paired with the backup. Again just my personal opinion, good video man.
Hi I'm 16 i have a 2009 yz 250f I've been riding for two years now started on a 2008 ttr125 sold for a 2009 crf150rb then sold for my yz250f I ride track and Bush and have no problem tackling bush trails and hill climbs flying through rockey sections I have no problems with exercising my clutch finger haven't stalled my bike in for ever the only downside to the bike is it comes with a hard suspension but you can easily change the compression and rebound to your taste so the bike is not the problem it's the rider in this case
I have a 203 yz50f and it was geared for supercross which is probably why it is such a speed beast when I barely hit the throttle in first gear.
203 man that's an old bike it's over 1800 years old... Did Jesus ride it? Haha
@@vegasromaniac dont be making front of Jesus
Im 16 and have a 2008 yz250f. i have it for a month now. I used to ride a yz85 its a good track bike but absolutely useless on enduro/trail and now that i ride more enduro then track i bought the 250 and its allot better. Today i went first time for a tight forest trail ride and didnt really have a problem even tho the bike needs allot clutch work skill it dosnt relly bother be as i learned it on the 85 because it neded to be in high revs all the time.where my friend "26 years" on a 2008 rmz 250 had a problem in them trails and stalled allot because of lack of clutch work. I usualy ride in wide open terrain where the top end power is good so tight forest trails were allot diferent then what i usually ride and it was a great expierance. Btw great videos man keep it up
It's not a bad bike..
Vegas RoManiac it relly isn't and i would relly recomend it to someone that wants to ride enduro with low budget
@@acebeta7883 yeah it's a bit of work but will do it. I love that is light, 30 pounds lighter than my yz250fx
Good video, most people don't understand the differences when they buy a bike.
I love how he go it's a trail bike then immediately goes it's a mx bike
I got the same bike n i can make it up any hill
If you want to do both without fuss, buy two machines. One trail bike and one track racer.
I got same bike change the rear sprocket 1 tooth up made some diffrance made 2nd and 3rd gear little closer easer to ride trails
I have the same bike for trail riding and it’s just fine if you know how to work it, enduro def would make life a little easier, I appreciate the light weight of it
Yeah, I loved my bine but than I bought a yz250fx... Fell in love all over again
Vegas RoManiac I got my yz250f as the yz250fx was out of my budget. Sometimes you have to sacrifice one thing for another, I sacrificed electric start and a wide ration trans for lightweight and snappy power for half the price! I think it works well for trails if your a decent rider, and enduro is obviously easier but if you suck it up and get used to it this thing rips very well on trails!!! Great video buddy
Great video thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Glad you liked it
my bike has agressive power mapping and a smaller sprocket and i have not one of these problems riding in trails besides the riding the clutch sometimes
Bro jus give it throttle up the hill climb dont b scared
Salut.
M-am plimbat 2 ani cu YZ 125 din 2001, dupa ce am trecut de la pinion spate de 48 la 52 dinti, diferenta s-a facut enorma, aveam deajuns ''torque'' :).
Never thought id see someone complain about the bike being too fast.
Great informative video thank you very much
Awesome , glad to have you here
Just got an '02 yesterday. Is it expensive to change the front or rear sprocket to slow down 1st?
really the power problem is just a you thing because my yz 250 is a 16 and rips the hell out of hills with ease only thing done is aggressive mapping
How did you get light
I have many of the Sam's problems with my ktm 250sxf. the guy before me gave it softer suspension so that's nice but the short ratio gearbox is the biggest problem for me because I ride mostly fire roads
Yep I agree...
yea i wouldnt get a bike that cant hill climb or go slow, unless it was dirt cheep and the only one i could buy
Some points can be fixed if you change to a 450 on the same model.
Who knows......
Install rekluse clutch, change front gear from 13 to a 14, adjust your suspension or go by a KTM.
Or buy a yz250fx, way better than the KTM.... BTW I bought a yz250fx
That white in back days motocross bike for motocross enduro bike for enduro or trail one is to fast for one thing and other is too slow for the other thing
Have to change the jettings in the carb
I've changed the entire bike, went to a yz250fx, best upgrade ever Efi
You want a yz250fx....torque, more compliant initial stroke, wider gear box, and lighter than a WR. Put a tusk kit on it, and you can ride it on the street (if you don't live in California). Oh and its FAST.
+Tory Taglio yeah I was thinning more like a yz250f with a fx gearbox.. Save 25 pounds
On my 2010 250f it can handle climbs well but I never use 1st gear cause I loose traction so I go up them in 2nd cause my first gear is short as for no reason
You can put 1 tooth higher in the front that will make it better
There is not a power band on four strokes
Give it the beans going up the hill climb and it won't stall😁😁
OH MY GOD, KICKING IT ON A HILL, ITS TOLLING BSCK WHAT WILL I EVER DO, IF ONLY THERE WAS AWAY WHERE U COULD MAKE UR FRONT WHEEL NOT MOVE AND BE ABLE TO KICK IT
if you are not in the right gear the bike wont work properly and that means you're not a good rider.
Mines tuned for racing and I can go up that at the speed with one hand it’s the rider not the bike
Oh yeah?
@@vegasromaniac tell me I’m wrong
I dont get #6 cause if you hammer ANY bikes throttle in a higher gear than your speed corresponds, it gonna bog itself down. So why is that a complaint? I dont understand
That's why people like the 2 strokes, low in the gear they have grunt
@@vegasromaniac I still dont get it, in my mind, I'm thinking along the terms that if your going 10 miles an hour and you shift into 3rd or 4th gear and hammer your throttle wide open, no matter the bike, its gonna bog on you and stall out. Or do you mean that it's just easier to do it on the 250f's?
I HATE 4 STROKES! Give me my 2015 12 Year old design YZ 250 2 stroke any day of the week & twice on Sunday! I had a 2011 YZ 250F & hated it, got rid of it after 6 months.
Oh yeah because obviously that tree just spawns behind you when you are on a hill climb and can't handle the clutch
It should say “5 five things I hate because I don’t know how to ride” lol
Oh yeah?
I have a 2013 YZ250F and trail ride it every time I leave the house, just got to be an aggressive rider n work the clutch. If you like getting a work n making yourself a better ride it’s gonna be tuff. It’s just gonna get easier the more you push yourself n your not going to get better or faster if your going to be going slow the whole time and not getting out of you comfort zone
My crf250r doesnt stall and has enough torque to pull up a tight trail hill.
get a bigger fly-wheel for it, thats what i did to my honda crf150r and is excellent on trails.
It helps but there is a lot more that a trail bike has
@@vegasromaniac true, true, like you said no electric start
@@jimmysmit589 yep... Agreed
I would like to add that you keep saying it’s made for motocross but you still complain about how it doesn’t work for trail, yes it’s made for motocross, it’s supposed to be on a track or maybe racing around dirt roads, it’s not made for trail riding, at all. It is quite specifically made for racing on a track scenario. Btw the 2013 I think and newer have so much better suspension, I’m planning on getting the same kit and putting it on my early 2004 model.
It was an OK bike.. Stop freaking out
Why the hate? How much did YOU know when YOU started riding? I love his videos.
What year is it
08
1. You purposely stalled on the hill climb
2. That’s a race bike it’s not meant for trail riding
3. GET A DESIGNATED TRAIL BIKE like a wr250f
I did, got a yz250fx 2017, and I love it
I know, 4 strokes and not mixing gas
If you can’t blip over a small root than you need to learn all over again on a ttr
hell yeah ttr125 for life
I have a yz250f. 1 tune your suspension 2 I ride mine in trails all the time and have no issues with torque 3 it’s had enough power where I can be going 1/4 throttle in 5th and pin it and it pick up and wheelie. Maybe you should learn how to ride it and maybe tune your suspension before you say anything about it. 🙄
Yeah, you should try a 6 speed trail oriented yz250fx than we talk.. So back at you, try a yz250fx before you talk 😜
That doesn’t really make a point since it’s a cross country bike made for it. 250f are track bikes.
Maybe if you ride it right and stay in the right gear you wouldn’t have the 3 problems your complaining
About!
Yes you are 100 percent correct, I should have called you and ask , my bad
I think you just don't what you are riding. Give that bike to someone that does and they'll show you that all those cons are just opinions.
There is horsepower there, 5th gear will net you 70mph and being a MX bike, there's bottom end as well and more than a trailbike since they are built for torque. Trailbikes are just the tamed versions.
If you want power, get a 250 2T but you supposedly don't like those. Those got power, but once that powerband kicks in going up a slope, you'll know it.
Switched to yz250fx, absolutely love it, all those problems went ways
Just put a Rekluse Clutch in it.
I agree with everything you brought up.
Awesome
Yes Vegas Romaniac i hawe same problem with yz 125 2006 with gearing and suspension. its just made for motocross. But i like mi byke :)
complains about long gearing, then complains about how short the gearing is...
Yea long first short 5th.. Both anyong
@@vegasromaniac yea, but it's built for a purpose and its good at what it was built for.
This is all wrong, I have an 04 and 2010 yz 250f and they kick a$$ anywhere if you know how to ride em
hey what year is that bike?
+Killer Kerbal 09
noice ill be buying a 2012 rmz 250 :3
You should buy a bike that fits your riding, or learn how to ride it. Suspension is supposed to be set to your riding weight and type of riding that’s on you. Jeezers man
Capitalistic lies
Man you have problems ,if you don't like the bike sell it and go buy yourself a nice enduro bike okay
You're just talking shit man that bike has alot of power and tork and great suspension
You are trying to give the bike a bad name
You most likely havent seen my other videos
@@vegasromaniac I'll go and watch it
Fabio doesnt like the yz250f for trails
You got your mean talk out we don't even know each other
Buy a fuckn trail bike then
Get rekluse clutch
Yuck
I'd go 12 mph easy in that 😂😂
Honestly, ride like like u mean it.
Bro is just yapping about his own problems😂 skill issue
It's not orange. :)
just dont use a motocross bike for trails get a trail bike
Lesson from video: ride no less than 12 mph
Yeah under 12mph you always fall off
get a 250fx
Well yeah if you are a slow rider then why are you even riding a moto bike
Just get skill instead of complaining
Change your gears
That's a lot of work and only fixes one of the 5 problems
Use a ktm the yz250f is not a trails bike
I know, still was a great bike, new video coming soon scanning why this bike was great but must have been a fluke somebody made it a trail bike
learn to ride dude ...
get a 50..
Put a rear sprocket with more teeth duh
Dave White I agree 110%
Dave White i’m new to the sport and i already know that if i want to mainly ride trails with my yz125 i need a heavy flywheel, change the sprockets and maybe a 18” rear wheel
Way over exaggerated
What a baby. This is a MOTOCROSS bike. Not built for this. Get a wr250f or ttr230 smh lmao.
I got a yz250fx
YOU JUST CANT RIDE !