I know a lot of you know this stuff already, but thought it might be helpful as a primer for the series. Please share this with others so they can get hyped on this potential new way of doing things.
Hello N-O-D-E. I'm doing my undergraduate research paper on decentralization and I would love to interview you if you'd be up to it. I've been following your channel for about a year now and thanks to you I feel like a much more informed user. I've even tried to follow some of your projects while I was in technical school. I remember you displaying a method to contact you through Bitmessage a while ago but can't seem to find it on any of your video descriptions anymore so that's why I'm contacting you through the comments. I don't present this paper until March of next year but I would hope for an interview sooner rather than later. Thank you for your time and dedication to the community you've built. I can't wait for the cyberpunk future you are helping to build.
This is a fantastic bite sized explanation that can easily be shared with people who don't care for how the tech works but more about why it's important
I think Matrix (Riot) are doing things right, compared to many other projects. And while competition is good, I think it's harder for a project to stand out and gain traction today than it was when the Internet was young. A hundred incompatible decentralised systems isn't much better than a hundred silos, to put it that way. Hopefully we end up with one widely adopted protocol for decentralised social communication.
I doubt that any sort of large scale decentralization will become popular outside specific niches under the current neoliberal system. The corporations simply have far too much power over advertising and over what goes on in our governments.
Basically *they* are forcing us to take on overhead, increasing the complexity - and hence cost - of our digital lives. Will it stop with well-designed decentralised infrastructure by-the-people-for-the-people? Or will we just end up on an accelerating treadmill in an endless arms race? The problem is upstream. Let's discuss this! How much is the overhead? Are there theoretical / physical limits? Are decentralised alternatives sustainable in practice? Is it tenable to seize this sort of power?
I'd suggest covering Mastodon. It's a fairly easy platform to learn, and it's practically a drop-in replacement for Twitter. No need to install software on your machine or anything like that. But you should also cover the Fediverse, because Mastodon follows the OStatus (and more recently ActivityPub) protocol, but it's not the only compatible platform.
Hahaha, been coding since lunch and see this video's title flash up on my phone at 1am out the corner of my eye and thought it was a group chat message - "Yah Ok mate, good luck with that, you'all know I'm the center of the fukin' universe". Hour later I see its ma dude NODE posting a 101 intro to decentralization *face palm*
Source code for these systems are open source and accessible by everybody. That is exactly why this idea is not being adopted. People need to have an incentive to make services and products on these platforms. But the idea sounds groundbreaking and revolutionary nonetheless
We need all financial information available for everyone to get access to and then for open source algorithms to be able to compile statistics based on the data. Most trading these days is algorithms using statistics to sift through data that is kept secret or is deliberately made hard to access. If data was available open source about housing, debt, land value, taxes, wages, manufacturing, GDP, stocks, bonds, futures, options and all financial assets then lost of people would have been able to see the banking crisis and been able to prepare for it. Once the data is available and easy to access people could write open source software to look for patterns and warning signs. If every company around the world was to invest 000.1 % of there IT budget into open source software they would save a fortune on IT costs, have better software and more secure an private software. We also need for political theories that are not communist, socialist or capitalist to be made easier to understand and advertised wider. Robert David Steele talks about open source intelligence (OSINT) and open source everything but I don't think everything needs to be open source if we all had open source 3D printers like the RepRap project and open source manufacturing machines we could use the machines to make tools that are used for mass manufacturing. Research, development and tooling are the main cost of manufacturing items so if tools that are used by manufacturers are made using open soure then everything will become open source anyway. For example look at the new Brompton bike factory. If all the tools and machines they have were open source then anyone could make a cheap bike. If someone could design a general manufacturing machine the same way Alan Turing build a general machine(computer) then that machine could be programmed to make almost anything.
Reaching another element would be the most difficult in decentralized network, because to be sure that you're message will reach its destination you either need to spread your message to every node the message sees, or to map the network and then decide which path will be the best.
also would seem like it would be harder to find communities and or people where groups that already know each other could close off not allowing anyone else to try to be apart and add to the topic tend to have this problem in forums also yes would take a change in mindset but also skill to use just to do simple things
To get into security, P2P and decentraltization I'm doing my own project based off the concept of RetroShare with their features. My current hardest challange is how I want to do the routing algorithm since it needs to be effectient and scaleable.
I think Retroshare would be worth covering in this series. Normally it works on a friend to friend model so your IP is exposed by default, but they just added support for tor and i2p.
3:33 sure the network continues, but data can still be lost in this scenario. On-demand redundancy is a thing in eg. IPFS which is more likely to scale up as storage systems than run-of-the-mill blockchain (where each node knows everything), so the problem is not solved just mitigated
Another advantage of decentralized systems: Distribution of load: like a CDN And also any server fucks up situations silk not boing the networks down, and other nodes take over until it's fixed
Node I strongly recommend you to take a look at Hubzilla project. It has brilliant solutions for the problems that you said. It is a type of decentralized network in that there are little semi dicentralized hubs which are social networks at all. Also I recommend you to take a look at Diaspora which is less exciting than Hubzilla. P.S. I know Diaspora is federative instead of decentralized. But Hubzilla is such a decentralized network of federative ones.
I really hope these companies are split. Google needs a huuuge split. Microsoft should be split into a software and hardware company. Apple is... If they take over with arm it might be good to split, but I'm not sure about it actually. And of course, we need more decentralised systems.
Would you spotlight solutions to an un-tethered productivity suite, it they exist? Something like what google offers: mail, calendar, drive, notes, etc. but not owned by an evil empire. So many people put all this data in one basket for ease of use. I imagine you'll talk about Bit Chute too?
Do you think social networking will be done on the blockchain in the future? Will libraries become encrypted nodes for decentralized social network data? ie: problems we face with bitcoin are that storing the blockchain would require a ton of storage, and public libraries can act as a medium to this storage, yet still being decentralized on a macro scale
Beakerbrowser is a browser based on Chromium and used the "dat" protocol for decentralised websites. Really easy to set up already! #GitHub #PaulFrazee
N-O-D-E i am a newcomer to the channel and i love your stuff and i am actually interested in what you do and i want to help in anyway but i am not skilled enough and plus technology is not the strongest suit of my country finding a raspberry pi 3 model b alone is very hard so if there is any other way i could help i would gladly do it to support this movement
you should be more fearful of centralised financial services like banks, they have the power to remove all your money but they cant legally do this so they wont for now. with decentralised money its not even possible to touch your money, and with technologies like monero it isnt even possible for the people keeping record of your money to see how much you have.
@N-O-D-E if you decide to do a talk on Dat or Beaker, the community would be happy to answer any questions you have 🙂. Feel free to jump in the #dat or #beakerbrower irc channels and we’ll answer what we can.
I mean the world wide web is pretty centralized itself. Remember the hour when cloudflare was down? Remember how so many services/sites when down with it. Even if we exclude the power that browser companies have, everything is dependent on a few organizations/companies
I guess my biggest question I have is what benefit this has to the average user. to someone like my grandma, who cant code and doesn't care that twitter is telling anyone with a buck to spare that she went to the Bahamas for 2 weeks in 2011. a decentralized web will always be slower than the surface net, and do to its nature of shilling exclusively freeware will always have worse ui design than an app made by one of the mega corps. which to most people means that the added security isn't anywhere near worth the inconvenience of using it. decentralization needs to find a benefit that anyone from a senior citizen to a homeless man to the ceo of a fortune 500 can get behind. otherwise its just going to fade into the same obscurity that irc did when myspace came out.
Kinda interesting...so am actually unknowingly planning semi-decentralised platform for artist and content creators where I set a centralised host system for keeping account data and what not but give the option to the users to host their profile pages and contents by themselves and then tell the central node aka me which ip and connection information is needed to reach their profile page. I came up with it when I saw somebody heavily complaining about compressed image hosting being annoying so I came to think and planned this system because...well I ain't rich myself. I want to build it and I gave it the call-sign 'wgas' because thats how I name my projects. What do you think? Does it make sense to offer this?
Great content. Would love to see an update on Web3 and decentralization. Numerous projects are gaining momentum as the advantages catch on in a world increasingly censored.
Decentralized mmo where players own their own character files. Hacking is okay as long as it isn't game breaking or offensive to minors. We'll call it The World. Because .hack obvs.
It would be great to see a video on the SAFE Network (by MaidSafe)! They've been making a lot of progress lately, recently holding a conference in Scotland and publishing a new site for 3rd-party developers who want to make decentralized apps on the platform. Devs can write and test their apps on the (currently centralized) alpha 2 test network or on a custom browser built with a mock (local) SAFE network environment.
I know a lot of you know this stuff already, but thought it might be helpful as a primer for the series. Please share this with others so they can get hyped on this potential new way of doing things.
N-O-D-E Great Video Sir!!!
N-O-D-E you are so mysterious
What do u do for a living
Hello N-O-D-E. I'm doing my undergraduate research paper on decentralization and I would love to interview you if you'd be up to it. I've been following your channel for about a year now and thanks to you I feel like a much more informed user. I've even tried to follow some of your projects while I was in technical school.
I remember you displaying a method to contact you through Bitmessage a while ago but can't seem to find it on any of your video descriptions anymore so that's why I'm contacting you through the comments. I don't present this paper until March of next year but I would hope for an interview sooner rather than later.
Thank you for your time and dedication to the community you've built. I can't wait for the cyberpunk future you are helping to build.
This video becomes more relevant by the day.
I found your channel yesterday and I've never heard of any of this stuff before so I really appreciated the explanation. Very interesting stuff!
This is a fantastic bite sized explanation that can easily be shared with people who don't care for how the tech works but more about why it's important
I have been thinking same things thanks for speeching them
You were talking about this 2 years ago. Look at things now! Thank you for your content.
I watched too money video to understand the mean of centerliz and decentralization but this video explained all . Thank you
I think Matrix (Riot) are doing things right, compared to many other projects.
And while competition is good, I think it's harder for a project to stand out and gain traction today than it was when the Internet was young. A hundred incompatible decentralised systems isn't much better than a hundred silos, to put it that way. Hopefully we end up with one widely adopted protocol for decentralised social communication.
Nice video, really good explanation.
New upload from N-O-D-E!!!
I doubt that any sort of large scale decentralization will become popular outside specific niches under the current neoliberal system. The corporations simply have far too much power over advertising and over what goes on in our governments.
Also centralization in a way is the how ssl certificates work and are trusted
Love every video made. Good points and well worded
You are such a great content creator! Thanks :)
Already love this series.
Good job, Node!
Thanks node I need to take a better looking at decentralized platforms thanks for the wake up
Basically *they* are forcing us to take on overhead, increasing the complexity - and hence cost - of our digital lives. Will it stop with well-designed decentralised infrastructure by-the-people-for-the-people? Or will we just end up on an accelerating treadmill in an endless arms race? The problem is upstream. Let's discuss this!
How much is the overhead? Are there theoretical / physical limits? Are decentralised alternatives sustainable in practice? Is it tenable to seize this sort of power?
my new favorite channel. keep at it bro, we need you!
I'd suggest covering Mastodon. It's a fairly easy platform to learn, and it's practically a drop-in replacement for Twitter. No need to install software on your machine or anything like that. But you should also cover the Fediverse, because Mastodon follows the OStatus (and more recently ActivityPub) protocol, but it's not the only compatible platform.
Hahaha, been coding since lunch and see this video's title flash up on my phone at 1am out the corner of my eye and thought it was a group chat message - "Yah Ok mate, good luck with that, you'all know I'm the center of the fukin' universe". Hour later I see its ma dude NODE posting a 101 intro to decentralization *face palm*
Zer0ne Narcissist
Haha for real! "Must be about me, not a numeric reference *hair toss*"
For the next video I suggest IPFS or/and ZeroNet.
I'd like that, especially mentioning the privacy concerns with IPFS. Don't know how to get around them yet.
I'd like to know how many people in this community actually use the mentioned services and if there are some popular ones.
Source code for these systems are open source and accessible by everybody. That is exactly why this idea is not being adopted. People need to have an incentive to make services and products on these platforms. But the idea sounds groundbreaking and revolutionary nonetheless
Let's do that
We need all financial information available for everyone to get access to and then for open source algorithms to be able to compile statistics based on the data. Most trading these days is algorithms using statistics to sift through data that is kept secret or is deliberately made hard to access. If data was available open source about housing, debt, land value, taxes, wages, manufacturing, GDP, stocks, bonds, futures, options and all financial assets then lost of people would have been able to see the banking crisis and been able to prepare for it.
Once the data is available and easy to access people could write open source software to look for patterns and warning signs. If every company around the world was to invest 000.1 % of there IT budget into open source software they would save a fortune on IT costs, have better software and more secure an private software.
We also need for political theories that are not communist, socialist or capitalist to be made easier to understand and advertised wider.
Robert David Steele talks about open source intelligence (OSINT) and open source everything but I don't think everything needs to be open source if we all had open source 3D printers like the RepRap project and open source manufacturing machines we could use the machines to make tools that are used for mass manufacturing.
Research, development and tooling are the main cost of manufacturing items so if tools that are used by manufacturers are made using open soure then everything will become open source anyway.
For example look at the new Brompton bike factory. If all the tools and machines they have were open source then anyone could make a cheap bike. If someone could design a general manufacturing machine the same way Alan Turing build a general machine(computer) then that machine could be programmed to make almost anything.
Reaching another element would be the most difficult in decentralized network, because to be sure that you're message will reach its destination you either need to spread your message to every node the message sees, or to map the network and then decide which path will be the best.
Decentralization isn't censorship free, it's the democratization of moderation.
Amazing vid bro
Please revisit this series with the latest movements in technology :D
also would seem like it would be harder to find communities and or people where groups that already know each other could close off not allowing anyone else to try to be apart and add to the topic tend to have this problem in forums also yes would take a change in mindset but also skill to use just to do simple things
To get into security, P2P and decentraltization I'm doing my own project based off the concept of RetroShare with their features. My current hardest challange is how I want to do the routing algorithm since it needs to be effectient and scaleable.
I think Retroshare would be worth covering in this series. Normally it works on a friend to friend model so your IP is exposed by default, but they just added support for tor and i2p.
A video on Storj or alternatives would be cool
3:33 sure the network continues, but data can still be lost in this scenario. On-demand redundancy is a thing in eg. IPFS which is more likely to scale up as storage systems than run-of-the-mill blockchain (where each node knows everything), so the problem is not solved just mitigated
Another advantage of decentralized systems:
Distribution of load: like a CDN
And also any server fucks up situations silk not boing the networks down, and other nodes take over until it's fixed
nice video
I feel like you should do a collab with the modern rogue, you guys seem like you would be good friends
Node I strongly recommend you to take a look at Hubzilla project. It has brilliant solutions for the problems that you said. It is a type of decentralized network in that there are little semi dicentralized hubs which are social networks at all. Also I recommend you to take a look at Diaspora which is less exciting than Hubzilla.
P.S. I know Diaspora is federative instead of decentralized. But Hubzilla is such a decentralized network of federative ones.
Reticulum network stack by Mark Qvist is a really cool decentralized network protocol that doesn't have much visibility yet. Highly recommended.
I really hope these companies are split.
Google needs a huuuge split.
Microsoft should be split into a software and hardware company.
Apple is... If they take over with arm it might be good to split, but I'm not sure about it actually.
And of course, we need more decentralised systems.
utopia ecosystem is a decentralized platform that also has its own mining system
Really cool
I really wish you would continue this series
Thank you ;)
Hey there. You should check out scuttlebutt a decentralised journaling social media thing that works even without the internet.
Would you spotlight solutions to an un-tethered productivity suite, it they exist? Something like what google offers: mail, calendar, drive, notes, etc. but not owned by an evil empire. So many people put all this data in one basket for ease of use. I imagine you'll talk about Bit Chute too?
Do you think social networking will be done on the blockchain in the future? Will libraries become encrypted nodes for decentralized social network data? ie: problems we face with bitcoin are that storing the blockchain would require a ton of storage, and public libraries can act as a medium to this storage, yet still being decentralized on a macro scale
Super helpful! I love this video. You should check out ZeroNet, a decentralized web.
Decentralization is here to stay
Great! can't wait for more of this. Check out Holochain and the Meta Currency project if you haven't already.
Beakerbrowser is a browser based on Chromium and used the "dat" protocol for decentralised websites. Really easy to set up already! #GitHub #PaulFrazee
love Beaker.
N-O-D-E i am a newcomer to the channel and i love your stuff and i am actually interested in what you do and i want to help in anyway but i am not skilled enough and plus technology is not the strongest suit of my country finding a raspberry pi 3 model b alone is very hard so if there is any other way i could help i would gladly do it to support this movement
Hey Node, have you used tor chat on linux? I've seen it but haven't used it and wanted to know if you have and what your thoughts are?
When nobody is monitoring, authorizing, regulating - how do we feel secure and safe? The thought of decentralized financial services fears me.
Everybody is monitoring, authorizing and regulating
@@honzikjdx7268 Precisely
you should be more fearful of centralised financial services like banks, they have the power to remove all your money but they cant legally do this so they wont for now. with decentralised money its not even possible to touch your money, and with technologies like monero it isnt even possible for the people keeping record of your money to see how much you have.
and linux is the most secure os BECAUSE its open, anyone can contribute to making it more secure
Mastodon really needs more coverage, please consider it.
thx
@N-O-D-E if you decide to do a talk on Dat or Beaker, the community would be happy to answer any questions you have 🙂. Feel free to jump in the #dat or #beakerbrower irc channels and we’ll answer what we can.
Thanks mate, I'll keep that in mind
You should really check on Credits blockchain platform. I think they were able to solve all these issues, public swap is in approx. 2 months
*Decent 'll rise*
I mean the world wide web is pretty centralized itself. Remember the hour when cloudflare was down? Remember how so many services/sites when down with it. Even if we exclude the power that browser companies have, everything is dependent on a few organizations/companies
Also matrix is supposed to be decentralised right? !
I guess my biggest question I have is what benefit this has to the average user. to someone like my grandma, who cant code and doesn't care that twitter is telling anyone with a buck to spare that she went to the Bahamas for 2 weeks in 2011. a decentralized web will always be slower than the surface net, and do to its nature of shilling exclusively freeware will always have worse ui design than an app made by one of the mega corps. which to most people means that the added security isn't anywhere near worth the inconvenience of using it. decentralization needs to find a benefit that anyone from a senior citizen to a homeless man to the ceo of a fortune 500 can get behind. otherwise its just going to fade into the same obscurity that irc did when myspace came out.
look at gnome or kde. there are many foss projects with great ui, as more people who are about ui come it it will only get better.
Functionally this sounds like cybersocialism and I am very in favour of that concept existing even in a niche capacity
Kinda interesting...so am actually unknowingly planning semi-decentralised platform for artist and content creators where I set a centralised host system for keeping account data and what not but give the option to the users to host their profile pages and contents by themselves and then tell the central node aka me which ip and connection information is needed to reach their profile page. I came up with it when I saw somebody heavily complaining about compressed image hosting being annoying so I came to think and planned this system because...well I ain't rich myself. I want to build it and I gave it the call-sign 'wgas' because thats how I name my projects. What do you think? Does it make sense to offer this?
Great content. Would love to see an update on Web3 and decentralization. Numerous projects are gaining momentum as the advantages catch on in a world increasingly censored.
check out urbit. it has a lot of this already in a working beta such as a distributed chat
Do you have a Decentralize git server? Or similar?
IPFS and Git torrent
U need to update this brilliant video. Go check hyppr
is there any decentralized forum/board to talk about this?
adekto steemit
CoD4 thx I'll check that out
It's the software version of anarchy. I like this lol
You going to bring one up for patreon? 🐸
Do you know about Dat Project and Beaker Browser?
Yeah, it will be covered
Great! I'm working on Dat projects, let me know if I can help you. ;)
You ain't dat bot, r u ? ;D ( dat = that )
github.com/datproject/dat/graphs/contributors
ingusmant Dat is the protocol behind Beaker
Is there a way I can give you money from paypal or somthing?
do urbit
What is the song used in the video?
2:46 HTTPS...??
Decentralized mmo where players own their own character files. Hacking is okay as long as it isn't game breaking or offensive to minors. We'll call it The World. Because .hack obvs.
i'm building a p2p plataform, i will send the link for you test in your mini server after release a MVP . sorry my english.
GDPR might be a big stop for Decentralisation
It would be great to see a video on the SAFE Network (by MaidSafe)! They've been making a lot of progress lately, recently holding a conference in Scotland and publishing a new site for 3rd-party developers who want to make decentralized apps on the platform. Devs can write and test their apps on the (currently centralized) alpha 2 test network or on a custom browser built with a mock (local) SAFE network environment.