It was rare to have an "arcade perfect" anything back in the 90s, unless you owned a Neo Geo or X68000 or whatever. Comments such as "arcade wins" are stating the bleeding obvious. Of course the arcade was better. That was never the point for us who bought the PSX at launch. We were comparing it to the SNES and Megadrives we were upgrading from. It was an amazing upgrade.
Arcade perfect on 3D in the mid nineties was impossible to deliver on PS1 and Saturn, but I remember Mortal Kombat trilogy as astonishing and really perfect on my PS1, despite the loading times and the PS1 not so good on 2D as the Saturn
parazels83 The 60fps Ridge Racer is pretty fantastic. Love that they also put production notes into it describing everything that was done to achieve it
Order Of Magnitude - The Paranormal & Personal Well, while Namco was fighting for 60FPS, they were still held by the PlayStation’s limitations... Makes sense.
@@stutheironman VERY interesting. I had forgotten about that. I'm going to searc -- okay I just checked and I do have it. Copying it over and going to play it in the morning! ridge racer bonus turbo mode disc (usa).chd
When you compare those two, the arcade-version has many more CPU-cars, higher resolution, progressive scan, more detailed polygon models, higher draw distance, higher resolution textures and (at least IMO) a much better color-scheme. So it's still no contest, but it shows that they improved on the PS somewhat, but it's more a like a tech demo with only 2 CPU cars.
The frame rate and resolution was lower with the PS1 port, but nevertheless, the home port of Ridge Racer was an astonishing, ground breaking conversion for the time, and the first killer app for the machine. No home console could throw around 3D graphics as effectively prior to the PS1.
+The Sauber C9 Guy Animations Well, Ridge Racer was the first racing game in 3D, and the PSX was the first game console to use 3D graphics, which was why the Namco development thought "Hey, why not port this game to consoles?" Also, there was a High-Spec re-release of this game, called Ridge Racer Turbo. It ran at 60fps, just like the arcade game. The difference is that races in Turbo are always one-on-one, and Free Run was added, allowing you to freestyle the course by yourself. The Kamata Angelus from Revolution was also another boss added that will challenge you to a race, taking the Soldat Crinale's place.
Marcus Davis You're very wrong about Ridge Racer being the first 3D racing game. And the Playstation was NOT the first 3D (polygonal) home console. You need to learn your video game history!!!
I love that feature as well because not only can you listen to your own custom music but you can share the game with a friend by loading it on his system..
Back when these games were new, we'd play them in the arcade then get the PSX version at home and didn't really know there was any difference, bar having a seat, pedals and wheel. It's good to see this side by side, that there were in fact compromises for the PS version. And still, this appears to be one of the most impressive 3D arcade ports ever.
i used to play Ridge Racer Revolution back in the day on PS1 and i finished the whole game without even knowing you could drift, i only found out in the last few months that drifting was possible lol
@DaNes200581 but i'm finishing the first 2 tracks without hitting the walls and obstacle , i'm not using drift , the only car i'm using was red green one , you can finish 1st lap at 49 seconds without hitting anything.
All I'm seeing in the comments is 'Arcade has better graphics' this and 'Arcade runs at 60fps' that. Yeah, no shit that the arcade version is smoother and more visually impressive. You all seem to be forgetting some important things: 1. Arcade cabinets are designed to play one, I repeat ONE particular game, whereas consoles are designed to play multiple different games. 2. The Playstaion port of Ridge Racer is a launch title, in face it's the VERY first PS game. At this stage Namco was literally starting to learn how to program games for it so of course they couldn't bring this port anywhere near it's arcade counterpart. 3. Isn't the whole point of the video to see how well the PS version holds up to the arcade version rather than to see which is visually superior? Does anyone else feel the same way or am I alone on this one?
It’s actually really annoying, but think of the type of people who’re posting that negative trash here. Then they try to slip “PC vs Console” into the argument... smh
1) Thats not true. There were/are many arcade systems playing many different games. Some of them over the course of several years. On (Super) System 22, there were like a dozen games released. 2) If you put out a learning factor in favour of the PS-Port, you have to do so for the arcade-verson as well. You're forgetting they had to learn to make games for System 22 too. Of course, there was the Ridge Racer Prototye "Sim Drive", so they had a small amount of experience when making RR for the arcade (which happened under a lot release date-pressure btw); but it was the same team converting the arcarde-version to the PlayStation, so they had some experience in this game now. So it wasnt completely new for em either. 3) That depends. Back then, a LOT of magazines used to glorify the PS1-Version as "arcade-perfect" (same magazines that used to bash the Dreamcast-version of VF3 as not arcade-perfect while it actually was to 99%!). But it's simply no contest, honestly. The Arcarde-Version of Ridge Racer pushed 8 times (!) the pixel count of the PS-Version (4x resolution at 2x framerate) while pushing far more polygons (round corners instead of blocky, more detailed cars, more details/buildings etc. round the track), had better draw distance, more direct steering with less input-lag, higher color depth, perspective correct texture mapping, less graphical glitches, a higher texture resolution and texture filtering. I still remember playing it in the arcade as a kid loving it to death, and how disappointed i was when i played the home version the first time. Course, Namco still did a good job with the port (and it also had to be done quickly), no argument there. Only for an "arcade perfect port" it just was not the same experience as in the arcade. Not at all.
Every arcade looked better in those days but Ridge Racer was the closest anyone had seen to the Arcade experience at home for a driving game in 1994. Now that I can play both side by side on the same size screen, it's amazing how little differences there were between the PS1 version and the multi-thousand dollar coin-op.
Sure, arcade version is the best, but Namco also developed a Turbo mode for the PS1 version in 99, a demo disc with few Namco demos and an optimized Ridge Racer that could run very close as the arcade version. The main difference in there is the static 60fps framerate in the turbo mode.
Man, those System 22 graphics look sharp and bright! Still the PSX port looks very impressive. At the time this was top notch. I had such great times with ridge racer
Yeah dat multiplayer in Daytona was damn incredible. Arcades like like 8 Daytona machines connected together for massive multiplayer. SOOOOO ahead of its time without a doubt
@@SuperShinobi76 No way, always loved the look and feel of Ridge racer more, hands down! Daytona was just boring stock cars....Ridge Racer was pure driving action! The only reason I feel Daytona was more popular in the US because of the "USA" in the title and the fact the cars crashed. People love that stuff. One of the things Ridge Racer should have had were cars flipping over, but hey, RR wasn't about that....it was about driving your car.
segundo jogo que eu vi rodando em um playstation quando eu o vi pela primeira vez em uma locadora em um distante 1996... o primeiro foi tekken 1 ,o curioso é que pelas fotos das revistas eu pensava que o console era muito maior e os cds eram aqueles gigantes conhecidos como LDs até hoje me lembro que o dono fez uma cambiarra de deixar o console rodando o jogo com a tampa aberta e eu vi o cdzinho rodando fiquei assombrado nuca tinha visto um console cd antes e o cara ainda fez aquilo !! e ainda ele fez rodar este jogo com um cd de musica dance ,lembro até a musica era "Run Away" do Real mccoy.era emoção demais pra um moleque de 13 anos,só um êxtase semelhante quanto o puto meses depois trouxe Resident evil eeu o vi rodando no mesmo console ,aí eu pirei de vez...
Arcade looks cleaner. But the PlayStation version is otherwise a very faithful port. At that point in time in 1995 it was pretty much unheard of to be able to play games like this on a home console. But PlayStation made it a reality, certainly more so than the Saturn did. That first year the PlayStation just blew the Saturn away
+Allie-RX Well, there was a 60FPS Ridge Racer tech demo disc included with Ridge Racer R4 called Ridge Racer Turbo, but the downside is that there's only 1 A.I. car on the course and only two soundtracks.
Arcade version of Ridge Racer : $11,995.00 Launch PSX : $299 + Ridge Racer $40-50 I did not feel in any way a loser getting to own and play Ridge Racer at home in the mid '90s!
Mike Hunt Well yeah if you wanted to buy the whole arcade cabinet for yourself. Most of us just went a local arcade or pizzeria and inserted just 2 quarters to play the game. Plus there's a thing called MAME.
Allie-RX Agree, and I could clearly see the arcade was superior. But like I say the feeling of having it at home was just amazing, even if I knew full well it was inferior even back then :)
It's actually quite impressive how close to the arcade version the PS1 port is. Literally the only noticeable differences are that the PS1 port has slightly less advance lighting, slightly downscaled textures and runs at exactly half the resolution and framerate. In every other way, both versions play and sound pretty much *exactly* the same! If only Sega could have pulled that off in the original Saturn port of Daytona USA...
BlueDragon992 That simply wasn't possible regarding Daytona. A $15,000 dollar state of the art arcade machine vs a $399 home console. The reason the RR port to PS1 is so close is because there isn't much difference in graphical capability between the System 22 & PS1 (not including framerate or resolution). Now compare the model II to Saturn and the difference is HUGE. Daytona USA CCE on Saturn is graphically and framerate wise what the original Saturn release of Daytona should have been. Apart from the still rather ridiculous draw distance it looked much closer to RR on PS1.
The Arcarde-Version of Ridge Racer pushed 8 times (!) the pixel count of the PS-Version (4x resolution at 2x framerate) while pushing far more polygons (round corners instead of blocky, more detailed cars, more details/buildings etc. round the track), had better draw distance, higher color depth, perspective correct texture mapping, less graphical glitches and a higher texture resolution/more texture variety. Double framerate also means less input lag and more direct steearing for gameplay.
@@yukatoshi Namco System 22 is completely different than the PS1. The 22 was the first arcade system to have textured polygons before the Model 2. Similar to how Sega partner with Lockheed Martin to create the Model 2, Namco partnered with Evans & Sutherland, which mainly created military flight simulators at the time. While not as advanced as the Model 2, the 22 was superior to the PS1 in every way. The Daytona port could have been done better but the Saturn was a pain in the ass to develop for. Sega was never able to get the draw distance far enough in their Saturn racing games. While Namco the only pop-in we're back ground objects, while the tracks themselves never pop-in. Also the full scale cabinet of Ridge Raced with 3 large TVs and a car was $250,000.
Namco did a good job converting RR from the expensive, powerful System 22 to a consumer console that cost $300. There is pop-up and a 30 FPS frame rate, but the port plays well and looks good in motion. Being able to select other cars is a nice extra.
It's pretty insane how the hi spec Ridge Racer demo bundled with Ridge Racer Type 4 at the end of 1998 looks comparable to the arcade version. It only runs with one opponent but all the same, it's an amazing version and shows how far Namco's understanding of the Playstation hardware came in just four years. System 22 still wins since it was a highly expensive cutting edge arcade board but after a few years and tricks the PS1 hardware was pushed to the limit, the final games looked amazing compared to the launch titles.
"It only runs with one opponent but all the same" - not true. Compared to hi-spec, the arcade-version not only has many more CPU-cars, but also a higher resolution, progressive scan, more detailed polygon models, higher draw distance, higher resolution textures and (at least IMO) a much better color-scheme.
@@pgr3290 I know... why should anyone think otherwise? ;) I was merely referring to that "all the same"-statement after it. They are not the same even if you disregard the CPU-cars.
psx version is so much more pixelated than the arcade version, it's crazy. At the time sony boasted of having made a good port, but by comparing we realize the enormous difference in terms of aliasing.
Double the resolution, double the framerate, perspective correct textures, no noticeable popup. The arcade is superior of course. And it achieved all this with Motorola 68020 and special video hardware.
Arcade looks so smooth.... PS1 version while ok was not as good as the arcade, which was to be expected. The 60fps re-release "bonus game" lacked the numerous in race competitors - with 1 on 1 max only races. Nice building pop-in at 1:12 ;-)
I enjoy both version's for what they are and play both here. Arcade is what you'd expect while home port offers and expands the genre abit more. Play both here!
Esse Arcade roda num hardware de pouca coisa melhor do que um Playstation stock. Aliás isso vale para todos os jogos da Namco para Playstation. E também jogos de várias outras empresas que aproveitavam o hardware barato e potente do console para a época para montar suas placas de arcade. E isso facilitava e muito o trabalho em uma conversão.
sim, é verdade. mas uma placa de Arcade da Namco custava um trocado, essas placas da Sega eram uma fortuna. E qualquer empresa que se preze tem que pensar no retorno financeiro que terá. A Sega nunca foi muito boa nisso, não à toa está reduzida ao que está hoje.
como não tem nada a ver? o modelo de negócios da Namco era mais lucrativo. Não interessa se a Sega convertia bem jogos e o escambau. Não estou falando de jogos.
Não é verdade. Ridge racer roda no system 22, e era bem superior ao ps1. a placa a qual vc se refere é o system 11, que é um ps1 com o dobro de ram de video. Após o lançamento de tekken no system 11, a maioria dos jogos da namco foram lançados pra o system 11, e a partir de certo ponto, para o system 12, como tekken3. O system 12 ainda era baseado no ps1, mas com mais memoria e processadores 50% mais rapidos.
There was a 60 FPS demo version of Ridge Racer 1 released alongside Ridge Racer Type 4 on the Playstation. You know what? I should have looked at the previous comments before assuming i'd be the first to mention that...
andyukmonkey It wasn’t a demo though. Although the disc DID include the original Ridge Racer on it, so you could tell the difference between it and Turbo Mode...
Arcade is like twice as fast with what look like a 60fps steady and the anti-aliasing makes it the obvious winner.. There is a 60fps version of Ridge Racer on a 2nd disc of RR4 for those interested.
PSX lacked perspective correction and had to fix it tesselating the initial triangles, thus the wobbly textures. But added really no aditional detail, a pity
WINNER: ARCADE. The arcade version runs at a much smoother framerate, has higher resolution, and higher texture quality. The PS1 version is still a pretty good conversion, though. People in the 32-bit era often compared "the good Ridge Racer port to the PS1" to "the bad Daytona USA port to the Saturn." But, it is important to remember Daytona USA running on the Model 2 Arcade Hardware was far superior to the Ridge Racer arcade game, so it was a much more difficult port. Also, Daytona USA Remix on the Saturn was a very good port, so Saturn did win in the end - it's just it was too late from a sales perspective.
Yeah, but it still doesn't take away from the fact Ridge Racer was FAR FAR superior to Daytona USA at home visually and gameplay wise. I still remember the perfect 5/5's from gamepro for RR stating how it blows Daytona out of the water....Daytona receiving like 4's, 4.5's. Daytona played like under 30fps dipping to like 20's even while Ridge Racer ran at a very steady 30fps at all times. And at arcades, daytona was not FAR better. They were both technically impressive. I will always prefer the look and art style of Ridge Racer. It was just a much more fun game to me.
@@CJTranceAddiction You are correct that Ridge Racer on the PS1 looked better than Daytona on the Saturn. However, that had more to do with Daytona looking like garbage than it did with Ridge Racer actually looking special. The remix of of Daytona on the Saturn actually looked better than the Ridge Racer games on the PS1, but by then the sales war was over. Sega really dropped the ball with the Saturn.
@@DJDanceClassic The person named "sega lord x" is out of his/her mind. The entire reason why the Saturn game called "Daytona USA" was re-released as "Daytona USA Championship Circuit Edition" was because the graphics were an improvement of night and day.
Ridge Racer on the Playstation ran at 30 frames per second. Many of the dumb Playstation fans out there in the PS5 era think that is a bad thing. But its not. It means you are getting the maximum number of polygons per frame that the hardware allows. At 60 frames per second, you can only display half as much polygon detail per frame. And at 120 frames per second - which very few TV sets have the ability to do - you can only display 25% as much polygon detail per frame (which means the graphics may be "smooth," but they will lack detail).
The PS RR was a strange experience for me. After the crushing disappointment of Saturn Daytona USA, the port of RR was arguably more competent, but far, FAR from arcade perfect and still a bummer for me. Don't get me wrong, the core gameplay was there, it played practically like the arcade original (albeit with a controller). I just to accept that these new consoles could not replicate the high-end arcade experience. Once I came around with more realistic expectations, I enjoyed the game. I also enjoyed Saturn Daytona USA. Come next Xmas, I warmed up immediately to Saturn Sega Rally and Ridge Racer Revolution. Some games like VF2 and Virtua Cop exceeded my expectations in terms of high-end arcade conversions.
Ridge Racer on PS1 was one of the first games I played on the system. I thought it was arcade perfect? Guess not. I have the MAME version of it to finally realize PS1 wasn't that close.
Much better port than what the Saturn could deliver with its Daytona port. One of the main reasons why Sony got a headstart at launch in convincing people to go for the PlayStation instead of the Saturn. Oh, and the $299 mic-drop as well.
Taí mais um jogo famoso que nunca joguei :P Como eu sei que você vai perguntar qual eu gostei rsrsrs Eu vi pontos interessantes em ambos: no arcade o gráfico é mais polido e a movimentação mais suave, no Playstation me agradou a sensação de velocidade. Se o arcade for gabinete com pedal e volante fico com ele rsrs.
+LGD Retrogamer o gabinete da versão arcade é o que mostrei no inicio do video (com volante, pedal e marcha) , acho que todos os jogos de carros eram assim nos arcades, menos os de neo geo, q se não me engano, só tem 2 ou 3 jogos de corridas ao todo :P (além de 1 jogo ruim de moto)
Arcade version looked and played well for the time but the PlayStation version was always a huge letdown. By the time of R4 they had managed to tweak the original to get it to finally run at 60fps but with only 1 competitor it was to little to late for me.
What always irritated me was not the limitation against the Arcade ..but why didnt Namco make the colours closer to the arcade..lighter asphalt, a little brighter overall ... You know like we see hacks of roms for Genesis this could get so much closer to the arcade that way.. just colour palette change ..
A versão do Playstation acho muito boa, apesar da jogabilidade do carro ser muito dificil e bem arisca (talvez se tivessem lançado o analogico na epoca do lançamento do jogo, melhoraria). Mas prefiro o do Arcade. Em relaçao a comparar ao video passado, no console prefiro o Ridge Racer e no Arcade o Daytona USA.
would love to see a comparison of the arcade ridge racer vs ridge racer 64 - rr64 was a lot closer to the arcade in terms of visual fidelity, plus all of the tracks got a makeover in that one.
Frozen Retro ! spoken like someone who has likely barely played any games on the n64 but ok. RR64 was by far the best ridge racer game of that console generation, even though i love the playstation games as well.
Sorry, i cannot agree. the N64 Ridge Racer was okay, but the mountain makeover wasn't very pretty, specially considering the time it came out. And the controls were altered too, since it came out after rage racer and RR type 4, which is why they made it more drift heavy. The best Rigde racer game (by far and up to this very day) is still Rage Racer, closely followed by Ridge Racer Type 4 and Ridge Racer 6 / 7.
karaokefreak1 agree to disagree i guess. i felt the mountain makeover to the revolution track was a vast improvement over the original and made the tracks altogether look a lot more diverse. and, while i personally feel that the RR64 controls were the best in the series up to that point, i don't understand complaining about it if you didn't like them since the game let you change the controls to be identical to the original RR or revolution. i love the whole series; my favorite on the original playstation is probably type 4, but imho RR64 improved on everything typed 4 started. i've also been playing 7 a lot lately on my ps3 again as well - it's pretty looking and i enjoyed playing through it but it's also just way too easy and forgiving gameplay wise. RR64 had that perfect balance of intense challenge with flawless controls, and for me it had the best graphics of that generation. everyone's going to have a different personal experience, though. (:
Sounds like you never had the chance to play Ridge Racer 6 / 7 (both are almost the same) in hard online sessions. The single player mode is always easy when it comes to ridge racer, but 6 & 7 had awesome multiplayer battles back in the days. Concerning RR64: You could choose an "original Controls" option, but it still did not match the original controls. As I said before, RR64 was too drift heavy for the old tracks, which made it way easier than rage racer.. And on top of that, RR64 used fewer polygons in the mountain makeover, which made some parts appear less detailed (see the first bridge on the first track and the wall section on the second route of the revolution course). Also, the third "renegade" course wasn't very pretty or exciting altogether. I enjoyed RR64 nonetheless. I mean, it's (almost) the only good car racing game on the system. But I spent more time with rage racer than with all other sequels except 6 / 7, and that really sais somenthing if there are only 4 courses available,
karaokefreak1 again, agree to disagree. i personally don't see less polygons, but what i do notice - on all of the tracks in RR64 which is a first in the series including type 4 - is that there is zero graphical pop-in anywhere in the game, and it runs at a higher resolution than any of the ps1 games with a more solid framerate as well. and i personally think its track selection is the best of the series but that's just me. i loved type 4 and rage racer but i didn't enjoy the tracks in either as much as the original 2 and loved renegade. it's all just opinion though of course, and i definitely hear yours. we all see and experience things differently for our tastes. also i don't really care for online play - local multiplayer (something all the ps1 games sucked at in comparison to 64) and a solid single player game is what i play games for. online multiplayer is just an icing on the cake sort of a thing for me and i only do it once in a while. i love RR7 don't get me wrong and enjoyed playing through it, and i love unlocking the original track at the end - it just doesn't feel as tight as RR64 overall in terms of difficulty balance. also i felt that the racing lineup on the n64 was the best of that generation - though it did have its fair share of shitty racing titles as well, to be sure, since it had so many.
Not like there were any other home consoles at the time that could do better... This was the era where *most* console ports of arcade games weren't as good as the arcades! When this game out as a PS1 launch title in late '94, the SNES was still dominant in the market... you gotta admit this was impressive for the time.
Arcade but The PS1 is so close to comparison that its not one bit funny! I still kept these game's because there difficult to find now! Plus the music kicks xxx in your face! Techno Beats Love it!
The video only shows how much closer the home version of Ridge Racer was to the arcade version than in the case of Daytona on Saturn. The perception of PlayStation's superior performance was reinforced by this game, you actually got something that looked A LOT like the arcade version, whereas with Daytona on the Saturn it looked nothing like as good as the arcade original. It helped that PlayStation hardware was a lot closer to the Namco arcade board than Saturn was to Model 2 for 3D rendering. Ridge Racer sold Sony's console big time. Later on the Hi Spec version of Ridge Racer included in RRT4 also highlighted how far you could push Sony's machine with time and experience. It was super impressive home console hardware for the era.
Its funny how back in the day we thought the playstation was arcade perfect when actually it really isnt... still ~ it was closer to arcade than Daytona usa was....
Order Of Magnitude - The Paranormal & Personal Because; A) Daytona USA on Saturn was rushed. 2) Model II (SEGA) is way more powerful than System 22 (Namco). PS1 or N64 aren't pulling off much better efforts than Saturn apart from draw distance and transparencies.
I say the PS1 version is a little bit more detailed. But the graphics are smoother on the arcade version. The arcade textures look a little flat. Overall though I think the arcade wins it for me, the performance seems smoother and faster despite being less detailed.
Nope, Arcade is actually more detailed. Way more polygons (compare the round corners of the arcade and the edgy corners of the PS, for example) and also the textures are of a much higher resolution.
Arcade all day, PlayStation version just doesn't have any AA.. All those jagged edges haha.. Also those clouds and blue sky on the arcade rival uncharted 4
Ridge Racer a versão do PlayStatio representa bem o arcade e como comparar Sega rally do arcade com Saturn a versão do Saturn representa muito bem o arcade.
The arcade version of anything is going to be better than the home console version of anything. Mainly because the arcade version is essentially the equivalent of PC vs console today. Everyone knows that, despite their best efforts, PS4 Pro and Xbox One X or whatever will never keep up with the constant upgrade capabilities of a modern PC rig. PC > console....in the 80s, 90s, 00s, and today.
primeira vez joguei ridge racer foi 1993, babei.me todo digo foi jogo carros 3d inovador trazer poderosos texturas mapeadas, uso filtros efeitos , alto poligonos carros que humilhava virtua racing, sega vingativo lançou daytona usa, mais modos visao carros, ai ridge racer so pegou playstations
+aderito santos Daytona Usa foi lançado em agosto de 1993 no Japão, já o Ridge Racer foi lançado em outubro de 1993, portanto, Daytona Usa foi lançado primeiro, então a vingativa aí na história seria a Namco, por sinal, a Namco adorava criar séries parecida com as da Sega, foi assim com Tekken (lançado depois de Virtua Fighter), foi assim com Time Crisis (lançado depois de Virtua Cop) e foi assim tb com Ace Combat (lançado depois de After Bunner).
Copiavam? Sim. Virtua Racing virou Ace Driver, Daytona virou Ridge Racer (os dois foram desenvolvidos em paralelo, na verdade - vide entrevistas com o diretor de RR), Virtua Fighter virou Tekken, Sega Rally virou Dirt Dash. Mas tambem teve copias ao contrario, que nem Aqua Jet virando Sega Water Ski, Cyber Cycles virando Manx TT, e Soul Edge virando Last Bronx. Fato e; essa rivalidade toda so resultou numa uma leva de jogos fantasticos entre as duas!
5 anos passou meu comentário, SEGA nem sempre foi primeiro, Namco muitas das vezes pioneiro inovação, Sega copiava.. Rivalidade clássica nas arcadas Namco e Sega luta quem trazia melhor gráficos jogos 3d ,na altura polígonos ainda gatinhava consola domésticas , eu fui neutro , não sou fanboy nem puxa saquismo nem de Namco ,Sega
It was rare to have an "arcade perfect" anything back in the 90s, unless you owned a Neo Geo or X68000 or whatever. Comments such as "arcade wins" are stating the bleeding obvious. Of course the arcade was better. That was never the point for us who bought the PSX at launch. We were comparing it to the SNES and Megadrives we were upgrading from. It was an amazing upgrade.
So true. 👍
The point was getting the games running in flawless 3D.
@@shonuff8880 shaolin soccer
I abosolutely love this game!!!!
Arcade perfect on 3D in the mid nineties was impossible to deliver on PS1 and Saturn, but I remember Mortal Kombat trilogy as astonishing and really perfect on my PS1, despite the loading times and the PS1 not so good on 2D as the Saturn
Later Namco released Ridge Racer 60 fps version that was bundled with Ridge Racer Type 4. Would be interesting to compare.
parazels83 The 60fps Ridge Racer is pretty fantastic. Love that they also put production notes into it describing everything that was done to achieve it
parazels83 ~ they do cheat a bit as there is only 1 other car on track.
Order Of Magnitude - The Paranormal & Personal Well, while Namco was fighting for 60FPS, they were still held by the PlayStation’s limitations... Makes sense.
@@stutheironman VERY interesting. I had forgotten about that. I'm going to searc -- okay I just checked and I do have it. Copying it over and going to play it in the morning! ridge racer bonus turbo mode disc (usa).chd
When you compare those two, the arcade-version has many more CPU-cars, higher resolution, progressive scan, more detailed polygon models, higher draw distance, higher resolution textures and (at least IMO) a much better color-scheme.
So it's still no contest, but it shows that they improved on the PS somewhat, but it's more a like a tech demo with only 2 CPU cars.
Great port. The PSX blew me away. Those were magical times.
They really were, weren't they? Unless you were there back then, you really can't understand just how special they were.
I truly miss the feel of the gaming industry from this time. It was, as you said, truly magical.
The frame rate and resolution was lower with the PS1 port, but nevertheless, the home port of Ridge Racer was an astonishing, ground breaking conversion for the time, and the first killer app for the machine. No home console could throw around 3D graphics as effectively prior to the PS1.
Arcade wins. But the PS1 version was a very impressive port, especially when compared to Daytona on the Sega Saturn.
+The Sauber C9 Guy Animations Well, Ridge Racer was the first racing game in 3D, and the PSX was the first game console to use 3D graphics, which was why the Namco development thought "Hey, why not port this game to consoles?" Also, there was a High-Spec re-release of this game, called Ridge Racer Turbo. It ran at 60fps, just like the arcade game. The difference is that races in Turbo are always one-on-one, and Free Run was added, allowing you to freestyle the course by yourself. The Kamata Angelus from Revolution was also another boss added that will challenge you to a race, taking the Soldat Crinale's place.
did you play Need for Speed in 3DO?
Marcus Davis You're very wrong about Ridge Racer being the first 3D racing game. And the Playstation was NOT the first 3D (polygonal) home console. You need to learn your video game history!!!
RR1 was was more simplistic as a coin op compared to Daytona - PS1 would have really struggled to create Daytona.
Sega Model 2 was easily 5 years ahead of anything at consumer level hardware.
I think it wasn't too bad on Saturn.
This was the start of the end for the arcade games when ps1 could come really close to the arcade and then it just took over
I loved how on the ps version, after the game was loaded, you could take the game out and pop in any cd to add your music to the game.
I love that feature as well because not only can you listen to your own custom music but you can share the game with a friend by loading it on his system..
Its because the game loaded the entire data to the ps1 instead of loading certain parts of the data in specific moments
Back when these games were new, we'd play them in the arcade then get the PSX version at home and didn't really know there was any difference, bar having a seat, pedals and wheel. It's good to see this side by side, that there were in fact compromises for the PS version. And still, this appears to be one of the most impressive 3D arcade ports ever.
Every time somebody plays this on TH-cam they don't seem to realise how to drift
i used to play Ridge Racer Revolution back in the day on PS1 and i finished the whole game without even knowing you could drift, i only found out in the last few months that drifting was possible lol
Maybe no one cares.... this was always the poor cousin of Daytona USA when in arcades imo.
Drifting is shit and unnecessary in this one.
@DaNes200581 but i'm finishing the first 2 tracks without hitting the walls and obstacle , i'm not using drift , the only car i'm using was red green one , you can finish 1st lap at 49 seconds without hitting anything.
I know right
All I'm seeing in the comments is 'Arcade has better graphics' this and 'Arcade runs at 60fps' that. Yeah, no shit that the arcade version is smoother and more visually impressive. You all seem to be forgetting some important things:
1. Arcade cabinets are designed to play one, I repeat ONE particular game, whereas consoles are designed to play multiple different games.
2. The Playstaion port of Ridge Racer is a launch title, in face it's the VERY first PS game. At this stage Namco was literally starting to learn how to program games for it so of course they couldn't bring this port anywhere near it's arcade counterpart.
3. Isn't the whole point of the video to see how well the PS version holds up to the arcade version rather than to see which is visually superior?
Does anyone else feel the same way or am I alone on this one?
It’s actually really annoying, but think of the type of people who’re posting that negative trash here.
Then they try to slip “PC vs Console” into the argument... smh
1) Thats not true. There were/are many arcade systems playing many different games. Some of them over the course of several years. On (Super) System 22, there were like a dozen games released.
2) If you put out a learning factor in favour of the PS-Port, you have to do so for the arcade-verson as well. You're forgetting they had to learn to make games for System 22 too.
Of course, there was the Ridge Racer Prototye "Sim Drive", so they had a small amount of experience when making RR for the arcade (which happened under a lot release date-pressure btw); but it was the same team converting the arcarde-version to the PlayStation, so they had some experience in this game now. So it wasnt completely new for em either.
3) That depends.
Back then, a LOT of magazines used to glorify the PS1-Version as "arcade-perfect" (same magazines that used to bash the Dreamcast-version of VF3 as not arcade-perfect while it actually was to 99%!).
But it's simply no contest, honestly.
The Arcarde-Version of Ridge Racer pushed 8 times (!) the pixel count of the PS-Version (4x resolution at 2x framerate) while pushing far more polygons (round corners instead of blocky, more detailed cars, more details/buildings etc. round the track), had better draw distance, more direct steering with less input-lag, higher color depth, perspective correct texture mapping, less graphical glitches, a higher texture resolution and texture filtering.
I still remember playing it in the arcade as a kid loving it to death, and how disappointed i was when i played the home version the first time.
Course, Namco still did a good job with the port (and it also had to be done quickly), no argument there. Only for an "arcade perfect port" it just was not the same experience as in the arcade. Not at all.
Every arcade looked better in those days but Ridge Racer was the closest anyone had seen to the Arcade experience at home for a driving game in 1994.
Now that I can play both side by side on the same size screen, it's amazing how little differences there were between the PS1 version and the multi-thousand dollar coin-op.
@MrJoshuaSalway1990 Ok....but then why did every RR sequel on PS1 look and play worse? ....
@M H So true - Sega always got bad press - PS was pushed along by the Media Hype bitd - also PS2 to even more extent...
I think that arcade games from that era still look amazing. Just sayin'.
The announcer in this game sounds exactly like the guy in Loveshack by the B52's.
Sure, arcade version is the best, but Namco also developed a Turbo mode for the PS1 version in 99, a demo disc with few Namco demos and an optimized Ridge Racer that could run very close as the arcade version. The main difference in there is the static 60fps framerate in the turbo mode.
Man, those System 22 graphics look sharp and bright! Still the PSX port looks very impressive. At the time this was top notch. I had such great times with ridge racer
Funny, I always thought Ridge Racer looked meh on the console at the time.
Arcade version. No contest. Ridge Racer was ahead of its time in 1993.
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And also don't forget Daytona USA which it was also way ahead of its time since 1993.
Daytona Usa arcade was by far superior to RR arcade.
Yeah dat multiplayer in Daytona was damn incredible. Arcades like like 8 Daytona machines connected together for massive multiplayer. SOOOOO ahead of its time without a doubt
@@fancy-payne but don't forget that ridge racer was the first game of PS1.
@@SuperShinobi76 No way, always loved the look and feel of Ridge racer more, hands down! Daytona was just boring stock cars....Ridge Racer was pure driving action! The only reason I feel Daytona was more popular in the US because of the "USA" in the title and the fact the cars crashed. People love that stuff. One of the things Ridge Racer should have had were cars flipping over, but hey, RR wasn't about that....it was about driving your car.
segundo jogo que eu vi rodando em um playstation quando eu o vi pela primeira vez em uma locadora em um distante 1996...
o primeiro foi tekken 1 ,o curioso é que pelas fotos das revistas eu pensava que o console era muito maior e os cds eram aqueles gigantes conhecidos como LDs
até hoje me lembro que o dono fez uma cambiarra de deixar o console rodando o jogo com a tampa aberta e eu vi o cdzinho rodando fiquei assombrado nuca tinha visto um console cd antes e o cara ainda fez aquilo !!
e ainda ele fez rodar este jogo com um cd de musica dance ,lembro até a musica era "Run Away" do Real mccoy.era emoção demais pra um moleque de 13 anos,só um êxtase semelhante quanto o puto meses depois trouxe Resident evil eeu o vi rodando no mesmo console ,aí eu pirei de vez...
Why tf didn't the PS1 get the dude running across the track at 0:28??? My entire belief that the PS1 version was arcade perfect is destroyed!
RAM limitations. Not worth the compromise for one guy running across. Besides, PSX RR is based more around RR2 (Arcade).
Would have been more interesting if you compared it too the Ridge Racer 60 fps that was included with Ridge Racer 4
Yes sure - because it only had one other car on screen - Sega Rally on Saturn destroyed PS1 Ridge Racers
O meu primeiro contato com o PlayStation Fat na vida foi com esse jogo na Progames da Vila Maria lembro me como se fosse hoje, bela comparação
Arcade looks cleaner. But the PlayStation version is otherwise a very faithful port. At that point in time in 1995 it was pretty much unheard of to be able to play games like this on a home console. But PlayStation made it a reality, certainly more so than the Saturn did. That first year the PlayStation just blew the Saturn away
Makes you miss the arcades... :,(
Arcade version: 60fps
PSOne version: 30fps
Obvious winner right here.
+Allie-RX
Well, there was a 60FPS Ridge Racer tech demo disc included with Ridge Racer R4 called Ridge Racer Turbo, but the downside is that there's only 1 A.I. car on the course and only two soundtracks.
Arcade version of Ridge Racer : $11,995.00
Launch PSX : $299 + Ridge Racer $40-50
I did not feel in any way a loser getting to own and play Ridge Racer at home in the mid '90s!
Mike Hunt Well yeah if you wanted to buy the whole arcade cabinet for yourself. Most of us just went a local arcade or pizzeria and inserted just 2 quarters to play the game.
Plus there's a thing called MAME.
Allie-RX Agree, and I could clearly see the arcade was superior. But like I say the feeling of having it at home was just amazing, even if I knew full well it was inferior even back then :)
Mike Hunt It was a great port! Miles better than those horrible Saturn ports of the time.
If the PSX version were s little brighter in colour , and sky a little more acurate with arcade IT would have been a blast
It's actually quite impressive how close to the arcade version the PS1 port is. Literally the only noticeable differences are that the PS1 port has slightly less advance lighting, slightly downscaled textures and runs at exactly half the resolution and framerate. In every other way, both versions play and sound pretty much *exactly* the same!
If only Sega could have pulled that off in the original Saturn port of Daytona USA...
BlueDragon992 That simply wasn't possible regarding Daytona. A $15,000 dollar state of the art arcade machine vs a $399 home console. The reason the RR port to PS1 is so close is because there isn't much difference in graphical capability between the System 22 & PS1 (not including framerate or resolution).
Now compare the model II to Saturn and the difference is HUGE. Daytona USA CCE on Saturn is graphically and framerate wise what the original Saturn release of Daytona should have been. Apart from the still rather ridiculous draw distance it looked much closer to RR on PS1.
The Arcarde-Version of Ridge Racer pushed 8 times (!) the pixel count of the PS-Version (4x resolution at 2x framerate) while pushing far more polygons (round corners instead of blocky, more detailed cars, more details/buildings etc. round the track), had better draw distance, higher color depth, perspective correct texture mapping, less graphical glitches and a higher texture resolution/more texture variety.
Double framerate also means less input lag and more direct steearing for gameplay.
Half the resolution and framerate - that sounds like a PS3 port of a X360 game ;-) lol
@@TheKayliedGamerChannel-TH-cam Final Fantasy XIII would like a word with you.
@@yukatoshi Namco System 22 is completely different than the PS1. The 22 was the first arcade system to have textured polygons before the Model 2. Similar to how Sega partner with Lockheed Martin to create the Model 2, Namco partnered with Evans & Sutherland, which mainly created military flight simulators at the time. While not as advanced as the Model 2, the 22 was superior to the PS1 in every way. The Daytona port could have been done better but the Saturn was a pain in the ass to develop for. Sega was never able to get the draw distance far enough in their Saturn racing games. While Namco the only pop-in we're back ground objects, while the tracks themselves never pop-in.
Also the full scale cabinet of Ridge Raced with 3 large TVs and a car was $250,000.
Namco did a good job converting RR from the expensive, powerful System 22 to a consumer console that cost $300. There is pop-up and a 30 FPS frame rate, but the port plays well and looks good in motion. Being able to select other cars is a nice extra.
It's pretty insane how the hi spec Ridge Racer demo bundled with Ridge Racer Type 4 at the end of 1998 looks comparable to the arcade version. It only runs with one opponent but all the same, it's an amazing version and shows how far Namco's understanding of the Playstation hardware came in just four years. System 22 still wins since it was a highly expensive cutting edge arcade board but after a few years and tricks the PS1 hardware was pushed to the limit, the final games looked amazing compared to the launch titles.
"It only runs with one opponent but all the same" - not true.
Compared to hi-spec, the arcade-version not only has many more CPU-cars, but also a higher resolution, progressive scan, more detailed polygon models, higher draw distance, higher resolution textures and (at least IMO) a much better color-scheme.
@@MH-yp6wg Read better.
@@pgr3290 Explain.
@@MH-yp6wg When I said it only runs with one opponent I was clearly talking about the hi spec version, not the arcade version.
@@pgr3290 I know... why should anyone think otherwise? ;)
I was merely referring to that "all the same"-statement after it.
They are not the same even if you disregard the CPU-cars.
psx version is so much more pixelated than the arcade version, it's crazy.
At the time sony boasted of having made a good port, but by comparing we realize the enormous difference in terms of aliasing.
Double the resolution, double the framerate, perspective correct textures, no noticeable popup. The arcade is superior of course. And it achieved all this with Motorola 68020 and special video hardware.
I also want to see the remake Ridge 1 vs Ridge 1 Arcade.
I remember when R4 had a “high res” Ridge Racer demo where it looked perfect.
Arcade looks so smooth.... PS1 version while ok was not as good as the arcade, which was to be expected.
The 60fps re-release "bonus game" lacked the numerous in race competitors - with 1 on 1 max only races.
Nice building pop-in at 1:12 ;-)
lol at the pop up
I enjoy both version's for what they are and play both here. Arcade is what you'd expect while home port offers and expands the genre abit more. Play both here!
My fist game on playstation 1 !! in 1995 !! for my 14 th anniversary !!
Esse Arcade roda num hardware de pouca coisa melhor do que um Playstation stock. Aliás isso vale para todos os jogos da Namco para Playstation. E também jogos de várias outras empresas que aproveitavam o hardware barato e potente do console para a época para montar suas placas de arcade. E isso facilitava e muito o trabalho em uma conversão.
sim, é verdade. mas uma placa de Arcade da Namco custava um trocado, essas placas da Sega eram uma fortuna.
E qualquer empresa que se preze tem que pensar no retorno financeiro que terá. A Sega nunca foi muito boa nisso, não à toa está reduzida ao que está hoje.
como não tem nada a ver? o modelo de negócios da Namco era mais lucrativo. Não interessa se a Sega convertia bem jogos e o escambau.
Não estou falando de jogos.
tudo pra vc "não tem nada a ver". é engraçado discutir com gente assim.
a Sega lucra tanto que tem 10 anos que não sai um Virtua Fighter novo...
aguarde ele e Shen mue 3.
e um console novo da Sega tambem kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Não é verdade. Ridge racer roda no system 22, e era bem superior ao ps1. a placa a qual vc se refere é o system 11, que é um ps1 com o dobro de ram de video. Após o lançamento de tekken no system 11, a maioria dos jogos da namco foram lançados pra o system 11, e a partir de certo ponto, para o system 12, como tekken3. O system 12 ainda era baseado no ps1, mas com mais memoria e processadores 50% mais rapidos.
There was a 60 FPS demo version of Ridge Racer 1 released alongside Ridge Racer Type 4 on the Playstation.
You know what? I should have looked at the previous comments before assuming i'd be the first to mention that...
andyukmonkey It wasn’t a demo though. Although the disc DID include the original Ridge Racer on it, so you could tell the difference between it and Turbo Mode...
Zekester 2016 Lol. Thing is going at 60FPS was why they could only put 1 more car on screen IIRC.
Arcade is like twice as fast with what look like a 60fps steady and the anti-aliasing makes it the obvious winner..
There is a 60fps version of Ridge Racer on a 2nd disc of RR4 for those interested.
Cat M It doesn't have AA.
PSX lacked perspective correction and had to fix it tesselating the initial triangles, thus the wobbly textures. But added really no aditional detail, a pity
you shouldn't put any graphic buffer for arcade. i think you turned on texture filtering and upscale for arcade one.
WINNER: ARCADE. The arcade version runs at a much smoother framerate, has higher resolution, and higher texture quality. The PS1 version is still a pretty good conversion, though. People in the 32-bit era often compared "the good Ridge Racer port to the PS1" to "the bad Daytona USA port to the Saturn." But, it is important to remember Daytona USA running on the Model 2 Arcade Hardware was far superior to the Ridge Racer arcade game, so it was a much more difficult port. Also, Daytona USA Remix on the Saturn was a very good port, so Saturn did win in the end - it's just it was too late from a sales perspective.
Yeah, but it still doesn't take away from the fact Ridge Racer was FAR FAR superior to Daytona USA at home visually and gameplay wise. I still remember the perfect 5/5's from gamepro for RR stating how it blows Daytona out of the water....Daytona receiving like 4's, 4.5's. Daytona played like under 30fps dipping to like 20's even while Ridge Racer ran at a very steady 30fps at all times.
And at arcades, daytona was not FAR better. They were both technically impressive. I will always prefer the look and art style of Ridge Racer. It was just a much more fun game to me.
@@CJTranceAddiction You are correct that Ridge Racer on the PS1 looked better than Daytona on the Saturn. However, that had more to do with Daytona looking like garbage than it did with Ridge Racer actually looking special. The remix of of Daytona on the Saturn actually looked better than the Ridge Racer games on the PS1, but by then the sales war was over. Sega really dropped the ball with the Saturn.
sega lord x says that the remix sucks , both the usa and Japan versions
@@DJDanceClassic The person named "sega lord x" is out of his/her mind. The entire reason why the Saturn game called "Daytona USA" was re-released as "Daytona USA Championship Circuit Edition" was because the graphics were an improvement of night and day.
Ridge Racer Arcade vs N64 version
Ridge Racer on the Playstation ran at 30 frames per second. Many of the dumb Playstation fans out there in the PS5 era think that is a bad thing. But its not. It means you are getting the maximum number of polygons per frame that the hardware allows. At 60 frames per second, you can only display half as much polygon detail per frame. And at 120 frames per second - which very few TV sets have the ability to do - you can only display 25% as much polygon detail per frame (which means the graphics may be "smooth," but they will lack detail).
The PS RR was a strange experience for me.
After the crushing disappointment of Saturn Daytona USA, the port of RR was arguably more competent, but far, FAR from arcade perfect and still a bummer for me.
Don't get me wrong, the core gameplay was there, it played practically like the arcade original (albeit with a controller). I just to accept that these new consoles could not replicate the high-end arcade experience.
Once I came around with more realistic expectations, I enjoyed the game. I also enjoyed Saturn Daytona USA. Come next Xmas, I warmed up immediately to Saturn Sega Rally and Ridge Racer Revolution. Some games like VF2 and Virtua Cop exceeded my expectations in terms of high-end arcade conversions.
Ridge Racer on PS1 was one of the first games I played on the system. I thought it was arcade perfect? Guess not. I have the MAME version of it to finally realize PS1 wasn't that close.
exactly, the arcade is so much better
Much better port than what the Saturn could deliver with its Daytona port. One of the main reasons why Sony got a headstart at launch in convincing people to go for the PlayStation instead of the Saturn. Oh, and the $299 mic-drop as well.
The arcade version is better, but for 1995, this is still an extremely impressive port and not far off.
Taí mais um jogo famoso que nunca joguei :P
Como eu sei que você vai perguntar qual eu gostei rsrsrs Eu vi pontos interessantes em ambos: no arcade o gráfico é mais polido e a movimentação mais suave, no Playstation me agradou a sensação de velocidade. Se o arcade for gabinete com pedal e volante fico com ele rsrs.
+LGD Retrogamer o gabinete da versão arcade é o que mostrei no inicio do video (com volante, pedal e marcha) , acho que todos os jogos de carros eram assim nos arcades, menos os de neo geo, q se não me engano, só tem 2 ou 3 jogos de corridas ao todo :P (além de 1 jogo ruim de moto)
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The guy doesnt run across the screen before the race starts on the PSX version.
Arcade version looked and played well for the time but the PlayStation version was always a huge letdown. By the time of R4 they had managed to tweak the original to get it to finally run at 60fps but with only 1 competitor it was to little to late for me.
This was an awesome effort on behalf of the PSOne, but lack of framerate wad noticeable. In fact, it gave a greater sense of speed, sometimes, IMO.
What always irritated me was not the limitation against the Arcade ..but why didnt Namco make the colours closer to the arcade..lighter asphalt, a little brighter overall ... You know like we see hacks of roms for Genesis this could get so much closer to the arcade that way.. just colour palette change ..
That frame-rate on the PS1 version. :( Yeesh. Understandable for the time. We all had a blast playing it.
D2K Prime The JP PS1 version of RR has a pretty nasty bout of slowdown coming out of the tunnel.
WTF? It was 30fps, man. Standard. Fucking impressive for the time.
amazing the difference a z-buffer makes. Still amazing that the PSX got so close
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The PS1 version was incredible.
It definitely helped to sell the PS1
Ridge Racer is still one of my favourite games on any platform.
Arcade wins on everything except lighting: cars actually get yellowish inside the Playstation tunnels.
+Maiti Dukku Arcades wins in lighting too.
Less lighting and shadows is what makes a game run at constant 60fps on machines with limited resources.
A versão do Playstation acho muito boa, apesar da jogabilidade do carro ser muito dificil e bem arisca (talvez se tivessem lançado o analogico na epoca do lançamento do jogo, melhoraria). Mas prefiro o do Arcade.
Em relaçao a comparar ao video passado, no console prefiro o Ridge Racer e no Arcade o Daytona USA.
"Woooooooooo!.... HIT THE NEW RECORD!!!!" 😁
Arcade... I remember blowing up records with this one...
would love to see a comparison of the arcade ridge racer vs ridge racer 64 - rr64 was a lot closer to the arcade in terms of visual fidelity, plus all of the tracks got a makeover in that one.
Frozen Retro ! spoken like someone who has likely barely played any games on the n64 but ok. RR64 was by far the best ridge racer game of that console generation, even though i love the playstation games as well.
Sorry, i cannot agree. the N64 Ridge Racer was okay, but the mountain makeover wasn't very pretty, specially considering the time it came out. And the controls were altered too, since it came out after rage racer and RR type 4, which is why they made it more drift heavy. The best Rigde racer game (by far and up to this very day) is still Rage Racer, closely followed by Ridge Racer Type 4 and Ridge Racer 6 / 7.
karaokefreak1 agree to disagree i guess. i felt the mountain makeover to the revolution track was a vast improvement over the original and made the tracks altogether look a lot more diverse. and, while i personally feel that the RR64 controls were the best in the series up to that point, i don't understand complaining about it if you didn't like them since the game let you change the controls to be identical to the original RR or revolution. i love the whole series; my favorite on the original playstation is probably type 4, but imho RR64 improved on everything typed 4 started. i've also been playing 7 a lot lately on my ps3 again as well - it's pretty looking and i enjoyed playing through it but it's also just way too easy and forgiving gameplay wise. RR64 had that perfect balance of intense challenge with flawless controls, and for me it had the best graphics of that generation. everyone's going to have a different personal experience, though. (:
Sounds like you never had the chance to play Ridge Racer 6 / 7 (both are almost the same) in hard online sessions. The single player mode is always easy when it comes to ridge racer, but 6 & 7 had awesome multiplayer battles back in the days. Concerning RR64: You could choose an "original Controls" option, but it still did not match the original controls. As I said before, RR64 was too drift heavy for the old tracks, which made it way easier than rage racer.. And on top of that, RR64 used fewer polygons in the mountain makeover, which made some parts appear less detailed (see the first bridge on the first track and the wall section on the second route of the revolution course). Also, the third "renegade" course wasn't very pretty or exciting altogether. I enjoyed RR64 nonetheless. I mean, it's (almost) the only good car racing game on the system. But I spent more time with rage racer than with all other sequels except 6 / 7, and that really sais somenthing if there are only 4 courses available,
karaokefreak1 again, agree to disagree. i personally don't see less polygons, but what i do notice - on all of the tracks in RR64 which is a first in the series including type 4 - is that there is zero graphical pop-in anywhere in the game, and it runs at a higher resolution than any of the ps1 games with a more solid framerate as well. and i personally think its track selection is the best of the series but that's just me. i loved type 4 and rage racer but i didn't enjoy the tracks in either as much as the original 2 and loved renegade. it's all just opinion though of course, and i definitely hear yours. we all see and experience things differently for our tastes. also i don't really care for online play - local multiplayer (something all the ps1 games sucked at in comparison to 64) and a solid single player game is what i play games for. online multiplayer is just an icing on the cake sort of a thing for me and i only do it once in a while. i love RR7 don't get me wrong and enjoyed playing through it, and i love unlocking the original track at the end - it just doesn't feel as tight as RR64 overall in terms of difficulty balance. also i felt that the racing lineup on the n64 was the best of that generation - though it did have its fair share of shitty racing titles as well, to be sure, since it had so many.
Not to shabby for the PSone hardware. Still think the Tekken 3 port from Arcade was done best.
Namco ought to release a collection with arcade perfect ports
It's funny how bad the PS1's graphics are compared to the Namco System 22. Is it even a port at this point?
Not like there were any other home consoles at the time that could do better... This was the era where *most* console ports of arcade games weren't as good as the arcades!
When this game out as a PS1 launch title in late '94, the SNES was still dominant in the market... you gotta admit this was impressive for the time.
Arcade but The PS1 is so close to comparison that its not one bit funny! I still kept these game's because there difficult to find now! Plus the music kicks xxx in your face! Techno Beats Love it!
Only thing bad about the psONE version was lack of AA and smooth texture maps...other than that great!
I used to think it was arcade perfect nearly 30 years ago.
The video only shows how much closer the home version of Ridge Racer was to the arcade version than in the case of Daytona on Saturn. The perception of PlayStation's superior performance was reinforced by this game, you actually got something that looked A LOT like the arcade version, whereas with Daytona on the Saturn it looked nothing like as good as the arcade original. It helped that PlayStation hardware was a lot closer to the Namco arcade board than Saturn was to Model 2 for 3D rendering. Ridge Racer sold Sony's console big time. Later on the Hi Spec version of Ridge Racer included in RRT4 also highlighted how far you could push Sony's machine with time and experience. It was super impressive home console hardware for the era.
Its funny how back in the day we thought the playstation was arcade perfect when actually it really isnt... still ~ it was closer to arcade than Daytona usa was....
Order Of Magnitude - The Paranormal & Personal Because;
A) Daytona USA on Saturn was rushed.
2) Model II (SEGA) is way more powerful than System 22 (Namco). PS1 or N64 aren't pulling off much better efforts than Saturn apart from draw distance and transparencies.
the arcade one is much smoother with less jaggies and more stuff.
Arcade 60 fps with better graphics and resolution.
Ps1 30 fps with lower resolution,pop up background and low textures res.
Everyone who says "your eyes can't see higher than 30fps" needs to watch this video.
entrancendental anyone who says that should be declared legally blind.
Its 60fps - and any higher than that is not visible to the human eye.
:57 when your mom in the heel with the shopping cart.
The ps1 version actually looks decent when compared, especially for the limited hardware
Now a days we can easily emulate the ps1 quality to turn it into the arcade version.
Arcade was a lot smoother but PS1 had more detail in the textures etc
pixels are not details mate
@DJDanceClassic the amount of pixels determine the amount of detail
The arcade version looks better but the PlayStation version gives you a better sense of speed and I think it handles better as well...
Arcade version obviously wins, but I prefer the darker, grainier look of the PS1 port. Probably due to familiarity.
Comprei um ps1 na época por causa desse jogo e toshiden!!! Blza de port!!!
I say the PS1 version is a little bit more detailed. But the graphics are smoother on the arcade version. The arcade textures look a little flat.
Overall though I think the arcade wins it for me, the performance seems smoother and faster despite being less detailed.
Nope, Arcade is actually more detailed. Way more polygons (compare the round corners of the arcade and the edgy corners of the PS, for example) and also the textures are of a much higher resolution.
Arcade all day, PlayStation version just doesn't have any AA.. All those jagged edges haha.. Also those clouds and blue sky on the arcade rival uncharted 4
The arcade one looks almost like a ps2 graphics 😳 well its impressive of it's time.
アーケード版初めて見た時ゲームが次の次元を迎えたと思ったプレステのロンチとして発表なった時どうせほとんど再現出来んやろ思ったプレステ買って起動してみたら完璧ではないにしろ家庭用でここまで再現出来るようになったのかと驚嘆した
recuerda que salio una version para ps1 con los mismos graficos de arcade pero solo la primera pista
I know the playstation version is inferior, but this was a sign that the popularity of the arcade scene was coming to an end.
PS1 version is like "What if we tried to make Ridge Racer run on Namco System 11?"
Here's the result.
Barebare kun It would actually look better on System 11 as it has twice the VRAM.
Ridge Racer a versão do PlayStatio representa bem o arcade e como comparar Sega rally do arcade com Saturn a versão do Saturn representa muito bem o arcade.
can you try it with the 64 version?
ridge racer console's port was clearly better than daytona usa console's port!
Drift????
Who else beat the white car?
The arcade version of anything is going to be better than the home console version of anything. Mainly because the arcade version is essentially the equivalent of PC vs console today. Everyone knows that, despite their best efforts, PS4 Pro and Xbox One X or whatever will never keep up with the constant upgrade capabilities of a modern PC rig. PC > console....in the 80s, 90s, 00s, and today.
I love this game so much :D
是非R4特典のFPS60リッジも追加して欲しいわ
コメント主と同じような事言ってる外国人もいるね。
primeira vez joguei ridge racer foi 1993, babei.me todo digo foi jogo carros 3d inovador trazer poderosos texturas mapeadas, uso filtros efeitos , alto poligonos carros que humilhava virtua racing, sega vingativo lançou daytona usa, mais modos visao carros, ai ridge racer so pegou playstations
+aderito santos Daytona Usa foi lançado em agosto de 1993 no Japão, já o Ridge Racer foi lançado em outubro de 1993, portanto, Daytona Usa foi lançado primeiro, então a vingativa aí na história seria a Namco, por sinal, a Namco adorava criar séries parecida com as da Sega, foi assim com Tekken (lançado depois de Virtua Fighter), foi assim com Time Crisis (lançado depois de Virtua Cop) e foi assim tb com Ace Combat (lançado depois de After Bunner).
Exato, Nanco surfando na onda da Sega
A Namco sempre copiou a Sega na cara dura.
Copiavam? Sim. Virtua Racing virou Ace Driver, Daytona virou Ridge Racer (os dois foram desenvolvidos em paralelo, na verdade - vide entrevistas com o diretor de RR), Virtua Fighter virou Tekken, Sega Rally virou Dirt Dash. Mas tambem teve copias ao contrario, que nem Aqua Jet virando Sega Water Ski, Cyber Cycles virando Manx TT, e Soul Edge virando Last Bronx. Fato e; essa rivalidade toda so resultou numa uma leva de jogos fantasticos entre as duas!
5 anos passou meu comentário, SEGA nem sempre foi primeiro, Namco muitas das vezes pioneiro inovação, Sega copiava.. Rivalidade clássica nas arcadas Namco e Sega luta quem trazia melhor gráficos jogos 3d ,na altura polígonos ainda gatinhava consola domésticas , eu fui neutro , não sou fanboy nem puxa saquismo nem de Namco ,Sega
playstation port looks great. but.... playstation 1 and 2 had very dark contrast always. it anoyed the hell out of me with the ps2.
arjan snijder Saturn's is worse, believe me!
it was a complete remake. interesting.
A versão arcade roda a 60fps além dos gráficos mais sólidos.
Arcade superior. Mas a conversão pro PSX foi bem honesta. Ótimo jogo de qualquer forma.
El de arcade es mucho mejor pero para una PlayStation que recién había salido no está nada mal
Man the arcade version was really stingy with the time extensions.
The one that’s doing 60fps is always best lol