QRP Myths BUSTED: Power Levels Explained
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- In this video, we bust the myth plaguing HAM Radio... Is 100w better than 10w? We talk about what it really means to operate QRP and the QRP lifestyle.
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Next time we'll talk about Crossfit.
You must have read my mind 😮
Exactly what I was thinking! And vegan......
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That is the first thing that crossed my mind too.
How do you know that someone is a QRP Vegan CrossFitter? They tell you every five minutes
Honestly, I usually run QRP in the field because the radios are tiny and light. It has nothing to do with WANTING to run QRP per se, and has everything to do with not wanting to carry a 100w radio and a big battery around on my back LOL
I do the same thing sometimes, makes total sense 👍
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Ape, I must say,for a minute I thought you were serious, then I laughed and laughed and laughed. I sat and thought for a minute, took a look again, and said "Wait is he serious?" I honestly don't know at this time and that's a wonderful thing. Keep it up Ape.
I’m not sure if I am serious or not either 😮
@@TheSmokinApe, there is indeed a very silly side to serious pursuits. Catch 22 described it all too well. The more serious people get, the more silly they get. I strictly follow the FCC regs, but everything else I will take pretty lightly. I find RF to be a fascinating hobby that I put a lot of time into. I build and experiment because I'm very curious about RF. I've built a 30 foot tall LowFER antenna with 2 miles of hand-wound wire in it, yes, 2 miles, and with a 3 foot diameter loading coil with 35 pounds of 8 gauge copper wire wound on it. That's pretty serious, but also quite silly. And I keep in mind that radio is still just a hobby.
Been a ham since the early 80's I have found that the antenna makes as much if not more difference than adding watts.
I would totally agree 👍
So it took you 45 years to figure that out.
@@placeholder152 no just made a comment. figured that out first week!
@@keithhawkins4641 OK then. Take care.
3db is 3db doesn't matter if you get it from the antenna or the radio if you can hear the other side of the conversation. Biggest advantage to antennas is you get that gain on the RX end also, second biggest is they can be cheaper than a radio upgrade and you're gonna need a better antenna eventually either way since you can't radio yer way out of a bad antenna. Still a bit silly to start QRP if yer not up for a challenge.
The first rule of QRP Club is we do not talk about QRP Club!
Right 👍
It's the 800 watt guys on FT8 that are annoying. The QRP guys are rock stars.
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800w on FT8 is like duck hunting with patriot missiles!
800 is QRP compared to my 1.5kw!
@@davidc5027Going from 800 watts to 1,500 watts gets you 1/2 of an S-Unit on the receiving end. Because math.
800W on FT8 is the bare minimum !
You know what I do?
I jump on a Kiwi SDR that is where I want to make contacts, I start at low power, then if my waterfall trace is blue I bring the power up until it's orange and red.
That’s a great tip 👍
lol. I was rolling. Small battery. Change the scale. Nobody in that part of the country anyway. It’s in the water anyway.
Glad you liked it jwilly, thanks for watching…
Well done Ape. I personally like to oil my insulators and wax my coax for a better IMD and spectral purity. 👍
Good tip! Thanks for watching Hollywood 👍
Make sure you use gold contacts, Monster cables for your Ethernet and a dedicated power drop from your utility. Optical cables for your external speakers. I assume you’re using a tube-amp.
I enjoy working QRP because it brings *me* enjoyment in the hobby. I'm pragmatical about it. My antenna is a cloud warmer for the most part, my coax probably dissipates 1/2 of my 5 W output, and I'm totally reliant on exceptional ionospheric conditions to get anywhere (the other end having a massive HF beam array to make up for my deficiencies helps also,) but when the stars align - I have a boat load of fun. Oh did I mention I like to run FT8 and occasionally CW - LOL. Thanks for the video.
Hey MrBTc, I do operate QRP and enjoy it… my thing is that I don’t subscribe to some of the QRP dogma that seems to be floating around. Thanks for the comment 👍
I think you should challenge yourself. My financial situation means that I have to improvise a lot of stuff. As a result I make my own transformers, baluns and antennas. Some people like the challenge of QRP. Others do pota/sota. Keep it fresh, lift each other up and don't be asshats.
Hey Daniel. I do operate QRP and do enjoy doing it, what I don’t do is subscribe to the QRP dogma if it wasn’t obvious 👍
@@TheSmokinApe Can I gingerly ask what the "QRP dogma" is? I'm a big QRP nerd, but I've got three 100 watt HF radios on my desk. - Cliff
Hey Cliff. First, thanks for watching... I have watched many of your videos and respect the work you do to educate hams. You actually produce content that helps people be better hams vs the countless unboxing / affiliate link stuff that seems to be so popular.
I tried to outline the QRP dogma behavior in my video but I'd be happy to expand, please keep in mind that I have three QRP radios on my desk...
1. Why the need to announce that you are operating QRP? I don't say "CQ 50 watts 20 meters 50 watts CQ" when calling? QRP operators are quick to say "it's about the antenna" when asked about why they do QRP. Why don't they announce "Dipole antenna, CQ dipole CQ"? No other group of operators choose to announce power level when calling CQ. It seems that there is some level of importance attached to the fact they are operating QRP... why?
2. Why the confusing rhetoric shifting between power measurement scales? It seems like QRP folks want to take a liner scale used for watts and translate it to db, which makes sense but they leave out the distinction of how exponential graphs work and their purpose. Then they take logarithmic derived values and apply them to a linear s-meter value. I appreciate the effort, but it feels like I am being sold a used car.
3. Why is it when a QRPer has a successful activation it is attributed to; skill, patience and antenna wizardry and when the activation is unsuccessful it's attributed to poor band conditions?
Personally, I enjoy operating QRP to verify my operating skill and antenna building understanding. But I have ZERO desire to tell people that I am operating QRP when I do, it would seem that I am asking for a handout that I can later say I earned with expertise.
If I choose to operate QRP, why would I want to make that known to the world unless I was looking for some form of validation? You see, I'm not against operating QRP, I just don't want favorable or special consideration for doing so....
I hope I haven't said anything upsetting and again I appreciate all you do to advance the hobby.
Ape
@@TheSmokinApe Upsetting? No! I think I agree with everthing you're saying!!! (and thanks for the kind words)
I NEVER use /QRP at the end of my call sign. I did many years ago and then I realized that some people are put off by it. If propagation is good between us, the receiving station might not even know I'm running QRP. Of course, a 100 watt (or even 1,500 watt) signal can be weak to the receiving station. When my signal is weak to the receiving station, maybe they'll have the patience to copy me. But, if I tell them I'm QRP up front, some percentage of those operators may be quicker to "turn the big knob" on me. Not pointing fingers... sometimes I don't have the patience to try to dig a weak signal out of the noise either. Fact: the one time I will absolutely "turn the big knob" is when someone with a straight key is sending poorly-spaced code! Life may not be too short for QRP but life is too short for me to sit here and try to figure out if you're sending an "A" or an "E" followed by a "T"! I know some may think I'm being unkind when I say that, but we all learned Morse Code by listening to perfectly formed code... so we are used to that rhythm (dot/dash ratio). Let's just stick with that instead of getting creative with longer than normal dashes, etc.
Successful QRP-ing requires favorable band conditions. I don't really buy into the "special skill" thing. When conditions are good, anybody who tries can make some QRP contacts. When conditions aren't good, it's not much fun. Of course, some people have a higher tolerance for frustration than others. I don't really consider it a failure if I don't make many contacts. It was still fun to put the hook in the water and watch the bobber with anticipation. Sometimes the fish aren't biting. As far as antennas, I use a SOTABEAMS linked dipole 90% of the time. If propagation is good, my trusty half-wave dipole is all I need. I built a hex-beam a long time ago (made a video on it). At the end of the video, I tell people that a hex-beam antenna only gets you about an extra 1/2 S-Unit (3dB) over a dipole... so is it really worth dragging all those parts out into the field over a dipole??? (not to me)
I'm not a fan of FT8, although it seems to have taken over most HF traffic. Live and let live. But, I have to say that I miss being able to have actual conversations like we used to be able to have regularly when PSK-31 was popular.
It was good to type with you. Keep doing your thing! You have a lot of great videos. - Cliff
Sounds like we are on the same page, thanks for checking out the video Cliff 👍
This video is great, and the only thing I love more is that there are people in the comments who are falling for some of the quips.
Thanks for watching AFR
It's more about the antenna than the amount of power. That goes for all of ham radio. Try running a linear when the power has been out for a week or longer. QRP is where it's at!
Exactly, it’s all about the antenna…
@@TheSmokinApe, I used to say that too, but after 1 good sunspot cycle I realized that it was even more about conditions, be it height up the mountain, atmospherics, or sitting out on the plains 9 miles away from the nearest power-line. I remember back in the early 1970's talking to the same group of Aussies and not missing a word, every evening after about 8:00 pm for a month or more on 27 MHz till about 11 pm when they would fade out. I was running a SSB CB putting out 18 Watts from my car in Colorado Springs, Colorado. When conditions are that good you hardly have to turn your radio on to get through.
I totally agree that band conditions, antenna and power all play a role in making contacts 👍
“Nothing goes over my head. My reflexes are too fast”
Very entertaining. Was smiling the entire time.
Awesome David, glad you liked it 👍
The roller coaster of emotions seeing that elusive POTA state activating, then noticing qrp.
Hey Thomas, thanks for watching 👍
Sonnnn 100w is QRP these days ;)
lol 🍻
This is the qrp ham version of not a Rubicon 😂😂😂😂 someone is engagement farming 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I’m just taking about what I love, and that’s QRP!
@@TheSmokinApe as a QRPer, I approve of this comment.
@@Mo_feezy 👍
What’s the max bandwidth for tx on the 705?
Ya know, I’ve never checked 😮
A few moments listening to the IARU beacon project will instantly show you the massive difference between 100, 10, 1 watt and 1/10th of a watt. 73.
Great point Les, thank you 👍
The antenna is like the shape and position of a light bulb and the transmit power is its brightness.
Why do I like QRP? 🤔 I tend to prefer the technical experimentation side of the service over the communication side as a pastime.
Cheers. 😁🍻
That’s what is awesome about the hobby, something for everyone, thanks for watching 👍
You're KILLING ME... STOP... 🤣😂🤣... NICE VIDEO.... QRP over and OUT and roger beep....
Thanks for watching KT0ODW, glad you liked it 👍
Great, now I gotta get my QRP on and learn FT8. Love the grey line interaction.
lol, thanks for watching Mr K 👍
Great video. Anyone can buy an amp with 10BKW and work the world with ease. Where is the fun in that. Just an easy ride. QRP is a skill and more satisfaction when you make that long QSO. Just enjoy the radio with what you have.
73 mate
Agreed, work with what you have and do what you like 👍
I've operated 5 Watts and less for 30+ years, mainly c.w.. Solar power and battery so minimal power drain. I look at VOACAP. Get on the QRP frequencies for QRP ti QRP contacts.
Better to not say QRP on calling CQ because some people are biased and won't answer you.
I use resonant dipoles 20m to 10m and a resonant inverted vee for 60m at 5.262 MHz. For other h.f. bands I made a copy of a Joystick with tuner.
G4GHB.
Hey Bill, thanks for watching the video 👍
Fantastic video, so true. I always enjoy your content!
Thanks for watching Keith, glad you liked it 👍
nice ! when a solar storm hits and band is closed. does not matter if you have 1 watt or a KW. not getting DX. when the bands are super 1 watt seems like a KW . all comes down to the SUN. some times the best antenna not doing DX and times any wire will do DX . for a few days in NY 10/11/12 meters been way down . today really hopping . does not matter if you are QRP or QRO most hams have MFJ stuff ! 73's
Thanks for watching and for the comment Robert 👍
ROFL 😂 who killed your dog and left a QRP calling card? Very fun video!
Thanks for watching hax, glad you liked it 👍
TX power is only half the equation. A good antenna helps both TX and RX.
I was testing my FT8 (hehe) into a dummy load and a nearby ham's rig heard it and automatically spotted me on the Internet. Dummy loads attenuate the signal but do not eliminate it.
Don’t forget solar conditions! Thanks for watching and the comment Mike 👍
I remember using a 25 watt HTX 10 meter rig in 89/90 and I regularly made contacts around the US, South America, Europe, Asia, and Australia from Oregon with just a simple homemade compromised dipole. No baluns or tuners. I did what I could afford as a high school student. If I had to have a 100 watt rig, I would have made zero contacts because I would have never been able to afford one. You do with what you got. That’s the real spirit of ham radio.
Work with what you got and and have fun, that’s for watching FW 👍
I'll take every db i can get. Cable, antenna, transmitter. For me its about making the contacts not how challenging it is.
Fair point 👍
Entertaining and informative. I like it.
Thanks Daniel 👍
Corollary to shooting RAW in photography. Surely there's an "I run QRP" tee like the "I shoot RAW" tee some photographers wear. Great vid, Ape!
Thanks M J, glad you liked it 👍
I use Bluetooth transmission line, (no loss) feeding a 400 ft rhombic at 1 watt giving me 100w ERP, only when the sunspot number is at 275.
I need some of that BT line 🤔
TNX ES 73 DE KM9G/QRP
QRP QSL QRP
I once told a guy on air that I operate a qrp radio because I only had enough money for a g90. He laughed at me and told me qrp is 5 watts or less and he operates at 3 watts and goes out of state daily....no big deal. 😂
Whatever you are doing, a QRP guy will say you are wrong.
@TheSmokinApe And a non-QRPer will follow him to do the same. 😂 I don't QRP, but I think I've heard 'life is too short for QRP' a hundred times. Usually followed by FT8 isn't ham radio and telling me how CW is the best. Wires X isn't radio or real operators HF DX. All of this junk is too prevalent in thr hobby.
If you're not causing a brownout when transmitting, you still have watts to spare. 👌
lol, right 👍
How the hell were you able to make it through the entire video with a straight face? It must have been from exceptional editing... you forgot to include in the QRP mech list... the proverbial illuminated shack sign.
"Some of this looks pretty impressive with contacts getting across to Asia and Europe... but they're probably asleep at this time, so it doesn't really count".... LMAO
It was hard to no laugh 👍
At my advanced age I like to get out and enjoy the fresh air and hunt pota........carrying my ic705 with it's internal battery (only) and the bare necessities of a 20 meter half wave whip on a wolf river coil tripod base is about all i can manage! After about an hour of having a fantastic time hunting I can pack up and head home before wetting myself. Keeping it light and simple enables me to enjoy the hobby more.
Sounds awesome, thanks for watching NWH 👍
Most of my best qrp contacts were by complete accident because i forgot to turn the power back up 😂
Haha 😂
voacap seems interesting, when setting my locale way down yonder, 10w on the bands I prefer (40/15) are like watching that last tiny ripple blip on a scope, 100w and it lights up like xmas, thats using prop chart and wheel, not sure how you got your screenies, I'll keep playing and find that part, however, its tell me right now there is no way I should be getting anything on 15, yet I'm hearing Spain and Germany, thats at 0130 utc. its nice but yes some of its results are subjective, espesh with thew qrp v 100w+ ;) Nice tool tho Ape, thanks for making us aware of it.
Hey Ressy, I got my maps with the REL button on the bottom of the screen 👍
As a QRP operator I was digging this video. Then I thought to myself I do need a shirt or hat or something to represent my lifestyle. And then you started talking about buying merch etc. I then realized the satire intended and I felt like I was the joke. I am the joke. Thanks Ape, this was a hilarious take. I’m not a regular viewer but I’ll be watching now for sure. Well done.
👀 Yeah, I was joking a little bit. Thanks for watching 👍
I prefer my 705 over all other radios. Qrp needs patience and propogation condition understanding. My best was a station from Moscow 5 watts and 817nd. Thanks for the video 🎉
The 705 is a fantastic radio. Thanks for watching and for the comment 👍
Omg I’m dead. This is awesome
Glad you liked it Matt 👍
You’re a funny guy!!!!! Love it.
Thanks bduff, glad you liked it 👍
No one with a ham radio lives out there in the middle of nowhere where our propagation is great.. so it doesn’t really matter. Bahahaha
Right 👍
As a newb deciding between a G90 and a FT-891 as my first rig, I appreciate your sobering take. Without much real-estate or budget, I’m leaning towards the G90, just in hopes that it’ll be good enough. Not because it’s “QRP” :)
The g90 is a great and fun radio 👍
@@TheSmokinApe thnx for the vote of confidence. Thinking I was wishful not hitting 100W.
I don't think you can go wrong with the G90. Just don't think it will be your last radio. Buy it and have fun. Then save up for a 7300 or similar and keep the G90 for portable. Put the 7300 in the shack.
"Appeal to authority is a logica lfallacy" - TheSmokinApe Your QRP bias is based on you being a CB guy. I do find 10W on FT8 to be pretty good.
But FT8 isn’t real ham radio 😮
Just out of curiosity what is a QPR'er? typo? Good job on this video as always 73.
A QRPer is someone who operates their radio at low power levels 👍
@@TheSmokinApe, but they asked what a QPR'er was.
Oh, I must have been typing at QRP levels and made a typo 😮
Someone who "Creatively" improves their antenna earth Ground plane resistance.....
Yeah.. and I like calling QC QC.. just to keep people on their toes!
Ok.. I’m sitting here laughing and also trying to figure out what the myth is that got busted!
Bahahaha
Hey Mike, when you figure it out can you let me know?
Honestly hilarious 😂 especially the "I have a small battery" declaration !! .....Regardless of power level used, Technically for Identical atmospheric Propagation Conditions, operational mode & equipment capability, 10x Transmitter power increase Tripples range Distance for same Receiving S/N readability.....That seems like a significant performance difference....
I agree and thanks for the comment Tom 👍
Congratulations, I think you were able to piss off all ham operators in under 10 minutes. Impressive! 😂
It was hard work but I got it done 👍
Just the sad ones. Most of us know when we're being silly and lean into it.
@chublez It was a joke. I agree, sad hams have no sense of humor. Fortunately, I rarely meet one. Most hams are pretty nice folks.
As someone new to ham radio (just studying), I am a little confused. Was he making fun of QRP and "anti" QRP, or just QRP?
Edit: I miss heard which was 10W and 100W.
I was kinda making fun of QRP
I would like to congratulate you for coming out of the QRP Closet. (Edit: LOL)
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I'm all of 3 minutes in, but this is funny as hell. Love it!
Glad you like it DS 👍
End result is most QRP'ers make the poor sap on the receiving end lean forward, strain, and adjust all their dials to pull out the weak signal. Maybe Hams that receive QRP should get most of the credit. LOL.
The guy on the RX side gets the privilege of working a QRPer 👍
They just need a better receiver. Like an Elecraft.
Thanks for a great chuckle Ape. Once again you make it real. I do both 100W and QRP. Mostly only QRP out in the field. there is a noticeable difference between the two. I can get away with QRP a lot of the times on CW but I know I would get more contacts with 100W. They are both fun and have their place.
73 Bob WV7W
I agree and I even operate QRP sometimes 😮
This is great, I had a lot of fun listing on the band with you are podcasting on
Thanks Duane, glad you liked it 👍
This is awesome and hilarious! Qrp, CQ!
Thanks Jeff, glad you liked it bro 👍
There’s a qrp channel that did the 10 vs 100 watts using a radio connected to a dummy load and the other using the regular antennas, both on the same desk… ignoring noise level, etc… then people pointed that out and he did the same test on a web sdr 250 km away. In his mind he proved that 10w delivers the same signal that 100 does. The worst is that it’s actually a big channel, which influences many new hams.. hindering their experience.
You should also do a video about the “Amazon link in the description “ TH-camrs.
73!
Hey ve2zdx. You simply can believe everything you see on YT.
I should do that video 🤔
Do tell. Which video? Don't be shy...
This is why I love the g90. First cause I can't afford anything better then there's the fact I don't fit in anywhere. No standard 100w so I'm not breaking pileups and too much to call qrp.
The g90 is a great radio for people to experience HF
Was just thinking you let the FTHaters get away scott free and but then as if by magic, you slapped one in there at the end.. Funny as.
Let the ft8ers get away? Not on my watch!
Hey Ape! You wouldn’t happen to be the station along Grand Ave in Surprise? There is a tower and beam that gives me a serious case of “I want it” every time we come down there from Bullhead City to visit our son. De n7kme (and Pam, Kb7ryb)
Not me
Well shucky darn. That antenna setup is HUGE
That's what I like, empirical evidence and real world results! People can say what they want but results speak for themselves! Good job Ape!😁😁 73
Thanks Chuck, glad you liked it 👍
QRP is the Arch Linux of HAM Radio lol I love this video "I Operate QRP btw" should probably be a T-Shirt ;)
Haha
You cracked me up Ape! You do it well with a straight face. You should go into politics! 😂
I'm only allowed to do QRP anyway.😊💪
I should go into politics 🤔
Ape this cracked me up, I have an old ten-tec and old I-com 703 both QRP only radios on my desk and I enjoy Pota hunting and activations with them. My wife sets 2 feet away from me using the FT-DX10 at 100 watts and along with that YL voice of hers she steals my contacts every time, but I do enjoy QRP, and if you cant laugh at this or yourself then to quote one of my favorite youtubers you should go watch a cat video it will make you happy :) also I liked the science behind this very cool keep the videos coming 73 KE8OUO
Thanks Jeff, glad you liked it and thank you for watching 👍
YOU ARE GUILTY of talking QRP smack and promoting felonous activities and if they are .... Monkey talk.. Tanks for the chuckle. Next up, Baofeng Myths BUSTED? Spurious are not a problem outside of city limits and hey most folks aren't affected... Love it. That should tease some ham cronies. Trash talk aside, I have always enjoyed your videos. Thanks.
Thanks dreupen, glad you liked the videos 👍
Is anyone els having progress bars flashing while wathing this or other channels? Some channels are flash and some are not.....?
?
Like I have a dirty phone screen but I don't. I can go to another channel and all is good. Watching yours tonight the play progress bar and paid promotions warning flashes about twice a second. Driving me ape shot crazy......
.see what I did there...
I do see. It should only pop up in the beginning, I’ll go back a double check the settings. Thanks for the heads up 👍
People who are running 100 watts are just adding QRM which is getting in the way of my QRP QSO's honestly
Am I falling for the quip?
@@TheSmokinApein the words of Tom Petty, "Free Fallin'"
Ah
😂 so good... "another myth busted"
Gotta love big opinions. No matter which side of the fence you lean towards, it still feels the same when you fall and hit the dirt.
Hey paaao, thanks for watching 👍
I always choose the higher wattage.
The way the good lord intended!
This is great.
Do it again using SSB, AM, FM. And etc.
I’m pretty sure they will be more VOACAP videos 👍
@@TheSmokinApe
Love your no nonsense approach and your damn good on man video production techniques. 👏
The internet spotting network doesn’t help my qrp results at all but I use it anyway since it’s actually another form of radio. 🙄
Haha
Now I'm sad because I only have a 20 watt radio.
Also I must admit that I guess I kinda fell for the myth myself....
You can still have fun with a 20w radio but it’s a shame some channels over sell the QRP lyfe 👍
@@TheSmokinApe look i still get ft8 and varac into the usa (according to pskreporter, but have still to make a contact) on 20w and in a compremised antenna deployment (apt. building). hey ape you like ft8 maybe we can try and make a contact sometime?
@@TheSmokinApe i still get ft8 and varac into the USA at least according to pskreporter. That is with my g90 and a pretty compromised antenna setup (apt. building stuff).
Keep that G90 and use it portable or mobile. Its a good little radio. Save up for the 100w shack radio. Next thing you know you will be looking for an amp. It never ends.
So If I'm on a repeater with a 5W HT can I claim QRP? asking for a friend. 73
I don’t see why not… answering for a friend 👍
Wait a minute, I do QRP and…
😂😂😂
You never said anything about lowered expectations and higher frustration levels after only two hours on 10 watts during a solar storm while only making 11 contacts?!?😎
Maybe a part 2 is necessary?
5w are 37 dBm and 100w are 50 dBm, so the difference is 13 dBm, right?
Or two Smeter signal bars... it really is a difference but not so much as people think...
Unfortunately many hams have antennas that are poor performers, specially on low bands, so they have to rely on power (of others too)
Give me a pair of 300 ft towers and I will be QRP for life.
Yeah, 13db. Thanks for watching David 👍
Ape please do one about contesters XD
Hey Paul, it’s on the list 👍
Don't forget the 200 year old technology CW lovers, Uuugh. Seriously, I'm trying to learn. 😂
I thought you only had a g90 😮
I had one but traded to a buddy some time ago...
If you do this test on Easter Island you will see that there is no difference between 0.1W and 1000W, just water.
LOL
I prefer WQRP
who doesn't?
It’s not the size of the wand it’s the magic of the magician
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I run whatever power level I want to to have fun. Usually it's low power, as I have fun figuring out how to send info with ever lower power levels. I'm playing with chirp modulation and Meshtastic lately. It works quite well. In the past I played with BPSK, crystal ovens, and very slow bit gathering rates on longwave. It's fun to drive 800 miles while copying your 7 mW beacon all the way, day or night. I also experimented with using clockwise phase rotation for a digital '1' and counter-clockwise for a '0'. I built 4 helical antennas, modified 4 identical old radios, and built the interfaces to make it all work. It didn't work very well. But for me it's a lot more fun than working rare DX, because I had an idea, then I learned how to do it, then I built my gear, then I put it on the air, and it either worked, or I learned why it didn't. It's just a hobby, but that kinda fun is hard to beat.
That’s awesome, and you are 100% correct it’s got to be fun 👍
I laugh every time I see someone using 40m NVIS two states away to 'prove' there is no difference between 10w and 100w. After two years operating 10w and 100w from Hawaii, I can definitely say I get about 7-10x the number of QSOs with 100w compared to 10w on SSB.
I think the point is that if you want to FT8 the next state 10w is fine. Not everyone is chasing DX on HF. There is no right or wrong way to ham.
I’m right there with you HSE 👍
@@bassmanjr100 Most of those videos are trying to tell you there is no difference between 10 and 100 watts. Working the next state over doesn't prove they are the same, it just proves that 10w will work one state away.
Right
Okay, I’ll do the FT891 instead of there G90.
The g90 is a pretty sweet radio, I really miss the one I sold
🤣(that's all I can think to say)
lol, thanks for watching Paul 👍
QRP4L!! Here's your T-shirt design
Haha! Thanks for the comment 👍
FT8 isn’t really Amateur Radio… Ah, another ham who really understands. Right-on! In Amateur Radio you’re supposed to actually talk to-or converse with (maybe using Morse Code) the person on the other end. No, it doesn’t count if your computer is making a contact (with the other person’s computer) and you look at the monitor to determine if it was successful. FT8 is to Amateur Radio as batch processing is to computing.
Right! We need to have established rules of what ham radio is and isn't! 🤔
FT8 rules the world with QRP as your dirty 100W just fills the ocean.
lol, thanks for watching Mark 👍
That's why I with a 100 or 100+W have 300+ DXCC confirmed on HF while you are chasing counties.
Do you have a punchy signal?
Hilarious !!.. Sooo funny.. thx for the laugh!! I bet you didn’t know I operate QRP QRP k0klb QRP QRP, but I like to keep it a secret.. so, Shhhhh (just like my signal) keep it between us.. lol
Thanks for watching K0KLB, glad you liked it 👍
🤣🤣🤣 I'm still laughing at this Ape!!! Are you sure you meant to say I have a small " battery " ??? 😂😂 I loved the FT8 remark!!!!
Yes, the battery son! Thanks for watching BA, glad you liked it 👍
@@TheSmokinApe gotta have a small Richard 🤣🤣
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Bahahaha.. “FT8 isn’t really Ham Radio anyway”. There are guys here in my ham radio group that keep saying stuff like.. I finally made a contact in a new country I’ve been trying for… on FT8.
He was asleep and his rig talked to another rig of a guy that was asleep.. yep .. not ham radio.
Bahahahaha
@@miketaylor6700 being honest, I love ft8
Sad ham talking about Sad Hams. Sad😢
Fantastic post! But the truth is; sad ham commenting on a video of a sad ham talking about sad hams…. Another myth busted son, you are welcome!
@TheSmokinApe Physics is physics, bro. I guess I am glad I am not exposed to all the people you seem to be. Life is too short for that
Obviously, a bit of tounge in cheek... Yes, I know that QRP enthusiasts tend to try to justify their existence. So, a lot of this is justified. But, it is actually fun to operate QRP. One difference - I usually DON'T tell people I'm operating QRP, unless they ask. Why tell people? Either they're going to hear you, or they won't.
Hey Ralph, I operate QRP often because it is fun but I do think telling everyone is a little silly 👍
Just remember, He who stirs the pot ...... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You gotta stir the pot if you wanna know what’s in the stew…
That's funny shit right there Ape!
Thanks Brian, glad you liked it 👍
Congratulations, you've done it. I'm mad.
lol, thanks for watching 👍
Thank you for the video shi*tpost. I shall spread it far and wide.
You're welcome!
As a dedicated "Hundred Watter", I have to say that with a "tuner", getting your SWR down 1.0.1 is no challenge and alleviates a LOT of frustration. -Especially when you're trying to work HF from an apartment with an antenna mounted to the balcony railing and you're only 2 floors up!
KD8EFQ/73.
Hey KD8EFQ, thanks for watching 👍
Gotta talk to your friends on the internet cause you can't talk to them on the air 😅 I think your off Walts Christmas card list.
Nah man, Walt is awesome.
All cbers run qrp. I learned from the best
It’s true 👍