Ancient Celebrity Murder: Hypatia of Alexandria | Roman History | Part 1 | Extra History
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- Enjoying our series on Hypatia of Alexandria? Then why not try our sponsor Drink Trade Coffee ☕️Just visit www.drinktrade... and upgrade your morning routine with 30% off your first month!
Step back in time to the ancient city of Alexandria and Meet Hypatia, a brilliant mathematician, astronomer, teacher, and philosopher, revered across the Mediterranean for her intellect and eloquence. However, tragic events unfold when Hypatia finds herself at the mercy of a mob of monks loyal to Bishop Cyril, a political rival of the city's governor in this shocking murder that catapulted Hypatia into immortality, becoming a symbol of science, feminism, and philosophy throughout history.
* Watch Extra History ad-free & get 1-week early access on NEBULA go.nebula.tv/e...
* Suggest & Vote on our next episodes, get exclusive content & 24-hour early access on PATREON bit.ly/EHPatreon
* Show off your fandom with MERCH from our store! extracredits.st...
* Interested in sponsoring an episode?* Email us: extracredits@standard.tv
/ extracreditz | / extracredits | / extracredits | / extracreditz
GAMING: / @extracredits | / extracredits
bsky.app/profi...
Miss an episode in our Hypatia of Alexandria Series?
Part 1 - • Ancient Celebrity Murd...
Part 2 - • Hypatia of Alexandria:...
Part 3 - • Hypatia of Alexandria:...
Part 4 - Release Date:6/15
Series Wrap-up & Recommended Reading / Lies Episode - Release Date: 6/29
Thanks for the high-quality conversations & for following our community guidelines here: bit.ly/ECFansR...
Artist: Nick DeWitt | Writer: Robert Rath | Researcher: A. Siso | Showrunner & Narrator: Matthew Krol | Video Editor: Devon House Creative | Audio Editor: Clean Waves | Studio Director: Geoffry Zatkin | Social Media: Kat Rider | ♪ Music by Demetori: bit.ly/1EQA5N7 | ♪ "Extra History Theme" by Sean & Dean Kiner
#ExtraHistory #Philosophy #History
Thanks so much for watching and if you're interested in ways to help the show, why not try our sponsor Drink Trade Coffee? ☕Just visit www.drinktrade.com/extrahistory and upgrade your morning routine with 30% off your first month!
Love your content guys! These are so interesting 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@danielsantiagourtado3430 real
Was having a really bad night and morning, I was coughing the entire time. But this improved my mood by a lot! ❤️😁
I've done Trade before and I wholeheartedly endorse it. We've been ordering from Amazon for a while instead just to cut costs and have a consistent half-and-half blend of caff and decaff Tim Horton's grounds, but TBH I miss Trade. It was always fun seeing what would pop up and how it would be as a pot versus a k-cup. Do recommend.
I loved Trade Coffee, when I could drink it. About half the time the bags would arrive ruptured and leaking.
"What stars were visible during her time"
Blows my mind each time I re-realize the night sky would look different in earlier millenia
The only real historical inaccuracy in one of my fave books ( the song of Achilles) is how one of the characters mentions looking at the night sky and seeing a certain star, but that star wouldn’t appear in the until centuries later 😂
For me, what‘s even more crazy is the fact that we can recreate the night sky from past eras.
I've never lived in an area where I can see a night sky visual enough for it to seem realistic that people care about stars. I believe it, but it seems weird
@@draconariousthegamer1444Light pollution is a bitch.
stars, like birds, are a deep state psyop
@@draconariousthegamer1444
In case anyone is wondering bishop Cyril is the same bishop Cyril from the early christian schisms series. He is the one that goes after Nestorius.
Thanks imma watch that next
Some said that Hypatia was murdered because she was Nestorian
@@estebanmondragon6726Hypatia wasn't a Christian though.
@@estebanmondragon6726 "Source: Trust me bro". Clowndragon6726 ladies and gentlemen.
I wonder if Cyril in Archer being a loser as he is is a reference to that Cyril.
"They will kill her and make her immortal"
Task failed successfully
Tbf, not many knew about her afterward.
This could be the start of a wild kung-fu vampire vengeance movie.
@@AliThaDude tbf, there wasn't mass communication like there is today, but even so she was Definitely known afterwards. Source: This TH-cam video 💁🫵🤡
I think this is the opposite of failed successfully, like they triumphed unsuccessfully
@@NicaremETask succeeded unsuccessfully.
Leading off with “the one thing” that people know her for, then expanding out to an entire series about who and what she was? Good narrative choice, EH.👌🏼👏🏼
I read more about her due to doing some research for my art class, she’s in Raphael’s painting “School of Athens” and is the only women in that painting. I feel really sorry for her, she was intelligent and didn’t disrespect anyone’s religion, merely had different beliefs than some. I myself believe in God but I admire her, doing what she did especially during a time where educated women and any beliefs that didn’t follow Christianity were frowned upon she made a name for herself and stood her ground. She’s a great role model honestly
Thanks, I had no idea she was in there.
In Greco-Roman world, women were frowned upon IN GENERAL, like it's an Athenian thing damage from which lasts to this day, like it was that culture, which brought misogyny to Christianity, not vice versa. Case in point: there are female priests in Bible, and women were major sponsors of early Christian church... none of that survived culture clash with Hellenistic ideas of woman's place.
Not,really infact this was still transitional era when it came to beliefs.
@@jahirareyes1102 while true, she did in fact die due to her being pagan. She was killed because she didn’t share the same alignment as people. There still was hate and while people were transitioning the church has for a long time held power
@@mushlii whatever.... not everyone even agreed to that either so its not like all of them agreed to her getting killed.Might be because,she also praticed magic as well so idk..
I think it’s important to remember that histories often reflect just as much about the time they’re written as the period they’re about (and that’s why you need to take anything written by the Victorians with a giant grain of salt!) Hypetia is a great example of how people’s views on late antiquity/the early medieval period is colored by their era’s perceptions of religion, politics, and society.
I love these narrower series about individual figures. They feel more complete than the ones on whole empires. And Hypatia's an exciting subject. :)
I appreciate that you're presenting a more nuanced version of her history, instead of merely presenting her as the martyred savant so much of modern discourse about her has.
Though, it is mostly true. She's no less a martyr than any other "saint" Christians like to weep about.
@@MrTaekon Not even remotely.
@@justinbell7309 "not even remotely, because…"?
@@MrTaekon Because Christian martyrs were killed for their religious beliefs.
Hypatia was killed because of who she sided with in a local political squabble.
@@justinbell7309no, she was killed because she was a symbolic threat to Christian hegemony
There is nothing better than sitting at my drawing desk with a pad of paper and a pen and listening to some good ol' Extra History! Thank you for making these videos.
Hi extras history team, I was wondering if you have ever been interested in doing a extra history series on Ivan the terrible. I know you guys did a very brief short on him about how he was a terrible father but I would love to hear a full series on him.
If I recall correctly, the part of Alexandria that burned during Caesar's attack was the port, which burned a storage of books destined to export, but not any of the temples of the Library itself ^^'
Well the truth is that the history of centres of scholarship in Alexandria is much messier than most assume.
The great library of Alexandria was in fact only a part of a building called the museion which is where we get museum from. This library had declined and been damaged by many events over many centuries. Multiple fires, expulsions of academics and sieges until that library at some point no longer existed. No one event destroyed this institution.
By Hypatias time in the 4th century the function of the library was taken over by the serapium. Part pagan temple, part school, part library. This was pretty much destroyed by a mob of Christian zealots.
Yes, it was the Serapaeon that the mob destroyed with the apparent blessing of the emperor Theodosius himself, not the OG Library.
Isn't it most likely that the disappearance of the Library from the historical record (as is owed, we can only speculate, to a deliberate destruction of the structure) was the reconquest by Emperor Aurelian of Egypt in AD 274, his' ordering destroyed that quarter of the city that housed the Library (that is to say, if the structure was still standing at the time)?
The serapium was destroyed because the pagans there were murdering christians. There's no evidence of it being a school or library.
The part of a Christian Mob burning down the library is actually a long-perpetuated myth that doesnt have evidence to back it up. And there are some accounts of that day that have survived to this day and none of them Pagan or Christian that even indicates any large collection of books were destroyed.
One such person being a Pagan by the name Eunapius of Sardis, who was a scholar at the time and was known to have despised Christians, yet he makes no mention of the Christians ever doing then when he surely would have wept and accused them of such a crime.
We also have a historian at the time as well as Ammianus Marcellinus, where he was actually describing the Serapeum sometime before the demolition. During which when he spoke on the libraries, he spoke of them that they were no longer existed.
This myth comes from a man named Edward Gibbon who lived in the 1700s (1737 - 1794) he seems to be the first that began to spread this tale that many have started to believe as fact. This is only found in his book called Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, this is the only point this accusation ever comes up yet to my knowledge has no proof. While for the actual witnesses of the time indicate such an event never happened and that the libraries in the city had already been destroyed and gone before the destruction of the Serapeum.
Source: David Bently Hart and Tim O'Neil (where they provide their sources of those there at the this time and such)
The serapium was destroyed by christian zealots because the pagans there were murdering christians. No historical evidence of it being a school or library either.
Yeeeeee! I’ve been wanting to see a video about Hypatia for ages! Thank you ❤❤❤
Always a good day when Extra History posts!
The movie about her is pretty decent. It stars Rachel Weiz
That movie is full of myths, it doesn't represent real history (little history + lots of lies).
@@finrodfelagund8668
But it's a good movie though. Even History Buffs thinks so, and he hates historical inaccuracies in fiction with a fiery passion.
@@finrodfelagund8668 it’s also just a good movie. And what lies are you talking about. These events happened almost 1800 years ago nobody knows exactly what happens
@@MrJimheeren When you represent as history something of which "nobody knows exactly what happens", is lying.
But yes, it was a good movie (unfortunately).
@finrodfelagund8668 What are you talking about. How are they lying if they even say they are not sure of what happened but have theories of what might have happened. That doesn't make them lairs.
Next video idea:
The History of Skanderbeg
(I'm Albanian so I really want this to be reality; Love from Albania! ❤️)
So happy you did a series about her. First time I found out about her was from the Good Place too
Hi! I know that requests are meant to be done on your patrion but I'm technically still a minor and my parents do not want to pay for that but I wanted to know if you guys would be interested in talking about the evolution of the conflicts that have led to the current attacks between Gaza and Israel. I think it's important that people know now about how these things trace back, and I've seen a lot of misinformation about all this lately. I love y'all's content and I hope you have a great Saturday
4:58 probably the funniest part in the whole thing
I love this show!
Always gotta love the Good Place references
"Latin pronunciation"? More like "English idea of Latin pronunciation".
Very enjoyable episode nonetheless and I don't mind the pronunciation just the misnomer.
Hypatia was an amazing ancient public intellectual, whose murder made her a symbol of strength like Socrates. She was willing to question those who could only blindly believe, that's incredible.
There’s actually a really cool song about Hypatia-it’s called Kaisarion by Ghost!
Ayyyyyy
@@IVEmeritus Papa Emeritus IV what are you doing here!!😭😭
They made the Ghost song, "Kaisarion" from the album "Impera" a real thing?!
Take note girls, a used menstrual pad can be used in case of emergency
Like pepper spray
Fun fact there's a beautiful song by the Greek group Hainides called Alexandrino talking about Hypatia's murder check it out!
I believe the reference to monks at 0:38 is a confusion of chapters 14 and 15 in Book 7 of the Ecclesiastical History of Socrates of Constantinople. Socrates relates in chapter 14 a violent clash involving around 500 monks from Nitria, but this was a different event than Hypatia's murder in chapter 15. There, Socrates states that the mob consisted of some of city's Christian populace led by a lector named Peter, and a lector would not normally be a monk. Not a big detail, but I noticed it when watching.
Thanks For all the topics you teach us guys! You're the Best! Huge fan! Hearth please ❤❤❤❤❤❤
“Strike me down and I will become more powerful than you could ever imagine”
-Hypatia, probaby
Ah, very good. Hypatia is one of those people I have heard fragments about but never gotten a good overview. A treat.
Interesting take that a Neoplatonist would sorta stand in between paganism and Christianity.
She was many things, but there is no denying she was a cool lady. Hypatia, I raise my cup to thee.
I remember hearing about her as a kid and being so upset my teacher didn't know her
Professor Oak at 4:18
THAT'S Professor Samuel Oak.
Cousin of Samson Oak.
Grandfather of both Daisy and Gary Oak to you.
very simple animation, but interesting) cool_)
Awesome video! Your pronunciation of her name is the English one, though. Latin's pronunciation would sound more like the Greek one-stress on the antepenult, but AH as in "father"
1:45 ...that she'd be re-membered?
That's...a choice of words.
I learned about his watching the movie Agora. Its sad what happened to her.
extra history play guts and blackpowder its such a cool napoleonic era game with a twist
nobody gonna talk about why is prof. oak in the video??,btw your history videos are so intresting that once u upload a video,i'm like:YEEEEEEEAH MORE HISTORY LESSGOO SEE WHAT'S NEXT
Some people have never learned that some peoples power grows when they die.
1:11 NOOOOO BULL NYE NOOOOOO
Why don’t y’all do one on the Alamo?
Hypatia of Alexandria? so thats where dr. alexander hypatia got her name in dishonored 2
I saw that Walpole refernce.
The movie about her gave me a terrible twist in my stomach when I saw it. Is called Aghora great movie
I need MORE
Holy cow, some of those events were in agora
Well done! I now know less about Hypacia than I did before I watched this video.
Mindless hate makes more mindless hate no matter who its enacted on. But sometimes we simply cant control our emotions, try.
One minute in, I'm stoked to think that Carl Sagan is about to get a shoutout...then, a mere ten seconds later I'm much, much less stoked. While I wouldn't want Drs. Goodall and Hawking, nor Mr. Nye murdered, I would personally be devastated if a mob tore my man Dr. Carl Sagan apart. It was sad enough watching myelodysplasia slowly ravage him over the years.
I thought of Hank Green and brain would not let me think of any other scientist
I don’t really understand how neoplatonism has a part in her celibacy? Or is this a very specific sect?
Do you guys have your refrence list put somewhere?
In our Lies videos at the end of the series
I've never heard of her 😮 wow.
Coffee is my lifeblood...
If I don't have at least half a pot a day, I'm out...
The OG Dian Fossey
A highly intelligent respected woman being killed off by a bunch of guys who felt threatened by her. Times haven't changed all that much.
When was the last time this happened?
Good question, when was the last time?
@@EWOODJ Helloooooo, I already gave you an answer. Your refusing to accept my reply is not my problem.
Please do the Greek war of independence of 1821 against the ottoman empire next
I've been asking for this since the first episodes of the sengoku Jidai!!
They say an average man thinks a lot about Roman empire. I think a lot about Hypatia.
Imagine a brilliant person being torn apart by insane religious people. Give the US a couple years and you'll see Tiktok videos of it!
Is that professor Oak? 😄
Who else can only think of The Good Place
WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO AHMED ZIAD TURK?
Phoebe in the Good Place?
Icon behavior
Your characterization of Neo-Platonism is very wrong. They DID worship the traditional Hellenic, Roman and Egyptian Gods, and did do pagan rituals including animal sacrifice. Mainline Iamblichean Neo-Platonism considered theurgy and ritual necessary to achieving henosis (uniting with the divine) since only the higher (the Gods) and raise the lower (humans), Hypatia and her father were from the less popular Porphyrian branch of Neo-Platonism which taught that one could achieve henosis through pure contemplation, but she too would've taken part in the animal sacrifices that were done in the Serapeum from where she taught.
They didn’t actually, Neo-platonism was pretty much exactly what they said in the video according to all the sources I can find.
They believed in a singular god called “the one” and believed that all souls would return to the one after death where they would live in the afterlife.
They also believed in reincarnation but only for particularly “pure” souls.
Pretty interesting to be honest. Not exactly something I would follow though.
No, henosis (reunification with the Monad) was the goal of their philosophy not the generic afterlife, most people die and go to Hades where they drink from the waters of forgetfulness and reincarnate. The Monad (the one, the good, the source) is unintelligible and unmoving, therefore was not a God that was worshiped except through worshiping the Gods who all partake in the Monad. Platonists staunch Polytheists who resisted the christianization of the empire.
You should read some Proclus if you want to learn about Neo-Platonism.
@@TheOneCalledSloth I never mentioned anything about a “generic” afterlife. Their afterlife was reunification with “The one”.
Furthermore I don’t believe there is a generic afterlife. Most religions have different ideas of an afterlife, and usually each person has their own interpretation additionally.
He said she was from a sect of neoplatonism that differed a bit from the others. Which is always possible in any religion.
Don't Google how she died
I feel like a used menstrual rag wouldn't work to scare men today 😭💀
The way that Hypatia shut down that "student" that was "crushing" on her was a stroke of brilliance. 😂
Gotta try that sometime
Even made it into Hollywood.
@@garcalej Wait! You serious?
@@pokeplayerHQ Yeah. Watch the movie Agora. Based on her life.
@@Windona Also works with stained diapers.
nothing better than a rainy day with hot coffee and new extra history episode
Its rainy where I am too
Same 😂
I wish it rained where I live
I wished I had rain
That coffee better be from today's video's sponsor trade coffee
"In minutes, they will kill her, and make her immortal"
Daaaaamn this line gave me shivers
Bru I just saw a short about her and was about to look her up right when you posted this. Talk about perfect timing.
Yes!
The miracle of algorithms.
I've always wondered about Hypatia for a while! I'm so excited for this series, but mainly for Nick's art.
It’d be really interesting to see something about how Neoplatonism affected the origins of Christianity
The argument is that Neoplatonism affected not the origins, but the later development of Christianity (theological terminology was borrowed by Christian Church Fathers from pagan Neoplatonists, as most scholars say).
"Neoplatonism and Christianity" in Wikipedia-pretty good
Let's Talk Religion has a series about it, which is wonderful.
@@finrodfelagund8668 The Gospel of John opens with " In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
Anyone well versed at the time in Platonism would have immediately recognized this statement as Platonic in origin. So I think "origin" is not out of the question when one whole gospel is filled with nods to Platonism, lmao
@@justinbell7309 We're talking about Neoplatonism, which started some 200 years after the Gospels were written.
I will be honest, I mostly know her from Civilization VI where she is one of the best great scientists in the game
And who says you can not learn anything from games ;)
@@Cythil Civ is really great at making people interested in stuff, unfortunately it also spread some myths, for example the stirrup theory about Middle Ages, or having writing and the wheel as very important techs prerequisite for so much stuff when you would see much more complex maths in Mesoamerica which notably didn't have wheeled transport due to nature of their roads. But Civilization made it look like the Mediterranean way of advancement is the only/main one.
I just keep noticing how many misinfo in my head was reinforced by pop culture, not because they were evil but because they either didn't do the research, or the data they used was outdated (i.e. most dinosaurs in games). Total War has really positive impact with how they showed armies, people criticize them for inaccuracy too much. KOEI games too... I'm glad people get interested in stuff due to games or films or TV.
"Like, am I Eleanor of the Cheesecake Factory Bar?"
I was wondering when you lit would show up to meet Patty.
poor little Hypatia, I feel sorry for her, and to think that she was in the wrong place at the wrong time. I didn't think that the Romans who had no idea about the degradation of the famous Alexandria library
I am so glad that you decided to do an episode on Hypatia of Alexandria. I have heard about her first from the movie “Agora” (2009) which I found out had some major inaccuracies and later from the Good Place (as you mentioned). I’m curious since Hypatia was killed by a religious mob if there is any reliable information on Hypatia’s other philosophical or religious influences besides Neoplatonism?
I love the fact that you address that she was murdered for political reasons rather that being a martyr of the christian fanatism.
Could you please do Skanderberg one day? Me and my dad are Albanian and we would really appreciate it.
sup man im albanian too i hope we can get an episode
love from Kosovo
❤
Okay so this isn’t really about history but it’s something I didn’t get until I saw this video.
In Dishonored 2 one of the major story characters is a woman, a doctor and alchemist by the name of Alexandria Hypatia. This woman also lives in a part of the games world that is very Mediterranean inspired. Now I wonder if the word Adermire, the hospital she serves at in Dishonored, will show up.
*WE ARE RECAPPING HISTORY WITH THIS ONE 🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥*
is this a repeat episode?
2:25 hi-pay-shuh is the English pronunciation not the Latin one. I think in Latin it would be closer to the Greek hi-puh-tee-uh
in IPA: /hy.pa.tja/ ~ /hi.pa.tja/
thank you for all the history topics you teach
0:20 an educated woman in ancient times? Hoo boy
Wait... showing evidence of Hypatia's period was enough to turn the admirer off?
You’d be amazed how many men still get grossed out by that
A reference to the monks was made in the movie "the physician", but since the setting was in the golden age of Baghdad they had the religious fantics be a sect of radical islamists (similar to those who followed after the refocus on "the spritual" led by Al Ghazali). Needless to say, both groups ended the respective golden ages of enlightenment in their respective cities!
I thought the physician was set in Isfahan... but appart from that, I do now see the reference too, thank you
Almost like there is a pattern there with religious fundamentalists.
The Golden Age of Islam ended when Christian Mongols, with their Armenian and Georgian brothers, razed Baghdad and other great towns
@@DieNibelungenliad Quibble. The Armenians and Georgians were Christian, the mongols were not. There were Christians among them sure, but there was even more Buddhists, and even Muslims, among their host
Her story has become so infamous that legends of a christian martyr that pretty much correspond to Hypatia's story have found their way into the list of saints recognized by the church.
Even her christian contemporaries didn't want her to meet her end.
A movie that I grew up with and actually is about Hypatia is "Ágora" from Alejandro Amenábar. I do think it´s a great movie and the best thing is that it completely revolves around her life.
That movie is trash and misrepresents why she was killed. She died because of mob politics instead of her faith
I was thinking of that movie the whole episode--it even has the sanitary rag bit!
It's a shame most modern media never seems interested in focusing on figures like this whenever they delve into historical settings. So a salute to you guys for picking up the slack 😊
Hypatia of Alexandria (Hyyyypatia)
Hypa hypa!
One of my favourite people, from the Ancient world, because that she treated everyone equally no matter their Faith.🤝 Norse/Germanic Pagan here, Peace and Love to all People's of the World, no matter their category.
That's a completely different ethos to actual germanic and norse paganism. You're really Christian with a polytheistic dress.
@@nonnayerbusiness7704
There is no one single belief of all Norse or Germanic pagans. Never has been, never will be.
@Elora445 thank you.
"Hy-pay-sha" is supposed to be the *Latin* pronunciation? Uhm.... might want to check your Latin?
I would listen to this, but seeing as this is a woman and how you guys usually treat women and minorities you like to glaze extra thick. I, from now on, will not watch any content involving the groups media panders. I will NOT WATCH say Ye it, you support me
Her story makes me sad. I just don't understand why she had to die like that, how was her teaching harming ANYONE? It's just such a stupid, mindless act of violence.
She wasn’t killed for her teachings, she died for siding with the wrong political faction of Alexandria
PANR has tuned in.
5:05 why would she think that would work? 😅 Serenade an unwanted suitor? Makes me think she actually did have a few paramores that had to be explained as unrequited love lol
“It’s truly inspiring to see Theon of Alexandria’s unwavering support for Hypatia. In a time when women were often marginalized, his encouragement must have been invaluable. It’s a shame that some parents today still struggle with the idea of their children surpassing them. Building up your kids is not only the right thing to do but also incredibly rewarding. Seeing them succeed is a far greater source of pride than any personal achievement could be.”
Nothing better than to relax with your lunch and a new Extra history video! You're the Best! Hearth please ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤