Too long theyre scamming it im not paying unless I get it. Theres a factorym we are usa. If they dont sell them all to us first over india until we are santified we must tax sony products 110% these are cheap junk bikes stop letting them walk all over us like this is a royalty vehicle you must wait forever to get. If i email you and say "i can buy one next week" dont try to take my money amd then tell me its going to be 4 months. I dont believe it. theyve been making these bikes for decades. This is a honda grom engine its a spark plug tires its a lot of stuff thats already been produced a lot. If theyre playing this juke game where its for sale but actually give us the money and wait its actually bot for sale yet dont buy dont buy anything from anyone who doesnt have it these scumbags are haping youll pay 5200 and then in 4 months they buy it for 3750 because the factory pumped out a shitload they are pocketing the difference for profit anyone who tried to buy stock in the stock market learns this if theyre paying attention. If i show up with ky credit card im not swiping it unless im walkin out with the bike after. To me they milk that to a degree its like come no bro no one in india pays 4k they probably pay 3750 ifnwe are lucky the japanese suck at hussling them for sport like us because theyre poorer on average. Its hard to convince them more money is less. People in usa so blind and dumb theyll say wow 20,000 is cheap when in reality for most of human history a house didnt cost that much. A cell ohone is more complex on a very small expensive scale you pay 150-1500 for a phone andnits honestly capable of more things in different ways so how are you spending your money? It hits 50mph thats rough man thats rough the problem is its a pretty trick thing theres a lot of places you can go at 45mph esspecially if youre interested in trails and mpg. Theres hours of your day you might soend offroad if you had a vehicle that could go unlike an accord. 2 months isnt bad i bet its less now there is nit really that many people in usa that ride motorcycles most that are arent riding these. The problem is indias buying a lot stuff like that phillipines japan has a significant demand to meet. To me i dont sell something i dont have so you know im not playing games at your expense. Id hage kept the trail a secret until there was more of a supply so there was too many at the dealers and we get them for less. To Me its a utility bike its bot supposed to be hard to get your hands on one people working need to be able to get one. Theres highschoolers and college people they might live in the neighborhood next door i dont think its right for the bike to cost over 4k i really think its a 3500 motorcycle. The dealer wants a couple hundos the dmv wants their sales tax money. Now your nearning 4k and i mean brother it cant go 60mph. For ke theres things i need to do nearby the luggage rack its nice for haulimg your water to the campsite or boppin to the mcdonalds or the convieniencd store. Its really good for delivering things in town.
I just put one on a credit card hahaha. My insurance is 7.68 my all in monthly cost is under 200 bucks best bike ever. They did a great job matching the character of the old ones but being able to pull over 50 on flat ground even if its hard to get to 52mph in my county the senic routes are so much better because I get to see the longhorns and the horses and cows. Where I live is so beautiful im going to go up to the lake and I wont be able to hit the speed limit but its a beautiful ride and so im looking forward to it. Its a real motorcycle you can kill yourself on it easily if youre not careful it has a nimbleness to it that makes you feel a little out of control but that makes it great in the parking lots. I had a 2008 vulcan 1600 and it was heavy I am weak. To back it out of thr garage and turn it at the same time to go forwards down the driveway its heavy you have to sit on the bike and cant be a 4 foot tall woman. This bike i can stand next to the bike and pick it up off the kickstand one handed and i can manuver it around two hsnded with ease however i want. I can push it up the driveway steeply uphill if i want. Its great. Better than the grom the grom is only better in how it has a manually hand operated clutch but also in the real world i find im stuffing things in my jacket for more storage space because I havent pimped my luggage rack yet so its nice to actually be able to fully operate the vehicle with half my arms. A 1 handed person could ride it with an arm literally chopped off. Theres better options but if they had to they could. Its so nice when i had a honda accord even a 15 year old one being cheap about the same price to buy, for me sedan insursnce is 5x and oil is 5x and gas is 5x the cost and i cant even go down the dirtbike single track that just shoots off into the desert for miles. Its a swiss army knife. It sucks to pay 5x every month and the accord cant actually go really exploring locally. It has a skid plate factory. The leds all around is nice. I dont mind regular bulbs but leds are simply actually a light emitting diode its actually better at lighting up. The mini apes are nice its easier to stand up on than a cruiser vtwin which im a big fan of also in terms of long trips on wide open highways 75mph but ive come to realise most of my riding is 50mph and below.
When the CRF250L first came out, it was a little over $4000USD. Now try finding a new Grom or Monkey for that. The Navi is still under $4000USD, I guess.
considering the price of bikes and cars now its honestly not bad for a lower speed vehicle especially if you live in town or an area with lots of back roads
That just goes to show you how much the Tariffs are for importing goods into the U.S. If someone thinks Tariffs are not tax on the people, think again!
@@Lescqe3ujits not really that bro we dont really teariff japanese stuff the thing with this is its easier to convince rich americans that 4099 is dumb cheap because in phillipines 1000 is expensive. The income ratios there is this level they cant exceed in different areas before the price is too high and people wont pay. A lot of the cost also is the fact that phillipines is very close to japan in comparison to miami florida or maine or portugal. Thenfsrther away from the factory the farther the ship has to go. Etc.
Guy from Philippines here, he's referring to a regular scooter, not the Trail 125. Trail 125 is not available here locally and has to be imported making it super expensive. Goes for as much as a z400 or even more.
The old ones had the low range which was a game changer. I could load it with mining equipment and walk next to it and go up crazy steep hills with a couple hundred pounds of gear. Why would they delete the whole reason to buy one?
The CB1000 had that also, you wanted to be hanging on to the handlebars good when you opened it up, with the splitter in low. Really wish I still had it, was probably my favorite bike I've ever owned, and I owned a lot of them, lol
Like the original 110 did at first. I think it is intentional. If it had hi lo at it's release a bunch of You Tube motorcycle "experts" would have been thrashing them and complaining for views giving it a bad name. Maybe it will come later . Or it's because it's a cheep piece of junk in reality.
Because that would require completely re-doing the engine. Platform bikes are the name of the game now. They just make one engine and one/two chassis and make as many bikes as they think they can sell based on that. To add in a hi-low transmission would require 1) re-engineering the transmission to include that and 2) re-engineering a special production process to do it
I bought a Honda Innova / Wave 125 earlier in 2024. It's a 2012. It's like new with 20,000 miles. What a great machine. It's the kinda bike you could literally see yourself keeping forever.
we have the 2002 one and yep lovely tough bikes. But i myself uses '97 supercub with 220k mi on it, and still being daily driven. it has almost never let me down and i've never got stranded. They cannot die. the only time it "almost" died was when my stupid ass tried running it down waist high flood, took water into the intake and even combustion chamber. but all it need was a carb and exhaust water drain, new spark plug and oil, and voila it runs as if nothing had happened.
I mean I have my complaints about the thing but there is upsides like that one spo even a 4 wheeler doesnt fit through, you can probably get through it.
I live in Ohio. It’s not a viable mode of transport all rear around. And to buy one for the 4 months I can ride it would make it a loss of money. I wish I lived in a warmer state. Maybe when I retire.
We were only able to get ours because a small dealer in nowhere Idaho had one and the guy who put money down backed out. We put the climbing gears on it and have taken it on every camping trip. So much bang for buck fun!
@@adotintheshark4848they do bro the issue is the farther away you get from the factory the more it costs to get the bike to you. The farthest away from asian pacific is where the bike is gonna cost the most. Plus i bet in germany the eu carbon taxes it as a gas guzzler 😂 taxes, damn its really the best scooting around bime ive ever had i paid 5,214 usd before dmv sales tax. Too much I agree but think aboht it bro its year 2025 almost. Over 25 years we will creep towards 2050 and gas wont be any cheaper the bikes will cost even more in this dystopian future so i figured id pay now because we arent going back to 1999 bro it wont cost 2500 ever again. One day they will cost 9999 before sales tax look its already close in germany
@@adotintheshark4848they are too cheap to make business and it is difficult/impossible to register it because of bought outside of country. Also EU emission standards may play a role.
I sold bikes for a multi-line dealer including Honda. Honda was the biggest pain in the ass to work with. They'd change or cancel allocations and deliveries constantly.
I know a guy that lost his franchise because of honda Difficult to work with , he bent over backwards to make them happy ultimately they pulled his franchise They didn't like that they also sold boats Cost him half a million conservatively
I have my father's Trail 90 it is a 1967 model it is in great condition with just one flaw a bent brake lever from a tip over in the mountains. In those days the trail 90 was the pack mule of it's day and was a great nimble light machine making any hunting or fishing adventure less of a burden and exciting.
Thats what it needs to be a pack mule thatsnwhy in my opinion 125 is too small and it should he double. Double it all except the tiny size. It should he this oddly small ripper. A 250cc and instesd of 44 pound luggage rack 88 pound luggage rack. So i can actually pack mule my water at 60mph to the campsite. 125 great for like going to the gas station at 3am for a snack or just running to the mcdonalds even if you decide to take the path through the river which I most defiently will be
My old 1970 model does just fine hauling a ton of gear. And even used it t drag a few deer out of the woods. Just a dependable bike for more than 50 years. The only Honda I have ever owned. If they were not so reliable I would get a new one, but here I am wishing for a break down so I can get my new one
Can't complain about that the new break levers don't bend they snap. I have a 1979 xl 250s I would like an old ct 90 or 125 for huckleberry picking when I am camping. I check for a reasonably priced one occasionally.
I’ve got one of these here in Thailand, walked into Honda and bought it straight with cash and within 2hrs I had my bike delivered to my house. 2 years later im still driving it as my regular bike, went from a 1 seat to a 2 seat flat saddle and put some foot holders on the bottom brace. Works great and get loads of positive comments about it 🫶🏻 it’s olive green, a factory colour.
I rode the old TRAIL honda with the hi low option and second gas tank for hunting and it was bullet proof really cool machine for riding slow in the forest.
@@Michael9-23-15 maybe cheap aftersale parts. Tomos has rich history, check it out. It was made in Yugoslavia/Slovenia by Hidria Mototec, they also make bike frames for KTM, BMW etc and parts for big brand car names...
@@raspucin70 Thank you for letting me know that. I'm actually embarrassed to say that. A had a old friend that started a shop selling these back around 2011 or so? I always thought they were from Taiwan or S. E. Asia. I guess since these countries are definitely full of lots of mopeds, it's a easy mistake. But I remember riding these around and thought they were great 👍.
xr/xlr 250 and their baja varients. 30hp, 3.7 gallon tanks for the baja or 2.4 for normal versions and wet weight of 280~290 lbs for the baja or about 270 for normal version. I prefer the baja, the little extra weight is worth it for better lights and 50% more fuel. The xlr has longer gears and less travel so it's a bit more usable on road, while the other is agressive and nimble. You can find them used for about 1500~2000. They are harcore enduros with turn signals and licence plates. They are some of the best dirt bikes ever made. Also forgot to say that they practically have 0 maintenance. An oil change a year like any normal bike and filters.
I really wanted this bike. But Honda only made a limited amount on top of the crazy price. We opted for a RE Hunter 350. I'm hoping they'll release this normally in the future.
I had an ex Post Office 90cc in 1983 that I bought as kid for trail riding. It cost about $120 and took me miles through state forests and on the farm. Didn't go very fast on the road though. 80 or 90 km/h was all.
Honda xrm 125 in the Philippines is only 71k pisos. It's the trail version of the Honda rs 125. The front end is set up like a trail bike. It is built for dual sport. More rugged than the street version under the rs125fi moniker. Suzuki has the 125 J Crossover also a dual sport trail underbone set up. Both are semi automatic with heel toe gear switch, no clutch. Big guys need not apply to drive these. I'm in the process picking one up here in the Philippines. It is less fancy as this American version, but it does the same and I think the value/cost makes it a terrific deal. There are a ton of aftermarket parts so customization only depends on how crazy you want it to be. Suzuki sells the carb version for those who like custom work. There is a 150 street version as well. Benelly 150 for 88k pisos is a real beast. Probably the most powerful.150 underbone though it might be discontinued.
Whereas the later model CT90's and the CT110's (81 to 86) had a Hi/Lo lever at the base of the engine to give those bikes 8 actual speeds, the new 125 does not, to its detriment.
I have one before it's a CL 90 series scrambler,good performance and fuel Economy, ride and go amazing,sadly my Dad sold it . Replaced it with a susuki Raider J .
I saw a Honda Monkey with T bars the other day, so I went down to the local Honda shop to kick some tires. Sales guy said the Monkey’s are only coming in about 2 a month and the wait list is in the 100’s. Crazy.
All of the Honda Mini moto line has been pretty backed up. They are really fun bikes with vintage styling so it’s not too surprising that they sell out so fast.
I first learned how to ride a powered bike with a '77 Trail 90. The clutch handle was broken, so we just had to force it to shift which destroyed the rear hub. But it was worth everything we put in it to make it run. My second bike was an '80 CX-500D. If Honda really has a 2024 Trail 125, I would love to buy one for my son.
I learned to ride a motorcycle on one of these in the 70's, first a 90cc version called a CT90 then a 125cc version called a CT125, I grew up on a farm both were the farmer models and had a large flat tray over the rear fender which was used to carry things on.
Cool to have kickstart though incase your battery kicks the bucket or you know what if something goes wrong with the button probably not but quirk and feature bro i wish it had the gas canister still but also a fuel bottle actually works also its really not a dealbreaker to me.
I saw one in person some woman was riding now i got my own its for 30 miles on it now ive had it 2 days. Its definetly like a real msf legend type motorcycle. Like a honda nighthawk 250 or a tw200 its honestly the best motorcycle ive had yet. I love a big engine but then its like, all i want to do is go buy a couple corndogs its nice to be able to stand next to the bike and wheel it out of the garage. Without it being heavy. The handlbars are so high andnthe weight is so low you can really manuver it around without having to sit on it.
I had one of the early Trail 90s. LOVED that bike. The transmission had a high/low setting for street or trail and on low, it could really pull. Loved that bike. The one in this video looks like a reincarnation.
I had an old CT90. I loved it to comute to work. Changed the sprocket sizes and rejetted Carb( 110km/h instead of 85km/h ) Such a fun and cheap bike to own. We call them Postie Bikes here in Australia 🇦🇺. We race them and you can even do tour rides in NT 😊😊😊
Over the last couple of years the price went as high as $7000. Now, though, as of August 2024, they can be found at numerous dealers across the country, around $4200
I did this with my CT125. Saw it advertised an hour away. I called them, they said "You're number 5", "I have cash" "Let me find out, if they don't call me back in the next hour one of them is yours" "Come get it" Took another solid year before I ever saw another on in person, either at a dealer or on the road. Mine gets comments everywhere I go.
Always thought that the trail 125’s were ugly when I was younger. I think they are cool now since I have become older. I have had 7 different Honda bikes and three wheelers in years past. They are built tough and reliable.
The really old ones from the 70’s etc Trail 90 and 125 were super fun to ride my friend had a few of them around the dairy 🥛 🐄 farm he worked at for rounding up the cows 🐮 out in the pasture when it was time for them to come in 😄 they were a blast to ride and way stronger than you would ever think they were by looking at them.
It not cheap lol i bought a brand new honda dio 2013 for 1k that was in storage and used it from 2021 to 2024 with 54k miles on it and still works like a charm
Damn. But 5k is cheap for its swoss army bike level capabilities. I paid 5k for a 15 year old accord. So it shows how much bang for buck bikes get. 5k for a car is a 15 year old accord. 5k for a motorvyvle can get a brand spanking new bike that can actually go places at least locally that a 15 year old accord cant. And its 5x less for insursnce 5x less for gas 5x less for oil because it takes 5x less oil at oil changes. That adds up. It really is cheap because in 3 or 4 years ill sell it for 3750 and ill only lose 1250 bucks in vehicle value depriciation. So the cost is very cheap in the long run. Downright nearly free if yiu divide it out over a day by day basis over a few years of ownership.
Absolutely correct. This look like legendaty “monkey” bike of 1960 of Honda. Unce upon a time Honda riders were called cool guys and hit huge success in the US.
As a daily driver bro most days im just going to the office supply store or the fast food amd grocery etc and so it feels good to be next to the 70k bmw and my insurance cost is 7.89 usd per month.
They have been making these for the Australian market for like 40 plus years. Primarily for the Australian postal service who use them to deliver residential mail.
I can’t tell when this was posted, so maybe that hype train wait time has passed, but in my area, the Honda dealership has at least 4-5 out on the floor.
Its a good bike. Bo key fob, 2 real keys. I love that shit. Nothing better than a key that doesnt need a battery. My parents and sibling bought new cars with ley fobs amd the battery low on the fob or dead already they always cheap out. Honda went with a pair of keys and thats great to have in the pocket when you leave thr dealer. A pair of keys is the difference between wealth and poverty. The real key. Look at the key fobs they hide a real key in them sp if the battery dies you can unlock the car manually anyway 😂. My last homda the key had thenunlock button and the battery died I never replaced it I just liked to use the key to unlock the door it feels good to have a key it has no battery.
I remember when i was looking for one the dealers i had contacted all said they were 25-30 backorders deep and that they werent taking any more. A few years later and im a proud owner of a 2024 Trail 125. Love my bike!
I hate that color but maybe i just need to see it in person because people look online and dont like the yellow but i was fond of the yellow because of my state flag amd so getting the yellow and seeing it in person its good its a good yellow
I got one of these. Also the honda Click. Fast little sporty matics. And a Mio aerox 155 Yamaha. Baught them in 2022 and came in 2024 march. Love these bikes. I went around the around the country for 1,500 kilometers in a week and 101 dollars of gas money spent
This was my first bike (red) a couple years ago. Modded it out tastefully. 5 miles later, I felt like I was on a toy. Upward and onward. But that’s just me. These things are really built like my GWagen!
The old Hondas were great, nearly indestructible. I wouldn’t own a new one for anything, good luck with your Chinese bike with a Japanese name. Most of their manufacturing takes place in china these days, sure they are assembled in Japan or the us , but the critical parts still come from China
@@JacobWillits Honda outsources the manufacturing of individual components to China, things like cylinders, pistons, bearings, most all electronics. Sure Japan assembles them but from mostly Chinese manufactured parts. Yamaha Suzuki Kawasaki Polaris they all do this so does ford Chevy dodge Toyota Nissan. Briggs and Stratton and kohler simply buy Chinese industrial Honda clones and has them branded for them.
I live in the UK and my entire country did not get one ! Is Honda serious about selling bikes anymore? When I was a kid there was a Honda dealer in most large towns; now they are few and far between.
The original selling price of the Honda Trail 90 was under $350. The 1969 model sold for $340. A Suzuki 500cc twin was $999.00. Dreaming of an earlier time.
the dealership near me told me they were the only dealership in the state to get them and i better put down a deposit and grab one up, i think the out the door price was like a minimum of 6k or something ridiculous, i later found random lowkey dealers selling them at msrp. never buy from southgate honda (michigan) thats not the first time they lied to me
The most popular Honda in South East Asia is the Honda Wave 125. I guess Americans would consider it a "scooter"...but it looks a lot like this trail 125....just made for the road. They are unavailable in the US. Sean... your mission...obtain an unobtainable Honda Wave.
"The guy is unresponsive" lol bro was passed out on the barroom floor with someone in his ear like: "YO YOU GOT A CALL! HONDA WANTS TO KNOW IF YOU'RE BUYING THAT BIKE OR WHAT"
Im 6 feet tall and i think anyone 6 foot 1 is too tall. Im right on the edge i can feel the bar on the back sometimes. It doesnt smash into my butt but its there telling mr if i was an inch taller id be complaining about it bashing my ass. If i made the bike id have the handle be detachable so you could put it on any side.
Wrong bro. Depending. If you put low miles on it yeah but 10,000 miles a year youll blow the engine to chunks at about 50k miles. These engiens are great its more about the miles than it is the time and tbh 50k before the thing explodes is impressive for a 125cc
And I still hear people claiming that there's no demand for small sensible bikes in the US.
Petrol companies pay to put such posts out ..the milage on these things is amazing
I Loved riding a Honda 90 as a teen. I'd Love to have 1 of these as the 90's are hard to get anymore too and this can do 45mph easier.
Check out a Honda bike called “Biz” it’s for the Brazilian market.
@MrJrchui83 I had four cg125brs the were made for the Brazilian market .so reliable and easy to work on
@MrJrchui83 I will look that up , cheers . seasons greetings ❤️
I went to my local dealer and had to put down a $500 deposit for a C125 Super Cub- 4 months later it arrived & I couldn't be happier!
i know what im doing with my bonus this year 😂
Congrats on your new Honda your gonna have a lot of fun out on that thing, stay safe out there 👍
Same
Too long theyre scamming it im not paying unless I get it. Theres a factorym we are usa. If they dont sell them all to us first over india until we are santified we must tax sony products 110% these are cheap junk bikes stop letting them walk all over us like this is a royalty vehicle you must wait forever to get. If i email you and say "i can buy one next week" dont try to take my money amd then tell me its going to be 4 months. I dont believe it. theyve been making these bikes for decades. This is a honda grom engine its a spark plug tires its a lot of stuff thats already been produced a lot. If theyre playing this juke game where its for sale but actually give us the money and wait its actually bot for sale yet dont buy dont buy anything from anyone who doesnt have it these scumbags are haping youll pay 5200 and then in 4 months they buy it for 3750 because the factory pumped out a shitload they are pocketing the difference for profit anyone who tried to buy stock in the stock market learns this if theyre paying attention. If i show up with ky credit card im not swiping it unless im walkin out with the bike after. To me they milk that to a degree its like come no bro no one in india pays 4k they probably pay 3750 ifnwe are lucky the japanese suck at hussling them for sport like us because theyre poorer on average. Its hard to convince them more money is less. People in usa so blind and dumb theyll say wow 20,000 is cheap when in reality for most of human history a house didnt cost that much. A cell ohone is more complex on a very small expensive scale you pay 150-1500 for a phone andnits honestly capable of more things in different ways so how are you spending your money? It hits 50mph thats rough man thats rough the problem is its a pretty trick thing theres a lot of places you can go at 45mph esspecially if youre interested in trails and mpg. Theres hours of your day you might soend offroad if you had a vehicle that could go unlike an accord. 2 months isnt bad i bet its less now there is nit really that many people in usa that ride motorcycles most that are arent riding these. The problem is indias buying a lot stuff like that phillipines japan has a significant demand to meet. To me i dont sell something i dont have so you know im not playing games at your expense. Id hage kept the trail a secret until there was more of a supply so there was too many at the dealers and we get them for less. To Me its a utility bike its bot supposed to be hard to get your hands on one people working need to be able to get one. Theres highschoolers and college people they might live in the neighborhood next door i dont think its right for the bike to cost over 4k i really think its a 3500 motorcycle. The dealer wants a couple hundos the dmv wants their sales tax money. Now your nearning 4k and i mean brother it cant go 60mph. For ke theres things i need to do nearby the luggage rack its nice for haulimg your water to the campsite or boppin to the mcdonalds or the convieniencd store. Its really good for delivering things in town.
I just put one on a credit card hahaha. My insurance is 7.68 my all in monthly cost is under 200 bucks best bike ever. They did a great job matching the character of the old ones but being able to pull over 50 on flat ground even if its hard to get to 52mph in my county the senic routes are so much better because I get to see the longhorns and the horses and cows. Where I live is so beautiful im going to go up to the lake and I wont be able to hit the speed limit but its a beautiful ride and so im looking forward to it. Its a real motorcycle you can kill yourself on it easily if youre not careful it has a nimbleness to it that makes you feel a little out of control but that makes it great in the parking lots. I had a 2008 vulcan 1600 and it was heavy I am weak. To back it out of thr garage and turn it at the same time to go forwards down the driveway its heavy you have to sit on the bike and cant be a 4 foot tall woman. This bike i can stand next to the bike and pick it up off the kickstand one handed and i can manuver it around two hsnded with ease however i want. I can push it up the driveway steeply uphill if i want. Its great. Better than the grom the grom is only better in how it has a manually hand operated clutch but also in the real world i find im stuffing things in my jacket for more storage space because I havent pimped my luggage rack yet so its nice to actually be able to fully operate the vehicle with half my arms. A 1 handed person could ride it with an arm literally chopped off. Theres better options but if they had to they could. Its so nice when i had a honda accord even a 15 year old one being cheap about the same price to buy, for me sedan insursnce is 5x and oil is 5x and gas is 5x the cost and i cant even go down the dirtbike single track that just shoots off into the desert for miles. Its a swiss army knife. It sucks to pay 5x every month and the accord cant actually go really exploring locally. It has a skid plate factory. The leds all around is nice. I dont mind regular bulbs but leds are simply actually a light emitting diode its actually better at lighting up. The mini apes are nice its easier to stand up on than a cruiser vtwin which im a big fan of also in terms of long trips on wide open highways 75mph but ive come to realise most of my riding is 50mph and below.
It’s crazy to me that people now call $4000 for a scooter, “cheap”. It’s like everyone has the memory of a goldfish!
Yeah, same deal with the Grom. Insane.
When the CRF250L first came out, it was a little over $4000USD. Now try finding a new Grom or Monkey for that.
The Navi is still under $4000USD, I guess.
I paid just over $6k for my brand new Honda VTX1300R
considering the price of bikes and cars now its honestly not bad for a lower speed vehicle especially if you live in town or an area with lots of back roads
$2.700 in Thailand
Philippines, a Honda 125cc Street bike is $1,200 new.
units on sale are not as good looking as this though.
That just goes to show you how much the Tariffs are for importing goods into the U.S. If someone thinks Tariffs are not tax on the people, think again!
because if it was 3800 in the pi nobody would buy it!
@@Lescqe3ujits not really that bro we dont really teariff japanese stuff the thing with this is its easier to convince rich americans that 4099 is dumb cheap because in phillipines 1000 is expensive. The income ratios there is this level they cant exceed in different areas before the price is too high and people wont pay. A lot of the cost also is the fact that phillipines is very close to japan in comparison to miami florida or maine or portugal. Thenfsrther away from the factory the farther the ship has to go. Etc.
Guy from Philippines here, he's referring to a regular scooter, not the Trail 125. Trail 125 is not available here locally and has to be imported making it super expensive. Goes for as much as a z400 or even more.
The old ones had the low range which was a game changer. I could load it with mining equipment and walk next to it and go up crazy steep hills with a couple hundred pounds of gear.
Why would they delete the whole reason to buy one?
The CB1000 had that also, you wanted to be hanging on to the handlebars good when you opened it up, with the splitter in low. Really wish I still had it, was probably my favorite bike I've ever owned, and I owned a lot of them, lol
Like the original 110 did at first. I think it is intentional. If it had hi lo at it's release a bunch of You Tube motorcycle "experts" would have been thrashing them and complaining for views giving it a bad name. Maybe it will come later . Or it's because it's a cheep piece of junk in reality.
@@321CatboxWAhuh? Make sense, man. You’re all over the place and none of it makes any sense.
Because that would require completely re-doing the engine. Platform bikes are the name of the game now. They just make one engine and one/two chassis and make as many bikes as they think they can sell based on that. To add in a hi-low transmission would require 1) re-engineering the transmission to include that and 2) re-engineering a special production process to do it
Modern Honda motorsports completely ignors their American customers. That's why.
I bought a Honda Innova / Wave 125 earlier in 2024. It's a 2012. It's like new with 20,000 miles. What a great machine. It's the kinda bike you could literally see yourself keeping forever.
we have the 2002 one and yep lovely tough bikes. But i myself uses '97 supercub with 220k mi on it, and still being daily driven. it has almost never let me down and i've never got stranded. They cannot die. the only time it "almost" died was when my stupid ass tried running it down waist high flood, took water into the intake and even combustion chamber. but all it need was a carb and exhaust water drain, new spark plug and oil, and voila it runs as if nothing had happened.
20k miles like new...That's like saying a pair of underwear woen once is like new lol
jesus christ dude, that's old and worn out. i hope you didn't pay more than 500 bucks.
I still have my Minitrail 70cc, 1976.
Welcome to moped life. Grew up with mopeds, the most practical mode of transportation ever. Cheap to maintain, easy to repair, and fuel efficient.
I mean I have my complaints about the thing but there is upsides like that one spo even a 4 wheeler doesnt fit through, you can probably get through it.
My first motor vehicle was a Batavus. Loved that thing. You could actually pedal it if you ran out of gas.
also the low weight and low center of mass mean you can get places even dirtbikes struggle.
I live in Ohio. It’s not a viable mode of transport all rear around. And to buy one for the 4 months I can ride it would make it a loss of money. I wish I lived in a warmer state. Maybe when I retire.
Nope. That would be a Ford F150.
In my country, Honda refuse to release this. In the end, a local company take it upon themselves to build and sell some.
WTF?
Let me guess that local company is aveta right??
We were only able to get ours because a small dealer in nowhere Idaho had one and the guy who put money down backed out. We put the climbing gears on it and have taken it on every camping trip. So much bang for buck fun!
Our mailman use those to get around over here in Australia
Now there on thoes bs electric pushbikes
@@BaberJacks there on some bs electric tuk tuk here in Brissy
@@Yamumsdad i think they use em for packages or something. I seen some around here in Melb
@@BaberJacksI hope my post office buys 10 of these. Winter sucks but I have short winters here I can suffer
POSTIES!
If you want one in Germany you need to import one via the Netherlands and at the end this shit will cost you $9.000. it's ridiculous.
why won't Germany allow them?
@@adotintheshark4848 they hate competition and good solutions for people. They hate us
@@adotintheshark4848they do bro the issue is the farther away you get from the factory the more it costs to get the bike to you. The farthest away from asian pacific is where the bike is gonna cost the most. Plus i bet in germany the eu carbon taxes it as a gas guzzler 😂 taxes, damn its really the best scooting around bime ive ever had i paid 5,214 usd before dmv sales tax. Too much I agree but think aboht it bro its year 2025 almost. Over 25 years we will creep towards 2050 and gas wont be any cheaper the bikes will cost even more in this dystopian future so i figured id pay now because we arent going back to 1999 bro it wont cost 2500 ever again. One day they will cost 9999 before sales tax look its already close in germany
Go electric. Anything ICE in the EU is doomed.
@@adotintheshark4848they are too cheap to make business and it is difficult/impossible to register it because of bought outside of country. Also EU emission standards may play a role.
I sold bikes for a multi-line dealer including Honda. Honda was the biggest pain in the ass to work with. They'd change or cancel allocations and deliveries constantly.
I know a guy that lost his franchise because of honda
Difficult to work with , he bent over backwards to make them happy ultimately they pulled his franchise
They didn't like that they also sold boats
Cost him half a million conservatively
@stevenkirkey9796 I believe it! We luckily did really well with Yamaha, Kawasaki and KTM, so that kept our lights on
I have my father's Trail 90 it is a 1967 model it is in great condition with just one flaw a bent brake lever from a tip over in the mountains. In those days the trail 90 was the pack mule of it's day and was a great nimble light machine making any hunting or fishing adventure less of a burden and exciting.
Thats what it needs to be a pack mule thatsnwhy in my opinion 125 is too small and it should he double. Double it all except the tiny size. It should he this oddly small ripper. A 250cc and instesd of 44 pound luggage rack 88 pound luggage rack. So i can actually pack mule my water at 60mph to the campsite. 125 great for like going to the gas station at 3am for a snack or just running to the mcdonalds even if you decide to take the path through the river which I most defiently will be
My old 1970 model does just fine hauling a ton of gear. And even used it t drag a few deer out of the woods. Just a dependable bike for more than 50 years. The only Honda I have ever owned. If they were not so reliable I would get a new one, but here I am wishing for a break down so I can get my new one
Can't complain about that the new break levers don't bend they snap.
I have a 1979 xl 250s I would like an old ct 90 or 125 for huckleberry picking when I am camping. I check for a reasonably priced one occasionally.
I’ve got one of these here in Thailand, walked into Honda and bought it straight with cash and within 2hrs I had my bike delivered to my house.
2 years later im still driving it as my regular bike, went from a 1 seat to a 2 seat flat saddle and put some foot holders on the bottom brace. Works great and get loads of positive comments about it 🫶🏻 it’s olive green, a factory colour.
I rode the old TRAIL honda with the hi low option and second gas tank for hunting and it was bullet proof really cool machine for riding slow in the forest.
Any chance you could share that wiring diagram?
I wrote too soon… thanks for the schematic at 17:17
Get Tomos back in production! Y'all gonna love them!👌
Taiwan made if my memory is right? My friend used to sell those, plus I spend lots of time in Taiwan and I'm pretty sure I remember seeing them.
@@Michael9-23-15 maybe cheap aftersale parts. Tomos has rich history, check it out. It was made in Yugoslavia/Slovenia by Hidria Mototec, they also make bike frames for KTM, BMW etc and parts for big brand car names...
@@Michael9-23-15 Slovenia, not Taiwan.
@@raspucin70 Thank you for letting me know that. I'm actually embarrassed to say that. A had a old friend that started a shop selling these back around 2011 or so? I always thought they were from Taiwan or S. E. Asia.
I guess since these countries are definitely full of lots of mopeds, it's a easy mistake. But I remember riding these around and thought they were great 👍.
Have new APN similar like this only 50cc
If only they would make a trail 250 or something. That would be awesome.
Crf300l
We nees to make our own and stop letting japan scam us
I just hate how people paying 5k for a scooter.
xr/xlr 250 and their baja varients. 30hp, 3.7 gallon tanks for the baja or 2.4 for normal versions and wet weight of 280~290 lbs for the baja or about 270 for normal version.
I prefer the baja, the little extra weight is worth it for better lights and 50% more fuel. The xlr has longer gears and less travel so it's a bit more usable on road, while the other is agressive and nimble.
You can find them used for about 1500~2000. They are harcore enduros with turn signals and licence plates. They are some of the best dirt bikes ever made.
Also forgot to say that they practically have 0 maintenance. An oil change a year like any normal bike and filters.
@@jakewillits4678 ahahahah good luck getting anything as reliable and fun as this from an American company
I really wanted this bike. But Honda only made a limited amount on top of the crazy price. We opted for a RE Hunter 350.
I'm hoping they'll release this normally in the future.
we use these as postie bikes here in Australia, you can get them from government auctions for like $6-800 or off market place for like 1200
I had an ex Post Office 90cc in 1983 that I bought as kid for trail riding. It cost about $120 and took me miles through state forests and on the farm.
Didn't go very fast on the road though. 80 or 90 km/h was all.
Honda xrm 125 in the Philippines is only 71k pisos. It's the trail version of the Honda rs 125. The front end is set up like a trail bike. It is built for dual sport. More rugged than the street version under the rs125fi moniker. Suzuki has the 125 J Crossover also a dual sport trail underbone set up. Both are semi automatic with heel toe gear switch, no clutch. Big guys need not apply to drive these. I'm in the process picking one up here in the Philippines. It is less fancy as this American version, but it does the same and I think the value/cost makes it a terrific deal. There are a ton of aftermarket parts so customization only depends on how crazy you want it to be.
Suzuki sells the carb version for those who like custom work. There is a 150 street version as well. Benelly 150 for 88k pisos is a real beast. Probably the most powerful.150 underbone though it might be discontinued.
Worked at a dealership as a setup tech and built one for the showroom but I ended up buying it before the end of the day. Worth every penny
A Trail 90 would drag that 125 uphill.
Whereas the later model CT90's and the CT110's (81 to 86) had a Hi/Lo lever at the base of the engine to give those bikes 8 actual speeds, the new 125 does not, to its detriment.
@@j.arthurlearned7696 i hadd 1985 110 two range
I have one before it's a CL 90 series scrambler,good performance and fuel
Economy, ride and go amazing,sadly my Dad sold it . Replaced it with a susuki Raider J .
We use to ride these round the fields in the council estates we called them " grandad 90s " because you use to see grandad riding them in the 90s
I'm still trying to get my hands on one.
I have a Grom, but i really want the Trail125
I saw a Honda Monkey with T bars the other day, so I went down to the local Honda shop to kick some tires. Sales guy said the Monkey’s are only coming in about 2 a month and the wait list is in the 100’s. Crazy.
Wild. Im not into the monkey but a lot of people are they didnt have any at my dealer but i got a trail
All of the Honda Mini moto line has been pretty backed up. They are really fun bikes with vintage styling so it’s not too surprising that they sell out so fast.
I love the shape! Such oldschool design you see a lot around the world. I think 80% of motos in Morocco have this layout.
I first learned how to ride a powered bike with a '77 Trail 90.
The clutch handle was broken, so we just had to force it to shift which destroyed the rear hub. But it was worth everything we put in it to make it run.
My second bike was an '80 CX-500D.
If Honda really has a 2024 Trail 125, I would love to buy one for my son.
I learned to ride a motorcycle on one of these in the 70's, first a 90cc version called a CT90 then a 125cc version called a CT125, I grew up on a farm both were the farmer models and had a large flat tray over the rear fender which was used to carry things on.
No hi/lo range is a huge goof on Honda. Hopefully someone can design an aftermarket kit to add that feature.
Cool to have kickstart though incase your battery kicks the bucket or you know what if something goes wrong with the button probably not but quirk and feature bro i wish it had the gas canister still but also a fuel bottle actually works also its really not a dealbreaker to me.
@@JacobWillitsno Kickstart on EFI bikes because if the battery is too weak it won't Prime the fuel pump
i see ct chugging up rocky steep hills no hi/lo. i won't even need that much a$$ buster chance.
that exhaust placement is diabolical
Never had a problem with mine. 20 thousand miles ridden. On off road
I've only seen 3 or 4 for sale in Minnesota since launch, seen one in person. The old Honda Trail 90s are easier to find. 😂
I saw one in person some woman was riding now i got my own its for 30 miles on it now ive had it 2 days. Its definetly like a real msf legend type motorcycle. Like a honda nighthawk 250 or a tw200 its honestly the best motorcycle ive had yet. I love a big engine but then its like, all i want to do is go buy a couple corndogs its nice to be able to stand next to the bike and wheel it out of the garage. Without it being heavy. The handlbars are so high andnthe weight is so low you can really manuver it around without having to sit on it.
Preordered mine September 2020, got it February 2022
So how does it actually trail? Good, fair, or excellent?
Get one direct from japan?
Is it a two stroke?
Nooooo
Postman in Australia ride this bike to deliver the mail letterbox to letterbox. At least since the late 70s.
Used ta untill auspost auctioned em off in the 80's.These a lot diffrent.
@ ah no
Does it have the low ratio gearbox
Don't think so, it's a 4-stroke so it has the torque.
@@kingnull2697it has the torque of a lawn mower
@@JimmyJohnson7077 The torque necessary to not need a hi-lo gearbox.
No😔
@kinope🙄ngnull2697
Brewers in Henderson NC has a bunch of them
How old is this video? Honda discontinued the ct100/supercub
CT125
I have a mid 70s Honda like that still ran when put in shed 20 years ago still like new make me a offer
400 bucks
Same with the honda ADV 160 here in the Philippines high demand low supply then after a few moths or a year it was available for all
I had one of the early Trail 90s. LOVED that bike. The transmission had a high/low setting for street or trail and on low, it could really pull. Loved that bike. The one in this video looks like a reincarnation.
Honda was making bikes like that when I was in grade school, it's good to see them continuing bikes like that, back in the 80's .
Trail bike? We used to call those mopeds or scooters back in the day! Very versatile though! ✌🏽
To me its clearly a real motorcycle. Nothing like a vespa or metropolitan moped scooter. Its closer to the donkey of motorcycles
I had an old CT90. I loved it to comute to work. Changed the sprocket sizes and rejetted Carb( 110km/h instead of 85km/h ) Such a fun and cheap bike to own. We call them Postie Bikes here in Australia 🇦🇺. We race them and you can even do tour rides in NT 😊😊😊
Is that Zach Courts in the beginning of the short?
I had a similar 50cc bike this in the mid 80s
There's one at Atlantic Cycle in Southern Maryland.
but what model is this?
Trail125 but I’m only seeing in yellow now? 🤷♂️
Over the last couple of years the price went as high as $7000. Now, though, as of August 2024, they can be found at numerous dealers across the country, around $4200
which is three times too much.
I did this with my CT125. Saw it advertised an hour away. I called them, they said "You're number 5",
"I have cash"
"Let me find out, if they don't call me back in the next hour one of them is yours"
"Come get it"
Took another solid year before I ever saw another on in person, either at a dealer or on the road. Mine gets comments everywhere I go.
Well I still have my 1977 Honda Trail 90 and I share a second not letting her go blessings
Always thought that the trail 125’s were ugly when I was younger. I think they are cool now since I have become older. I have had 7 different Honda bikes and three wheelers in years past. They are built tough and reliable.
The really old ones from the 70’s etc Trail 90 and 125 were super fun to ride my friend had a few of them around the dairy 🥛 🐄 farm he worked at for rounding up the cows 🐮 out in the pasture when it was time for them to come in 😄 they were a blast to ride and way stronger than you would ever think they were by looking at them.
I think their cool but need the dual range or a 6 speed. Also if they had about 20% more horse power they could keep up on most highways.
We have had one sitting on the dealer floor for quite awhile here.
It not cheap lol i bought a brand new honda dio 2013 for 1k that was in storage and used it from 2021 to 2024 with 54k miles on it and still works like a charm
Damn. But 5k is cheap for its swoss army bike level capabilities. I paid 5k for a 15 year old accord. So it shows how much bang for buck bikes get. 5k for a car is a 15 year old accord. 5k for a motorvyvle can get a brand spanking new bike that can actually go places at least locally that a 15 year old accord cant. And its 5x less for insursnce 5x less for gas 5x less for oil because it takes 5x less oil at oil changes. That adds up. It really is cheap because in 3 or 4 years ill sell it for 3750 and ill only lose 1250 bucks in vehicle value depriciation. So the cost is very cheap in the long run. Downright nearly free if yiu divide it out over a day by day basis over a few years of ownership.
Looks amazing and a modern version of the old 90 moped used in mainly Asia
Big and 150hp is not necessary to have huge fun on a bike
Absolutely correct. This look like legendaty “monkey” bike of 1960 of Honda. Unce upon a time Honda riders were called cool guys and hit huge success in the US.
it is more useful on the freeway though. Ever ride a trail bike there?
As a daily driver bro most days im just going to the office supply store or the fast food amd grocery etc and so it feels good to be next to the 70k bmw and my insurance cost is 7.89 usd per month.
Go for the Japanese/UK right hand drive models as there is less demand for these in the USA, but easily converted to left hand drive.
They have been making these for the Australian market for like 40 plus years. Primarily for the Australian postal service who use them to deliver residential mail.
I can’t tell when this was posted, so maybe that hype train wait time has passed, but in my area, the Honda dealership has at least 4-5 out on the floor.
Its a good bike. Bo key fob, 2 real keys. I love that shit. Nothing better than a key that doesnt need a battery. My parents and sibling bought new cars with ley fobs amd the battery low on the fob or dead already they always cheap out. Honda went with a pair of keys and thats great to have in the pocket when you leave thr dealer. A pair of keys is the difference between wealth and poverty. The real key. Look at the key fobs they hide a real key in them sp if the battery dies you can unlock the car manually anyway 😂. My last homda the key had thenunlock button and the battery died I never replaced it I just liked to use the key to unlock the door it feels good to have a key it has no battery.
The very FIRST bike that I rode back in 1966. Now 50 years later they are bringing them back. I'd venture they're not as durable though.
I remember when i was looking for one the dealers i had contacted all said they were 25-30 backorders deep and that they werent taking any more. A few years later and im a proud owner of a 2024 Trail 125. Love my bike!
I have a 2023 Organic Green Pearl and I'm obsessed.
😆
I hate that color but maybe i just need to see it in person because people look online and dont like the yellow but i was fond of the yellow because of my state flag amd so getting the yellow and seeing it in person its good its a good yellow
Need a bore and stroked 190 with a 4 valve head
Nah bro its to have the rebel 300 engine slung under there
This is expensive AF. Go to Asia and Honda and Yamaha 125s sell for half the price. Even the trail version mopeds. The US gets ripped off.
I have a `69 CL 90 stored for the day nothing else will work anymore. Sooo nice and reliable. And 85 mpg.
This bike looks really cool. Reminds me of good old mopeds that were build locally in ex Yugoslavia.
Which part of Yugoslavia???
I got one of these. Also the honda Click. Fast little sporty matics. And a Mio aerox 155 Yamaha. Baught them in 2022 and came in 2024 march. Love these bikes. I went around the around the country for 1,500 kilometers in a week and 101 dollars of gas money spent
I owned a Honda 110 in the 1980's. It had a low range that was much needed on steep trails. Great little bike. Glad they upped it to 125.
This was my first bike (red) a couple years ago. Modded it out tastefully. 5 miles later, I felt like I was on a toy. Upward and onward. But that’s just me. These things are really built like my GWagen!
Its an EX5 engine variant the MOST reliable engine Homda ever made, run like forever.
The old Hondas were great, nearly indestructible. I wouldn’t own a new one for anything, good luck with your Chinese bike with a Japanese name. Most of their manufacturing takes place in china these days, sure they are assembled in Japan or the us , but the critical parts still come from China
Engine is made in Japan and shipped to the assembly plant in asian pacific.
@@JacobWillits Honda outsources the manufacturing of individual components to China, things like cylinders, pistons, bearings, most all electronics. Sure Japan assembles them but from mostly Chinese manufactured parts. Yamaha Suzuki Kawasaki Polaris they all do this so does ford Chevy dodge Toyota Nissan. Briggs and Stratton and kohler simply buy Chinese industrial Honda clones and has them branded for them.
@@resurrectiongarage1506 you arent even compregemding what you are saying
I live in the UK and my entire country did not get one !
Is Honda serious about selling bikes anymore? When I was a kid there was a Honda dealer in most large towns; now they are few and far between.
how is that equal to 3800 or so $?
i know they last forever, but that is not 3800$ of materials, work, etc.
Erp, but a XR 650 and be a man. 😂😂😂
I grew up in this era when first released; what a great re-boot👍🏽
I called all over the country. I found one guy in the country and he was 2.5 hours away. Lmao keep lyin
I bought a Yamaha 125 4 years ago for $3k otd
Greatest purchase I made, took that with me on countless rv trips and road it all over the country
The original selling price of the Honda Trail 90 was under $350. The 1969 model sold for $340. A Suzuki 500cc twin was $999.00. Dreaming of an earlier time.
the dealership near me told me they were the only dealership in the state to get them and i better put down a deposit and grab one up, i think the out the door price was like a minimum of 6k or something ridiculous, i later found random lowkey dealers selling them at msrp. never buy from southgate honda (michigan) thats not the first time they lied to me
Damn, in here we have the same engine its called supra 125 or wave in thailand, its around Rp18.000.000 or not even 2.000 usd
That's awesome! APN make similar and that's copy of Honda when I see new how they make it just is 50cc but all sold
The most popular Honda in South East Asia is the Honda Wave 125. I guess Americans would consider it a "scooter"...but it looks a lot like this trail 125....just made for the road. They are unavailable in the US.
Sean... your mission...obtain an unobtainable Honda Wave.
all postal workers use these in Australia or a similiar model, its a reall workhorse and probably my favourite small bike
I don't call 3800 cheap for a moped
No HI/LO NO DEAL.
The kickstart bro
no extra fuel can no deal
We've got a few at the dealership here that are yellow
"The guy is unresponsive" lol bro was passed out on the barroom floor with someone in his ear like: "YO YOU GOT A CALL! HONDA WANTS TO KNOW IF YOU'RE BUYING THAT BIKE OR WHAT"
A ripoff at that price. People, don’t let them take advantage of you
As a postman I rode one of the very first of these built. Australia Post used them for decades to deliver mail.
Now every dealer around me has four or five and they have had them for a year plus and they can’t sell them
I wanted one but found the seat was too close for my long legs. Bummed.
Im 6 feet tall and i think anyone 6 foot 1 is too tall. Im right on the edge i can feel the bar on the back sometimes. It doesnt smash into my butt but its there telling mr if i was an inch taller id be complaining about it bashing my ass. If i made the bike id have the handle be detachable so you could put it on any side.
Rather have the old one. 😊
And it will probably run forever
Wrong bro. Depending. If you put low miles on it yeah but 10,000 miles a year youll blow the engine to chunks at about 50k miles. These engiens are great its more about the miles than it is the time and tbh 50k before the thing explodes is impressive for a 125cc
3,800$ for a Moped?
Am I the only one who thinks It's overpriced?