I have owned an early 2000's Japan made and it was a great instrument. The neck was thiner and faster than most Jazzbasses. I loved everything about it.
I don't have regrets about my MIM Geddy Lee. I bought few months ago in a sale for USD1200 with an Eden EC210 included. I love the sound and hum canceling with the two pickups all the way up works very good. I have to say I tried another two MIM Geddy Lee in the same store and doesn't like me at all. I think the problem with MIM instruments is the lack of consistency. If you are lucky, you get a great instrument. Great and honest review LowEndLobster!
Got mine CIJ model in 2007 for $799.99 USD. Or was it $699.99? So it's a 2006 model? Have to check. But yeah, inflation! Mine does have a genuine Badass II. And the thin neck profile which is nice, but doesn't hold well. And to adjust it you need to take the neck off.
Hey Lobster! I'm here because I'm on vacation with family and a local pawn shop has this exact MIM model on the wall...for $850 used. While everybody was knick-knack shopping up and down the touristy sidewalk portion of town, I plugged it in and had like 20 minutes with it before the shop closed. My exact thoughts were in line with what I just saw in your video, "I'll bet a Sire V5 is just as good, if not better," but I still had way more fun jamming with that than going through a third t-shirt store...
@@LowEndLobster yea it was a dream bass of mine, couldn't pass it up. Just played a gig with it last night, sounds perfect on a Darkglass microtubes with new strings and a pick, one of the best punk/hardcore basses out there
Wow, I guess I really lucked out with my MIM Ged. I got mine used for $750, and it was pretty noisy when it came to me. It does, however, weigh 9 lb 2 oz and play like a dream. I shielded the cavities and put in a set of Tom Brantleys and now it's pretty much a perfect 70s Jazz.
Pickup noise suggests that both pickups do not create hum cancelling by the original method of one being reverse polarity/ reverse wound. Just wondering if both pickups on this bass are identical (to save money while still cashing in on the name)
Great question Martin! I don't think the hum with both pickups on is the same 'type' as when a pickup is soloed. That being said, I might do another 'fix' vid featuring this bass
I had the MIJ version somewhere around 15 years ago. Should have kept it but really wasn't thrilled with it at the time. Ain't hindsight grand? Thanks Lobster!🦞
So...Mine was maded in Japan and... I managed to buy some different pickguards, among them, a pearlescent like Geddy's. In mine, the former owner left it ready to receive an active circuit. The pickups came from Seymour Duncan / Basslines. The neck is animal, super comfortable. I was extremely happy with this review. Thank you, Mr. Lobster!
Dig all of your reviews, Lobster! I have two Geddy's...a MIJ with EMG's, and a CIJ (crafted in Japan) with SD Basslines. Both necks are setup with very little relief, and string height set around 1/64. I can run up the neck on both basses with barely any fret buzz...they're both killer basses! Keep up the good work! 👊🏾✌🏾 I also have a G&L (Fullerton) Jazz Bass that's an absolute brut!...I think you would dig it!
I really love your reviews and I’ve learned to truly trust your opinion as true relatable opinion. I’ve been saying that about the Fender Brand ever since newer brands have been outdoing them in quality and value. You just confirmed me opinion about new Fenders and the same with Gibsons. Thanks Lobster👍🏽
Hey Low. I own & will be reviewing the MIM Geddy bass on my channel. Mine is a 2020 model. I cannot agree with your review here. First, what one is getting here is a 1972 spec instrument. Alder body, vintage pickup spacing plus the pickups are American factory Pure Vintage. The headstock is slightly larger than the current standard. What one gets when buying one of these is a vintage reissue with an upgraded bridge & a Geddy autograph. Mine weighs in at just over 9 pounds which is the standard for these. I don't know how you ended up with with an 11 pounder. Mine does not have a noise issue with both pups set at equal volumes. Mine has a beautiful fit & finish. The frets are dressed nice with a perfectly bound & clear coated neck & body. The bass sounds & plays incredibly. Lastly, anyone who is looking at one of these Signature basses is not going to be interested in a Sire or any other brand or model. They are looking at a Geddy Lee Signature Jazz Bass for a reason. One thing I will agree with is the inconsistency in workmanship & quality control coming out of the Mexican factory lately. I have seen it over the past year or so getting really bad so I can see how you could end up with a noisy, poorly finished instrument but to be fair, I have seen some of these same issues coming out of the California factory too & I don't even want to get started on Gibson's workmanship & QC issues. Anyhoo, keep on rockin. Love your channel! PEACE!
Or just go with a MIJ to possibly get a more consistent bass. Also you are wrong as the Sire seems like a good deal and this is someone who is studying a GL bass. 👍🏻
Well done sir! I reviewed the Indonesian model for Bass Guitar Magazine, here in the UK, back in 2017 and that was an outstanding instrument for the money...it left some seriously expensive Jazzes hanging on the wall in its tracks, it was so good. I should have bought it but other priorities, bass purchase-wise, meant it didn't come home with me. Another great video....more please!
The jackson ric bass was Indonesian made too, and I love it. Seems like quality product coming from there last few years, seems to be very reminiscent in quality to Korean made
I have the USA Geddy. It's my number one. However if anyone is going to go the route I did, be warned that the necks are different on the USA model vs. the MIJ or MIM models. The USA has a thicker neck and until I had a pro setup, I was very close to returning it. After the setup, it became the best bass I have ever played.
Thanks Ronald! Hoping to check out the MIJ and MIA examples in the near future. I hear the MIA necks are quite different as you said. Very interested to see how they compare! I'm holding onto my MIM until I can do that video
I tried a Geddy Lee model in person once many years ago. I wasn’t crazy about it's sound or setup (which I know is partly because display setups are not great to start with), but I loved how the neck felt. A few years later, I ended up getting a Classic 70's Jazz Bass instead. I put a Fender High Mass Bridge and Seymour Duncan SJB-1 pickups on it and it has all the traits of the Geddy Lee model that I liked.
Hey low end lobster, I was thinking about buying that bass. Your review made a lot of sense. It cost more than my 5 string Sire V5. I’m glad I saw your video. PEACE!
I have one of those. I got it a few months ago after waiting quite some time for Sweetwater to get one in stock. I absolutely love it. It has two neck features that I generally prefer to avoid: gloss finish on the back and a U-shaped profile. However, as with my Tony Franklin signature fretless Precision I find the gloss rather than satin doesn’t bother me, and the U-shaped profile is actually extremely comfortable on a Jazz Bass, even with my small hands. The pickups sound great and overall it’s my favorite Jazz Bass of the several I’ve had. I love the finish and the matching headstock, which I wish Fender would do much more. I hate pickup and bridge covers so I took those off. I would have left the finger rest in place, but I usually change the pickguards so it came off when I put a silver paisley pickguard on it. Is it overpriced at a little over $2k? Yeah, probably. Do I care? Nope. Toying with the idea of buying another one and defretting it.
Could you do a review on the Ibanez SR306? I'm curious how they are for being in the $400~ range and I'm thinking about getting one. There aren't many reviews on them.
My 2013 MIM Geddy Lee has a BadAss II bridge. The pickups sound great. I’ve never noticed the weight much. The truss rod adjustment is a relatively minor inconvenience. My only complaint is the circular route.
@@LowEndLobster Yes, and it seems like quality has suffered - or maybe the quality control. I only get a little 60 cycle hum when I solo the pickups. I do like the look and sound of Sires, though, and the only reason I bought my Fender instead of a Sire was I could get it right away. (Also, Sire doesn’t ship to Canadian addresses, and the sole (official) Canadian dealer is about 3,500 km away.)
I traded a 1998 Rick 4003 for a 2005 Geddy Jazz back in 2005 and never looked back. I have only adjusted the truss once and I put some EMG X pickups in it, but this thing is a beast and always sounds amazing. It was my main goto bass until I saw your review for the Spector Eurobolt.
I took your advice, just bought the new sire v5 rosewood fingerboard bass from Thomann’s. Love it to death, great bass and it’s a steal right now with the dollar so strong vs the euro.
The pickup spacing on the Geddy bass is the 70's era spacing, which measures 4" center to center. The 60's era and current pickup spacing is 3.6" center to center. That spacing puts the bridge pickup closer to the bridge which gives it a brighter sound than the 3.6" spacing. it also growls more easily my '65 Jazz did, just by digging into the strings a bit over the bridge pickup.
I bought a GL Jazz back in 2004 and immediately put Bartolini PU's on it because of the hum. It plays like butter except for the terrible G string 5th fret dead spot. The build quality is outstanding. The MIM version is literally substandard.
As a guy who builds in my old age gotta ask, Did you ever get to the bottom of the dead spot? If so, what was the culprit and fix? (Off the top of my head, I would say you got an uncool fret)
I had two Geddy Lee Jazz Bass in my life and if I remember correctly the first one was made in Japan and several years later one made in Mexico and there was some difference in the quality between the one made in Japan versus made in Mexico, the neck felt great on both though but I think it was kind of difficult to keep those basses in tune. Thanks for your demo and review LowEndLobster!!!
The best advice I have is to search Reverb or eBay if you can for a slightly used version if you want the Geddy MIM. I was fortunate to find a MIJ one that was gently used for $700 a few years ago. It’s my favorite bass. Save the money and don’t buy the MIM Geddy brand new. I have to agree with that V5 too. I don’t need another Jazz Bass (for now), but you have great logic there!
Completely agree with you on MIJ vs. MIM quality, Lobster. Almost every MIJ instrument has amazing craftsmanship. I'm not into Jazz Basses but if I were to choose one I'd go for the Geddy Lee, for sure. Great video!
Kinda sad it wasn't a winner for you. I got the exact bass as a wedding gift from my wife. I threw in an Audere 4 band control plate and it made a huge improvement.
A very honest video I found this channel just at the right time as I was considering one, but noisy electrics, & with a crazy weight, rough finish, cheap hard ware, no way !!! this is my plan what do you think?a 1972 (today's model) maybe polish the fret edges if needed, a Tom Bentley set Greedy pick- ups, a hip shot or high mass bridge, hip shot tuners and a set of hi grade aircraft grade pots(which are not expensive) then you should have a great instrument!🎸
I've played both and own a Vintera 70s and can confirm it is the superior bass. I have an aged white pearl pickguard on an aged natural finish and it looks stunning. The nail in the coffin is that the Vintera gets American revoiced 70s pickups. Sound is growly and huge.
I got a bad one too. The frets are uneven, the electronics are poorly shielded and noisy, it has pretty bad dead spots, the pickups sound weak and are low output (even though they are high), the sponge underneath the pickups is stuck, the knobs are not connected properly and malfunction. I can tell yours sounds a lot better than mine too. I was very stupid for not having noticed any of this when I bought it because I got it second hand in a hurry but man am I disappointed. I do really like the sound of a geddy lee so I hope to sell this one and get a good one some day.
I sold my MiM jazz because of Cnc machine hole under pickguard and bought the superior Japanese Jazz ,Thanks Mr. Lobster ,! The world wants to hear the lobster hand !! Please
Never really been a Rush fan or Getty Lee but Sire is killing the bass game all the way around no way I would pay money like anymore for any Fender to be honest not when you can get better for less, Lobster thanks for keeping it 💯
Thanks Lobster! You nailed it once again with this review. I agree on all your points of contention with Fender. Personally I think they are way to big for their britches these days. Too many bean counters in product development IMO. I could buy a Sire V5 and take my wife out to dinner every night for a week straight with what I would pay for this MIM offering. Cheers for now!
Great review. The MIM signature basses seem lacking in my experience too. Too high of a premium for not much extra feature wise, and in many cases sloppy build quality. I really need to check out the Sire basses.
I think there were some real concerns about twisting or bending necks on these? May pick up a US version. I really like the Player Series, but some other made in mexico basses from fender seem a little over priced. 11 pounds is hefty. Is it ash? That seems way out there for alder.
Thanks Mark! Indeed, there were definitely some cases though I don't think we have any real data as to the severity of the neck twist issue (and I doubt Fender would ever share that info lol). Specs say alder, my back says it's lead ;P
Absolutely! I'll probably do a separate video on that. First I'll compare as is to the MIA and MIJ models (got someone willing to let me borrow an example of each for a video!).
Hey lobster question for you brother! You said that if you dig that aggressive tone you can get it elsewhere for cheaper? What suggestions would you have for cheaper options? Thanks in advance brother!
It's probably a pickup thing, but I definitely noticed a lot more midrange definition on the Geddy vs the Sire. I just found a used CIJ Geddy for $600 and threw some Brantley's in it. Total monster to play! I do fully agree though that the price the MIM model is going for nowadays is a bit on the ridiculous side. Fender really jumped the prices up on everything in the last couple years. I've been researching how to build up another 70's pickup spacing jazz centered around a Geddy MIM neck without breaking the bank and it starts to add up real quick.
Thank you and great comment. You're completely correct. There's definitely a difference in the tone between Sire and Geddy, but just like you said - a set of Brantley's will probably make all the difference here. I should have kept the V5 and done that, but alas I can just get another one. Unrelated note, that's one of the things I love about the V5 is that it's inexpensive enough where I don't have to worry about actually using the bass and bringing it around. Basses like Pinky, my BFR Stingray don't leave the house lol
@@LowEndLobster The V5 exhibited the more scooped tone that I don't always care for that is usually found in the 60's spacing, which is kind of surprising even when I've listened to a lot of other 70's setup basses that tend to sound more like the Geddy. Not a dang thing wrong with Sire's though! Hard to beat for the price with quality components all around. The only thing a little more difficult is some aftermarket parts compatibility, but when the parts are already a good quality there is less of a reason to start swapping.
I had 2 of those basses. Japan models.. I Couldn't get used to the neck. I always ended up with hand cramps. I have an American version now. Total satisfaction. Sound, feel , and craftsmanship are just so much better.
So: 11lbs, inaccessible truss rod, rough around the edges finish and noisy pickups? No, no, and no. Fender UP YOUR GAME. Great honest review. Respect Sir!
I have a a MIJ from 2007/2008. It's a very good bass but I'm planning to sell it as I now play exclusively metal. Can't believe the price difference between the MIJ and this MIM, especially for such a lower build quality.
Hey Lobster. Great review as always. I have an opportunity to acquire a 2006 MIJ version. In your experience are these mid 2000's versions a good version of this instrument ?
I tried this MIM bass and didn’t really care for it at all. I ended up getting a 92 MIJ 62 reissue Jazz for much less. It sounds wonderful stock, no mods needed.
Hey Lobbie!👋🏿 Well, Thank You Again!🙏🏿 As a huge Geddy Lee fan, I've coveted one of these on principle!🤗 But, with the things you pointed out,(truss adjustment under the pickguard)??🤦 Wow!😳..🤣🤣! I think I'll find a jazzer'( definitely w/block inlays!), & upgrade the pickups!👍🏿 Ya got a link for the PUPS you mentioned?🤔 Take Care!😺
Thanks for the review. I appreciate the honesty and transparency. There is no way I would every pay 1100 for that bass. It sounds ok, but the issues with shielding, routing, and the truss rod are all problematic. Good work as always Lobster.
I had a MIJ version for years but the neck moved every single time it rained it seemed. With the truss rod adjustment placement it was nightmare to adjust all the time. I do miss it though and seriously considering the US version but they are quite expensive.
I recently got MIM Mustang Bass, I'm very disappointed with it's quality, it's probably first and last Fender i'll be buying. Hell my SBMM Ray4, I paid 320 euros for, is three classes above it. And yeah for reference Mustang was 630 euros and waited 5 months for it.
Wow!😳 That's a shame!🤦 5 months wait!!😳& it was flawed?😠 No Excuse!👎🏿 Not good when Squire is better quality. Honestly, I don't think Geddy would sign off on this!👎🏿
Bummer Noise Lab! Yeah man, the MIM QC is all over the place. Some people get gems, other people get lumps of coal. Fender needs to up their consistency game!
Was gonna get the MIM version but now I might go for the USA version. It's almost twice the price, but if it means better quality and a better instrument overall it's worth it. Wish they continued making the MIJ version at a lower cost.
What about the made in America Geddy Lee? I got my eyes on that thing and I am trying to find a jazz bass similar that's lower and for me to mod it to those specs. I already got the Sansamp 2112 pedal.
Great question! I haven't tried one yet but am hoping to in the near future. Someone reached out who had the CIJ and MIA ones that they were willing to lend me.
I own this exact bass, 2019 MIM GL. Have to agree about build quality. I had to have the fret edges filed down and had a bevel cut for truss rod access. Also couldn't get the pickguard back on after removing, had to file that down to fit right. I LOVE the sound but I usually play a 5 string. Is there any 5 string bass that can give me the exact same sound?
P.S. I also changed out the stock Pick Ups. For Tom Brantley/Geddy Lee Pick Ups and had the nut replaced with a Graphtech nut. And it plays and sounds awesome.
Someone mentioned that the MIM Geddy Lee basses have identical pickups, like both are neck pickups. I just checked mine and my neck is south and my bridge is north.
Yeah Lobster , Fender signature basses are a cash money grab, I've only got a CIJ Sting bass which I like. When I was thinking about the Geddy j bass I came to the same conclusion . I bought my first V7. The sire basses also have that nice rounded edge on the fingerboard , no circle rout under the pickguard. I'm a big Rush fan , Geddy is one of my biggest influences but I took a pass on the bass . Someday I'd like to take a look at the American Geddy bass but they are getting close to $2k - for a standard Jazz bass.
Yea my MIM jazz has that round hole under the pick guard as well.. 11lbs!?!? Wow!! For a 4 string passive bass. Geez!! Music man has the best truss rod adjustment ever!
Thanks ET! That sounds awesome! I actually used to have a 97 MIA Jazz in highschool with a maple neck and the beautiful green/teal paint job. Miss that bass!
@@LowEndLobster I once had an all original 1966 Fender P, was stolen, was insured, insurance paid, would much rather have the bass back. Replaced it with a Fender 57 P reissue. Sounds pretty close to the 66 P.
In 2005 I bought a 2nd Generation Geddy Lee Japan model Jazz Bass. After having it set up by Grass Hopper. Geddys Tech in 1981. Who works for Bass Central in Florida. The bass Played much better. Like Butter. But the USA Model plays a little better. And is built better to.
That's a great question. I haven't played those models and don't now the specific difference between them. However you can't go wrong with MIJ craftsmanship
Good review. One important thing you forgot to mention is the pickup spacing. Since it is based off of a ‘72 Jazz, the bridge pickup is a bit closer to the bridge then a standard Jazz. Thus slightly different tone. Also point on quality, unlike the Japanese ones, the block inlays on the MIM are fake. Not real inlays like on the Japanese versions. They made have changed that, but when they first started making the MIM version they were definitely fake.
Thank you Kenneth! I was going to mention the inlays but couldn't find anything definitive. It appears they've flip flopped a few times between real and fake
@@LowEndLobster Talking about pickups, I put in my ‘72 Jazz (the real deal!) a set of the vintage noiseless Nordstrand pickups. They sound awesome! And no noise! I love his pickups. I have a set of his in my P-Bass as well.
Honestly, not a fan of either. I think Squier CVs suffer from similar problems but at a much lower price point (and the problems that I've seen in the Squiers reflect the lower price point as well).
Unfortunately it seems as fender has settled for producing a bass that “looks like “ a Geddy Lee, rather than one that actually is like a Geddy... I owned a Japan version back in the day and it’s was quite a tone monster. The pickups are definitely not the same. It’s just a black Jazz bass at this point ( with a premium price tag )
Agreed! I'm very excited for the chance to try a MIJ and MIA and compare it to this. I'm holding onto the MIM specifically for the comparison, then out the airlock... I mean onto Reverb ;P
I have of these basses and really don't recognise the Lobster's descrition at all. Impeccably finished with no edges, zero hum, a totally different experience. Sounds like Fender's fanously variable QC is at it again.
I have owned an early 2000's Japan made and it was a great instrument. The neck was thiner and faster than most Jazzbasses. I loved everything about it.
Thanks De Castro!
I don't have regrets about my MIM Geddy Lee. I bought few months ago in a sale for USD1200 with an Eden EC210 included. I love the sound and hum canceling with the two pickups all the way up works very good. I have to say I tried another two MIM Geddy Lee in the same store and doesn't like me at all. I think the problem with MIM instruments is the lack of consistency. If you are lucky, you get a great instrument. Great and honest review LowEndLobster!
Thanks Oliver! Great comment! Indeed the inconsistency of MIM instruments is legendary.
I have the same problem with my Geddy Lee MIM.Sounds very bad. If I had the same sound as Lobster, I'd be very happy. 😕
Been waiting for this one. Collective sigh from the MIJ owners. LOL. Great video. Thanks Lobster!
The fact that this bass used to be made in Japan and priced at $800 says a lot about the current economy.
Aye
Paid $630 in 2001
Got mine CIJ model in 2007 for $799.99 USD. Or was it $699.99? So it's a 2006 model? Have to check. But yeah, inflation!
Mine does have a genuine Badass II. And the thin neck profile which is nice, but doesn't hold well. And to adjust it you need to take the neck off.
@@bassw1758 That's about the same value
Fender needs to do better. I am glad companies like Sire are competing, making it better for the consumer. Thanks for this video.
Japanese fenders and sire for the win 🤟
imagine spending 1.1k, plugging your bass in and hearing a bunch of buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Would feel bad man!
G&L has been schooling brands on how to do a real Fender since the 80s.
Don't forget harley benton!
It's so refreshing to see an honest review of a bass; not over done one way or the other-- Rock on Lobster!
Thank you Monahan :)
Hey Lobster! I'm here because I'm on vacation with family and a local pawn shop has this exact MIM model on the wall...for $850 used. While everybody was knick-knack shopping up and down the touristy sidewalk portion of town, I plugged it in and had like 20 minutes with it before the shop closed. My exact thoughts were in line with what I just saw in your video, "I'll bet a Sire V5 is just as good, if not better," but I still had way more fun jamming with that than going through a third t-shirt store...
I have a CIJ Geddy and it really is something else. Fit and finish is fantastic.
Thanks John! Hoping to check one out myself :)
My MIM Geddy still has the thin neck, popped in some Seymour Duncan pickups, sounds amazing, picked up for $300 on Facebook marketplace
Wow! You got quite the deal! Congrats
@@LowEndLobster yea it was a dream bass of mine, couldn't pass it up. Just played a gig with it last night, sounds perfect on a Darkglass microtubes with new strings and a pick, one of the best punk/hardcore basses out there
Thanks for the honest review. Cheers
Thanks Constantine!
Wow, I guess I really lucked out with my MIM Ged. I got mine used for $750, and it was pretty noisy when it came to me. It does, however, weigh 9 lb 2 oz and play like a dream. I shielded the cavities and put in a set of Tom Brantleys and now it's pretty much a perfect 70s Jazz.
Hell yeah Josh! Your Ged sounds awesome :)
The Tom Brantleys are just unbelievable for the money. Such a massive tonal difference and the price is unreal!
Pickup noise suggests that both pickups do not create hum cancelling by the original method of one being reverse polarity/ reverse wound. Just wondering if both pickups on this bass are identical (to save money while still cashing in on the name)
Usually in Mexico they’re both neck pickups. So your hypothesis is pretty on the nose
@@zackarysmith2222 It's easy to check using a magnet to see if one pickup repels while the other attracts
Great question Martin! I don't think the hum with both pickups on is the same 'type' as when a pickup is soloed. That being said, I might do another 'fix' vid featuring this bass
For 1,100.00 it better not just be a great bass but also make me coffee, no cream 1 sugar. Thank you, Lobster man. Always great and honest reviews!
Thank you Mr. Anderson! I'm still waiting on this bass to deliver the coffee haha
For that money, get a bite: bite.guitars
I appreciate the honest review!
Thanks Zach!
I had the MIJ version somewhere around 15 years ago. Should have kept it but really wasn't thrilled with it at the time. Ain't hindsight grand? Thanks Lobster!🦞
I know the feels, man... I know the feels
So...Mine was maded in Japan and...
I managed to buy some different pickguards, among them, a pearlescent like Geddy's. In mine, the former owner left it ready to receive an active circuit. The pickups came from Seymour Duncan / Basslines. The neck is animal, super comfortable.
I was extremely happy with this review. Thank you, Mr. Lobster!
Thank you Ricardo! Your MIJ sounds killer :)
Lobster living the life and i am happy for you man.
Thanks JMP
Dude...I love your show🤗. Also, your cat makes itself forefront of the attention,...just like my Max Kittie😆
Cool I’ve been wondering about these
Thanks Mike!
Dig all of your reviews, Lobster! I have two Geddy's...a MIJ with EMG's, and a CIJ (crafted in Japan) with SD Basslines. Both necks are setup with very little relief, and string height set around 1/64. I can run up the neck on both basses with barely any fret buzz...they're both killer basses! Keep up the good work! 👊🏾✌🏾
I also have a G&L (Fullerton) Jazz Bass that's an absolute brut!...I think you would dig it!
Thanks Keefer!
I really love your reviews and I’ve learned to truly trust your opinion as true relatable opinion.
I’ve been saying that about the Fender Brand ever since newer brands have been outdoing them in quality and value.
You just confirmed me opinion about new Fenders and the same with Gibsons.
Thanks Lobster👍🏽
Thanks Sumbi Sumbi :)
Hey Low. I own & will be reviewing the MIM Geddy bass on my channel. Mine is a 2020 model. I cannot agree with your review here. First, what one is getting here is a 1972 spec instrument. Alder body, vintage pickup spacing plus the pickups are American factory Pure Vintage. The headstock is slightly larger than the current standard. What one gets when buying one of these is a vintage reissue with an upgraded bridge & a Geddy autograph. Mine weighs in at just over 9 pounds which is the standard for these. I don't know how you ended up with with an 11 pounder. Mine does not have a noise issue with both pups set at equal volumes. Mine has a beautiful fit & finish. The frets are dressed nice with a perfectly bound & clear coated neck & body. The bass sounds & plays incredibly. Lastly, anyone who is looking at one of these Signature basses is not going to be interested in a Sire or any other brand or model. They are looking at a Geddy Lee Signature Jazz Bass for a reason. One thing I will agree with is the inconsistency in workmanship & quality control coming out of the Mexican factory lately. I have seen it over the past year or so getting really bad so I can see how you could end up with a noisy, poorly finished instrument but to be fair, I have seen some of these same issues coming out of the California factory too & I don't even want to get started on Gibson's workmanship & QC issues. Anyhoo, keep on rockin. Love your channel! PEACE!
Or just go with a MIJ to possibly get a more consistent bass. Also you are wrong as the Sire seems like a good deal and this is someone who is studying a GL bass. 👍🏻
Well done sir! I reviewed the Indonesian model for Bass Guitar Magazine, here in the UK, back in 2017 and that was an outstanding instrument for the money...it left some seriously expensive Jazzes hanging on the wall in its tracks, it was so good. I should have bought it but other priorities, bass purchase-wise, meant it didn't come home with me. Another great video....more please!
Thanks Brooksy! :)
The jackson ric bass was Indonesian made too, and I love it. Seems like quality product coming from there last few years, seems to be very reminiscent in quality to Korean made
I have the USA Geddy. It's my number one. However if anyone is going to go the route I did, be warned that the necks are different on the USA model vs. the MIJ or MIM models. The USA has a thicker neck and until I had a pro setup, I was very close to returning it. After the setup, it became the best bass I have ever played.
Thanks Ronald! Hoping to check out the MIJ and MIA examples in the near future. I hear the MIA necks are quite different as you said. Very interested to see how they compare! I'm holding onto my MIM until I can do that video
Good to know!
The main reason I’m thinking about a Geddy is specifically for that thinner neck.
I tried a Geddy Lee model in person once many years ago. I wasn’t crazy about it's sound or setup (which I know is partly because display setups are not great to start with), but I loved how the neck felt.
A few years later, I ended up getting a Classic 70's Jazz Bass instead. I put a Fender High Mass Bridge and Seymour Duncan SJB-1 pickups on it and it has all the traits of the Geddy Lee model that I liked.
Hey low end lobster, I was thinking about buying that bass. Your review made a lot of sense. It cost more than my 5 string Sire V5. I’m glad I saw your video. PEACE!
Thanks Andre! Glad you found the video helpful :)
There’s this bass I have an eye on: The Fender 60th Anniversary Jazz Bass with the Stacked Knobs, would be cool if you would review one!
Thanks Mats! Those are neat! I hope to review one at some point :)
I have one of those. I got it a few months ago after waiting quite some time for Sweetwater to get one in stock. I absolutely love it. It has two neck features that I generally prefer to avoid: gloss finish on the back and a U-shaped profile. However, as with my Tony Franklin signature fretless Precision I find the gloss rather than satin doesn’t bother me, and the U-shaped profile is actually extremely comfortable on a Jazz Bass, even with my small hands. The pickups sound great and overall it’s my favorite Jazz Bass of the several I’ve had. I love the finish and the matching headstock, which I wish Fender would do much more. I hate pickup and bridge covers so I took those off. I would have left the finger rest in place, but I usually change the pickguards so it came off when I put a silver paisley pickguard on it. Is it overpriced at a little over $2k? Yeah, probably. Do I care? Nope. Toying with the idea of buying another one and defretting it.
Could you do a review on the Ibanez SR306? I'm curious how they are for being in the $400~ range and I'm thinking about getting one. There aren't many reviews on them.
Thanks Mitchell! I probably won't do the 306 as I already looked at the 300, but I'll do my best to look at another budget Ibanez 6'er :)
I have one from Japan and love it! I put a set of EMG Jazz pickups and a BTC control. Nothing like it! Sounds and plays incredible!
Mine has the Limited Edition neck plate.
Thanks Gary! Yours sounds killer! We'll be doing an EMG Jazz very soon :)
My 2013 MIM Geddy Lee has a BadAss II bridge. The pickups sound great. I’ve never noticed the weight much. The truss rod adjustment is a relatively minor inconvenience. My only complaint is the circular route.
Thanks Mark! That's really interesting. It seems that the components may have evolved slightly over the past 8 years.
@@LowEndLobster Yes, and it seems like quality has suffered - or maybe the quality control. I only get a little 60 cycle hum when I solo the pickups. I do like the look and sound of Sires, though, and the only reason I bought my Fender instead of a Sire was I could get it right away. (Also, Sire doesn’t ship to Canadian addresses, and the sole (official) Canadian dealer is about 3,500 km away.)
I traded a 1998 Rick 4003 for a 2005 Geddy Jazz back in 2005 and never looked back. I have only adjusted the truss once and I put some EMG X pickups in it, but this thing is a beast and always sounds amazing. It was my main goto bass until I saw your review for the Spector Eurobolt.
Thanks Chazz! Those basses sound killer!
Damn I've been looking at these for a while at my local guitar store. Surprised this blew up so soon!
Thanks Akmal!
I took your advice, just bought the new sire v5 rosewood fingerboard bass from Thomann’s. Love it to death, great bass and it’s a steal right now with the dollar so strong vs the euro.
Congrats!
The pickup spacing on the Geddy bass is the 70's era spacing, which measures 4" center to center. The 60's era and current pickup spacing is 3.6" center to center. That spacing puts the bridge pickup closer to the bridge which gives it a brighter sound than the 3.6" spacing. it also growls more easily my '65 Jazz did, just by digging into the strings a bit over the bridge pickup.
I bought a GL Jazz back in 2004 and immediately put Bartolini PU's on it because of the hum. It plays like butter except for the terrible G string 5th fret dead spot. The build quality is outstanding. The MIM version is literally substandard.
As a guy who builds in my old age gotta ask,
Did you ever get to the bottom of the dead spot?
If so, what was the culprit and fix?
(Off the top of my head, I would say you got an uncool fret)
I had two Geddy Lee Jazz Bass in my life and if I remember correctly the first one was made in Japan and several years later one made in Mexico and there was some difference in the quality between the one made in Japan versus made in Mexico, the neck felt great on both though but I think it was kind of difficult to keep those basses in tune. Thanks for your demo and review LowEndLobster!!!
Thanks Guy!
I've heard it was around 2012 this model went to MIM
I would love to see your take on the new Fender American pro ii jazz bass.
Good suggestion! American performer series would be my suggestion!
Thanks Nick! Great suggestion. I have a P review coming from the Am Pro II series sometime in August :)
@@LowEndLobster very nice 👌🏻
Excellent review Lobster 👍🦞🦞
Thanks Paul!
The best advice I have is to search Reverb or eBay if you can for a slightly used version if you want the Geddy MIM. I was fortunate to find a MIJ one that was gently used for $700 a few years ago. It’s my favorite bass. Save the money and don’t buy the MIM Geddy brand new.
I have to agree with that V5 too. I don’t need another Jazz Bass (for now), but you have great logic there!
Thanks Joe!
Completely agree with you on MIJ vs. MIM quality, Lobster. Almost every MIJ instrument has amazing craftsmanship. I'm not into Jazz Basses but if I were to choose one I'd go for the Geddy Lee, for sure. Great video!
Thanks Nano!
Hi, thanks for the video! What do you think about the Fender Player Plus P-Bass? It's kind of in the same price range as this one.
Kinda sad it wasn't a winner for you. I got the exact bass as a wedding gift from my wife. I threw in an Audere 4 band control plate and it made a huge improvement.
Thanks Fidel! We'll hopefully be checking out MIA and MIJ examples in the near future :)
@@LowEndLobster if only you could get one of those custom shops from the clockwork angels era!!
A very honest video I found this channel just at the right time as I was considering one, but noisy electrics, & with a crazy weight, rough finish, cheap hard ware, no way !!! this is my plan what do you think?a 1972 (today's model) maybe polish the fret edges if needed, a Tom Bentley set Greedy pick- ups, a hip shot or high mass bridge, hip shot tuners and a set of hi grade aircraft grade pots(which are not expensive) then you should have a great instrument!🎸
Thanks for the review. It's a pity it doesn't respect its name.
Have you tried the VinteraJazz70s? Maybe it could be better at a cheaper price.
Thanks Luigi! Definitely looking to check out the Vintera series at some point
I've played both and own a Vintera 70s and can confirm it is the superior bass. I have an aged white pearl pickguard on an aged natural finish and it looks stunning. The nail in the coffin is that the Vintera gets American revoiced 70s pickups. Sound is growly and huge.
I got a bad one too. The frets are uneven, the electronics are poorly shielded and noisy, it has pretty bad dead spots, the pickups sound weak and are low output (even though they are high), the sponge underneath the pickups is stuck, the knobs are not connected properly and malfunction. I can tell yours sounds a lot better than mine too. I was very stupid for not having noticed any of this when I bought it because I got it second hand in a hurry but man am I disappointed. I do really like the sound of a geddy lee so I hope to sell this one and get a good one some day.
Thanks for the honest review as always. Every time I hear you play bridge pickup on a jazz style I keep waiting for Jaco's The Chicken, lol.
Thanks Bevin! That was my favorite song to play in high school jazz band!
I sold my MiM jazz because of Cnc machine hole under pickguard and bought the superior Japanese Jazz ,Thanks Mr. Lobster ,! The world wants to hear the lobster hand !! Please
Great review! While on the topic of Fender MIM signature basses, any plans to review Steve Harris and Nate Mendel P-basses?
Thanks Danny! Yes, I definitely hope on checking out the Harris and Fanklin P's at least :)
Never really been a Rush fan or Getty Lee but Sire is killing the bass game all the way around no way I would pay money like anymore for any Fender to be honest not when you can get better for less, Lobster thanks for keeping it 💯
Thanks Sid!
Thanks Lobster! You nailed it once again with this review. I agree on all your points of contention with Fender. Personally I think they are way to big for their britches these days. Too many bean counters in product development IMO. I could buy a Sire V5 and take my wife out to dinner every night for a week straight with what I would pay for this MIM offering. Cheers for now!
Thanks Chris! Yeah man, the prices are nuts. I'm glad Sire is offering a bass with comparable specs for less.
Great review. The MIM signature basses seem lacking in my experience too. Too high of a premium for not much extra feature wise, and in many cases sloppy build quality. I really need to check out the Sire basses.
Thanks K!
Another excellent honest and informative review! Thanks.
Thanks Russell!
I think there were some real concerns about twisting or bending necks on these? May pick up a US version. I really like the Player Series, but some other made in mexico basses from fender seem a little over priced. 11 pounds is hefty. Is it ash? That seems way out there for alder.
Thanks Mark! Indeed, there were definitely some cases though I don't think we have any real data as to the severity of the neck twist issue (and I doubt Fender would ever share that info lol). Specs say alder, my back says it's lead ;P
Nailed the 2 claws ! I try to guess the lobster rating before the end of the videos
Woooo! Thank you my friend! I always appreciate your comments :)
Great insight into Pros & Cons. Thnx again LEL
Thank you Glenn :)
Do you think you could do some shielding/grounding and get this sounding quieter?
Absolutely! I'll probably do a separate video on that. First I'll compare as is to the MIA and MIJ models (got someone willing to let me borrow an example of each for a video!).
Hey lobster question for you brother! You said that if you dig that aggressive tone you can get it elsewhere for cheaper? What suggestions would you have for cheaper options? Thanks in advance brother!
Watch the rest of the video ;P
Whoops lol just watched all the way until the end!🤣nice sire! My bad bro hahahaha🤘
Hi good video , thank you i have a question for you and for the price what is better sire V5 or geddy lee jazz bass mim ?
Love my 98 cij. Very cool bass. Neck is slim and has been solid
It's probably a pickup thing, but I definitely noticed a lot more midrange definition on the Geddy vs the Sire. I just found a used CIJ Geddy for $600 and threw some Brantley's in it. Total monster to play! I do fully agree though that the price the MIM model is going for nowadays is a bit on the ridiculous side. Fender really jumped the prices up on everything in the last couple years. I've been researching how to build up another 70's pickup spacing jazz centered around a Geddy MIM neck without breaking the bank and it starts to add up real quick.
Thank you and great comment. You're completely correct. There's definitely a difference in the tone between Sire and Geddy, but just like you said - a set of Brantley's will probably make all the difference here. I should have kept the V5 and done that, but alas I can just get another one. Unrelated note, that's one of the things I love about the V5 is that it's inexpensive enough where I don't have to worry about actually using the bass and bringing it around. Basses like Pinky, my BFR Stingray don't leave the house lol
@@LowEndLobster The V5 exhibited the more scooped tone that I don't always care for that is usually found in the 60's spacing, which is kind of surprising even when I've listened to a lot of other 70's setup basses that tend to sound more like the Geddy. Not a dang thing wrong with Sire's though! Hard to beat for the price with quality components all around. The only thing a little more difficult is some aftermarket parts compatibility, but when the parts are already a good quality there is less of a reason to start swapping.
I had 2 of those basses. Japan models.. I Couldn't get used to the neck. I always ended up with hand cramps. I have an American version now. Total satisfaction. Sound, feel , and craftsmanship are just so much better.
Thanks Rich! Your MIA sounds killer! Hoping to try one soon :)
So: 11lbs, inaccessible truss rod, rough around the edges finish and noisy pickups? No, no, and no. Fender UP YOUR GAME.
Great honest review. Respect Sir!
Inflation sucks! Great video. How about a USA Geddy vid MIM Geddy?
Thanks Roadbull! Hoping to check out the MIA and MIJ models in the near future :)
I just bought a CIJ off reverb, so glad I went with that one.
I have a a MIJ from 2007/2008. It's a very good bass but I'm planning to sell it as I now play exclusively metal.
Can't believe the price difference between the MIJ and this MIM, especially for such a lower build quality.
Thanks Pier! Right!? It's nuts
Hey Lobster. Great review as always. I have an opportunity to acquire a 2006 MIJ version. In your experience are these mid 2000's versions a good version of this instrument ?
I tried this MIM bass and didn’t really care for it at all. I ended up getting a 92 MIJ 62 reissue Jazz for much less. It sounds wonderful stock, no mods needed.
Hey Lobbie!👋🏿
Well, Thank You Again!🙏🏿
As a huge Geddy Lee fan, I've coveted one of these on principle!🤗
But, with the things you pointed out,(truss adjustment under the pickguard)??🤦 Wow!😳..🤣🤣!
I think I'll find a jazzer'( definitely w/block inlays!), & upgrade the pickups!👍🏿
Ya got a link for the PUPS you mentioned?🤔
Take Care!😺
Thanks Jason! I updated the description to include a link to the pickups :)
@@LowEndLobster
My Man!🤜🏿💥🤛🏿
Thanks for the review. I appreciate the honesty and transparency. There is no way I would every pay 1100 for that bass. It sounds ok, but the issues with shielding, routing, and the truss rod are all problematic. Good work as always Lobster.
Thanks Lew!
I had a MIJ version for years but the neck moved every single time it rained it seemed. With the truss rod adjustment placement it was nightmare to adjust all the time. I do miss it though and seriously considering the US version but they are quite expensive.
Is the juice worth the squeeze? No. But an American Geddy is!!!!
TRUTH!!!
Excellent Heat reference.
XD Thanks Sono! Hoping to check out MIA and MIJ Geddys in the future :)
I recently got MIM Mustang Bass, I'm very disappointed with it's quality, it's probably first and last Fender i'll be buying. Hell my SBMM Ray4, I paid 320 euros for, is three classes above it. And yeah for reference Mustang was 630 euros and waited 5 months for it.
Wow!😳
That's a shame!🤦
5 months wait!!😳& it was flawed?😠
No Excuse!👎🏿
Not good when Squire is better quality.
Honestly, I don't think Geddy would sign off on this!👎🏿
Bummer Noise Lab! Yeah man, the MIM QC is all over the place. Some people get gems, other people get lumps of coal. Fender needs to up their consistency game!
Great honest review. I hate to say Fender is the guitar version of Harley Davidson. Charge a lot for the same old thing.
Thanks Meyers!
Was gonna get the MIM version but now I might go for the USA version. It's almost twice the price, but if it means better quality and a better instrument overall it's worth it. Wish they continued making the MIJ version at a lower cost.
Thanks Vincent! Agreed! Totally wish the MIJs were still being made.
You can still find MIJ, but I’ve only seen them for around $1100.
What about the made in America Geddy Lee? I got my eyes on that thing and I am trying to find a jazz bass similar that's lower and for me to mod it to those specs. I already got the Sansamp 2112 pedal.
Great question! I haven't tried one yet but am hoping to in the near future. Someone reached out who had the CIJ and MIA ones that they were willing to lend me.
I own this exact bass, 2019 MIM GL. Have to agree about build quality. I had to have the fret edges filed down and had a bevel cut for truss rod access. Also couldn't get the pickguard back on after removing, had to file that down to fit right. I LOVE the sound but I usually play a 5 string. Is there any 5 string bass that can give me the exact same sound?
P.S. I also changed out the stock Pick Ups. For Tom Brantley/Geddy Lee Pick Ups and had the nut replaced with a Graphtech nut. And it plays and sounds awesome.
How does this compare to a player series MIM bass? I have a MIM Mustang with no quality issues, but it’s also much less expensive!
Great question Andrew. It really depends. The staple of MIM is their inconsistency. There are amazing MIMs and absolute turds.
@@LowEndLobster sounds about right! Ive definitely noticed inconsistency between models.
What bass did you make your intro on? I love that tone
Thanks! It's my Reverend Fellowship
@@LowEndLobster Ah. That's such a sweet bass. Also, it would be fun for you to review the Thunderbird Non-Reverse.
Someone mentioned that the MIM Geddy Lee basses have identical pickups, like both are neck pickups. I just checked mine and my neck is south and my bridge is north.
That shirt made me instantly sub 🖤💜
Welcome :)
You can get a Mexi Geddy or twin Marcus, one Fretless and one fretted. What’s the better proposition? 🤓🤓🤓
Marcus all the way!
Lovely sound, lovely bass. the Rickenbacker 4003s behind you is even nicer though.
Thank you! That Ric is finicky but when it's on, it's ON!
@@LowEndLobster I've got a jetglo arriving next week, stealth version, can't wait. The only let down with Rick's are the price.
Congrats!
Hey it sounds really good though
Yeah Lobster , Fender signature basses are a cash money grab, I've only got a CIJ Sting bass which I like.
When I was thinking about the Geddy j bass I came to the same conclusion . I bought my first V7. The sire basses also have that nice rounded edge on the fingerboard , no circle rout under the pickguard.
I'm a big Rush fan , Geddy is one of my biggest influences but I took a pass on the bass . Someday I'd like to take a look at the American Geddy bass but they are getting close to $2k - for a standard Jazz bass.
Thanks Michael! Great comment. Now I'm wondering how the Brantley rewinds will sound in a Sire ;P
I'm sure it will sound good
Great review, but actually I can get Geddy's tone from my old squire jazz bass. And I payed $250 for it from a pawn shop.
Thanks Todd!
Yea my MIM jazz has that round hole under the pick guard as well.. 11lbs!?!? Wow!! For a 4 string passive bass. Geez!! Music man has the best truss rod adjustment ever!
Thanks Jeremy! Agreed! Truss wheel should be standard everywhere!
@@LowEndLobster I know!! Can’t wait for your darkray vid!! Can u make a video on you doing the mod if it’s not to late to ask?
I considered buying a Geddy Lee Signature, but I converted my Green 1997 USA Fender Jazz instead. Bass went from seldom played to often played.
Thanks ET! That sounds awesome! I actually used to have a 97 MIA Jazz in highschool with a maple neck and the beautiful green/teal paint job. Miss that bass!
@@LowEndLobster I once had an all original 1966 Fender P, was stolen, was insured, insurance paid, would much rather have the bass back. Replaced it with a Fender 57 P reissue. Sounds pretty close to the 66 P.
Hi! Love your videos!!! Can you do a video on the USA Model soon!?!?
Thanks Bassmasta! Yes, hopefully within the next few months we'll be able to look at MIJ and MIA
In 2005 I bought a 2nd Generation Geddy Lee Japan model Jazz Bass. After having it set up by Grass Hopper. Geddys Tech in 1981. Who works for Bass Central in Florida. The bass Played much better. Like Butter. But the USA Model plays a little better. And is built better to.
What you think about japan made Tradition and Heritage ,i am trying to get jazz bass and i am confused please suggest
That's a great question. I haven't played those models and don't now the specific difference between them. However you can't go wrong with MIJ craftsmanship
The best thing about this bass is the TV logo :)
Thanks Bart! Yeah I dig the old school logo on these :)
Good review. One important thing you forgot to mention is the pickup spacing. Since it is based off of a ‘72 Jazz, the bridge pickup is a bit closer to the bridge then a standard Jazz. Thus slightly different tone. Also point on quality, unlike the Japanese ones, the block inlays on the MIM are fake. Not real inlays like on the Japanese versions. They made have changed that, but when they first started making the MIM version they were definitely fake.
Thank you Kenneth! I was going to mention the inlays but couldn't find anything definitive. It appears they've flip flopped a few times between real and fake
@@LowEndLobster Talking about pickups, I put in my ‘72 Jazz (the real deal!) a set of the vintage noiseless Nordstrand pickups. They sound awesome! And no noise! I love his pickups. I have a set of his in my P-Bass as well.
Great review and Honest! I think I would buy a standard American version - probably used though, but a better option.
Indeed! Thanks Dave
Have you played a MIM Fender Steve Harris P Bass? If so, which would you prefer?
How would you compare it to the Squire classic vibe 70’s jazz bass?
Honestly, not a fan of either. I think Squier CVs suffer from similar problems but at a much lower price point (and the problems that I've seen in the Squiers reflect the lower price point as well).
Unfortunately it seems as fender has settled for producing a bass that “looks like “ a Geddy Lee, rather than one that actually is like a Geddy...
I owned a Japan version back in the day and it’s was quite a tone monster. The pickups are definitely not the same. It’s just a black Jazz bass at this point ( with a premium price tag )
Agreed! I'm very excited for the chance to try a MIJ and MIA and compare it to this. I'm holding onto the MIM specifically for the comparison, then out the airlock... I mean onto Reverb ;P
Mine has the truss Rod at bottom of the neck, major pain in the Rock Lobster
Best Regards over there
Agree with you the cheeper 1 the brown chic looks and sound much better 🙂👍
Thanks Ram!
I have of these basses and really don't recognise the Lobster's descrition at all. Impeccably finished with no edges, zero hum, a totally different experience. Sounds like Fender's fanously variable QC is at it again.
The QC really is all over the place. Thanks Richard!
Isn't the idea of QC to literally control the quality? WTF! They have one effing job to do 🤔