Hey man ! I want to learn to play mage(Frost and Fire) in PvP and I am wondering if it is easier to learn and be good at PvP as a mage in Retail OR in Cataclysm. I mean where is the PvP ceiling higher. I mainly play 2v2 arenas (not 3v3) and battlegrounds
@@myinbox8125 Learn it on classic first since it has higher skillcap, then carry over to retail where skillcap is little to none atm. Smoother transition. Edit: Anyone who tries to deny Cata having way higher skillcap than free-glad-mode-if-you-just-play-meta-on-retail, you're coping & your weeweepp is smol. I don't make the rules. It's just canon. Venruki has said it himself and MANY other familiar glads out there, Cata-MoP's pvp had the highest skillcap in WoW history. Some may say wotlk but nah, just nah. So. I'm right. Sorry.
@@plague6174I thought it’s the opposite lol. I think it’s easier for me since the game in Cata expansion is a bit slower, less classes etc.I am mostly interested in fire mage too. Is fire easier to learn compared to frost in cataclysm ?
@@Gatar47858 fire has less CC and less Defensive (due to Iceblock being resetable from Frost only talent) , Frost is more forgiving IMO , give Frost a try first reforge everything into mastery(Frost-Mastery, Fire-Crit), it worked back then for me.
It’s funny how pros always cry about things but they are the reason why there’s so many addons becuse they always look for the advantage tbh I just feel like gladius is the only necessary add on
I wish reckful was here to play cata classic
for real... byron forever the goat of WoW. forever will be missed.
He is playing, in the hearts of all the pvpers that knew him.
Im sure he’s watching from above ❤
He’s not
@@danripp93 nobody cares about your opinion
it's cool to see people not get oneshot or die in 1.5sek when they are 100% health. it looks so much more tactical and logical
You are seeing cleave and dots comp that’s why
You will think differently after watching some ret comps lmao
Exactly !
Love seeing the old "new" stuff. Won't have time to play myself but fun to see! Don't listen to the haters
imagine just trying to conquest cap and you get ven and supa in your lobby lol.
Imagine taking a satire seriously lol.
don´t u have way too little crit in the beginning of s9 for fire to be viable?
You had mage armor on during hex at 11:39. Mage armor should reduce magic effects by 35% so why did you get the full hex?
Hex is a curse, not a magic effect
What addon show spells on health bar above ?
Hey man ! I want to learn to play mage(Frost and Fire) in PvP and I am wondering if it is easier to learn and be good at PvP as a mage in Retail OR in Cataclysm. I mean where is the PvP ceiling higher. I mainly play 2v2 arenas (not 3v3) and battlegrounds
If you learn either it will translate to the other
@@myinbox8125ok ! But maybe is cata is a bit easier for me to grasp as a new mage ?
@@myinbox8125 Learn it on classic first since it has higher skillcap, then carry over to retail where skillcap is little to none atm. Smoother transition.
Edit: Anyone who tries to deny Cata having way higher skillcap than free-glad-mode-if-you-just-play-meta-on-retail, you're coping & your weeweepp is smol. I don't make the rules. It's just canon. Venruki has said it himself and MANY other familiar glads out there, Cata-MoP's pvp had the highest skillcap in WoW history. Some may say wotlk but nah, just nah. So. I'm right. Sorry.
@@plague6174I thought it’s the opposite lol. I think it’s easier for me since the game in Cata expansion is a bit slower, less classes etc.I am mostly interested in fire mage too. Is fire easier to learn compared to frost in cataclysm ?
@@Gatar47858 fire has less CC and less Defensive (due to Iceblock being resetable from Frost only talent) , Frost is more forgiving IMO , give Frost a try first reforge everything into mastery(Frost-Mastery, Fire-Crit), it worked back then for me.
Breaks my heart I’m too old to play this shit now
why would u be too old to play it? have u become so slow?^^ how old are u?
He's so oppressive on that mage.
imagine crying abt retail that you need addons and in old xpacs you dont. here you are screen full of addons. cringe
It’s funny how pros always cry about things but they are the reason why there’s so many addons becuse they always look for the advantage tbh I just feel like gladius is the only necessary add on
Can’t believe this dude was ever considered a r1 mage. Tough watch