THANK YOU Patricia and Marietta , your example of simplicity and Love with Mary touches my heart and I recognize the messages as familiar to my heart and soul 🌹🧚♀️🎶💛I can hear her singing 🎶🎶🧚♀️🎶through you both . Thank you and bless you both 🌹👯♀️🌹💛💖🎶🙋🏻♀️Vicki
Dear Mother Mary, mother of God in human appearance, is also our mother giving birth to God in what appears to be our human appearance only, yet is really also God's. Not many Christians nowadays might know what the early Christian writers and preachers after the apostles wrote and preached. Here are some examples, and these two first ones are not only referring to an event taking place thousand of years ago, but to now. It describes Who it is given us to be, here called "He", and who as Such we experience being as humans. "What He was, He laid aside; what He was not, He assumed. He takes upon Himself the poverty of my flesh so that I may receive the riches of His divinity." ~St. Gregory of Nazianzus "He Who gives riches becomes poor, for He assumes the poverty of my flesh, that I may assume the richness of His Godhead. He that is full empties Himself, for He empties Himself of His glory for a short while, that I may have a share in His Fulness." ~St. Gregory Nazianzus Jesus teaches us not to judge by appearances. So Who is it in and as us that sees His human imperfections (in the appearance of the sinful flesh God came in according to the Bible) when we see them in ourselves? "Those who are already spiritual, and those who are still carnal have You made;" for so the Son Himself says, "Your Eyes have seen My imperfect being. That which is imperfect in My body, Your eyes have seen." ~St. Augustine, Sermon 85 § 6. According to Jesus in the NT, anyone saying "He is here", or "He is there" pointing at one particular person, excluding everyone else, including him- or herself, is a false teacher, as is anyone saying "I am the Christ" excluding the rest of us. The Second Coming is in the human appearance of all of us. Even in the appearance of the sinful flesh. While the Christ in all of us is sinless. Who are we all really (thank God) according to the early Christian writers and preachers? Who in us believes in himself "I am Christ" when we believe it about ourselves? "This is the work in which we may be doing the works of Christ, for even our very believing in Christ is the work of Christ. It is this He works in us, not certainly without us.” ~St. Augustine, Homilies on John, Tractate 71 (John 14:10-14) "I will restore you to yourself, when I shall have restored you unto Me." ~St. Augustine, Sermon 73 on the New Testament "He rightly returns to himself, because he departed from himself. For he who returns to God restores himself to himself, and he who departs from Christ rejects himself from himself." ~St. Ambrose, Catena Aurea, Luke 15:17 "What a joy for those who, after they have suffered for the love of God, know themselves in possession of an ineffably reward, which is no other than God Himself." ~St. Augustine "Blessed be God, for so bountifully providing for us that He even bestows on us His very Self." ~St. John of Avila, Finding Confidence in Times of Trial. "What God seeks, he being himself God by nature, is to make us gods through participation, just as fire converts all things into fire." ~St. John of the Cross, Sayings of Light and Love, #107. "Accordingly, souls possess the same goods by participation that the Son possesses by nature. As a result they are truly gods by participation, equals and companions of God." ~St. John of the Cross, Spiritual Canticles. Stanza 39. More: Wikipedia: "Divinization (Christian)" 🙂❤
PS: Mary once called Joseph Jesus father to him when he was still a child but already teaching the scribes: "And all who heard Him were astonished at His understanding and answers. So when they saw Him, they were amazed; and His mother said to Him, “Son, why have You done this to us? Look, Your father and I have sought You anxiously.” And He said to them, “Why did you seek Me? Did you not know that I must be about My Father’s business?” ~Luke 2:48-49 Joseph is the father of God in human appearance as the intellect or understanding. Reason why the Son of God is also called the Son of Man. Mary and Joseph had to return to the place where he was teaching to find him again: in the temple that is our body. Not somewhere outside of us, for there he is not to be found. The Soul is considered to be female, the feeling part of us. while the Spirit is considered male, the more thinking about the divine truth part. Together they are engendering the Love and Wisdom of God in us. Although there might come a point in the spiritual development of God in us where the Son of God and Man says: "The Father is greater than I." and "I go to the Father." The divine Father Who is greater than the human father or human understanding. As the example of God's spiritual development in us: "And Jesus increased in wisdom. stature, and favor with God and man." ~Luke 2:52 "Jesus" means "Savior", and that is what God's Self is, the Self He gave us to have and be, saving us from the belief that we are imperfect human creatures... yet we may love them for being the appearances of God, and so that God consciously loves Himself also as us. "Remembers God now also as I: 'Also this was I beforehand willing to experience now out of love for the soul of this human and that of its neighbors, that also it and they would know and enjoy that they are the infinitely altruistically loving One'." 🙂❤
THANK YOU Patricia and Marietta , your example of simplicity and Love with Mary touches my heart and I recognize the messages as familiar to my heart and soul 🌹🧚♀️🎶💛I can hear her singing 🎶🎶🧚♀️🎶through you both . Thank you and bless you both 🌹👯♀️🌹💛💖🎶🙋🏻♀️Vicki
And I’m so happy to join you at 6 … some of us do a similar prayer either Mary at 4:00 pm 🌹🌹🌹🎶🧚♀️💛🌹🌹🌹🌹🎶🧚♀️💛🙏🌹🙋🏻♀️🌹🌹🌹🕊️🌹🌹
Dear Mother Mary, mother of God in human appearance, is also our mother giving birth to God in what appears to be our human appearance only, yet is really also God's.
Not many Christians nowadays might know what the early Christian writers and preachers after the apostles wrote and preached. Here are some examples, and these two first ones are not only referring to an event taking place thousand of years ago, but to now. It describes Who it is given us to be, here called "He", and who as Such we experience being as humans.
"What He was, He laid aside; what He was not, He assumed.
He takes upon Himself the poverty of my flesh so that I may receive the riches of His divinity."
~St. Gregory of Nazianzus
"He Who gives riches becomes poor, for He assumes the poverty of my flesh, that I may assume the richness of His Godhead. He that is full empties Himself, for He empties Himself of His glory for a short while, that I may have a share in His Fulness."
~St. Gregory Nazianzus
Jesus teaches us not to judge by appearances.
So Who is it in and as us that sees His human imperfections (in the appearance of the sinful flesh God came in according to the Bible) when we see them in ourselves?
"Those who are already spiritual, and those who are still carnal have You made;" for so the Son Himself says, "Your Eyes have seen My imperfect being. That which is imperfect in My body, Your eyes have seen."
~St. Augustine, Sermon 85 § 6.
According to Jesus in the NT, anyone saying "He is here", or "He is there" pointing at one particular person, excluding everyone else, including him- or herself, is a false teacher, as is anyone saying "I am the Christ" excluding the rest of us. The Second Coming is in the human appearance of all of us. Even in the appearance of the sinful flesh. While the Christ in all of us is sinless.
Who are we all really (thank God) according to the early Christian writers and preachers?
Who in us believes in himself "I am Christ" when we believe it about ourselves?
"This is the work in which we may be doing the works of Christ, for even our very believing in Christ is the work of Christ. It is this He works in us, not certainly without us.”
~St. Augustine, Homilies on John, Tractate 71 (John 14:10-14)
"I will restore you to yourself, when I shall have restored you unto Me."
~St. Augustine, Sermon 73 on the New Testament
"He rightly returns to himself, because he departed from himself. For he who returns to God restores himself to himself, and he who departs from Christ rejects himself from himself."
~St. Ambrose, Catena Aurea, Luke 15:17
"What a joy for those who, after they have suffered for the love of God, know themselves in possession of an ineffably reward, which is no other than God Himself."
~St. Augustine
"Blessed be God, for so bountifully providing for us that He even bestows on us His very Self."
~St. John of Avila, Finding Confidence in Times of Trial.
"What God seeks, he being himself God by nature, is to make us gods through participation, just as fire converts all things into fire."
~St. John of the Cross, Sayings of Light and Love, #107.
"Accordingly, souls possess the same goods by participation that the Son possesses by nature. As a result they are truly gods by participation, equals and companions of God."
~St. John of the Cross, Spiritual Canticles. Stanza 39.
More: Wikipedia: "Divinization (Christian)"
🙂❤
PS:
Mary once called Joseph Jesus father to him when he was still a child but already teaching the scribes:
"And all who heard Him were astonished at His understanding and answers. So when they saw Him, they were amazed; and His mother said to Him, “Son, why have You done this to us? Look, Your father and I have sought You anxiously.”
And He said to them, “Why did you seek Me? Did you not know that I must be about My Father’s business?”
~Luke 2:48-49
Joseph is the father of God in human appearance as the intellect or understanding. Reason why the Son of God is also called the Son of Man. Mary and Joseph had to return to the place where he was teaching to find him again: in the temple that is our body. Not somewhere outside of us, for there he is not to be found.
The Soul is considered to be female, the feeling part of us. while the Spirit is considered male, the more thinking about the divine truth part. Together they are engendering the Love and Wisdom of God in us.
Although there might come a point in the spiritual development of God in us where the Son of God and Man says:
"The Father is greater than I." and "I go to the Father." The divine Father Who is greater than the human father or human understanding.
As the example of God's spiritual development in us:
"And Jesus increased in wisdom. stature, and favor with God and man."
~Luke 2:52
"Jesus" means "Savior", and that is what God's Self is, the Self He gave us to have and be, saving us from the belief that we are imperfect human creatures... yet we may love them for being the appearances of God, and so that God consciously loves Himself also as us.
"Remembers God now also as I: 'Also this was I beforehand willing to experience now out of love for the soul of this human and that of its neighbors, that also it and they would know and enjoy that they are the infinitely altruistically loving One'."
🙂❤