@@DirtBikeTest two reasons 1. scaled economies 2. emerging markets (this one is obvious to anyone who isn't American, because Americans are completely self absorbed and think the world revolves around them) fully scaled economies: the actual manufacturing for motorcycles, globally speaking, is 10 times more efficient than it was even 10 years ago. Making 400 motorcycles isn't any more expensive than making 4000 of them, like it was traditionally in large scale manufacturing. the barriers to entry aren't the same anymore. You don't have to build a state of the art manufacturing plant in China anymore, or anywhere else. you just borrow one. In modern car and motorcycle manufacturing, marketing and design is where most of the expenses are. If you are a modern Triumph (Bloor Holdings) or a Ducati ( Volkswagen Group) you already have massive marketing and design resources at your disposal, so the barriers to entry are almost nothing for them. Plus, already being well respected names in motorcycling creates a ton of cross-over connections as far as supply chains, vendors, and other third part business entities. Stack that on top of their loyal, premium customer base, and it sort of a no brainer. there isn't much to loose even if it all goes tits up. Reputation and image being the factors you'd worry about most...not profit loss. Emerging markets: this is quite simple. there are more markets for dirt bikes than in the past. India, China, United Arab Emirates, ect..., are all markets for full size motorcycles that didn't exist 20 years ago. India and China alone represent almost a 1/4 of the worlds population.
@@nolansmith1211young people get into Moto, if they buy a triumph when young then they'll buy one for the road as well or later in life, same reason Ducati is doing it.
I absolutely love these new Yamaha’s with their power tune app. You can make the bike perform exactly how you want the engine to perform. I’ve got a WR 250 F I’m going to buy the 2025 WR 450 this fall I’ve had the 250 for a full year now put 4500 km probably somewhere around 130 hours 135 hours. I haven’t had no issues with this bike as long as you keep up with the maintenance schedules. The manual set out the bike is a dream. it revs up so fast 16,000 RPM. I’ve got up to about 145 km an hour on it the 250 F but this triumph is a different bike gets a track bike right pretty decent for bike though I give them that it’ll be cool if they did the same thing as Yamaha with the power tune app make it so that you can change the maps on the ECU. I’ve got five maps in my phone and two on the bike already. I just went with a t torque map and the MX map aggressive power I love that rocket ship. What’s the price range on these new triumphs?
Good stuff. All the testers are saying they are flexxy but I heard from private buyers that the frames are really stiff. Looks like alot of feedback through your bars as well. Maybe it's just the really small chatter or something??
I guess it depends on what you compare it to. Triumph borrowed a lot of yamahas frame design which is known to be very very stiff in the last few years. If they made a less stiff version of the yz frame. In that case it would be more flex-y. But if you compare it to even a old 2019 yz, the triumph may still be stiffer.
You dont shift down twice in the middle of the corner not worthy of being a test rider You need to Watch Ricky Carmichael going around gator back cycle park no dips in power & hes doing 65 mph all the way around the track its you as a bad rider not the bike If you change up early the tourqe will pull hard in the next gear that was the whole reason of changing to the 4T engine
Did you know that you could adjust the GoPro so it’s not staring at the fork clickers?
We'll see how committed Triumph is to dirt bikes. If the TF250-X is still around in a few years I might consider buying one.
The bigger question is why are successful street brands getting into such a tough market?
@@DirtBikeTestit’s crazy how many companies have gotten into dirt bikes in the last decade, is the market really that big?
@@DirtBikeTest two reasons
1. scaled economies
2. emerging markets (this one is obvious to anyone who isn't American, because Americans are completely self absorbed and think the world revolves around them)
fully scaled economies: the actual manufacturing for motorcycles, globally speaking, is 10 times more efficient than it was even 10 years ago. Making 400 motorcycles isn't any more expensive than making 4000 of them, like it was traditionally in large scale manufacturing.
the barriers to entry aren't the same anymore. You don't have to build a state of the art manufacturing plant in China anymore, or anywhere else. you just borrow one.
In modern car and motorcycle manufacturing, marketing and design is where most of the expenses are. If you are a modern Triumph (Bloor Holdings) or a Ducati ( Volkswagen Group) you already have massive marketing and design resources at your disposal, so the barriers to entry are almost nothing for them. Plus, already being well respected names in motorcycling creates a ton of cross-over connections as far as supply chains, vendors, and other third part business entities. Stack that on top of their loyal, premium customer base, and it sort of a no brainer. there isn't much to loose even if it all goes tits up. Reputation and image being the factors you'd worry about most...not profit loss.
Emerging markets: this is quite simple. there are more markets for dirt bikes than in the past. India, China, United Arab Emirates, ect..., are all markets for full size motorcycles that didn't exist 20 years ago. India and China alone represent almost a 1/4 of the worlds population.
@@DirtBikeTestto pick up the younger guys and girls to increase their market share and secure their future better than they already have
@@nolansmith1211young people get into Moto, if they buy a triumph when young then they'll buy one for the road as well or later in life, same reason Ducati is doing it.
I absolutely love these new Yamaha’s with their power tune app. You can make the bike perform exactly how you want the engine to perform. I’ve got a WR 250 F I’m going to buy the 2025 WR 450 this fall I’ve had the 250 for a full year now put 4500 km probably somewhere around 130 hours 135 hours. I haven’t had no issues with this bike as long as you keep up with the maintenance schedules. The manual set out the bike is a dream. it revs up so fast 16,000 RPM. I’ve got up to about 145 km an hour on it the 250 F but this triumph is a different bike gets a track bike right pretty decent for bike though I give them that it’ll be cool if they did the same thing as Yamaha with the power tune app make it so that you can change the maps on the ECU. I’ve got five maps in my phone and two on the bike already. I just went with a t torque map and the MX map aggressive power I love that rocket ship. What’s the price range on these new triumphs?
Good stuff. All the testers are saying they are flexxy but I heard from private buyers that the frames are really stiff. Looks like alot of feedback through your bars as well. Maybe it's just the really small chatter or something??
I guess it depends on what you compare it to. Triumph borrowed a lot of yamahas frame design which is known to be very very stiff in the last few years. If they made a less stiff version of the yz frame. In that case it would be more flex-y. But if you compare it to even a old 2019 yz, the triumph may still be stiffer.
Nice thanks bring back TTT Tuesday
Ok, Just for you Tonight!
Not to crowded when its 110 out.. I got a new blue ice set of nut and torso huggers I wanna test. But I got to make room in the freezer.
i think maybe aim the camera higher on the pov riding
Ask Jaleek Swoll on engine durability 😢
Because nobody has ever lost a motor racing.
i'll stick with my 04 yz250
😅
A Dakar story would be a great time filler!
You dont shift down twice in the middle of the corner not worthy of being a test rider
You need to Watch Ricky Carmichael going around gator back cycle park no dips in power & hes doing 65 mph all the way around the track its you as a bad rider not the bike
If you change up early the tourqe will pull hard in the next gear that was the whole reason of changing to the 4T engine
@matthewtoes. We spoke to Ricky to verify some things. Review our discussion on Tech Talk # 231 and Ricky’s answer will come on #232.
Have you fallen on your head?
Yes, many times. Not including when Jimmy was dropped, likely on purpose.
Are you wearing the action cam on your belt? WFT man.
Ugly bike , very boring looks.
Compared to what? Your TH-cam profile? The presenter in this video?
U can change the plastics and graphics.