J. Krishnamurti - Saanen 1978 - Public Talk 7 - If you are not occupied, are you nothing?
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- Saanen 1978 - Public Talk 7 - If you are not occupied, are you nothing?
Summary:
You cannot possibly look objectively, without any direction and motive if you are consumed with your own importance, ambitions and problems.
We have divided sleeping and waking, which may be entirely wrong. We have never inquired into the state of the mind that is not sleeping.
Why is the mind occupied so endlessly?
Can you be nothing, that which you actually are?
Humility comes into being when you understand the nature of power.
The movement of meditation is to live in daily life without measurement. The movement of thought is measure.
What is awareness and what is attention?
When you put everything in order there is no effort.
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"Why has everything become a problem?" - Beautiful.
life is a river or a tree so beautiful when you have no desire to anderstand it because that desire to understand is spoiling the moment.
i opened a restaurant in hawaii in 95' with the guy who cut J's hair in Ojai...He said this man, this incredible expression of a man was
absolute joy to be around...almost 30 yrs later, this message is as pure with intent as the first time...how i react to it is the only thing...
the only thing
Love you sir with respect
What we are is what we create. The word “I” is a creation. We are creators creating. ❤
I thing we are first observers and then creators. 😊
This video is so underrated, it punches your ego in the face. Precious.
Glad i could join you
Your making a statement is also ego.
Mine reaction as well.
Burn Ego Burn
@@sanchitmanhas8661 day
@@sanchitmanhas8661 you also don’t know this, you believe this, you were told this. However you can feel the pressure to the Ego.
This was the concentrated wisdom of human ego poured down into 1.5hr video
This is precious than anything, the summary of mankind put into words
1:21:47 "That attention may last 2 mins or 5 seconds...but don't go back & say 'I must be attentive.' Attention came because you knew what it means. From a deep understanding, not intellectual, of what attention is. It came naturally. But if you say 'I must have constant attention throughout the day', then you're being terribly greedy. Then it's no longer attention. It's a desire to have something which you call 'attention'."
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That is so true, I feel a strong desire to keep the attention ..
Wanting attention is inattention.
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Without our many occupations during the day we are absolutely nothing, nothing! Can you feel this tremendous energy of freedom which then arises? I love ❤️ this Speech of Krishnaji , which is so true!
no one else like you SIR. falling short of words.I am speachless.
A marvelous explanation of religion ever i have read or heard my heartful proname to the greatest teacher of the age
Such a great gift to humanity
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Marvelous!! Awesome his capacity to condensate in the last minutes the inmensurable. 👌👏👍❤️❤️❤️
"Direct perception and action, NOT perception, then later on action, which only creates a problem. The insight into any problem... It's only from moment to moment. When it happens, there's an insight into it, there's action in it and -- resolve." 35:07
"There is tremendous energy in nothingness." 56:30
Thanks for making this available to us.
I wish if I could meet him in person. The explanation is so simple, and straightforward that still it's easy to understand the current situation of human mind. And it's effect on life.
His honesty and integrity is just 🔥🔥🔥
Mediation can not be rightly defined in words.
But,Krishnaji has perfectly implied it. What a great talent !! 👌👌💐
Great Talent .. really ?? That’s what you could find for him ??
@@hemantkhare5545 if you've got nothing worth saying then don't say it at all. That's meditation and you should learn it. Does the ego a great deal of good!
This man is extraordinary 👍❤️
J Krishnamurti Speeches Change My Whole Life.....🙏🙏How Real Man He was....
First we learn to be someone - then its so hard to become no-body again to live in peace...
It seems
When looking at things as a problem. You begin to problame yourself subconsciously. Instead view it as a prosolve and a solution will present itself.
What Krishnamurti says about measurement is wonderful, very meaningful.
Thank you
If you have a problem you can't see. No more and no less.
Motive will dictate the answer of the problem. Yes! That's how we create our reality.. your intent matters. Matters of the heart .
Beautiful!! Meditative!!
Thank you for this precious lecture. It tremendous wisdom.
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ without words. Just love from my heart to jk.
Thank for all the videos uploaded! And sharing the very precious wisdom !
Thank you for providing us such wonderful true line
Love is “choiceless”
And immortal. Unconditioned. Beyond words, knowledge intelligence and time, all of which creates "the me". Is it possible for a human to tap into that state?
He is tourch bearer of many enlighten master before him and after him
wholesome Video From Beginning To End
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I THANK YOU SIR FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART.
when i listened to jk my thoughts automatically vanishes .
By saying it i…..meaning the contrary…
Thank you for this video.
Just an advice: If you can't be completely empty from everything, maintain being occupied in one single thing. You can do both on the same day, but not at the same moment.
Another advice: It is difficult to be completely empty from thought. Begin by being empty from unwanted thoughts. That is much easier and equally helpful.
Beautiful ; pinpoint insight into human travails .
Thank you !
AMAZING ❤️
I love him so much
Thanks
Good Guides 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Amazing being
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I think this is the one video to watch, if you only watch one K video.
"test this, if you accept this you will become a disciple, then you will become utterly useless."
Destruction & Construction in a single line.
He left us with the truth ."Silence"
What he means by sleep brings order: You have to forget. Not like forgetting the whole problem, you must learn from it! Like sleep, the knowledge drawn from understanding is still there, but neither the problem nor the knowledge matters, unless the knowledge is helpful again. As he says: Who wants WILLINGLY to be be jealous? Just don't be it anymore. All bad and good habits have their origin, don't be afraid of the truth. If you find them and it, you can do something about it. Become someone new at each moment, at each moment a better version.
Attention means to have a completely quiet mind, to be free from any judgement, silent. Attention works only if you don't make any effort to be it, on the contrary, if you forget effortlessly the me, then it comes and goes.
I wish you it comes to you.
😌😌😌no words , if we don’t see it or resist it truth is revealed by itself when we got great shock which I had and long for 1.5 yrs with full of energy like you mind will blow out at any seconds but it’s a blessing honestly Natures is full of compassion and from that compassion it’s reveals the truth ,insight is instant it can’t be practiced 🥹🥹🥹❤️❤️❤️🙌🙌
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Look at each problem new! Have insight! Resolve correspondingly.
Don't waste energy! Then you have a lot more.
It is incredible what one can learn from the wise master, who never wanted to be a teacher because it spoils the whole thing. Learning from J. K. means learning to look at one's own problems and get insight into MY problems and immediately a set of solutions from which one can always choose the best. Not fighting, the insight tells you possible solutions. It hasn't to be perfect but it is always as good as you can. Be happy to perform at your maximum! Humanwise, not economic wise.
Either we are in thinking and thought w/ words, ideas, concepts; which is stored memory knowledge and of the past, or there is pure sensorium. Pure sensorrum is crystal clear awareness and is direct contact w/ the maximum experience of reality in the eternal NOW. That is all that is possible. It is one or the other. Choose wisely. Do not be stupid and turn this into another mental trap. It's not that difficult.
in western like greece they 1st democracy and group discussion there
in that they come to conclusion past present and future (in that they measure ) by measuring they predict thought of present and future by differnt people
in MEDITATION:« The movement of meditation is: to live in a daily life without measurements » .. 👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆
so profound & clear AND ALSO WE CAN CALM THE MIND WE GET PEACE
ATTENTION :
AWARENESS:
CONCENTRATION: JK EXPLAIN AWESOME
26:00 state of disorder continues during sleep
The whole point is , ifwe are with problem and i am all the time then actually in hours 24 in a day i am doing nothing means whatever happen due to my mind and why i am in pain because i am not happy with me or say with my mind then means mind also not doing things the way practicality , then for what actually mind taking that much of stress and anxiety even though things are not fruitful , meanswgen mind is free means faculities are available ad ego means thought process of past is silent means mind silent , then only karm yoga happen means actually compete work happen , and there is not a doing its just happening through faculties and there is no i but a completion of i or a seer may be which is actually not individual the whole meaning of ay dharma , and only then human can be happy in my case i can only be happy in that way other wise mind is chatter all the way of life and whrn i try ro understand before it actually realize what i am lisening inside what is called my egonif it is real or if it is actually for now atleast and i can actuallh live this moment happily but due to past thought and due to ravange though upon that thoughts actually make me vanularale then who i a actually is still i a seer but helpless seer the mind is everything we can do correct it all this and it also not correct just by saying it if it attach with that , attachement is nit just about words or thoughts it actually deep hardwired in nervous system and trigger even with pin drop sound or smell or whatever it is so subtle to strugger and due to that it seems like miracle within body ad seems separate from ourelf or we see outer world separate from ourself atleast at instant time when we are looking it without deep insight, other wise pain can be vanish by getting away and it also happen change the place mood change bu there aslo trick mind can be rigidly involved or prtially involved
Nicely explained, very deep thinking 😴
Please next time use paragraphs 🙏
just thoughts . nothing else
BENDICION ETERNA
9:43. When you follow you deny your own investigation, exploration into truth.
Try to put the link of related playlist in description...
Message @10 minutes, the only way to lead your life
Has anyone else noticed that in every video this poor man makes there's always a airplane that flies over?
probably the clowns following the message, not to get the message
but to 'capture' the message and then what?
they will never know, poor souls
@@maxalwaysgoesbyboat7715 that's beautiful, only to capture it and then not even ever knowing what to do with it, god bless them.
Thanks 💕 , it's really mysterious of course , reality really being utterly funny over and over again, leela it's all a leela.
😂yes
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1:06:00 must watch
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Meditation is absenc of self.
Krishnamurti qui parla di ordine. A cosa si riferisce, cosa deve essere tutto in ordine....? C' e' qualche video che parla di questo? Grazie
When he says order, he means no conflict internally. If there is any problem or difficult situation, to deal with that in that moment completely and not carry it in future. Disorder is when we carry the problem in the mind and analyze it later. For example, if there is anger in mind. And the 'me' tries to resolve this issue of anger, then there is always a conflict between the me and it's attempt to control the anger. This constant conflict in our daily living is disorder.
Why is it black and white of it was uploaded 4 years ago
Uploaded 4 years ago not recorded 4 years ago
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49:58 Occupied mind
....but why is it so hard to live like that?
It is not hard. The mind makes it hard with contradictory ideas, trying to explain or analyse things, theorising etc…
In reality it’s simple.
The fear of being nothing is tremendous. It feels like a death sentence. Everything you currently are and are striving for, dying and ending. I, personally, am terrified of that possibility.
What does he mean with putting everything in the right place, putting everything in the right order? He talked briefly about putting money, sex,.. in the right order. Does it mean, giving everything the right amount of attention. Not more or less than that we should give it? Or does he moreso mean, to see the UNimportance of the pursuits of these things, to not give these things any importance at all? Can someone help me with that.
Yes, you put it pretty well, right amount of attention ❤ and do it daily, it gets easier ❤cause everything affects each other, especially on the psychological level.
What Krishnamurti is saying is real...I dropped religion as a kid cause i found it completely absurd. Then I read sth like ...those people who want power but dont get to the government, find their second spot in religion. But the feeling that I get after deep sleep is natural peace and depth ...that is invitation to the depth of out of this world...when one understands two worlds of body and spirit, life gets easier. You can not die...its impossible. Gautamas father was right ! :D
But you can perceive change as death .
Then why body doesn't move after someone dies?
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How would you "approach" the problem in Ukraine with a family dying of dehydration amongst the rubble. . K says u approach all problems without a motive. So how do you solve this without desiring hydration a motive.
Here K is referring to psychological motive. There is a need of end objective when dealing with a problem, like eradication of poverty. But if the 'me' is seeking any form of gratification or happiness or peace by helping others, then it is a psychological motive. Can there be an action from a place of love or compassion, where there is no psychological motive.
Problem is you act. But your action will arise from love and compassion.
The cause of many problems is motive. If USA had approached the issue without any motive of expanding the NATO all this problems in Ukraine would not have occurred.
Suffering is the only fact there is. Living with that fact with grace and humility is not an easy state to achieve. Living with this fact, not complaining about it, which is a wrong use of energy, then another energy must appear from that sorrow and that's the energy of compassion. You act. The actions you do now, however small it may seem, has huge affects on all of existence, because deep deep down, far far in, you'll see you're not separate from existence, like in a box, you're the very fabric of the box itself. What that fabric does changes the whole box in its entirety.
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Thank you
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