It's a Universal Geneva White Shadow with a hand-skeletonized Cal 1-67 movement. I recently made a 14 minute long video of close-ups of it accompanied by music that you can find on the channel. I'll post a link to that video in a separate answer because TH-cam sometimes suppresses links -- even if they're to other videos on the same channel.
I know exactly what you mean about that being the fun kind of stress! You seem a bit more confident & relaxed in this video than in a few of the earlier ones where you were cuttings wheels or pinions.
Hi Dayton! Great video. Just one correction. The indent you saw on the shaft of the center wheel is intentionally turned into it by the manufacturer. This indent has to correspond with any indent on the inner wall of the cannon pinion. The purpose is to prevent the canon pinion from walking up the shaft or arbor of that center wheel while the time is being set. If the indentation on the cannon pinion is not aligned with that, the pinion will likely rise above the minute wheel and eventually disconnect. So it actually serves a purpose and is not caused by wear
Hi Chris! I was talking about actual surface wear that I could see at the top of the chamfer or indent, not the indent itself. But you’re right to point out that the center shaft does have an intentional notch since I didn’t make it clear that what I could see appeared to be actual wear.
Nail clippers. Gentle nip! To save the family’s new ones, I used the slightly rustier clippers we had in the bathroom for the Omega 601 that needed this job recently. I think you found Bergeon’s cheapest tool though!
What watch was the Omega 601 you worked on from? I know that movement well. I have one from the end of the run in the watch I call the "GG". 1962- 1970 was a great time for Omega.
@@IMakeWatches It's from my 1968 Genève. I watched and read all about your GG. A great story and theory re. the drawer-found Swatch prototype. In fact, you inspired me to get the Hayek biography and also eBay a £12 Swatch as I'd never owned one. This must be your power as an influencer! One thing, while we're on the subject: the part of your GG theory that I don't see is the idea that Hayek gave Genta the Polaris brief to make up for using his old design. I'm just not sure Genta would have cared much so long after delivering a forgotten prototype. Also, the Swatch was in production before Hayek with Thomke. Would Hayek have needed an excuse to use Genta for the Polaris anyway? Who knows? But it's a great story of intrigue, the whole GG watch you have. Thanks for sharing all of that.
@@mrkrsl_ Ha! Yes, Swatch should pay me for driving up sales on used Swatches! About Genta, he didn't forget the GG. His widow told me that he told her about it and specifically that it was designed for Omega, not for Swatch. Swatch did have to keep that a secret somehow, and whether explicit in the deal (which I believe) or implicit, the Polaris contract did seal his secrecy pact with Hayek. And Hayek did wear the Polaris religiously for the rest of his life. BTW, thank you for following that story and I appreciate your mentioning it!
Hello Dayton,your videos are always interesting and not predictable. Love watching them. Can you please let me know where or which video you were talking about a "muff" watch, because you have so much content in one video, im unable to locate it myself. Thank you.
Great comment! Could do but on a Patek that would be incredibly expensive and was not necessary in this case. The chamfer in the center wheel staff is supposed to be there, even if worn by 1/100th of a millimeter, and cannon pinions are made to be "lanterned" when a service of this nature is required. That said, if you sent it back to Patek that's likely what they would do. And on cheaper watches with ample parts supplies it's a very good idea to explore replacing any part with a new part before investing more than the value of the watch in tools that one doesn't own. In any case you're right that a new center wheel and a new cannon pinion could be used to make this repair, although to change the center wheel complete disassembly and reassembly of the movement would be required.
Thanks for this comment. I do try and I will try even harder in the future. It's easy to get caught up in the work and forget about the viewer experience.
What watch are you wearing? Looks striking!
It's a Universal Geneva White Shadow with a hand-skeletonized Cal 1-67 movement. I recently made a 14 minute long video of close-ups of it accompanied by music that you can find on the channel. I'll post a link to that video in a separate answer because TH-cam sometimes suppresses links -- even if they're to other videos on the same channel.
th-cam.com/video/VDsx7b9Gj6c/w-d-xo.html
Great video, equipment and set up. Of course that the display of watchmaking equipment and skill showed was also nice and educating. Thanks
Thanks!
I know exactly what you mean about that being the fun kind of stress! You seem a bit more confident & relaxed in this video than in a few of the earlier ones where you were cuttings wheels or pinions.
Thanks! If I come off as seeming confident or relaxed I apologize for that. That is certainly not my intention! 😂😂😂
Hi Dayton! Great video. Just one correction. The indent you saw on the shaft of the center wheel is intentionally turned into it by the manufacturer. This indent has to correspond with any indent on the inner wall of the cannon pinion. The purpose is to prevent the canon pinion from walking up the shaft or arbor of that center wheel while the time is being set. If the indentation on the cannon pinion is not aligned with that, the pinion will likely rise above the minute wheel and eventually disconnect. So it actually serves a purpose and is not caused by wear
Hi Chris! I was talking about actual surface wear that I could see at the top of the chamfer or indent, not the indent itself. But you’re right to point out that the center shaft does have an intentional notch since I didn’t make it clear that what I could see appeared to be actual wear.
Nail clippers. Gentle nip! To save the family’s new ones, I used the slightly rustier clippers we had in the bathroom for the Omega 601 that needed this job recently. I think you found Bergeon’s cheapest tool though!
Great tip! And you're right about that set of four stakes being a bargain for Bergeon!
What watch was the Omega 601 you worked on from? I know that movement well. I have one from the end of the run in the watch I call the "GG". 1962- 1970 was a great time for Omega.
@@IMakeWatches It's from my 1968 Genève. I watched and read all about your GG. A great story and theory re. the drawer-found Swatch prototype. In fact, you inspired me to get the Hayek biography and also eBay a £12 Swatch as I'd never owned one. This must be your power as an influencer!
One thing, while we're on the subject: the part of your GG theory that I don't see is the idea that Hayek gave Genta the Polaris brief to make up for using his old design. I'm just not sure Genta would have cared much so long after delivering a forgotten prototype. Also, the Swatch was in production before Hayek with Thomke. Would Hayek have needed an excuse to use Genta for the Polaris anyway? Who knows? But it's a great story of intrigue, the whole GG watch you have. Thanks for sharing all of that.
@@mrkrsl_ Ha! Yes, Swatch should pay me for driving up sales on used Swatches!
About Genta, he didn't forget the GG. His widow told me that he told her about it and specifically that it was designed for Omega, not for Swatch. Swatch did have to keep that a secret somehow, and whether explicit in the deal (which I believe) or implicit, the Polaris contract did seal his secrecy pact with Hayek. And Hayek did wear the Polaris religiously for the rest of his life.
BTW, thank you for following that story and I appreciate your mentioning it!
"The process itself is where the joy is".
Such a beautiful adventure!
Thanks Stan! When are you going to publish a long form video where we can see your milling machine! I need more! 😂😂😂
@@IMakeWatches thanks mate, yeah I want to share more.
Hello Dayton,your videos are always interesting and not predictable. Love watching them. Can you please let me know where or which video you were talking about a "muff" watch, because you have so much content in one video, im unable to locate it myself. Thank you.
Hi Michael, I think it's the hairspring from India video. If it's not I'll edit this comment when I find the correct one.
Perhaps replace the center wheel....
Great comment! Could do but on a Patek that would be incredibly expensive and was not necessary in this case. The chamfer in the center wheel staff is supposed to be there, even if worn by 1/100th of a millimeter, and cannon pinions are made to be "lanterned" when a service of this nature is required. That said, if you sent it back to Patek that's likely what they would do. And on cheaper watches with ample parts supplies it's a very good idea to explore replacing any part with a new part before investing more than the value of the watch in tools that one doesn't own. In any case you're right that a new center wheel and a new cannon pinion could be used to make this repair, although to change the center wheel complete disassembly and reassembly of the movement would be required.
Are you a trained watchmaker or a hobbyist?
I'm a TH-camr! 😂😂😂
@IMakeWatches hi I'm unclear of your meaning, are you a train horologist or just doing this for fun.
Should say "trained"
@@patrickspencer4360 Train horologist! 😂😂😂 th-cam.com/users/shortsykIFqZPy0R0
@IMakeWatches thank you
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You should see my vintage camera collection!
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When showing items, plese do not move them around! As a viewer I want to have a chance to see what you are showing!!
Thanks for this comment. I do try and I will try even harder in the future. It's easy to get caught up in the work and forget about the viewer experience.
@@IMakeWatches That´s OK. Thanks for an interesting video though!