FRANK ZANE AND ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER RUN OUT OF GAS
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- 1:00 - CHRIS LOST HIS DESIGNER WATCH
2:14 - FRANK ZANE SIGNS ON
4:10 - SAN DIEGO EXPENSIVE?
5:00 - FRANK IS ONE OF 3 GUYS TO EVER BEAT ARNOLD
5:50 - HOW DID FRANK DECIDE TO BECOME A BODYBUILDER
7:30 - FRANKS IDOLS
8:00 - WHERE DID FRANK GET HIS INFORMATION ON HOW TO TRAIN BACK THEN
9:30 - HOW FRANK ZANE TRAINED AND HOW HE CURRENTLY TRAINS
10:30 - FRANKS CONDITIONING AND CONTEST PREP AND HOW DID HE GET IT?
11:30 - DID FRANK TRAVEL JUST TO TRAIN WITH RICH
12:30 - FRANK SET THE AESTHETIC STANDARDS FOR MILOS
12:57 - WHAT IS EVERYONE'S FAVORITE FRANK ZANE PICTURE AND POSE
14:44 - HOW MUCH TIME DID FRANK PUT INTO POSING
15:30 - DOES FRANK STILL FOLLOW BODYBUILDING
16:24 - what changed in the Olympia line up back then to now
16:45 - DOES FRANK APPRECIATE THE NEW CLASSIC PHYSIQUE CLASS
18:15 - WHEN YOU HEAR CLASSIC YOU THINK OF FRANK ZANE
19:05 - HOW WAS IT POSSIBLE TO COMPETE IN NABBA AND OLYMPIA BACK THEN?
20:20 - HOW DID FRANK DIET AND EXPERIMENT?
21:19 - HOW MUCH CARDIO DID FRANK DO?
21:55 - HOW MUCH WEIGHT DID FRANK PUT ON IN OFFSEASON
22:40 - DID FRANK HAVE RED MEAT DAILY?
23:30 - WHAT WAS A HIGH CARB DAY LIKE FOR FRANK?
24:20 - DID FRANK USE DIURETICS
25:00 - CHRIS SEEING FRANK WHEN HE WAS LITTLE AT THE POST OFFICE IN PALM SPRINGS
25:50 - WHO WAS THE CLOSEST TO FRANK ZANE'S PHYSIQUE
26:40 - BOB PARIS AND FRANK ZANE'S SHAPE AND POSING
27:40 - LEE LABRADA AND BOBS POSING
28:25 - WHO ARE FRANKS FAVORITE BODYBUILDERS
28:56 - 1983 FRANKS LAST COMPETITION
29:20 - FRANK STILL TEACHING AT HIS HOUSE
29:40 - WHAT WAS IT LIKE COMPETING WITH ARNOLD BACK THEN?
30:38 - WHAT HAPPENED IN 1980 OLYMPIA
32:05 - THE FAMOUS CONFRONTATIONAL PHOTO
33:40 - WAS FRANK THERE WHEN MENCER WAS CONFRONTING ARNOLD?
34:30 - 1980 DID ARNOLD GO TO MR. OLYMPIA TO COMMENTATE AND THEN COMPETE?
35:40 - TODAY AS A PROMOTER YOU HAVE NO CONTROL OVER WHAT THE JUDGES ARE GONNA DO
36:30 - THE JUDGES CHOSE AND RECOGNIZED FRANKS TYPE OF PHYSIQUE AND USED IT AS A MOLD
37:20 - WHAT WAS ARNOLDS BIGGEST WEIGHT ?
38:00 - HOW BIG WAS SERGIO OLIVA ?
38:35 - FRANK AND SERGIO HAD THE SMALLEST WAISTS IN BODYBUILDING
40:10 - DID ANYONE SEE THE PITTSBURG PRO ?
40:45 - PITTSBURGH PRO GUEST POSING AND WHO WAS MOST IMPRESSIVE?
41:55 - DEREK LUNSFORD BETTER LAST YEAR?
43:16 - NICK WALKER GUEST POSING
44:35 - AS OF RIGHT NOW IS DEREK WINNING?
47:06 - SCORE SHEETS BACK THEN VS NOW
49:00 - DID FRANK GET A LOT OF CRITICISM FOR BEATING GUYS BIGGER THAN HIM?
50:22 - POSING AND FOOT PLACEMENT AND STEPPING PAST THE LINE
51:45 - FRANK KNOWN FOR BEING A STATUE
52:37 - WHEN FRANK WAS WAITING FOR CALLOUT DID HE STAND AS A STATUE AND POSE IN LINEUP?
53:45 - DOES FRANK HAVE A LOT OF ATHLETES REACH OUT STILL TO COMPETE
54:35 - FRANK AND ARNOLD IN TIJUANA FOR A SHOW AND RUNNING OUT OF GAS
55:15 - CHRIS WOULD DRIVE BY FRANKS HOUSE WHEN HE WAS YOUNG TO SEE HIM
56:00 - HAS FRANK EVER SEEN ARNOLD DO THE SIDE TRICEP POSE?
57:30 - FRANK PICK ONE EXERCISE FOR EACH MUSCLE GROUP?
59:12 - DID JOE WEIDER GIVE ANY TIPS FOR FRANKS ROUTINE
59:56 - WHAT WAS IT LIKE FIRST POSING FOR JOE?
1:02:00 - MILOS POSING IN PHOTOSHOOT IN FRONT OF JOE AND BEING TOLD TO POSE LIKE FRANK
1:03:00 - FRANK LEAVES
1:04:00 - TALKING ABOUT GUEST POSING AT PITTSBURGH AGAIN
1:04:42 - IS DEREK GOING TO BE THE NEXT MR. OLYMPIA? AND WILL NICK WALKER EVER WIN?
1:05:44 - HADIS POSING VS DEREKS POSING
1:08:27 - SHOULD HADI HAVE WON MORE OLYMPIAS?
1:09:04 - WAS THERE A CERTAIN PERIOD WHEN EVERY BODYBUILDER WAS ON THEIR GAME? AND DO YOU THINK HADI WILL EXPERIENCE IT?
1:10:23 - DEREK VS SAMSON
1:12:50 - HADI VS DEREK
1:13:30 - STRIATIONS ON DEREKS PHYSIQUE
1:16:04 - DEREK IS LIGHTER THAN MOST GUYS BUT LOOKS JUST AS BIG
1:17:25 - does nick need people to be off to win an Olympia?
1:22:23 - CHRIS IN 1999 SHAPE COULD HAVE WON AN OLYMPIA NOW
1:24:32 - HIGH INTENSITY TRAINING FOR CHRIS WORKED ONCE IT WAS TOO LATE
1:25:21 - MILOS HAD MORE CARBS IN A WEEK THAN FRANK HAD IN HIS LIFE
1:26:04 - DENNIS GOING TO NY PRO AND GONNA ASK STEVE TO COME ON POD
1:28:22 - PUT SHAWN RAY ON THE STAGE AT HIS BEST NOW. WOULD HE WIN AN OLYMPIA?
1:31:40 - GETTING TO STRIATED BODY PARTS.
1:32:12 - HOW SERIOUS WAS CHRIS DIETING FOR A SHOW?
1:34:35 - CHRIS WAS NOT DISCIPLINED ENOUGH TO GO TWO DAYS WITHOUT CARBS
1:36:26 - CHRIS’S POSE VS JAY
1:40:17 - CARLOS THOMAS PULLED OUT OF NY PRO
1:42:16 - FRANKS NICKNAME WAS CHEMIST
1;43:20 - DENNIS LARGEST MEASUREMENTS FOR THIGHS
1:45:04 - MILOS FEELS GUILTY FOR TALKING TOO MUCH
1:46:23 - MILOS BEING ON ALL THE COVERS
1:48:08 - MILOS HAS ALL THE PHOTOS OF EVERYONE FROM COMPETING
Milos never talks too much. His questions are great. He's like a kid in a candy store extracting info from the guests
Roided results are of course still invalid.
It is all just entertainment and it has no meaning.
Real athletes do not take drugs.
Why does this video exist?
Why does this channel exist?
Why do these people exist?
It makes no sense.
@@mdoublehb4571 why do you exist?
he asks the questions us fans want to know
Frank Zane recently turned 80 and is still sharp, what a champ
Still trains 3on 1 off
I definitely say that I would like to see more episodes with Frank Zane. Hopefully, others would also agree. He's such a class act. ❤️
Dull as dish water. You want to see him because you probably have same personality dull and makes you feel better about yourself. Offered nothing particularly and new nothing about today's day and age an thought Mike Ohearn was a current pro bodybuilder
I'm not sure if this is a serious comment lol. That was pretty rough. Zane definitely didn't seem too interested in the questions he was getting, very short subdued answers.
@@jaredmuller171 you're showing that you're lost when you just stated that you are not sure that my comment is serious when my comment was genuine. Anyone with brain cells that watched the video saw that he likes to talk about bodybuilding.
@@jaredmuller171That’s Frank Zane’s personality. He’s pretty stiff sometimes, but I still appreciate what he did in the sport and when he opens up just a little bit with some personality, it’s gold. 💪💯💪
Roided results are of course still invalid.
It is all just entertainment and it has no meaning.
Real athletes do not take drugs.
Dennis asked if he follows bodybuilding now. Come on the first 5 minutes he had no clue who poor Chris was. 😂😂😂.
"what's your name again"? Lol that was ruthless
Well, he couldn't see the other guys. And he was retired 20yrs before Chris got STARTED, and was 50 with no social media. Makes sense
Poor Frank , he had some good moments and others when he just was out of the mix a bit, but when he said that I thought oh man, this isn’t going to go well ! At one point Chris was laughing but his mouth wasn’t really moving and Frank said “ who is laughing ? He thought there was someone off screen , it irritated him .
He’s a grandpa. Give him a break.
Milos like a goofy,giddy girl talking to Frank. 😂
What i appreciate most about Dennis is the fact that he’s never afraid to confront anyone in a respectful manner. What a legend.😊
I never thought you guys would get Frank Zane on here but yall did it. Thanks you.
Roided results are of course still invalid.
It is all just entertainment and it has no meaning.
Real athletes do not take drugs.
Why does this video exist?
Why does this channel exist?
Why do these people exist?
It makes no sense.
@@mdoublehb4571 why are you on here then....a day Natty is a day Wasted!
Imagine still eating animal products in 2023.
Diseases and shortened life span guaranteed.
Cooked food caused and maintains the fall of mankind.
Raw vegan nutrition is the salvation of humanity.
Best podcast on the internet. You guys always ask the best questions to the guests cuz of your history in the sport.
Indeed
If that true why nobody asked about Ramys filled quads shoulders with oil, fillers, pmaa etc?
Roided results are of course still invalid.
It is all just entertainment and it has no meaning.
Real athletes do not take drugs.
Why does this video exist?
Why does this channel exist?
Why do these people exist?
It makes no sense.
@@mdoublehb4571 deep
Frank Zane is legend! Amazing physique!
What an honor to be able to listen to Mr Zane thanks Dennis, this was great !!! SR.
Dennis did a great job with this interview! I have followed Frank and wanted to model my physique after his. But Frank is where my dad was at not long ago, not a-lot of patience and sometimes not understanding the questions or situation. One of the greatest! Would love to see how his physique would do on the classic stage today.
I can't believe you guys did it. Thank you for bringing the legend himself !
Saw Zane win 79 Mr. O
Great Champion. Thanks for having him on.
I was there too
MORE FRANK ZANE guys!! He's the greatest.
You need to get more guys from the 70's and 80's on your show.
What a nice surprise to see Christine at the beginning getting Frank set up ! what a beautiful lady I remember her pictures from back then as well as I do Franks, and from just that bit of her I could tell she still has a youthful energy .
Frank Zane always be a B.B. hall of famer!
Cracks me up that Chris has to introduce himself to Zane!🤔🤣
Lmaooo right
@@christophercormier4146 well he is a older gentleman...before my dad passed he called me my sister, my daughter then finally got my name...he did them the same lol its old age ...but Frank is pretty sharp!
This podcast was Gold, thanks so much 🙏
Zane shared some great information and history 👍
Would love to see the workout Chris has with Frank sometime soon 😊
God love Frank Zane and his family, a classic bodybuilder and Mr Universe, and Mr Olympia winner, thanks, Chris Cornier, Milos and Dennis, !7/25-25/23!and, of course, Frank.
Cormier!
Chris’ self-deprecating way is priceless and endearing! 👏
Frank Zane setting the record straight on Arnold Schwarzenegger and the 1980 Olympia.
😂😂😂😂”Chris, get up of the floor” !! 🤣🤣🤣🤣. You crack us up man, for real 👍
Lmaooo
If you look at some of Milo‘s pictures back in the day, he had a Frank Zane look. Very symmetrical and well proportioned.
So Nice you got Frank on, a true legend and smart as few. Thank you guys✊✊
The natty that won the Mr. Olympia 👍 What a legend
Zane was not natural
@@odessafile75 How do you know?
@Vegar Seljenes Zane gave a number of seminars in the late 70s/ early 80s including one the day after the 1980 Canadian Championships in Hamilton, Ontario ( Canada). When asked if he took steroids this was his reply " Yeah I take steroids, I'm not going to lie to you like other guys and say I don't " He was then asked if one can compete without steroids.
His reply " Yeah you can compete without steroids but you aren't going to win" In addition in some of Frank's writings he actually made poems about steroids.
If you think I'm a Zane " hater" I actually met him on 2 occasions, have a photo with him and have communicated with him in recent years by email.
@@odessafile75 He got out cause the abuse of drugs was too much in other Athletes .
@nemtall I recall Zane saying in a number of articles/ TH-cam videos that he stopped competing as he was 41 ( the same age when Bill Pearl retired), he had more injuries ( shoulders etc) and he noted that the trend was towards more mass such as Lee Haney.
It was other bodybuilders such as Richard Baldwin who stated he stopped competing ( in whole or in part) due to the abuse of drugs.
Frank getting all these compliments - not 1 Thank you 🤣 - poor guy is standing the whole time - Sit Frank!
The best BB podcast! Only podcast with ALL IFBB PROS🤙 great content every time,inside stories from living legends.
Chris, Milos & Dennis
3 Kings👑👑👑
Thank you, Milos, for mentioning Mohamed Makkawy You cannot talk about aesthetics, classic lines and giant killers without bringing up Makkawy. He defeated Lee Haney more than once. .and his posing, along with Chris Dickerson's, was out of this world. For a bigger classic physique, yes, Bob Paris and Berry DeMey and yourself as well. Also, Rory Leidelmeyer as a non-pro.
You're also right about Lee Labrada being the closest to Frank Zane's physique. The classic poses he hits and even when he's just standing relaxed on stage, very reminiscent of Zane.
I was waiting for Makawwy to be mentioned what time stamp was this?He defeated Haney five times and had imo the greatest posing routine ever.He is in my top 6 most aesthetic with Ray...Wheeler..Clairmonte....I liked Zane more offseason than in contest shape...He just lacked fullness due to his genetics a bit too scrawny tbh.Offseason though amazing!
You must have started working out in the 80’s
@@anthonyvenegas8299 Mid-70s joined my first commercial gym. I had to get a notarized parental authorization to be allowed to join. That's how young I was. 😁
Fwiw Chris I had you winning that Arnold Classic over Cutler. I've been judging and competing for over 30 years now, at that time I had already been judging for a number of years and I thought you had it.
Appreciate you
Thank you Dennis and team for this gold of a podcast!
Would love to see how Zanes best physique would do on the Olympia stage today !
I love these classic guys. You have to get Arnold on here.
Frank Zane - absolute legend. Thank you
Good point @Chris Cormier, gotta start doing pull overs to develope serratus interior
Yoh, this is the BOMB. My top 3 favorite bodybuilders are 1) Serge Nubret 2)Robby Robinson 3) Frank Zane. Man, his wife still looks good for her to be in her 70's; one of the original fitness/bikini competitors. I spoke to Frank Zane when I wanted to purchase his mind machine back in the 90's. Cool dude, man. Mad respect for these legends to get this OG on their podcast.
It's interesting to hear Chris talk about training and winning the Olympia. Ronnie used to sling the weight also. Dorian and Ronnie had completely different training Styles but both brought that gnarly hardness and density. I watched them both compete in their heyday. No question in my opinion Cormier structurally had all the tools to win that show if he could have put it all together. He never came in with that nasty peeled striated look though. I thought his best condition was his rookie debut at the Ironman when he got second to Vince Taylor. I was there.
You’re right brother not super pill, but also needed to train with Intensity. I was training with ego and lifting big weights zero Intensity that’s my fault for not understanding fully what my goal was as far as having someone in my corner to get that can teach me Intensity and tenacity.
Frank is a og off hardcore bodybuilding high day off 150g of carbs is awesome great show guys
Wow frank zane! And that waist which is 69.85cm btw guys! Insane! 🤣 thanks guys for the podc!
Really appreciate you guys having Zane on the podcast! One of the greatest of all time! Go FRANK 💪
So bad ass the A team guy Frank on!
The incredible Frank Zane!!! One of the best physiques of all time!
Chris needs to introduce himself to frank lmao, i mean wth who doesn't know chris?
😂
What a great show.Can listen to you,Miles and Chris all day long
I stumbled upon this podcast in January when I finally decided to get my fat ass to get back in shape and It’s become one of my favorite podcasts along with JRE. I’ve been able to lose 45lbs since then while building some muscle. Getting to see guys I grew up watching when I first started working out in HS shoot the shit is very entertaining and also very informative. Keep ‘em coming DJ.
That’s awesome 👏🏾
Frank is the best. He has some books that put most of the modern TH-cam guys out of business. The man was ahead of his time. Zane 79 was one of the best physiques ever. Thank you for the interview and the respect you have for him.
'Guys I've gotta go my wife is calling me." Come on Frank we want more stories!
Frank Zane it doesn’t get any better ❤
Serge Nubret, Bill Pearl, Bob Paris beg to differ
Old people are wiser! Frank doesn't talk too much, and he spills only valuable information. That delts exercise he mentioned with a slight hand twist to involve rear delts is a jewel of exercise. I did it and I am still doing it!
Lots of modern bodybuilders say the information was not available back then, the Information was there all time, the thing is, who could reach it!
Really good to see frank on some podcast. Be interesting to hear what his diet consisted of , and some REAL Arnold stories without missing out the best bits:)
He talked about his diet. Low carb, high protein, moderate fats. Carbs 50-100 grams a day on average pretty much year round. Fish, eggs, chicken and steak for protein.
Frank is so matter of fact in his words , love that about him.
UNBELIEVABLE podcast!! Thank you 🙏
Wow. Frank.
Milos words came directly from his heart.
ALWAYS
Milo's genuinely loves the sport
4 legends come together
The ifbb pitt convo put Zane to sleep...me too 😴
Awesome episode guys
I Like Your Prodcast It Would Be Great If You Can Have Paul Dillet On The Podcast
Frank is definitely a legend he brought conditioning
Dennnis needs to use the computer to bring pictures up from shows etc during the podcast … it will make for a better conversation among the guest
Wow... Zane himself. This one's gonna be good.
Nobody mentions Victor Martinez 2007
GREAT show - Love it! Hangin with the BOYZ!
Mike Mentzer SMOKED Arnold.. but the judges robbed him 😢
Yeah my country South Africa 🇿🇦, I remember watching all these old school guys on DVDs as they were here doing their bodybuilding stuff. I remember the last one to come here was Jay cutler. I know William Bonac came in around 2018 but it wasn't a bodybuilding contest showing.
Same thing happened to cormier against Jay like the same thing happend to Zane in 1980 against arnold...clear favouritism!!!!!
True what Chris said..you only have a window to be that guy, so don't waste it and get to work.
Christian those pictures you look phenomenal you were the clear winner
Frank gives off hippie grandpa vibes
Bob Paris has the look.. wouldn't want to any bigger than he was on stage.. him and Zane look the best .. they wouldn't have a chance in today's lineup.. yet this is why I won't use any gear because their looks are attainable for those with decent genes
Frank, you're too dry homeboy, Milos told you how much he admired you and you couldn't even reply with a simple thank you......
Great interview. My type of guest.
Most of the things Frank was saying has been known knowledge.
In the part where he said that Arnold stated that he's "the best bb in the world" After winning* the 1980 Olympia and then getting boo'd ,etc.
Thats one reaon why most of that footage was concealed/bought out . He and Weider didn't want any of that to be seen by gen pop.
Remember, this was gonna be a major televised contest. Camera crews everywhere.
And very little exist from before / after the show. Aside from a few clips of the competitors on stage .
DJ needs to bring zane back .other parts of the world the 70's ,80's guys are still our idols (carribbean/ Africa,South america) .we need more "" Tea"" from that era .how bt Tom platz ,next .thank you DJ ❤
Best classic physique in history
I dont understand Diet of Frank.
50g Carbs is about 200kcal
200g Protein is about 800kcal
50g fat is about 450kcal
That are 1450kcal
??????
Frank measured his body constantly and adjusted diet accordingly. Also spices and sauces add also energy.
I find it very hard to believe Frank consumed as little as 50 grams of Carbs a day in the off season.
@@odessafile75 people get too stuck on numbers here. He only gained 10 lbs so he didn't eat much. 50g was his contest prep number as I understood and maybe 100g of season. But he was low carb guy like most old schoolers.
@Raitzi In this interview he states he competed at about 190 lbs and never went over 200 lbs. In previous interviews articles he advised his competition weight varied between 180-200 lbs and he weighed anywhere from 200-210 off season and even once bulked up 220 lbs .
While Frank in comparison to most guys consumed less carbs and total calories it is difficult to believe he maintained his heavier bodyweight with as little as 100 g of carbs.
Can't wait for you to get Kai Greene on there and Shawn Ray on there by his self
46:45 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The format should be setup a little better to not make Frane feel left out lol. It would have been great to show pictures of the current pros to Frank so he could give his opinions. Great episode though! Love learning new stuff
Well Dennis knows already who is winning the O, like his Ramy Predictions..lol
Soon as milos turned up and saw Zane i knew this was gonna be a deep one
great seeing Frank, but sometimes you guys go on tangents, leaving your guests lagging or in Frank’s case, napping.. mind you he’s in his 80s
A suggestion would be to cover your other topics first, then save the rest of the show EXCLUSIVELY to your guest
Zane nodding out had me laughing so hard I think I popped a rib
Wow!!!! Frank Zane!!!! Oh! He wasn't very talkative, was he!
Great show!
Why did you guys make this old man stand up for over an hour? And stop stumping these old timers by asking them questions about present day bodybuilders. Respect your elders lol
Great show
The guys are interrogating him😅,
Great Podcast.
Lol Frank telling Milos not everyone would wanna look like him was funny, my dad is franks age, no nonsense generation
He was being modest...
Everyone would want to look like him...even if they don't publicly admit it...😉
Live forever Frank Zane!!!💪💪💪
The first time i saw Chris interested on someone. 😂
please bring frank back and pick his brain about Jerry Brainium and the golden era
Its easy to Say Derek or Nick can win, when your just looking at off season... But when they get on stage they lose all that fullness in there legs and they are left with decent side and rear shots.. but whats all that to 2 giants like Samson and Andrew if they come conditioned and full... they are taller and more aesthic and may not have the best backs they have enough to win and even expose the shorter bodybuilders.. Hadi has a better shot against Samson and Andrew then Derek or Nick.. those guys are more popular on Social Media.. doesnt make them better then Samson or Drew. I will admit in offseason they look untouchable
Did ya realize frank was standing this whole time 😮
Imo 90s had the best physiques in bbing history, but guys from the 70s, is the era that I would wanto train/ live the lifestyle the most, it seemed like everyone was there for the love of the game, and everyone was having fun/ a brotherhood
Dennis and Chris are jumping on the Derek's lunsford bandwagon
Actually, I have very good eyes for this sport and this guy is and has the goods to do but I’m my opinion he has never mailed his condition in yet ever since he won his pro card never looked that good again yet
Don't get me wrong I think you guys are great but I think you're giving him too much credit they had everyone waiting 3 hours bro let's see the Olympia do this s*** right as far as how much room the athletes have what time they go on stage I just think you guys a little bit premature he's not really doing anything but training for this Olympia which I wish the rest of the guys would do for some guys have to do contest to qualify
Derks waist is so small as long as he keeps that mid section good he's golden
The judge Zane was referring to is Dennis Stallard of Wales.
Legend.Servus,Thanks for this GREAT Video and the history lesson.Wasn't Chet Norton the third bodybuilder who beats Arnold?😎👍💪
Chet Yorton beat Arnold at the 1966 Nabba Amateur Mr Universe.
@@odessafile75 Super, Thanks 😎👍💪
Samson's going to be big and if he brings that Ronnie Coleman condition it's lights out
Frank can handle 50carb a day bc he wasn’t 280 off-season. He was 210 maybe.
I love the “we’re not judging poses, we’re judging overall.” Then right to. “What are shows won from, the back”. So what is it. Overall. Back poses. Or all poses?? Lmao. Hadi is superior until Derek brings condition. It will be very close though, until Derek brings it. Then it’s over.
Mohammed Makahway
Makkawy would be an excellent guest. I saw him at a gym opening in 1981 and he looked incredible
I saw him at the 84 Olympia, very deep cuts Phenomenal Physique
tom platz next
Wtf i also live in el cajon to chris comier i knew zane lived in la mesa but dam i didnt know the legend lived in my city o grew up in
Samson did contest so you expect him to look like he's going to win the mr. Olympia and he's an offseason right now