@Stratotramp made a comment but for some reason the comment only shows up in the e-mail I received from YT. Thank you for your feedback. We will make a more comprehensive video soon. We slapped this one together real quick as Tyler had to leave for the US, I only realised later that we missed some areas and that some footage were a bit shaky. See this as a teaser....... Also just a small correction, this will not be the first KFA to the US, we have a KFA Safari on floats in Texas......been there since 2016.
Yup...I think I need one! Never seen stall fences on the stab before. I really like the wing setup. Great plane. And yeah, this is a great little video, thank you.
Very interesting. Over in the "States" we have of course "KITFOX" then there is the ever popular "JUST AIRCRAFT" and soon the "KFA." What is the price point and will it be competitive with the already USA manufactured (no shipping over seas fees) Aircraft listed above? Lead times on kits including shipping? Replacement parts lead time with shipping? Where will it be supported from (Direct from Africa ONLY or satellite operation or Builder Center in the USA)? Have you already sorted out a location in the USA? (Feel free to contact us directly). :-)
Hi Brian, I thought I would wait a while before answering. A lot of people talk but there is no action...Tyler's plane and a Safari kit arrived in Atlanta and he is busy with the assembly and final paperwork process for his airworthiness. He should be flight ready real soon. To answer your questions, yes we are planning a S-LSA facility (for the Explorer) in the not too distant future and we will definitely be looking at builder assist centres in the most popular regions for both the Explorer and Safari builders. (let me see a show of hands from interested parties)........As for support, I think we probably offer the best builder support in the industry, our kit completion rates are exceptionally high at above 90% by the original purchaser. The factory staff and myself can be contacted direct by builders via whatsapp, e-mail and other platforms. With every shipment to the USA we will be adding additional parts and stock to build up an inventory (We already have some in Atlanta GA and Mineola TX). The aircraft is so simple to maintain that parts can easily be manufactured in the US if required. Whoever maintains a tube and fabric aircraft will be able to maintain this one. At KFA you are not just an owner or pilot, you become family, I know most of the owners personally and we have groups for KFA owners from all over the world. Some countries have their own groups and then we also have the main KFA group which is administered by myself. We might be slightly unknown in the US but we have been around for a 30 years now so be assured, we will be sticking around......... Hope to meet up with you at some point. We will most probably be exhibiting at Oshkosh this year.
The American public and LSA community are screaming for more airplanes and kits in this performance and feature market....this airplane will fill in the void left by one or two stateside companies that can't keep up to the demand right now. I do hope you can price this BELOW the American market and in doing so, sell a bunch of these aircraft. We want it........now.
Then you can call a Kitfox a níce Avid Flyer. KFA is building this planes almost for 30 years. Check th-cam.com/video/7ryNf2q81TQ/w-d-xo.html and you see what the bigger model has to offer.
What market is there for bush planes in Atlanta or even the Eastern US for that matter? You will need a base in Boise, Idaho for best growth potential. Southern Idaho is the center of the bush plane universe in the Lower 48 States, Alaska is the Mecca of bush flying. See you when you get here. Be looking for you.
Hi Lynn, although this is a bush plane in all respects. Our target market will be both bush flying and recreational flying in general and more specifically the Explorer is aimed at the LSA market, with the advantage of being a bush plane. The plane has wings and is not a slow bush plane so we will be flying all over the US soon 😉.
Very familiar with Dean and the Avid Flyer. Great pioneer of the industry. If you’re interested in what separates us from the rest, feel free to reach out.
Thank you for your comment. We are still working on the factory build LSA for the USA. For now we are concentrating on Oshkosh 2023 and have just shipped a container with 3 planes to our North American distributor to complete for the show. At the moment the experimental market is our largest market so we mostly concentrated on that sector for NA. These are exiting times for KFA as we are expanding capacity and improving performance and quality. Watch this space.
@ClearedAsFiled Yes we do. The best is to contact us via our website. We can then send you a quote. Our new company KFA Adventure Gear will be operating from early next year. That company will concentrate on all KFA accessories, camping and adventure gear and some other exciting developments we are busy with. Items will be available via an online store platform.
Love everything about the KFA. looked into importing them to NZ. NZ market is in need of this kind of product. Unfortunately we have found them to be very slack on returning any contact to us after a number of weeks. Very disappointing.
Good day, I am very sorry that you did not get any feedback. I can assure you that ALL correspondence go through me personally so there must have been an error somewhere. I have been in contact with two possible distributors in NZ but we never concluded anything so far. Please feel free to contact me at info @saplane.co.za. Regards. Stefan
unless its price point is below kitfox and just , i dont know how much american market you really have avaiable to you , consider the cost to ship it over , seems like eveyones trying ot make light sport cost more money !!! the market needs afforadble easy to build
Hi Zack, thanks for your feedback. We will be bringing an affordable (not cheap), proven, capable bush plane to the US market which is easy to build whilst still complying with all the relevant regulatory requirements. We invite you to come for a flight once its in the USA. The plane will do the talking. We have been around for a very long time. We just never concentrated on the US market. Also keep in mind that this plane has a German DULV production type certificate.
@@kfaaircraftandadventures is there any bush even in Germany i dont see any value there as an american but hey ,, bottom line if its another 100k bush plane we already got alot of those all look the same and do the same thing !! just aircraft, kitfox rans , and all the one offs cub manufactors out there !
@@BLAMBERRY Sorry I missed this comment. This plane is not expensive and its not cheap. We offer much more for less than most of our worthy competitors.
So instead of just saying it's different than a kitfox, how about explaining what makes it different! Cessna columbia is still considered a cirrus copy and see how long that lasted in the market. Better get big or better real quick
Do not worry about lasting in the Market. The company is building this planes for almost 30 years. Here you can find more details covering the certified factory built version for Europe. The Experimental versions have even more choices regarding engines and avionics. th-cam.com/video/j04lvHkYn1s/w-d-xo.html That video is covering the the 915is Safari, but the Explorer has the same features just without a luggage door and with a smaller cabin: th-cam.com/video/7ryNf2q81TQ/w-d-xo.html
Hu Lynn, when you see the KF and our planes next to each other you will retract your statement. They are miles apart. I also wonder how Dean Wilson felt about KF copying their design? same goes for Eurofox, Apollo fox etc etc. I think most similar designs were initially derived from Dean Wilsons design and then all grew from there and developed independently.
@@kfaaircraftandadventures I started working for Avid three months after it was introduced. I've seen 99% of it. There are over 13 direct or indirect descendants of Dean Wilsons design. In my view he designed the second most popular homebuilt airplane in the world. KFA and Kitfox owe a lot to him.
@@jimraeder9419 Thanks for your feedback. Once you see the plane you will realise that it is not even close the either the KF or the Avid. But yes, most of these type of designs were started by Dean and then refined by others. Its the natural evolution of things. Same happens to most other aircraft designs and other technologies. It was inspired by Dean's design but not copied from.
@@jimraeder9419 Thanks for your feedback. Once you see the plane you will realise that it is not even close the either the KF or the Avid. But yes, most of these type of designs were started by Dean and then refined by others. Its the natural evolution of things. Same happens to most other aircraft designs and other technologies.
@@tylerdowdy2873 Doesn't matter. The fact they look so close that I'll always have to take a second look, means that it will forever be seen that way. You're just going to have to get used to it. I have no issue with copies, just don't get upset when people call a copy a copy.
@@SoloRenegade not upset at all! I welcome the comparison. I also look forward to representing a great product with even better service (and turning some heads 😉). Hope to see you at some shows!
@Stratotramp made a comment but for some reason the comment only shows up in the e-mail I received from YT. Thank you for your feedback. We will make a more comprehensive video soon. We slapped this one together real quick as Tyler had to leave for the US, I only realised later that we missed some areas and that some footage were a bit shaky. See this as a teaser.......
Also just a small correction, this will not be the first KFA to the US, we have a KFA Safari on floats in Texas......been there since 2016.
Looked good to me, I know how hard videos are to make. Great looking plane. P.S. Did my solo this evening. Pretty chuffed!
@@stratotramp6243 well done man. Is quite an achievement.
That plane is beautiful!
Yup...I think I need one! Never seen stall fences on the stab before. I really like the wing setup. Great plane. And yeah, this is a great little video, thank you.
Thank you Daniel. Hope to see you join the KFA family soon..
@@kfaaircraftandadventures Love to...just need my PPL now!!
Saw your planes at Oshkosh, very nice.
Very cool aircraft. Looks like a winner.
If it flies as great as it looks you got a winner!
Very interesting. Over in the "States" we have of course "KITFOX" then there is the ever popular "JUST AIRCRAFT" and soon the "KFA." What is the price point and will it be competitive with the already USA manufactured (no shipping over seas fees) Aircraft listed above? Lead times on kits including shipping? Replacement parts lead time with shipping? Where will it be supported from (Direct from Africa ONLY or satellite operation or Builder Center in the USA)? Have you already sorted out a location in the USA? (Feel free to contact us directly). :-)
I got your email, Bryan.
I’ll reach out early this week. Thanks!
Hi Brian, I thought I would wait a while before answering. A lot of people talk but there is no action...Tyler's plane and a Safari kit arrived in Atlanta and he is busy with the assembly and final paperwork process for his airworthiness. He should be flight ready real soon. To answer your questions, yes we are planning a S-LSA facility (for the Explorer) in the not too distant future and we will definitely be looking at builder assist centres in the most popular regions for both the Explorer and Safari builders. (let me see a show of hands from interested parties)........As for support, I think we probably offer the best builder support in the industry, our kit completion rates are exceptionally high at above 90% by the original purchaser. The factory staff and myself can be contacted direct by builders via whatsapp, e-mail and other platforms. With every shipment to the USA we will be adding additional parts and stock to build up an inventory (We already have some in Atlanta GA and Mineola TX). The aircraft is so simple to maintain that parts can easily be manufactured in the US if required. Whoever maintains a tube and fabric aircraft will be able to maintain this one. At KFA you are not just an owner or pilot, you become family, I know most of the owners personally and we have groups for KFA owners from all over the world. Some countries have their own groups and then we also have the main KFA group which is administered by myself. We might be slightly unknown in the US but we have been around for a 30 years now so be assured, we will be sticking around......... Hope to meet up with you at some point. We will most probably be exhibiting at Oshkosh this year.
Might need to start visiting many of the STOL events to drum up some customers!
That’s the plan! She’ll be stateside soon.
The American public and LSA community are screaming for more airplanes and kits in this performance and feature market....this airplane will fill in the void left by one or two stateside companies that can't keep up to the demand right now. I do hope you can price this BELOW the American market and in doing so, sell a bunch of these aircraft. We want it........now.
Bad ass looking plane.
Nice plane! 😃👍🏼
Thanks! 👍
Nice presentation! Awesome bush airplane! It will be a huge success in the USA.😎🇺🇸
I believe so as well. I am sure Tyler will make a success of things. I have faith.
Awesome...
Thanks
I like the proud flaps/ailerons…very reminiscent of the Feisler Storch
Nice Kitfox!!!!
Then you can call a Kitfox a níce Avid Flyer. KFA is building this planes almost for 30 years.
Check th-cam.com/video/7ryNf2q81TQ/w-d-xo.html and you see what the bigger model has to offer.
Nice Kitfox! :)
What market is there for bush planes in Atlanta or even the Eastern US for that matter? You will need a base in Boise, Idaho for best growth potential. Southern Idaho is the center of the bush plane universe in the Lower 48 States, Alaska is the Mecca of bush flying. See you when you get here. Be looking for you.
😀
Hi Lynn, although this is a bush plane in all respects. Our target market will be both bush flying and recreational flying in general and more specifically the Explorer is aimed at the LSA market, with the advantage of being a bush plane. The plane has wings and is not a slow bush plane so we will be flying all over the US soon 😉.
It’s an airplane. You can fly it there
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Nice acft
Thanks, David!
Ever heard of Dean Wilson? Cause that's who designed your airplane back in 1983.
Very familiar with Dean and the Avid Flyer. Great pioneer of the industry.
If you’re interested in what separates us from the rest, feel free to reach out.
Give it a break, it's the same with "Cubs", cars, bicycles, blah blah the list is infinite. It's the details that matter.
Looks like a Kitfox to me!
Pricing? Fast build option? Owner assisted build option at dealer's location?
Feel free to send me an email. Tyler@kfa-usa.com
Yes there is a quick build option.
And working on the last part.
Looks really nice. Do the wing fold? if yes, will it fit in a trailer? Thanks and best of luck to you.
Yes, the wings fold. I have never tried putting it inside a trailer but we transport them all over Africa on the back of open trailers.
The folded width is in the region of 2,4m
@@kfaaircraftandadventures Thank you.
KFA planes are awesome.... Any updates as to the availability of factory built planes in the USA market?
Thank you for your comment. We are still working on the factory build LSA for the USA. For now we are concentrating on Oshkosh 2023 and have just shipped a container with 3 planes to our North American distributor to complete for the show. At the moment the experimental market is our largest market so we mostly concentrated on that sector for NA. These are exiting times for KFA as we are expanding capacity and improving performance and quality. Watch this space.
@@kfaaircraftandadventures Does KFA sell any hats or shirts???
@ClearedAsFiled Yes we do. The best is to contact us via our website. We can then send you a quote. Our new company KFA Adventure Gear will be operating from early next year. That company will concentrate on all KFA accessories, camping and adventure gear and some other exciting developments we are busy with. Items will be available via an online store platform.
Love everything about the KFA. looked into importing them to NZ. NZ market is in need of this kind of product. Unfortunately we have found them to be very slack on returning any contact to us after a number of weeks. Very disappointing.
Good day, I am very sorry that you did not get any feedback. I can assure you that ALL correspondence go through me personally so there must have been an error somewhere. I have been in contact with two possible distributors in NZ but we never concluded anything so far. Please feel free to contact me at info @saplane.co.za. Regards. Stefan
@@kfaaircraftandadventures It would be a winner in NZ and AU.
NICE!!
Where can one be seen in the USA?
Hi Kevin, this plane will be shipped by end of Oct and will be in the States first week December. It will be based near Atlanta for now.
Cool plane, wish you luck. Your switches are upside down.
This is like a derivative of the KitFox except you don't have to spend years building it.
Looks like you can buy 'Kitfoxes' from anywhere around the world.
@@pylon500 you can buy a kit from the USA but you can buy the fully equipped plane from this company.
unless its price point is below kitfox and just , i dont know how much american market you really have avaiable to you , consider the cost to ship it over , seems like eveyones trying ot make light sport cost more money !!! the market needs afforadble easy to build
Hi Zack, thanks for your feedback. We will be bringing an affordable (not cheap), proven, capable bush plane to the US market which is easy to build whilst still complying with all the relevant regulatory requirements. We invite you to come for a flight once its in the USA. The plane will do the talking. We have been around for a very long time. We just never concentrated on the US market. Also keep in mind that this plane has a German DULV production type certificate.
@@kfaaircraftandadventures is there any bush even in Germany i dont see any value there as an american but hey ,, bottom line if its another 100k bush plane we already got alot of those all look the same and do the same thing !! just aircraft, kitfox rans , and all the one offs cub manufactors out there !
@@zackriden79 true! yet another 100K$$ LSA is NOT what we need
@@zackriden79 I could easily build a Vans RV7 for far less than 100K. These "bush" planes are too expensive.
@@SoloRenegade i would agree with you , the market has far to many 100k plus LSA's
what makes this aircraft better than other similar bush planes?
Well, it is like the comparison between Jerky and Biltong. Once you have tried it you will know.
Is there an agent in Australia and does it come with a 912 IS
Hi there, We do have dealers in Australia. The details are on our website. www.kitplanesforafrica.co.za. Yes the 912iS can be fitted to the Explorer.
@@kfaaircraftandadventures thank you very much
My advice: don't price it like an RV
i notice this comment didn’t get a like
@@BLAMBERRY Sorry I missed this comment. This plane is not expensive and its not cheap. We offer much more for less than most of our worthy competitors.
Looks like kitfox or eurofox, what's the reason for buying this one, that come from South Africa, instead?
Healthy competition is in the favour of the buyers.😊
Same reason people buy EuroFox from Slovakia (where it’s made). It’s a well built airplane.
@@tylerdowdy2873 This plane looks more STOL capable...
Will it handle a 200 hp Lycoming or similar hp Turbine?
Not on this model as we limit the MTOW to 600kg (1320lbs).
I like it, let me know how to order.
Feel free to contact me at Tyler@kfa-aircraft.com
I’ll give you a call from there.
How mucho is te plan
Let me know your region and I will send you the details. You can also contact us via the website www.kitplanesforafrica.co.za
Why am I not sold?
Not sure. Come check us out at Oshkosh 2022!
@@tylerdowdy2873 OK. I may do that.
So instead of just saying it's different than a kitfox, how about explaining what makes it different! Cessna columbia is still considered a cirrus copy and see how long that lasted in the market. Better get big or better real quick
Do not worry about lasting in the Market. The company is building this planes for almost 30 years. Here you can find more details covering the certified factory built version for Europe. The Experimental versions have even more choices regarding engines and avionics.
th-cam.com/video/j04lvHkYn1s/w-d-xo.html
That video is covering the the 915is Safari, but the Explorer has the same features just without a luggage door and with a smaller cabin: th-cam.com/video/7ryNf2q81TQ/w-d-xo.html
I wonder how Kitfox feels about having a design stolen?
Hu Lynn, when you see the KF and our planes next to each other you will retract your statement. They are miles apart. I also wonder how Dean Wilson felt about KF copying their design? same goes for Eurofox, Apollo fox etc etc. I think most similar designs were initially derived from Dean Wilsons design and then all grew from there and developed independently.
I wonder how Dean Wilson feels about his Avid Flyer design being stolen?
@@kfaaircraftandadventures I started working for Avid three months after it was introduced. I've seen 99% of it. There are over 13 direct or indirect descendants of Dean Wilsons design. In my view he designed the second most popular homebuilt airplane in the world. KFA and Kitfox owe a lot to him.
@@jimraeder9419 Thanks for your feedback. Once you see the plane you will realise that it is not even close the either the KF or the Avid. But yes, most of these type of designs were started by Dean and then refined by others. Its the natural evolution of things. Same happens to most other aircraft designs and other technologies. It was inspired by Dean's design but not copied from.
@@jimraeder9419 Thanks for your feedback. Once you see the plane you will realise that it is not even close the either the KF or the Avid. But yes, most of these type of designs were started by Dean and then refined by others. Its the natural evolution of things. Same happens to most other aircraft designs and other technologies.
I'd suggest not saying an iPhone and use the term smart device or smart phones
Thanks, Sully. An iPhone is just what came to mind. It will work with any USB or USB-C powered device.
🤦♂️
Glad we got that out of the way sully
@@ben3989 😂
Another Kitfox clone
Similar aircraft. With many differences! Keep in mind, KFA has 2 other types of planes. The (bigger) Safari is in a class of its own.
@@tylerdowdy2873 Doesn't matter. The fact they look so close that I'll always have to take a second look, means that it will forever be seen that way. You're just going to have to get used to it. I have no issue with copies, just don't get upset when people call a copy a copy.
@@SoloRenegade not upset at all! I welcome the comparison.
I also look forward to representing a great product with even better service (and turning some heads 😉).
Hope to see you at some shows!