What If The Soviet Union Joined The Axis?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- Today, we look at a scenario where the Soviet Union joins the Axis in World War 2. The Soviet Union in World War 2 was part of its own alliance, the Commenturn, which eventually sided with the Allies in order to take down Germany and the Axis. Realistically, a true alliance between the Soviets and Germans would be impossible due to ideological differences. Still, we do know from the Moltov-Rippentrop Pact that they can work together although be it for a short amount of time. But what if they took that pact one step further? What if the Soviet Union officially joined the Axis? The outcome of WW2 would most certainly be different, and we may even have saw an Axis victory. With all that said, if you enjoy this video, make sure to...
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Do Operation Unthinkable, Allied invasion right after Germany surrenders
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well if they did it then it would become operation thinkable
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Continue this alternate history trend, and do it with napoleaonic borders, 1913 borders, 1938 borders, modern borders etc. Also make videos about simple topics which everyone wants to see.
Yeah and napoleonic wars
The USSR actually asked to join the Axis right before the Operation Barbarossa. The petition was ignored by Germany
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Fun Fact: In 1940 the Soviet Union asked Germany to join the Axis and Hitler never responded and ended up invading then. Funny and scary that could’ve happened
2:26 you were missing Sierra Leone 🥰
you have to remember, the Soviets were starving, with dwindling supplies, the US sent extreme amounts of goods, I could recommend a documentary that talks all about how US manufacturing kind of saved the war effort
Nice video! Keep up the good work. And don't forget you can do whatever you want that will make you happy!❤
“I was saving the planet from an Axis of Darkness, while you were back home opening National Parks! Yes!” Winston Churchill
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haha nice reference
I miss the old addizpro map it was more realistic
are you ever going to do World War 1 scenarios that would be super cool to see
Great video man! ❤
Keep going I love it
Wow can’t believe adizz missed Sierra Leone and Trinidad and Tobago. Truly horrifying.
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Absolute travesty! Unsubscribed and disliked. 😡🤬🤬😡🤬😡🤬🤬😡🤬🤬😡😡
Ww1 would be fun to see! Lovely work as always!!!
Hi adizz i stopped watching you for a while now im back your vids are amazing keep going
I think in real life this might have been a draw or a mild axis victory because 1. Britain wouldn't surrender to Germany and since operation Sealion would likely still be impossible they wouldn't even think about it. 2. America would never let the European powers fall to Germany because it benefits them so America would find some reason to join the war
USSR also wouldn’t aid the germans
a soviet german alliance would mean quick defeat for most of europe, i don’t know what you mean when you say the us wouldn’t let other european powers fall, the us had a hard time fighting germany alone, imagine germany and the soviets, how would the us be able to defend any of those european countries
Alternate future of the world season 2!!! 👇
Yea I hoped he’d bring it back today but never mins
What if America joins the axis.
A missed opportunity here was an Afghan invasion of British Raj. Afghanistan used to be a British colony, but they revolted in 1919 and declared their independence, and bad blood between them remained. In the late 1920s, there was a civil war in Afghanistan and the Soviets aided the winning side, creating good relations between them. Germany also made plans to help Afghanistan invade the Raj during World War II. Since the Soviets were at war with Britain, they could ask their Afghan friends to invade the Raj and could have sent Central Asian forces to help. The Soviets, as supporters of third world national liberation, could have then also backed Indian independence groups and the Raj would have fallen with a lot of casualties on both sides.
i love this please keep going!
Interesting i wish the people who subscribed would actually watch you videos!
Its always a good day when adizz uploads.
hey how do you do that microsoft paint. how do you get the world picture?
Continue that type of mapping its great
Love your vids. What if you made a video of america joining the axis!
Video idea: What if the allies invaded the soviets after WW2
My Theory: World War 2.5
Allies would win
Do what you wanna do man maps or gaming or anything else whatever its great!
What is the app you use to make these videos?
Love this vid glad your still doing mapping love it my only complaint is that china is just roc and Tibet since there was cliques and the prc and menkukou aswell as several territories held by Japan also what about tana tuva I would suggest using hoi4 to make these and I’m sorry ik i sound like a hater but I promise I love your content I’m just a bit annoyed by this but you videos are hope u continue your trend ❤❤
You said that you didn't want to be told which territories you missed at the start of ww2 but I am going to ignore that and say that Nepal joined ww2 three days after it started.
What you said at the start is kind of incorrect. Communism and fascism are technically both opposite sides of the spectrum. However, the spectrum works like a circle - the more extreme you get on both sides, the more the sides become more similar to each other. For example, both the Nazis and the Soviets had concentration camps, they both were ruled by dictators and both Stalin and Hitler were very similar in the way they went about their business. They were both totalitarian states.
On that scenario though I think many other countries would be forced to pick up sides faster which would made big difference
3:56 yes
You can also watch zvallid’s version of this, he’s take is quite realistic (NOT SELF PROMOTING)
Make a scenario where landlocked countries dissapear, but doubly landlocked countries stay
Actually Thailand was a axis member so japan wouldn't invade it
Do what if the saar offensive was succesful (idk if i typed that right but its the french counter on germany which didnt work)
So uh….is he gonna stop doing mapping? I don’t mind either way but like- im confused now
Do what if every major possible country in the past 100 years became independent.
as far as I can tell, you didnt miss anything, good job!
Sierra Leone
I want to make some corrections, not to criticise the video, but to improve videos in future.
The Soviets would never be allowed into the Axis. Hitler's main ideological goal from the start was to genocide the Slavic people (AKA the Soviets.) In fact, shortly before Hitler attacked them, Stalin requested the be incorporated into the Axis, but his request was ignored and he never got any response.
When Czechoslovakia was invaded and defeated by Germany, Hungary got involved, taking parts of Slovakia's far East and being the first Axis member that wasn't Germany, Italy or Japan. As well as this, Slovakia was puppeted by Germany after they lost.
Italy only joined the war while France was on the verge of collapse. When the war started, Mussolini stated that Italy would join the war at "an opportune moment" and, therefore, only joined while France was collapsing to avoid the consequences that'd come from joining sooner.
After Italy joined the war, they were actually successful in capturing Somaliland and Djibouti, due to limited allied troops in the area. The area around Ethiopia only began to be invaded in 1941. In a similar vein, Libya only collapsed to allied troops in 1943.
After Denmark was taken, Britain occupied their colony of Iceland, while the US occupied Greenland.
Bulgaria did not join the Axis on their own, they were pressured into joining the war along with Yugoslavia so German troops could use them to march into Greece. Yugoslavia did initially join the war on the side of the Axis for about 4 days, before a military coup destroyed the old government and joined the Allies, where they were subsequently destroyed. Additionally, this all happened after the fall of France.
Before Romania joined the Axis, they were bullied by them and the Soviets for a bit, with Hungary taking Transylvania and the Soviets taking Moldavia.
The island you coloured in at 5:32 is a part of Venezuela.
Soon after the fall of Greece, Iraq joined the Axis after electing a fascist government, but were quickly defeated by the British.
After the fall of France, their colonies, for the most part, did not immediately pledge allegiance to Free France, as the idea did not yet exist, it took 2 months for any colonies (Central Africa and Cameroon) to pledge allegiance. It took until the end of 1942 before Algeria and French west Africa joined the Allies again. Similarly, after the fall of Belgium and the Netherlands, their colonies were directed annexed by Germany.
Even if the colonies did immediately join the Allies again, there is no chance Germany would allow their independence. Germany's aims in Africa were 1) to form the Mittelafrica proposal from the Berlin Conference 2) take back their colonies from before WWI and 3) to turn as much as the continent as possible into slave states and giant plantations to fuel the Reich. Meanwhile, Italy wanted to take all of North Africa, as well as connect it to their colonies in and around Ethiopia to form a Neo-Roman Empire.
Additionally, Egypt had already gained independence from the UK, being essentially a puppet of the Empire. This, however, does not mean that the people would defend against the independence movement, as the nation was already trying to move itself away from the Empire as much as possible. I would argue that, provided it had guaranteed independence, Egypt would willingly give itself over to the Axis troops.
It wouldn't matter if the Soviets were already in the Axis or not, the Germans would absolutely accept Japan into the Axis, as it would provide a better vantage point and/or a distraction for Hitler's planned invasion of the US. Furthermore, Hitler's main ideological goal from the start was to attack the Soviets, meaning that, even if the alliance with the Soviets happened, Germany would plan to betray them in the end, making Japan very advantageous to have in the Axis for an invasion of Russia's far-East.
Japan never invaded Thailand. Thailand """willingly""" joined the GEACPS to assist Japan, mainly because they were scared of them.
Germany could never succeed in Operation Sealion. They had a number of military tests to see what what happen, and the furthest they ever got up to was the Midlands. I can see the reasoning that, it being 1946, the Germans would be in a significantly more powerful position, while the British are far weaker. However, in your situation, the British colonies are still entirely intact. With no Soviet Union, Germany would have attacked British colonies with the same ferocity that was seen during Operation Barbarossa and, I do not believe that Britain, especially in Africa, could hold on to their colonies. Additionally, the Raj already wanted independence and, at the point you're saying here, were only 1 year away from gaining it. This means that Britian's only remaining colonies would be Canada (which could have been attacked by the Soviets in this timeline) and Australia/New Zealand (on the opposite side of the planet.
Germany never wanted to annex France, they knew that, even in a best case scenario, France would still be a huge pain and rebellious province for Germany. It is, therefore, likely that they would only take some North-Eastern lands and lands around Belgium, while Italy took Corsica and the area surrounding Nice.
11:09 Angola was Portuguese.
The British Isles would not actually be broken up as badly as presented here. Hitler saw them as near equals to the Aryan race, and would therefore likely just puppet the country and give unite Ireland.
Germany would likely never create nukes. Hitler saw nuclear science as "Jewish science" and banned development of it.
I hope this helps for future WWII related content for this channel
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Unrealistic because of different ideologies
The Allies in WW2: *COMMIE USSR, DEMOCRAT USA, AND BRITISH AND FRENCH EMPIRE*
Do a map about the seven years war were the others win
it will be very fun
YOU MISSED SIERRA LEONE 😮
I do agree with most of the video, the few things I disagree with is
1: Italy still holding on to Libya, the French and British would've absolutely pummeled the Italian forces in Libya.
2: The French not invading Northern Italy while the Italians were busy with Italian Libya.
3: The invasion of Great Britain, the British would yes might fight a formidable force against the Germans, and Soviets, but Naval wise the Brits would absolutely destroy and Naval force that got sent their way. Yes obviously 1-3 years for the Germans, and Soviets to prepare a navy is a long time. But they still would be no match against the British Navy, The Worlds best Navy at the Time, also Aerial the Brits too would've still stomped the Soviets and Germans. Yes the Soviets had the worlds best Air force, but their Planes, severely lacking technologically wise.
Sorry for the complete rant.
The video was still amazing though, and I hope the West Indies are treating you nicely! 🎉🎉
Love your videos!🩶
Petiton for Adizz to have the US join the Axis
I would like to know what software you use for this
ALLOW ME TO BE EARLY also do what if a ice age happened right now? (just a suggestion)
Plz play more map games I really like watching them
can you make age of history vids again. :)
Great Videos 😀
In every single one of these videos, Northern Transylvania remains Romanian. Also, yugoslavia gets divided incorrectly, the independent state of Croatia is established. I don't know what that rump Serbian state is that Addizpro seems to establish in every WW2 video.
Germany could've defeated UK if they went through Ireland.
Pls continue the Alternate future of the world series
Alternative future of the world season two you probably made a video in
Bring back alternate WW2 seriws
Hi love your channel
Do a zombie apocalypse scenario, it’s the one big category you haven’t covered
Early is insane!!
Welp the Baltic countries are now Balkan according to Adizz ;D
I have so many problems with this video.
Actual problems will have **asterisks**, nitpicks will be left without.
In the video description it is Comintern and Molotov-Ribbentrop not Commenturn and Moltov-Rippentrop
1:00 - You forgot to give Hungary and Poland their land from Czechoslovakia
** 1:30 - No? The Italians would not have joined the axis so soon. Even Mussolini knew that Italy was not ready for such a large war and even with the USSR in the axis Italy would have waited to make sure they join the winning side. I think most people don't realize Italy joined the war only 12 days before France's surrender when it was clear Germany would win.
1:56 - 17 days
3:14 - 6 hours
3:23 - Norway actually held out for longer than most people think. While most of the country was overrun pretty quickly, the Northern half of Norway wasn't taken by the Axis until June 1940
** 3:31 - The Germans have literally zero reasons to hold off on invading France, if anything, they would have done it sooner in this timeline.
** 3:37 - Italy actually did rather well in East Africa during the start of the war. They had managed to seize British Somaliland and the first offensive into the Italian East Africa was all the way in 1941.
** 4:02 - The invasion of Finland started in November 1939... Way before the invasion of Denmark/Norway or the Baltics
4:18 - Not quite
** 4:33 - First of all, the Kriegsmarine would be occupied in the North Sea. Second, the USSR HAD a sizeable fleet in the Baltics. Lastly, at the start of the Winter War, the Baltic Sea had already started freezing over and by mid-winter, no warships would have been able to get through the ice.
** 4:36 - The Soviets plan wasn't to annex Finland. They wanted land to secure Leningrad and to increase their influence. Once Finland surrenders they have no real reason to continue fighting.
** 4:40 - WHAT. Yeah, absolutely not. Sweden had an extremely goal of neutrality and although they gave in to German demands, that was because they wanted to remain neutral.
4:44 - Yeah...ambitions to stay neutral
4:52 - wouldn't really say pressured as both Hungary and Bulgaria wanted to join the Axis
Also neither Hungary, Bulgaria nor the USSR have gotten their land from Romania but whatevs
** 5:23 - Why? Why so late?
5:28 - A couple million Germans
6:26 - The invasion of Greece was long before Yugoslavia
** 6:32 - Why? Turkey was already sandwiched between 3 great powers in our timeline and managed to stay out of the war, what makes this different?
** 6:45 - Did you like, completely forget Vichy France was a thing? If Turkey joined they would have probably still invaded the Levant but it most definitely wouldn't be in the hands of Free France. It would either be in the hands of Vichy France which was Axis aligned or the UK which invaded the region to ensure Egyptian security. Also you never covered anything about Iraq or Iran which most likely wouldn't be able to escape the conflict.
** 6:59 - Egypt and the Egyptians hated the Axis much more than they hated the British
** 7:30 - This was already controlled by Vichy France. There was no need to invade here.
** 8:00 - If they didn't attack Pearl Harbor then they are not fighting the same enemy. Also, just fighting the same enemy is what happened in our timeline? Where...they did join the Axis? An official alliance?
** 8:13 - Uh...what? Nothing you have said has given Japan a reason to win the Second Sino-Japanese War. The Japanese simply didn't have the strength or approach to occupy such a large, populous country that didn't want them.
** 8:30 - So...the US is just going to let this happen? This is literally the reason USA joined WW2.
** 8:30 - Also, while Japan did invade Thailand it was to make them join the Axis which they did. They Axis apparently is able to pressure every other country into joining but the one country they actually did pressure into joining...
** 8:43 - The Japanese conquered more than that in real life and if there is no USA or China they would have taken a lot more
** 9:00 - The reason the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor was to weaken the US before occupying the colonies in South-East Asia. The Japanese would not have been able to take over the area- Pearl Harbor or not- without going through the USA
** 9:09 - Bruh what. Where did this date come from
9:18 - A year of waiting? Are you sure about that math?
** 9:19 - Operation Sealion was not possible. Period. The Kriegsmarine would not have been able to fend off the Royal Navy and they would have probably been dead before they reach the beach.
** 10:05 - I don't even know where to start...
-Where is Vichy Frace?
-Even if they don't exist, that's still not the areas Italy wanted from France
-Germany would not have given part of Norway to the USSR
-You know, the Axis already drew occupation lines for Yugoslavia. You could have just used those.
-Where is the land Hungary would've gotten from Romania or Czechoslovakia?
-Why does Bulgaria have less land?
The list goes on but why? You could have just used the map of what they looked like in real life. WHY?!? WHY CONFIGURE YOUR OWN DISGUSTING BORDERS FOR COUNTRIES THAT ALREADY HAD ONES?!?!
10:49 - That is all I've been doing this whole. time.
11:12 - Angola was part of Portugal. A neutral nation
11:15 - Why? Why doesn't Italy get Algeria and Morocco? Or maybe Vichy France if they actually existed?
11:30 - That is not what would have happened if the Soviets joined the Axis in World War 2
11:36 - There is zero reason why the USA didn't join the war in this timeline.
** 11:40 - WHAT
** 11:44 - Just shut up. Please just shut up.
** 11:54 - It's 1946 right? shouldn't there be nukes already?
** 12:00 - This is not HOI4. It almost always takes more men to occupy an independent country than you get in return.
** 12:02 - The British Raj and Australia were part of the British Empire. Why weren't they already conquered?
12:05 - The only independent country in Africa at this time would be Liberia
12:33 - Kill me
Conclusion
You simply do not know what you are talking about. Either learn more or stop making videos on World War 2
What app you use for it
Id like to point out that hungry annexed some of slovakia in 1939 and got parts of rominia and yugoslavia later on
You should start making alternative videos what go before the year 1800 like what if constadinople didn't fell
What website do you use?
You missed Iraq Ireland and Iceland and I think that’s it nice job 👍 edit Italy joined the war right after France was captured
Ireland was independent and neutral
Bro did an Italy
Hey,Can you Play age of history 2 and form mongol empire?
Cool idea
You're missing sierra leone as british
3:12 6 hours💀
What drawing software do you use to make these videos?
Fun Fact:
Carpathian Ruthania (or whatever) and Southern Slovakia are hungarian. Vichy france?? Siam would already be axis. Transylvania is hungarian after the war with romania. How angola comin back, it under portrugese control in ww2.
What war? Romania cedated NORTHEN Transylvania to Hungary ,there was no war🤦♂️
3:56 When is this stuff going to stop...
In C&C: Red Alert, the Soviets fight the Allies single-handedly. In the main C&C timeline, the Soviets win WWII, but are quickly taken over by the Brothherhood of Nod. After which tiberium spreads across Earth and assimilates the local carbon life, forcing the hand of the Global Defence Initiative, a faction with no relation to the WWII Alliance.
Hungary taking the tail of Slovakia was missed, and so was Hungary taking parts of Transylvania once Romania joined, but otherwise nothing else was missed!
I started to known that he started doing alternative history I don't have a problem with it I just wanted to say it
That's crazy that I haven't watched the video yet 😅
3:57 Balkans :skull:
Video idea what if the Warsaw pack was a country
At this time the colonies of Italian Africa had a lot of troops in (especially in african horn), so they could have litterally start to invade the british empire because they were line 4 times more than the average british colonial troops.
Where do ypu get your maps?
Make a video where Zealandia resurfaces
Good video, but Vichy France (which was Axis aligned) actually still controlled most of it’s african colonies until the allies liberated them in 1943 (some defected to Free France). Also, Mongolia was part of the Comintern so it should have been originally in the axis probably, also there should be Tannu Tuva.
You forgot sierra leone
Some ideas if you want to do them: What if the Central Powers won in WWI or What if the USSR won the Cold War
What is the game called
You should do what if the USA joined the axis
Germany: actually able to keep an alliance with the Russians
Also Germany: hmmm should I?
Is it just me or does the map look way better then other videos
Content like this is what we waited for.
The soviet's wanted to join the axis but Germany never responded
it doesn't really make a difference, but hungary actually gained land from slovakia when germany invaded
What if every island Dissappeared
I love this
fire vid (ive definetly seen it)
Have a wonderful day ❤🎉🎉
Germany never owned Angola. It was owned by the Portuguese. The Germans owned Namibia which is close.
2nd day of me asking AdizzPro to make a reaction video to WW2 Oversimplified
Yea